Be It Till You See It

Lesley Logan shares her thoughts on the 25th anniversary of 9/11 in this Fuck Yeah Friday, sitting with why remembering the people behind that day matters more the further away from it we get. She shares a funny win about making a new friend at almost 44, and a listener win from a Pilates instructor who called her own class a banger.

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In this episode you will learn about:

• Why it's important to keep the stories of 9/11.
• Lesley's experience and where she was during that day.
• Reunion with a former podcast guest that needed no apologies.
• A listener win on teaching a successful all-apparatus class. .
• Why it's important to recognize your own value.

Episode References/Links:

• Homicide: New York – https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31556143
• @etain_pilates – https://www.instagram.com/etain.pilates
• Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions

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Resources:

• Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-g
• Lesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/
• Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/
• Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/
• Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQ
• Profitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/

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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

It's Fuck Yeah Friday. 

Brad Crowell 0:02  

Fuck yeah! 

Lesley Logan 0:05  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. 

Lesley Logan 0:48  

Hi, Be It babe. How are you? Happy Friday! I just looked at the date on this episode, so I also want to just acknowledge that it is September 11th. Today is our Fuck Yeah Friday episode. It is the episode where we can have a little vent moment. We get to share some wins. We do an affirmation. We just are human beings together. And I just want to say, I'm recording this in the past, and I don't know how today feels for a lot of us. You know, I had a whole different thing to vent about, but I think what I most am sad about on this day, as we approach, it's like the 20-ish, it's the 25th anniversary of 9/11, and I know it's hard for people to watch videos and go back to that time. And I also feel like the further we get from it, the more we forget it happened, and it happened, and it affected people tremendously. And I was watching this show on, I think it's on HBO. It's Homicide New York, and it's a Dick Wolf thing. So it's real detectives doing homicide. So it's SVU, but not because it's the real stuff, and they're real New Yorkers or real cops. And however you feel about that, it's really interesting stories. And on the last season that I watched, the last episode was on 9/11, and they told their stories, and they showed these videos, and they showed these photos, and they talked about their families, and they talked about wearing a suit and running, and the health things that they've had afterwards.

Lesley Logan 2:12  

And I think I just want to say, I do understand how hard it can be for us to, every year, watch the video of the attack, but I do think it's important that we remember the stories of the people whose lives were lost or affected by this day. I think that that is one of the most patriotic things we can do in a world where it feels hard to be patriotic. To be honest, I don't feel that way about the fourth, but I just want to say on this day, I felt so far away from it when I was when it happened. I was in college in Southern California, so far away and so young. I didn't have a TV, you know. I didn't even get to see any of the footage because all the only TV that I knew about was in the women's dorms, and we couldn't go there. And so I really felt so far away and unaware of how it affected people, the economy, and so I was reading it in People magazine, you know, that kind of thing. So I'll just say, it took me a little longer than I would like to be completely, fully immersed in all that happened. It makes me sad today that there's people who'd even challenge that it did, or how it did, or why it did, and you know, so I miss the time when we just all got together and really loved each other. So, if you lost anyone or you were affected in any way by 9/11, my heart is with you today, and always, because we can't pretend like those things didn't change us, whether or not you were an 18-year-old at college and unsure of what the world was, or you were in New York, right? Gotta take care of each other. 

Lesley Logan 3:50  

Now, win my win for today, and it actually has to do with I made a new friend, right? This is a funny win, but I like to share it because I'm an adult. I'm almost 44 years old, but I'm, I made a new friend, and it was really fun. We were, we, she's been on the podcast, so we talked, and I was on her podcast years and years ago, and then we just didn't connect again. And then she thought of me for a thing, and she invited me, and we just picked up where we left off. No apologies for, hey, it's been six years since we talked. None of that. It was just like, and we were vulnerable with things in our life and just honest and no competition whatsoever. We're actually in the same sort of industry when it comes to coaching, and I mean different. She's in fitness and I'm in Pilates, but it was just nice to be with a person and talk. And our husbands got along. We got along with each other's husbands. It was just so much fun, and I just, it just was really nice. And so my win is, I could have easily not gone to the thing, because Lord knows I had 17,000 things to do. I could have easily not hung out for lunch because they need to drive home and I have a thousand things to do, but I think we both needed time, and so I've made a point to make sure that I reach out to her regularly because I am notorious for Aquarius brain. You're in there, and I'm thinking of you. But I just want to say, I don't say yes to everything, but if you are feeling lonely, if you're feeling you're alone on an island, then you should say yes to an invitation. You can always leave. Okay, you always leave. 

Lesley Logan 5:23  

Okay, your win that you sent in. This is from @etain_pilates. I apparently taught a banger of a class last night. My girls just loved it. It was all apparatus. Congratulations! That's so wonderful. Good for you. You know what? I love when a Pilates instructor acknowledges that they're fucking badass at what they do. Too many people in the Pilates industry are telling themselves a shitty story about how good they are as a teacher or how were they as a teacher, and all that is doing is allowing these VC firms to come in, open up studios with fake equipment, poorly trained teachers. Those poor teachers don't even know that they're poorly trained. They don't know. They think that they're getting a great job doing the thing that sounds so cool. Looks so cool on Instagram, and meanwhile, the most amazing teachers are over here going, "Oh my God, am I good enough?" Well, you are, you are. So thanks for sharing your win. My loves, topics, wins. Send them in to beitpod.com/questions. I want to hear and share your wins. You will want to hear them on days that are hard, like today, because you are doing some great things in this world. You're making magic happen every single day. You're being it till you see it.

Lesley Logan 6:26  

Oh, here's your mantra. This is so good. I am my greatest ally. I am my greatest ally. Babe, you are your greatest ally. So go Be It Till You See It.

Lesley Logan 6:37  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 7:19  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 7:24  

It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.

Brad Crowell 7:29  

Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan 7:36  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 7:39  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

Part four of the Listen to Yourself series moves from analysis paralysis into aligned action. Lesley Logan makes the case that a dysregulated body cannot make a decision that will still feel good tomorrow. She walks through the reality check she runs on every big opportunity, why most choices are experiments rather than permanent sentences, and what changed when she lowered the stakes on a health decision she wanted to rush. The goal is not a flawless choice. It is trusting yourself to handle the outcome.

If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at [email protected] mailto:[email protected].

And as always, if you’re enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.

In this episode you will learn about:

• The energy exchange to negotiate when a yes costs extra capacity.
• Why treating a decision as too big keeps you from starting.
• What an exit strategy reveals about a choice you are avoiding.
• How to tell a spacious decision from an impressive one.
• Where the outsized pressure on everyday choices actually comes from.

Episode References/Links:

• Lesley on Pilates Perspectives Podcast - https://beitpod.com/pilatesperspectives
• Ep. 682 - Listen to Yourself Series 1 - https://beitpod.com/ep682
• Ep. 683 - Listen to Yourself Series 2 - https://beitpod.com/683
• Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions

If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSI

DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipment

Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper’s Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipment

Be in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlist

Be It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-survey

Be a part of Lesley’s Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/

FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/

Resources:

• Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-g
• Lesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/
• Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/
• Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/
• Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQ
• Profitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/

Follow Us on Social Media:

• Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/
• The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-g
• Facebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilates
• LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/
• The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses

Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

You don't want to make a regulated decision and then get dysregulated doing the decision. We don't want to do that. Have a reality check. How does this fit in with my current systems that I need? And if I say yes to this and it imbalances something, that doesn't mean it's a no. It just means I need support around that imbalance. 

