This week we talk to one of America’s best-known pastors, Craig Groeschel, from the innovative Oklahoma City-based Lifechurch.tv. His church is the team behind YouVersion, one of the most widely used apps in the world. (But we don’t talk to him about that.)

Jesse also brings us his summer movie picks (you probably know what he’s excited about), and somehow we devolve into talking about animal encounters. Like usual.

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