This is the second part of our interview with Fr Aidan Kimel, whose book Destined for Joy: The Gospel of Universal Salvation was the theme of episode 57. Themes we discuss: Does the Universalist hope invite the objection "Let us sin, so that grace may abound"? Can we really say that we know rather than just hope that all shall be saved? Will God's love, truth and beauty in the end be made so manifest for everyone that every creature just cannot disown it? Does our doubts in Universalism - that it is "too good to be true?" indicate a lack of belief in the love and power of God, as George MacDonald (1824-1905) said?