Lesley Logan 0:15  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:58  

Hey, Be It babe! Welcome back to our part four of the listening series, listening to yourself series. Today we're going to move from analysis paralysis into aligned action. We live in a world full of so many pressures and pressures that we put on ourselves, pressures that we think people are putting on us, pressures of just what the fuck is going on out there, and we have to make choices. And there's pressure to make everything that we do look impressive or exciting, so people on social even get excited about it. And it's actually just destroying all of our peace. I was on the Balanced Body podcast, Pilates Perspectives, and I said I'm a reluctant social media person because the reality is, is I really don't like when I have to post things for the likes of it all and the shares of it all. I actually just want to post what I want to post about, and that's kind of how I've moved on with my life. But I feel that pressure to make sure that I look impressive on paper because people are trying to sell tickets to things that I'm going to. So I hear you, I feel you, and it is destroying our peace.

Lesley Logan 1:55  

And so we're gonna talk about throwing out the pressure of making a flawless choice because sometimes we think we have to have it all figured out before we can tell people about it, or if we can move forward, and that's not helpful. Instead, focusing on making sustainable decision based on listening to you, so we're gonna help choose that next step so that you can enjoy the next 10-plus years of your life, but without having to solve the next 10-plus years of your life, because that's really difficult to do. Just look up at the last 10 years of all of our lives. Do any of us expect this to happen? No. I cannot believe I'm sitting here recording this episode. At the time I'm recording, I've lived here in Vegas for six years and one month, and I can tell you right now that in 2019, I was not planning on living here until 2023. So shows you what we know about being able to solve the next 10 years.

Lesley Logan 2:44  

Okay, so first thing we need to make sure we're doing when we are making decisions and going inward is that we must first be regulated. So we've talked about this in past solo series, but if you are in survival mode, if you're in burnout or panic, if you are really struggling right now, I actually think that the most important thing you can do in making decisions to listening to yourself is actually find a way to regulate. What do you need to do? Is it going to see a therapist and then you can make decisions? Is it journaling? Is it listening to some music? Is it taking a hot bath? What helps you get out of the survival mode, feeling, energy, situation, so that you can then make a good decision? Because I never, I'm, I don't say never. I have made exactly the right decisions from a bad place, but the way I handled it wasn't how I would have liked if I had just waited an hour a day to then do the response. I might have still made the same response, but how I would have handled it would have been different, and it would have created less aftermath. Right? 

Lesley Logan 3:53  

Brad and I were talking about something yesterday, and I was just like, "You, you can send this email." And he was at the end of like, I'm just gonna wait till tomorrow because I want to get my thoughts out. And so I think it's just how beautiful when you understand that you're dysregulated. You cannot make a great decision that's going to feel good tomorrow. So get regulated and then make a decision. Do you need to write the thing down? I need to make a decision on this. Okay, great. Then leave that posted out. Go regulate yourself, and then make a decision. You'll just feel better. It'll be so much easier to hear you because otherwise you're hearing those other voices in your head, right? The ones that are not really you. There are different versions of you. There are different people in your life that somehow moved in. 

Lesley Logan 4:34  

This is an interesting thought. It came up in my research. I think it has some validity, but I also want to do everything in moderation. So, does this fit your actual life reality check? So, there are big offer opportunities that are going to come in your life, and you do need to consider your current situation, health, energy, and the season that you're in. Because the opportunity might be really great on paper, but a terrible timing right now if you're going to lose sleep or sanity, and so I don't want this to be a rule you live by. Because we adopted Darla, and our actual life reality check, we have a tour in two months, and ideally we'd be home for three months with her before we went on tour because we really want her to be in the routines. We want her to be trained. She's still jumping on people, blah blah blah. So obviously, adopting Darla is a great idea because I was listening to myself and I was, I really love this dog. She's fucking cool, and I can get other dogs with this dog. So I would just say, when doing the actual reality check and listening to yourself, I would make sure that if moving forward you feel expansive, as we talked about in the last episode and the first series of the listening series, if you feel expansive and it doesn't fit the actual life, then I probably would still move forward, but figure out how you can move, how you can make it work. So, for example, with the Darla situation, I said we can adopt her if you can find a trainer who can see us eight times before we leave, because we have eight weeks and I want eight connections with a trainer with her. So we did that, and we found a trainer who'll work on our crazy-ass schedule because it felt expansive to have her. It felt fun to have her. 

Lesley Logan 6:16  

So another situation I can share with you: there's an organization that reached out to me, and they want me to teach for them next year. And I have been very adamant that I'm not saying yes to anything before May of next year because I have so much going on, and I want to be home to work on it. And I don't want to be distracted and on planes. And so this opportunity is big, and it is after the timeline I've set. So I'm not having to hem and haw and go against something that I said I wouldn't do, but I also looked at where I am in this season of my year. I've been gone for three weeks. Can I still balance everything that I've already committed to in that month on top of being gone for three weeks? The answer is actually kind of yes, I can. And also, if I'm gonna work a little extra hard to make sure I can balance it, then I have to also ask for X per day, because I'm gonna need the energy exchange to be there, right? Because I can't work extra hard to make sure I get my other commitments done in time to be present there, and then get paid half what I need, because while it is fun and it'll be great on paper and it'll be really impressive on social, it does have to refill my cup and money as energy, right? 

Lesley Logan 7:30  

So when you're looking at these big opportunities, you do need to think: Am I losing sleep for this? I'm doing something in the end of this year. I said yes to an event, and it's going to cause me a little extra travel, and I just made sure that I have hotels covered so I can get there a day early. I can stay a day late so I can get my sleep and get caught up on my work before I'm on a plane for 25 hours. Right? 

Lesley Logan 7:54  

So there's just some things you have to think about a second longer because dysregulation doesn't mean that you're always triggered and anxious. It could be, oh my God, this is the coolest day. I'm so excited that you're not even thinking about the ramifications of the yes. So listening, right, and then asking for help so that you can take on the amazing opportunity without sacrificing the things that keep you sane. You don't want to make a regulated decision and then get dysregulated doing the decision. We don't want to do that. Have a reality check. How does this fit in with my current systems that I need? And if I say yes to this, and it imbalances something, that doesn't mean it's a no. It just means I need support around that imbalance. What do I need to hire, do, get? Right?  

Lesley Logan 8:30  

Third, I think sometimes we have to, in listening to ourselves and making decisions, we do need to lower the stakes a little bit. We tend to think of choices as an experiment or permanent sentences. This is how it's going to be forever. If we can actually think of our choices like this is an experiment, I can try this out. I can always go, "Oh my God! I know I said yes to this, but this is not working out." And for the most part, I mean, there's contracts involved and things like that. But I am maybe annoyingly so quite communicative. I think I could say yes to this. Here's why I have to have everything into you by, so I can stay on top of the other commitments I already have. Here's when I would like to do it by, if that works for you. I had somebody ask me for X, Y, and Z. It wasn't really a decision I could make. I had to do it, and I just said yes. You will have it by Monday of next week. If you need it sooner, let me know. But I wasn't expecting to have to do this this week. So, if you don't mind, I'd like to get to the end of day on Monday, right? And that way, I am telling them I'm a very busy person. I heard you. I see you. I will get you what you need, but this is when you can expect to get it by. That way, they're not bugging me because I don't. I'm someone who's not anyone bugging. I don't want any. I don't let anyone down. So, know that most choices are experiments, and you can change things, especially if you communicate that in the first place. Oh yes, I would love to do this. However, I can only do it on Tuesdays and Thursdays, or I would love to do Y, but I can only do it on the weekends. I have a girlfriend. I'd love to see you, and I can see you on this weekend any day after 2 o'clock. So that way, it's not a perfect sentence because I would hate for it to go. Oh yeah, I'd love to see you. 10 a.m. on Saturday. I'm like, oh, I can't do that. And then I feel like an asshole. No, I literally put it out there in the first place. So the more you listen to yourself and feel, I feel expansive. But this is what has to happen. Great, just share that. It's often not a death sentence, right?

