A Pastor and a Philosopher Walk into a Bar

Arguing About the Enneagram


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If you're an American evangelical or used to be, there's a good chance you've heard of the Enneagram. You may have even run into it in another context or heard about it from friends who are really into personality tests. We've discussed it briefly on the show before, and we've wanted to eventually give it its own episode because Randy has found it really beneficial and Kyle is a bit of a skeptic.

Lo and behold, one of our Patreon supporters, Jeff Cook, is, like, the Enneagram guru, in addition to having a background as both a pastor and a philosopher. Go figure. Jeff reached out and proposed a conversation about what the Enneagram is, what its particular strengths are, and some of Kyle's objections to it. He's joined by TJ Wilson, his co-host of Around the Circle and two other Enneagram-focused podcasts.

It's a fun, serious, personal, and respectful conversation about a topic that a lot of Christians today care a lot about. An argument, in the best sense.*

Some resources mentioned in the conversation are:

  • Around the Circle podcast
  • Start Here podcast
  • Movie Typing podcast
  • What’s Wrong with the Enneagram (Kyle's article)


The beverages sampled in this episode are:

  • Glenmorangie Signet
  • Whiskey Acres Straight Rye
  • Founders Brewing Co. Breakfast Stout


To skip the tasting, go to 3:38.

You can find the transcript for this episode here.

*Note: in philosophy, arguments are good things.

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