After DOGE canceled funding for the Take Me Fishing campaign and the organization that administers it, the fishing industry was upset. Many online commenters weren't. Conservation editor Andrew McKean and executive editor Natalie Krebs explain what's going on with NGO funding, why critter group CEOs make the salaries they do, and more.

Edited by Mike Pedersen / Eighty Five Audio.

Hosted by editor-in-chief Alex Robinson.

Produced by executive editor Natalie Krebs.

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