Lesley Logan 10:19  

This opportunity Brad was thinking would go one way, and we got information that it's like it's going a different way. And he was so frustrated, and I feel all of your frustrations. And I'm not seeing how this is a bad thing, because we can go yes with all this, and we can go back to this other place and go here's how we can work with you, and it's actually on them. And while it would suck if they don't want to work with us in this capacity, then it wasn't going to be beneficial for us, anyways, right? So lower the stakes of the decision you have to make. Get really clear on it because I think sometimes we think we treat everything like the way parents are treating college. Oh my God, if you don't get into this good school over here, you're going to be a deadbeat. And then that turned in from college to the particular high school that you have to get into, and then that went to the elementary school you have to get your kid into. And if you go to L.A., you are trying to sign a baby up you haven't even had in your body yet, because they got to get into that preschool. Otherwise, they won't get into that elementary school, and they won't get into that, and they won't get into this. Most decisions are not that big of a deal. There are ones that are. There are some decisions that are massive deals, right? There's health decisions that you really have to think about, and that really are going to affect your life. You know, I got information about my breast cancer risk, and when I first got it, it felt like I have to just make this decision, and then that actually made me feel anxious, trapped a bit, frustrated, pissed off. It did not make me feel expansive. It made me feel like it was going to control my life. Then I actually went back to our last episode, got an opinion of someone who went through a very similar thing, just a different experience. She actually did have cancer, and her honesty with me was so beautiful. And then I got information from someone else who also went through something very similar, but even more serious, and that helped me understand. Oh, I'm in a really good situation. I lower the stake. I'm actually getting actually have someone checking on this twice a year. So for right now, the decision that I need to make isn't making me feel expansive. It's making me feel anxious. So let's lower the stakes a little bit. The doctor isn't as concerned as I am treating this right now, and I can take some time to really explore this and treat it like an experiment. And if I was to go with this route, you know, does that feel expansive? What are the pros and cons of that? What does that make me feel like? Okay, that, how does this option make me feel? And I can take the time. And that's even with an important decision. But I do have the time right now. I have the time. Go get your mammograms, ladies. Go see if you can get checked for your risk levels because it's really, really important to me. 

Lesley Logan 13:01  

Okay, I think we tend to put some decisions that we have to make in that same high-stakes scenario when they're not there. And so, what if you played around? What if you set the stage? What if you set the tone? What if you set the boundaries? If you was going to go this way, what would you need? That's so helpful, and that's listening to yourself because what I don't want is I don't want you to make a choice that's bold and amazing, and then you second guess yourself, right? I don't want that. I know what that feels like, yeah. And sometimes we do it anyways because you know we're like, oh my God, I got into this. I have the person who can still do it, but that's very different than was that the right decision. I should have done this thing, right? Because of course you're going to have moments where you're doubting yourself, and that's when you get back into whose opinions of you matter. Why are you doing the thing? Listening to your body is that voice that you're hearing even yours? Whenever I'm like, oh my God, how am I going to do this? It's not me. It's the scared people in my my life who were afraid to ruffle feathers. If I listen to me, actually, I don't really worry about ruffling feathers that much. Thank God for being Aquarius. 

Lesley Logan 14:12  

All right. So your homework assignment, your Be It Action Items. I want you to take some time to take a decision you have to make, and is this decision leading you toward something that looks cool to outsiders, or is that decision actually spacious and sustainable for you? So, are you making a decision based on what you think other people want you to do, or what other people will think? Are you making it based on what is sustainable and spacious for you? 

Lesley Logan 14:40  

The next one is really interesting. I haven't done this one in a while, but if you were to take the next step and you actually hated it, what is the exit strategy? So I do like this one. I just haven't done it in a while, and it is really a good one. So what's the exit strategy? And that kind of is the same thing when you start any business. By the way, you're like, how do I want to exit it? Because how you want to exit actually talks about how you want to set things up, and it can change. But obviously, it's better if you know. So, what's your exit strategy if you actually do hate it? What would you do, right? Because if it is a concrete wall that you created in making this decision, it doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. It just means you need to listen a little bit more because it might not be. And then, if you have a way to reverse a decision, then you can do that. 

Lesley Logan 15:20  

Lastly, I want you to take a moment and journal about if you're delaying taking action because you're kind of too obsessed with the next decade. Because I do think about, oh my God, in 10 years I'm going to be 53 years old, and then I'm oh my God, how am I going to get the things that I'm working on now to be in the place that I want them to be, so that at 53 years old I could be working on my retirement exit, right? So let me just tell you, you may as well hit dysregulate as a button on my body. It will freak me out. It'll make me actually put too much pressure on everything. Nothing good will come out of it.

Lesley Logan 15:55  

So I I want you to ask yourself if you're delaying making a decision because you're making the decision too big and too important. What if you just took one tiny, tiny step of the decision? What if you dipped your toe in the water? Right? Can you take one step and get more data so that then you can listen even more to yourself? Those are your homework and journaling assignments for when you're making decisions and how to listen to yourself. I hope this was helpful. I also just want to say we often worry about the success of decisions we're making, but we define what success means to us, right? If you define what success means to you, if you really define and it really is your definition, you might even find that you're already successful. Then it's not about making a flawless choice. It's about trusting yourself enough to know that you can handle whatever outcome happens. You can whatever the decision is. One of my favorite coaches said, "Your business is not as fragile as you think it is." And I like to think about that on most decisions we have to make. For the most part, they're not gonna create fragility in our life. There are some things that are really big deals, and I hope that we only have to make those decisions. You know, like someone is on life support. That's a big fucking decision, right? Hopefully, they already wrote it down.

Lesley Logan 17:18  

But our brain doesn't know how to prioritize what we're going to wear today versus how do I want to invest my money versus like should I call that job back versus you know it doesn't it creates everything as the same pressure so we have to be the ones that actually take that pressure off right and know that we can handle anything. You've succeeded all your worst days you're still here. Thank you so much. I have one more action step for you. I would love for you to identify one decision you've overthinking. It's one decision you've been overthinking. Can you check in with your body, ditch the need to be perfect, and just choose a next align step. My loves, we have to be self trusting before we will ever see the self-trust in our lives, we have to Be It Till You See It. 

Lesley Logan 18:08  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 18:51  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 18:56  

It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.

Brad Crowell 19:00  

Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan 19:07  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 19:10  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

For some of us advice feels like support. For others it's one more voice to manage. Wherever you land, Lesley Logan borrows a Brené Brown question to sort through the crowd of opinions we collect from mentors, friends, and family, and figure out whose opinion should matter in the first place. Maybe it's time to notice that the smartest people in your life are often smart in a lane that has nothing to do with yours.

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In this episode you will learn about:

• The difference between receiving advice and absorbing advice
• Why other people's advice is really about their fears and limitations
• Not every correction is meant for every body on every day
• How to notice when advice creates urgency, shame, or people-pleasing
• Feedback is information, not instruction

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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

When it comes to knowing what to do next, I think the problem often in being it till we see it, in taking action towards our goals, is that we actually have collected so many opinions about the next step, we have forgotten our own opinion, and we have no idea what to do. We almost have too many options.

