This week we talk to author and pastor Andy Stanley about leadership and business principles as they apply to running a church. Andy knows a lot about churches considering he pastors the second largest one in the U.S. and has just written a new book about creating them. We also introduce you to one of our favorite new indie-folk bands, Wayfarer. The guys play “repurposed hymns and spiritual songs” and perform a live Christmas song for us. Plus, we give Cameron advice for getting hired by the Magic, introduce you to the world of mantyhose, and recap your top signs that the world is about to end.

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fun., “Sleigh Ride”

Andrew Belle, “Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas”

Paper Route, “Christmas Day (We Are Not Alone)”

Kyle Cox & Rachel Smith, “All Year Long”

Norah Jones, “It Came Upon a Midnight Clear”

Bing Crosby, “Little Jack Frost, Get Lost”

What are you excited to give this Christmas?

A few weeks ago we asked you what you wanted to get for Christmas, but this week we want to flip the tables and hear what you’re excited to give for Christmas. And to prove that giving is more fun than receiving, we’re going to pick a few of our favorite ideas and send you a copy of Wayfarer‘s The River EP on vinyl. So get yourself in the spirit of giving and send us your best ideas!