Stefan Fatsis and Josh Levin are joined by Slate’s Jack Hamilton to talk about Draymond Green, Dillon Brooks, and NBA villainy. Chicago White Sox announcer Jason Benetti also joins to discuss how to call a baseball game in the pitch-clock era. Finally, Talia Barrington comes on for a conversation about same-sex pairs in figure skating.

NBA villains (3:01): The basketball playoffs need bad guys.

Jason Benetti (24:39): “We are covering a different sport now.”

Same-sex pairs (47:10): Is figure skating ready for a monumental change?

Afterball (1:05:24): Stefan on the Athletics’ long history of threatening to move.

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