Lesley Logan 0:16  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. 

Lesley Logan 0:58  

Hello, Be It babe. Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It podcast. It's a solo week, so we're talking about listening to ourselves again. You guys love that series so much. We're taking it to the next step, which really is this one's near and dear to me because I think there's actually this happens a lot in the Pilates industry a lot. So I might use my Pilates experience to talk through this idea. So you don't have to know Pilates to, you can insert anything, massage, engineering, whatever it is for that. Hopefully, I think. So, when it comes to knowing what to do next, I don't actually think the problem is that you don't know what to do. I think the problem often in being it till we see it and in taking action towards our goals is that we actually have collected so many opinions about the next step, we forgot our own opinion, and we have no idea what to do. We almost have too many options, right? It's like when I go to the Cheesecake Factory. I don't because I know how big the menu is, and I don't even know where to start. What let me know. 

Lesley Logan 1:53  

So in this third part of our listening series, we're going to talk about the discernment and advice overload, and because I don't want you to not have outside feedback, but I also don't want outside feedback hijacking your internal signal, right? I want us to be able to break down how you receive input without absorbing all of it, so that you can, one, stop asking for permission from people who aren't even in the same place as you or going to the same place as you, but also discern, like when should you absorb it? When should you let it? I get so much advice unsolicited all the fucking time. I would be in an insane asylum if I absorbed most of it. And I think part of having a little bit of the, not a little bit, part of being ADHD is that I do forget a lot of it, so that's good. Part of being ADHD is that I have a sensitivity to rejection, so sometimes I don't want people's thoughts and opinions to, if I don't take it, I don't want them to feel bad. But I've had to learn through a lot of almost burnout. How do I go, "Oh wow, thank you so much for that. I can see how that worked for you," right? How do I have a nice way? And maybe you have to come up with those nice ways so that you can receive information without absorbing the things that you don't need. So first, let's talk about how do we receive without absorbing advice. 

Lesley Logan 3:05  

So I've talked about this concept a few times on this podcast, but just in case you're new, hi, and just in case you need to hear it again, we need to have a boundary between listening to someone else's perspective and letting it trigger our anxiety or creating an urgency that's outside of the pace we want to go, or creating shame in our own nervous system. So we do have to have a good awareness of ourselves and how we operate and how our systems function. And this is where getting to know yourself is really important. And how do you do that?

Lesley Logan 3:34  

Sometimes it is figuring out your operating system. Right? I have an autism and ADHD systems that I've discovered, and now everything makes sense, including the Aquarian in me. Knowing that it actually explains why some things activate me more, some things make me feel more anxious than other things should. So, knowing yourself is really, really important. But when it comes to receiving advice and information, we do need to have some sort of filtration. So, for me, this piece of advice that I heard on a podcast 15 years ago was from Brené Brown, right? Our wonderful Brené Brown, which is having awareness around whose opinions of you or what you're doing matter, and then have them on a list, have them on a piece of paper, and then making sure that they know that.

Lesley Logan 4:17  

So there are people in your family, in my family, in our lives, dear friends, who think that they're being helpful with the information that they're giving, but it is coming from a place of their own situation, right? And so we do need to be aware. Like, you know, you would, if you are trying to go to dental school, you are not asking me, you are not coming to this podcast for dental school advice. I actually don't know much about that. I know what I want a good dentist to do and be, but I don't know where, what the best schools are. I don't even know how the best you research that. I don't know how long that would take. You would ask your favorite dentist or the dentist that inspired you, right? You would ask them, and so having clarity around the area that you're going into, the steps you want to take, and making sure that you maybe even take a moment to go, "If I'm going to share this information with people that I'm doing this, whose advice am I actually going to listen to, and whose advice am I going to let go one ear and out the other?" Right? How am I going to just go, "Oh, okay, great." And I don't want you to think that I'm flippant or that I don't appreciate people's time in telling me what they think, but honestly, advice I got today was that I need more dogs. I would love more dogs, but I don't need more dogs. And if I were to absorb that information, I would actually start to think about how to get more dogs. And really, my goal right now is creating a teacher training program that actually works really well, right? So the way that I am actually filtering even the podcast that I listen to is: Does this have information that can support the place I'm going, or is it creating fear? If it's creating fear, I have to stop listening because fear is not going to help me feel confident in what I'm doing, but if it is, "Oh yeah, that is actually good information to keep in mind," then I can write it down. I can take a moment to absorb it, right?

Lesley Logan 6:08  

So really, take notice in your day about when are you just receiving information or when are you letting it stick with you. You know, I was listening to a podcast the other day and I heard some bad news. Has nothing to do with my life, technically, but it was playing on repeat in my brain. Hold on, this is confusing my next steps on this thing because I'm so distracted by this thing that has nothing to do with me right now. You know, so having awareness is going to be really, really key. Which brings us to, I've been kind of dancing around this, but I'm going to dive in deeper. The danger of misaligned mentors. So most people's advice for us is a reflection of their fears, their limitations, their values, not yours. Now you guys might align in values, right? There might be some that are very similar. They may even have the best intentions, but oftentimes there's fears in there, right? As they ask questions, they're really trying to get their own, and often it's subconscious, their own fears quelled, but it can actually stir up yours. So a story is Brad and I've talked about my mom's dad, my grandfather.

Lesley Logan 7:13  

We stopped telling him where we were traveling because he was, "Oh, that's so dangerous. That's this, that's that." And it's first of all, I live in a country that is actually on 134th or 37th in danger. So come on, it's not up there with safety. It's not in the, it's down at 137 because it's unsafe. So he lived a life of fear of people, fear of traveling, and so if I had listened to him, I would never have. And I have people in my life who did listen to him, and they saw nothing, you know. And I feel really bad because honestly, I think travel is one of the best things you could do to realize that we're more the same than we are different. 

Lesley Logan 7:49  

So when we are sharing or soliciting opinions from people, we do need to make sure that those mentors are in alignment with us, right? We do need to really explore that. For example, a lot of people who teach differently than me ask me questions about how to teach X, how to teach Y, and often are disappointed in my answer or confused because it is different than how they were taught. Well, I'm not trying to confuse them or disappoint them. I only know how I was taught, and I only know why I still believe what I teach based on my own research, my own curiosities, my own studying. Right, so I actually cannot speak to how they were taught that exercise, and so unintentionally, they have asked a misaligned mentor, even if they like me. Misaligned mentors do not mean they're bad people, right? I don't think I'm a bad person, but if I'm not in alignment with how you want to teach, I can be a confusing person to go to. Now please keep coming to my tutorials. Please keep asking me questions. But also, I'm going to come from my own lens, and that's human nature. I cannot come from your lens. I didn't live your life, right? That goes for any mentor. 

