In this episode, I am back with my friend Kai Whiting, co-author of the book Being Better: Stoicism for a World Worth Living In. 

Kai is a researcher and lecturer in sustainability and Stoicism currently living in Lisbon, Portugal.

If you’re into ancient ruins, you will love the beginning of our interview, where Kai talks about the research he conducted in Pompeii. 

And then we spend a lot of the conversation talking about what it means to be a  citizen of the world, a concept that was very important to the ancient Stoics.

Should we be traveling more or less? Should we adapt to local customs or stick to our guns? 

There aren’t any rigid rules in Stoicism. It’s more about living according to principles. 


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