37signals' co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson are back behind the mic with host Kimberly Rhodes. This week, they’re discussing balancing personal interests, health, and hobbies with business success. They discuss building a healthy company without it taking over your life.

Key Takeaways:

• 01:12 – Why business health is all about balance
• 05:48 – The hidden cost of overcomplicating your business
• 08:36 – Taking a closer look at how you're spending your time
• 15:10 – Leaders should be available
• 18:57 – The downside of over scheduling your days
• 20:44 – Basecamp’s approach to requesting people’s time
• 25:26 – Your outside interests don’t have to tie back to work

Links and Resources:

• Slack: Getting Past Burnout, Busywork, and the Myth of Total Efficiency by Tom Demarco
• Record or upload a video question for Jason and David
• Get Basecamp for free at Basecamp.com
• Books by 37signals
• HEY World | HEY
• REWORK podcast merch
• The REWORK podcast
• The Rework Podcast on YouTube
• The 37signals Dev Blog
• 37signals on YouTube
• @37signals on X