Lesley Logan 8:57  

I had some really, there were some really great coaches that I had invested in, and people told me that they would be really, really great for my business. And they said how much they were great for their business. And you want to know what? They're probably great coaches, and they were completely misaligned for what I was doing. They had no experience in the area I was in. Now I would say that's on them because they sold me and they told me that they could help me. I did not know that they did not have experience in what I do. I was trusting the opinions of other people. So really making sure that as you're looking for mentors, as you're looking for people to be in your ear, in your corner, that you are aware of your values first of all, that you can figure out what their values are, and when you ask for advice, if you are bothered or disappointed or frustrated by some of the advice you get, ask follow-up questions. "Oh, why would you say that? Why do you think that? Oh, where is that coming from?" They might not even know, but if you ask them, it might help clarify. So, for example, when people go, "Oh, I just had someone who listens to the podcast who was talking about the Wunda Chair springs on mine are really hard to change, and I don't have that experience because my life experience with the chair is easy for me to switch the springs. But based on their life experience, it's not. So my follow-up question was, "Oh, tell me more about what you're used to. Tell me how you're doing it," right? So that when I give advice, it can be in alignment with the goal that they're having. So it really is a two-way street. Most, hopefully, hopefully you're choosing mentors of people who actually want to be a mentor, and they've taken time to understand what that looks like. Sometimes we pick mentors who have no idea that they're your mentor, and that goes back to what I said about Brené Brown. She says, "Who are the people whose opinions matter, and do they know? Do they know that?" Because that can also weigh differently, you know.

Lesley Logan 10:42  

How, if I know somebody is, for example, people who are in my eLevate program, I weigh how I give them answers to their questions differently than someone who's just randomly asking me on YouTube. Why? One, I know them. I know what they're going to do with the information. I know who they're teaching. I know what equipment they're on. Someone on YouTube, I actually don't know what equipment they're on. I don't know what they're doing with the information. I don't know where often the information is coming from. So I have to give, I have to give an answer that's in alignment with what I believe and what I think, but it can't be as detailed and nuanced because I don't know the context that is being asked in. Right? Who gets to be information that you absorb? Who gets to be information that you look from and you look to? So something that's really popular in Pilates today is cue, cue, cue. Correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct. And the reality is, is that the one that's unhelpful for people to always be correcting them. It's not how people learn. It's not how motor learning works. In fact, if we only focus on people aren't doing well, we are not ever taking time for them to do something well, right? And so, if you're in that class where everyone is, where the teacher is cueing and cueing and correcting and correcting, and you hear something that was meant for somebody else, but you apply it to your body, you can get hurt, right?

Lesley Logan 12:04  

My husband was in a yoga class. We'll just use yoga for this example because this is really interesting. My husband has a lot of hypermobility in his joints, and the teacher was giving a correction to several people in the class, and Brad went to go do it, which meant he overcorrected in the exercise, and the teacher goes, "Not for you. Not every cue is for you." Part of doing yoga is understanding when a cue is for you, right? And so the teacher actually had to, for a long time, give the class a correction and then go, "Not you, Brad," right? Because if you have not created the muscle that allows you to know when to integrate and when to just let it go, it's very easy to overwhelm yourself. And this is what I see in Pilates teachers, they're studying from so many different people. As, by the way, you should have, you should in your life experience different mentors. So I'm not trying to gatekeep there, but if you're trying to study from me and three other classical teachers, you're going to get four different voices in your head, right? And we're probably all even saying somewhat of the same thing, but we come at it from a different approach based on who taught us, based on our own body's experience, based on our own experiences teaching it to people. And if you are trying to take all four of those opinions and go, "Well, how do I apply it to my exercise here?" You are going to be confused, and you're going to feel stuck. And then you got to go back to our stuck series.

Lesley Logan 13:29  

So, I have homework for you, right? I have some Be It Action Items, if you will. I want you to take some time to think about who is in your vote audit, right? List the names of people whose opinions you are going to consider, and maybe you might even think about in what scenarios. I'm absolutely going to listen to my mother-in-law's advice on cooking. Of course, I am not going to listen to her advice on anything that has to do with my entrepreneurial business, not because she's not smart. She's fucking brilliant. In case you're listening, hi, she's brilliant, right? But she doesn't know my experience, what it, what my life is like being on the internet, being something that people talk about, being someone who has an impact that they want to make, and in doing that, will disappoint some people, right? So it's important you have to write down whose opinions of you matter, and maybe in what categories. My mother's an incredible school teacher. Some of her tips for teaching are really applicable to what I do, and also she's a first-grade school teacher, she's not a Pilates teacher.

Lesley Logan 14:38  

So a lot of it isn't because I don't teach in those kinds of formats. I don't have that many students at the same time. They have learned how to read. There's, you know, there's different things. So there are some epic people in your life who have great ideas in narrow areas. The next, if you don't want to do that here, or you can in addition to, I want you to think. Think about the last piece of business or lifestyle advice you received. Did it make your body feel expansive and open, or did it create panic or pressure or a sudden urge to people please? So your body, right? This is the listen to yourself series. Your body is telling you when something feels good, and if people's advice makes you feel like you need to contract, take up less space, that is information for you. Doesn't make the information wrong. I'm not saying that I can't say what's right or wrong. I don't know what the information is, but I want you to notice what it does, because if maybe the information is accurate. Maybe you wanted to go for a hike tomorrow in this amazing space, and somebody says that is going to be terrible. There's a lightning situation that's going to happen and flash flooding. That might make you create panic or pressure or disappointment. That doesn't mean you don't listen to the advice, but it may be okay. Well, maybe I have to focus on why I want to do this in the first place, and what can I do instead? Right? How can we do that? So just notice because your body is telling you things about how you feel about information and what you want in this life. 

Lesley Logan 16:12  

What to do next. Lastly, your last piece of homework or journaling. Who is currently giving you advice or influencing your choices? And so if we did an audit, who do you want? But this is different. Who is it currently? Do you actually want that in your daily life? I did a podcast little adjustment because I just kind of noticed that because I love my morning routine, and I was noticing that between my podcasts and just checking in with the Instagram in the morning, that I often started the mornings feeling a little bit, oh, right, and so I was just, what podcasts am I avoiding? What podcasts are kind of making me feel bored or not making me feel uplifted? So I got rid of some. They're great podcasts, by the way. I would definitely recommend them. There's nothing wrong. It's just that in this place where I am right now, they're not making me feel expansive, and so I'm in search of podcasts that I can learn more from and be inspired by, especially in this fucked-up world we're in. Maybe there isn't a person. Maybe you're just scrolling so much. I have a lot of people that I coach who are making way too many decisions based on what the founders of Meta are fucking doing. Oh my God, why are we letting these billionaires control the actions that we take to make the impact we want? I fucking don't like them either. I'd love to get the fuck off these platforms. However, I have to be where my people are, right? I have to. So I'm gonna do that and hope that I get rich enough to tell them to fuck off. So hopefully that gave you some inspiration. Sometimes we're giving people too much control over our lives. Yeah, and we're losing the goal. So you gotta listen to yourself. So you cannot step into your own authority if you are constantly looking around to other room to see if everyone approves of your path. That is going to be a nightmare. I actually just texted somebody whose opinion matters in the industry that I am in. It doesn't really matter either way for me. However, if what she had said had been negative, I probably been like, fucker. What does she know? But also, what she said back to me was so beautiful, and I was, oh, I didn't need her approval, but I liked having it, right? But I didn't ask for her approval before I started the thing. I started the thing before it, so just be mindful.

Lesley Logan 18:40  

It's okay to want approval in your life, but if you are waiting for that approval before you step out on a path, if the lack of some people's approval has you turning around, I highly recommend you take some time to just really get clear on who you are, what you do, what your values are, because you know I do this in Profitable Pilates, we have people who whose clients complain about a rate increase or a rule, and they're like, "I should change it because this person doesn't like it." It's like this is your business. They cannot like it. They don't have to take Pilates from you, but you are the one who has to live with this business. You're the one who has to pay the bills at the end of the day. You're the one who has to go to bed at night. This is your impact you want to make, so it would be nice if your clients liked the changes, but we cannot use how they feel to determine what we know we have to do for the betterment of our goals and the people that we want to make an impact on. Right? If a client constantly late cancels and never pays the fee because they don't like it, they are keeping someone else who could be very much more consistent and very much needs that time from getting to work with you. So not only is that person screwing you over, it's screwing someone else over. So if you can't make changes based on you, you certainly need to think about the people that it's affecting when you don't listen to yourself.

