This week in Think Loud Crew, Shanan and R interview Lenny Cablayan, a father, grandfather, and director of Brotherhood Crusade Youth Source Center, a center for youth development. They talk about what he does to help troubled youth, what it's like to be a grandpa, what it was like dating a woman with kids, how he reacted to Shanan's unplanned pregnancy, what he feels about being a father to a queer man, and much more!

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