Lesley Logan 20:03  

All right, my loves, we're gonna be back later this week with our fourth episode in the listening series because once we have cleared out the advice overload, we can reclaim your voice, and so we're actually gonna do that so you can make a good choice in your life. So make sure you turn into the next episode and do the homework between now and then. I would love to hear what you think of these solo episodes. Share this with a friend who needs to hear it. And until next time, Be It Till You See It.

Lesley Logan 20:24  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 21:07  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 21:12  

It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.

Brad Crowell 21:16  

Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan 21:24  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 21:27  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

Lesley Logan celebrates the week her upLift teacher training program crossed into its next phase, with educators applying to teach alongside her for the first time. She shares an honest rant about six years of Las Vegas construction cones, a breath work win from the eLevate group, and a two listener who shared their win. It's a reminder that a goal that keeps on moving is not a goal you are failing at.

If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at [email protected] mailto:[email protected].

And as always, if you’re enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.

In this episode you will learn about:

• Why every vent in Lesley's community must arrive paired with a win.
• Living around constant construction cones in Las Vegas for six years.
• What upLift looks like now that trained educators are stepping in.
• Community wins from breath work to 600th milestone celebration.
• This week's affirmation about being understood for your own perspective.

Episode References/Links:

• upLift - xxll.co/uws
• eLevate - https://lesleylogan.co/elevate
• @lorilwatson - https://www.instagram.com/lorilwatson
• @matandspring - https://www.instagram.com/matandspring
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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

It's Fuck Yeah Friday. 

Lesley Logan 0:01  

Fuck yeah! 

Lesley Logan 0:02  

Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:48  

Be It babe. Hi, welcome to our Friday episode. How are you? Oh, it's a Fuck Yeah Friday, and it really is a fuck yeah. As Brad would say, my goodness, this year, I knew when I went on my vacation in January, this year was going to be one of those years where I just put the pedal to the metal, and I'm grateful for it. So, so grateful for it. And this last week, I just did something I've been looking. It's been on the books, right? But I'll share that one in a second. Because first, hello, welcome to Be It Pod. On Fridays, we celebrate a win of yours, a win of mine, and something that we do with our members is if we want to vent about something, then they have to share a win. So, I'm venting with you because this is where I get to vent. It's my podcast.

Lesley Logan 1:25  

So, if you don't know how the local Las Vegans live, we live around construction grounds. Okay, so my little vent moment is, I have lived in Las Vegas now six years and three months, and in six years and three months, there was construction on the main road to my house. You'd have to make a left on. It was on so long that when they moved the construction, then Brad missed our turn. That's how long the construction was there. We moved here with construction, and it was on so long we didn't know what our actual turn was. And they, my friends, they moved the construction to the road perpendicular, right, the cross street, and so that construction was so bad that people oftentimes were in the wrong lane multiple times, and now that construction has just moved a little bit further south and then a little bit further east. And guess what? I either have to sit in traffic to go further south and go to all my appointments, and not have traffic when I make a left, or I make a right, and I have no traffic until I have traffic right where I have to park. And so I just had to say, I'm really tired of the construction cones because they literally do it on all of the streets all at the same time, all the time. I don't even know you do that. I don't even know you do that. I want, in fact, want to invest in stocks and orange counts. That's what I want to do. 

Lesley Logan 2:43  

All right. So now that I've vented, do you understand what I mean, though? I live in L.A. All right, I lived in L.A., and they would be working on the street for a year, right? Because they're widening the roads or widening the 405 or whatever they're doing. You know what they would never do? Do it the same fucking time. They would never let Wilshire have construction and then also Santa Monica, or Olympic, or even any other street within three miles north or south, because you can't screw with people's lives like that. And if Lesley takes public transportation, I would love public transportation to be more accessible for everybody, not just for me, but for the actual people who need to go and drive somewhere every day. I do not have to do that, so this is just a really stupid vent.

Lesley Logan 3:20  

But anyways, my win, my win. So as I started to get into it, because I was so excited about this win. So as you know, I've been working on upLift, a teacher training program for new teachers or partially trained teachers, and this last week, the applications been rolling in for the educators, and I am just so pleased to punch for the people who are braving this new world with me. I am so honored and grateful, and I'm proud of them for being in a place where they've elevated to the point where they're like, "Yeah, I can teach this shit." So my win is that the stage has been set, and we are on the next stage of this goal that I've been working on. Because, you know, not every goal is done. You've little parts like the construction; it just moves up the road. But this is the good guy. So I'm at the next phase of this program, and I'm now no longer doing it by myself. I will have educators to do this with me, and I'm just freaking excited. So yeah, so that's what's going on. If you are wanting to know more information about my upLlift Teacher Training Program, go to xxll.co/uws. We've got to get a main link for all this stuff. Anyways, that'll be a win when I get that. 

Lesley Logan 4:20  

In the meantime, a win of yours, and then a little mantra. So this is from @lorilwatson. Had breath work with you. Oh, Lori Watson, fucking love you. I love you, and she has Winsday, Wednesday, Winsdays, or like Fuck Yeah Wednesdays and Fuck Yeah Sundays in the eLevate group. So Lori, thank you for doing breath work with me and @matandspring, "Passed my 600 today!!!" Fuck yeah, get it, girl. Oh my goodness, I am just, you guys are amazing. So you send your wins in to beitpod.com/questions. You can also send in topics you're wanting to do solo episodes on. Today, as I record this, I'm also going to record some solo episodes for a new theme that you guys requested. So beitpod.com/questions. This is where you send that, and as you know, when you support OPC, you are supporting this podcast. So you can support OPC by buying our flashcards or becoming a member, joining our amazing community. So go to onlinepilatesclasses.com. Thank you all so much. 

Lesley Logan 5:13  

Here is your affirmation for the day: I am understood, and my perspective is important. I am understood, and my perspective is important. My love, you are understood, and your perspective is so important. Now go have an amazing day, and Be It Till You See It.

Lesley Logan 5:33  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 6:15  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 6:20  

It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.

Brad Crowell 6:25  

Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan 6:32  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 6:35  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

Perimenopause is basically reverse puberty, and it can run 10 to 15 years before you are on the other side of it. Yep! Lesley and Brad recap the conversation with Dr. Amy Loden, covering what your bloodwork leaves out and why giving birth works like a stress test that reveals the health issues that were already there before you got pregnant. They also spotlight AFSP for Suicide Prevention Awareness Month.

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In this episode you will learn about:

• Why women need to pay attention to their bodies during perimenopause.
• What "you're within range" bloodwork actually leaves out about your health.
• How pregnancy acts as a stress test that unmasks chronic health conditions.
• Why frequent hot flashes may signal a higher risk for heart disease.
• Updated hormone research helps you make decisions without outdated fears.

Episode References/Links:

• upLift Teacher Training Waitlist - https://xxll.co/uws
• eLevate Live Q&A - lesleylogan.co/elevate
• OPC Summer Tour (Powered by Balanced Body) - https://opc.me/tour
• OPC Flashcards - opc.me/flashcards
• OPC Posters - https://opc.me/posters
• Cambodia Retreat Waitlist - crowsnestretreats.com
• Pilates on Tour - https://xxll.co/pot
• American Foundation for Suicide Prevention – afsp.org
• Charity Navigator – charitynavigator.org
• CharityWatch – charitywatch.org
• The Jed Foundation – jedfoundation.org
• 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline – 988lifeline.org
• Submit your wins or questions – beitpod.com/questions
• Vitality Medical and Wellness - https://www.vitalitymwc.org
• Dr. Amy's TEDx talk on pregnancy - https://beitpod.com/amytedx
• The Postpartum Pivot by Dr. Amy Loden - https://vitalitymwc.org/read-the-book
• Women's Health Initiative - https://www.whi.org
• Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions

If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSI

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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

What better way to be it till we see it, but to listen to our body? Because it's kind of hard to become the version of yourself you want to be if you're not listening to the version of yourself that you are.

Lesley Logan 0:08  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Brad Crowell 0:51  

Take it away.

Lesley Logan 0:52  

Welcome back to the "Be It Till You See" interview recap, where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the informed convo I had with Dr. Amy Logan Tiffany in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to the interview, you missed on some good fucking stuff. Oh my god, I felt like my jaw was on the floor a couple of times. It was so good. But listen to this, then go listen to that. And spoiler alert: I already interviewed her for the second one. Yeah, I just did it yesterday.

Brad Crowell 1:16  

Wow, awesome!

Lesley Logan 1:17  

Because I was just, oh great, you're back, and it was really, really. It's a really nuanced conversation. I'll explain more later. But today, Brad's going to tell us what today is.

Brad Crowell 1:26  

Yeah, today's September 3rd 2026, and it is Merchant Navy Day. What is a merchant navy? You ask. Let's start with what it's not. The regular navy is a branch of the countries of a country's military responsible for national defense and maritime security. In contrast, a merchant navy or the merchant navy is a civilian commercial fleet that transports cargo and passengers globally to support international trade. So effectively, they work for a company that moves products around the world.

Lesley Logan 1:53  

You could be a merchant navy person and work for multiple different companies.

Brad Crowell 1:57  

That's right. So it has nothing to do with military. It has everything to do with being a ship pilot on a cargo ship, or even a deckhand, or whatever. If you're working in the ports, I'm not sure if you're on ports, if you're part of the merchant navy, but if you're on the boats that are driving around the world, you're.

Lesley Logan 2:12  

Like part of the merchant corporate.

Brad Crowell 2:17  

Sure. Not a pirate. 

Lesley Logan 2:19  

Good, but a pirate.

Brad Crowell 2:20  

Pirates are real, so yeah, they're definitely not pirates. Okay, yeah, but the merchant navy actually would fight pirates. They're.

Lesley Logan 2:26  

Like a consumer sailor.

Brad Crowell 2:28  

Yes, yeah, it's like a, yes, that's right, a commercial sailor.

Lesley Logan 2:32  

Commercial sailor.

Brad Crowell 2:33  

Yes.

Lesley Logan 2:34  

Yeah.

Brad Crowell 2:34  

Yeah. But it's probably not sailing a boat so much as it is sailing a vessel. 

Lesley Logan 2:38  

Vessel, yeah.

Brad Crowell 2:39  

Anyway, so Merchant Navy Day sails into view every September 3. Cute, a dedicated time to honor the invaluable contributions of merchant seafarers worldwide. These brave men and women ensure the flow of goods, fuel, and food that powers our daily lives and economies. Take a moment to learn about their sacrifices, support maritime welfare charities, and recognize their often unseen work.

Lesley Logan 3:00  

I couldn't imagine they're probably on these boats for months at a time.

Brad Crowell 3:04  

Oh, months.

Lesley Logan 3:04  

Months.

Brad Crowell 3:05  

Months. I mean.

Lesley Logan 3:06  

Months on one plate, and then have to come back. They might not ever see their family.

Brad Crowell 3:09  

Yes, yeah. So it's absolutely the case. And for example, when I used to work in skin and hair care, we used to manufacture the, the glass was actually manufactured in Korea, and so I would have to organize the factory to take it to the port, and then the port would put it on a, it would be in pallets, and then the pallets would get loaded into a container, those 40-foot containers, and then the container would go on this massive cargo ship, and then it would drive across the ocean. It's

Lesley Logan 3:41  

Like the size of cruise ships, but just for products.

Brad Crowell 3:43  

Yeah, and then one year there was a strike for the union workers at the port in Long Beach, and I remember our cargo ship got stuck in a line. Lesley, there was a line of 50 cargo ships.

Lesley Logan 3:58  

Do you remember? Because during the pandemic, it's even happened. I feel like our friend Joe Lilly had to send a ship out to a ship to get his stuff. It was a whole thing because there's, what the fuck? We got to get these products off the ship.

Brad Crowell 4:09  

Yeah, and that's very dangerous to do that stuff, you know, on the open water like that because there's just complicated.

Lesley Logan 4:14  

Yeah, so pirates.

Brad Crowell 4:15  

Well, not. I mean, when you have 50 boats in a row, there's unlikely that there's going to be pirates because there's also going to be the navy, the military, oh, the military navy, yeah, will be out making sure that everything is safe. But still, regardless, yeah, I mean, so they had to sail across the ocean, and then they turn around and they have to go back. But the company that they work for, they might be in a whole other country. It's like an airline pilot.

Lesley Logan 4:37  

Yeah.

Brad Crowell 4:37  

You know, for example, one time we were flying to Cambodia, and we were flying through China. And I think maybe it was just me. I sat next to a guy on the plane who was a pilot, and he's from Brazil, flies for a Chinese airline, and then his Chinese flights would go to Europe. His home is in Brazil. He had to fly to China to get on his flight, his job, to fly to Europe, back and forth to China, you know what I mean.

Lesley Logan 5:02  

Got to.

Brad Crowell 5:03  

Move, got to move.

Lesley Logan 5:04  

Got to move. Anyway, anyway, we have to point out what's going on right now.

Brad Crowell 5:09  

Yeah, what I wanted to point out right now is that at the time of this recording, there are around 6000 commercial seafarers remaining stranded aboard hundreds of merchant ships in and around the Strait of Hormuz following the sudden collapse of a U.S.-Iran ceasefire agreement, so shipping through this vital energy corridor has ground to a near standstill due to the drones and missiles and all the signs that are going

Lesley Logan 5:33  

Oh, yeah.

Brad Crowell 5:33  

So hopefully by the time you're hearing this episode, trade is going to flow again, and there are no more trapped sailors. But it's been devastating. You know, they're not military. They're just trying to do their job, and they're stuck on these ships. And they're not getting food. And if they're getting sick, there's no way to get to them to even give them the supplies that they need. It's quite a problem. And sometimes it feels like it's getting solved, and then it all goes to shit again. So hopefully. 

Lesley Logan 5:57  

I know we're over here talking about our gas prices, but there's literal people whose they're not involved with any country or military, and they're just trying to do their job and they're stuck.

Brad Crowell 6:05  

Yep. Yeah. So just raising awareness and a big, big shout out to those who do this kind of work for their job. Thanks for doing all that because you make the world go round.

Lesley Logan 6:14  

Yeah. Well, speaking of the world going round, I started teacher training program.

Brad Crowell 6:20  

Wow. Yeah.

Lesley Logan 6:21  

You know, because we got to keep bringing in new people to the Pilates industry. 

Brad Crowell 6:25  

Yes, we do. 

Lesley Logan 6:25  

Because some of us are going to retire someday. So, if you heard the rumor that I started teacher training program, I did. I'm here to let you know it's true, and it's called upLift. Starting early next year, you'll be able to find an epic teacher trainer near you that will host my program. I'm going to work alongside them, guiding them and coaching them and supporting them so that they can support you on your journey. So if you are a new teacher or partially trained Pilates instructor, if you want to study under what I've created and my material, you want to go to xxll.co/uws. That's upLift waitlist student, xxll.co/uws. If you're already a comprehensively trained teacher and you're looking for more of a master's program and you want to learn directly with me, that is going to be our eLevate program. That's lesleylogan.co/elevate. We are filling 2028 as we speak. 2027 is full, and only eLevate grads can apply to be an educator for upLift. So, just some food for thought on that. We have been home from our summer tour for a little bit, and we are hanging out. We're doing some good stuff. I'm super excited to be home because it's going to get real crazy real quick. But we want to say thank you to Balanced Body because they sponsored our tour. We're able to go to some really great new cities on our summer tour, and our winter tour will announce in less than a month. And you want to be on the wait list for that, opc.me/events, because the winter tour always does sell out really quickly, really quick, really quickly because we get to hit a lot of cities, a lot of little cities where stuff doesn't go to like conventions and things like that. We get to hit some of our favorite cities. Shout out to Hershey because you always sell out in some places like that. So make sure you are over there. Supporting this podcast when you listen and you share with friends and you leave reviews is one of the greatest things you can do. It's totally free, and I really, really appreciate it. But if you want to continue support the podcast in other ways, if you are an OPC member, that's one of my ways you can do that. And then you get Pilates, and you get support, and you get community, and you get my feedback on your form. So you can go to onlinepilatesclasses.com, or you can also check out our amazing flashcards. Our flashcards are different pieces of apparatus. They're for anyone who loves Pilates. They can be used in a variety of different ways, and you can go to opc.me/flashcards for that. By the way, when you buy our flashcards, a part of your purchase goes to Nevada SPCA. And you might be thinking, Lesley, I don't live in Nevada. Yeah, well, guess what? We got some dogs and cats and bunnies and chinchillas here. Sometimes some lizards that need a home, and you are helping do that. In fact, our last quarter donation supported 114 shelter animals' food for one whole week.

Brad Crowell 8:50  

Yeah.

Lesley Logan 8:51  

114.

Brad Crowell 8:52  

Yeah, that's pretty amazing.

Lesley Logan 8:53  

Yeah. So, anyways, you can also get our posters. So there's that opc.me/posters. Okay, this is getting longer and longer every week, Brad. 

Brad Crowell 9:02  

Well, this is just quick. So, our upcoming travel stuff. We've got Cambodia coming up in October. If you want to join us on retreat there, get on the waitlist for next year. Go to crowsnestretretreats.com. Lesley and I are going to be in Sacramento for Balanced Body's 50th anniversary party. They have a POT happening in Sacramento, so you can go to xxll.co/pot for more information on that. Lesley's actually teaching in China. We have no idea how to tell you any more information about that. But that's exciting.

Lesley Logan 9:27  

I don't have any links. But, I'm teaching in China. The second annual Pilates summit outside of Shanghai.

Brad Crowell 9:33  

Yeah, that's in November. Then the beginning of December, you're teaching in India in Goa.

Lesley Logan 9:38  

Yeah, and am I crazy enough to go back and forth? Yes, I fucking am.

Brad Crowell 9:41  

Because you're flying literally to meet me in Denver, and we go on a winter tour. 

Lesley Logan 9:44  

And also, I can't live in any of these places. I have to come home.

Brad Crowell 9:50  

Let's roll straight into the charity of the week. September is Suicide Prevention Awareness Month, and we're very, very excited to talk about AFSP or the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention. It is the nation's leading suicide prevention organization, founded in 1987, and now working through 73 chapters in all 50 states, D.C. and Puerto Rico. The AFSP funds research into what actually prevents suicide, trains clinicians and everyday people to recognize warning signs, supports survivors of loss, and it pushes for policy change, most of it funded not by big checks, but by hundreds of 1000s of small donors, just like you and I, showing up during their Out of the Darkness community walks nationwide. So they do an event, Out of the Darkness community walks, and that's what helps raise money. So it's about as trustworthy of a charity as it gets. They get a four-star exceptional rating from the Charity Navigator. Over 80% of every dollar going straight to their programs, and they have a top-rated distinction from Charity Watch, which is the toughest watchdog in the space. The AFSP also recently announced plans to merge with the Jed Foundation, becoming the country's largest suicide prevention organization, spanning every age group, so any donation is landing at a moment when their reach is about to grow. Suicide has touched your life or someone you love, and statistically, for a lot of our listeners, it has. Yeah, this is a place where showing up really helps. Find more, find out about your local chapter by going to afsp.org, afsp.org, and you can actually, in the United States, there is a suicide crisis lifeline. Instead of 911, it's 988, so you can call or text 988 for free, it's confidential, and it's 24/7. Yeah, so I didn't actually know about 988. I knew that there were prevention phone numbers you could call, but I didn't realize that it was as easy as that.

Lesley Logan 11:39  

It's important because we all have, we all have hard times. Mental health is a is something that should not be a privileged thing that some insurance companies cover. And then if you don't have that, you don't have that. We all are, no one is immune. And we had a dear friend who actually used to work for the Nevada chapter of the AFSP, AFSP, and I got to see the work that she did for two years, and it's really quite incredible what they're doing just to support people. And I can't think of, like, if you're needing community, what you can go be community for people who need it, and you'd be surprised how that can help. But if you need their help, definitely reach out or go to 988 because this is real shit, you know. So, anyways, what else, Brad? Oh, you guys can send in the charities you want us to shout out?

Brad Crowell 12:21  

Yeah, text us 310-905-5534. Yeah, stick around. We're gonna dig into this convo with Dr. Amy Loden. 

Brad Crowell 12:30  

Welcome back. Let's talk about Amy Loden. Dr. Amy Loden, based in St. Louis, Missouri, nearly died from severe preeclampsia with heart failure during a high-risk twin pregnancy, an experience that exposed major gaps in conventional care and reshaped how she practices medicine. She's a physician, entrepreneur, and the founder of Vitality MWC, a practice focused on women's metabolic and hormonal health, guiding patients through postpartum recovery, perimenopause, and long-term hormonal balance. She's a TEDx speaker, and she also is the author of the Postpartum Pivot. I will have the link for her book in the show notes below.

Lesley Logan 13:09  

Important. If you had a baby, you need the book, and it's not, oh, I've had a baby 15 years ago. I think you need the book still. I think it's about all health stuff that happens if you've had babies.

Brad Crowell 13:18  

Yeah, and what a revealing conversation, you know, with her about what it does to what being pregnant and going through that does to the body and how it reveals things. I thought it was really interesting. So yeah. Anyway, what's one of the things you love that she said?

Lesley Logan 13:34  

Oh my God, there's so many good stuff. We talked. I mean, we talked about. You've also.

Brad Crowell 13:37  

Just blended two conversations. So.

Lesley Logan 13:39  

I'm gonna work on not doing that. We're gonna work on. I'm gonna. Well, I mean, you had.

Brad Crowell 13:43  

One yesterday. Forget.

Lesley Logan 13:44  

The one I had yesterday. So we talked about perimenopause, and it's very interesting because I think the way she talked about us in the past, people have treated perimenopause like yes or no. I don't have this thing. I have this thing. No, I don't have that thing. But actually, the symptoms are a sliding scale for every woman, and we all have to figure out where we are on the spectrum, which means we just have to be paying attention to our bodies, which is not easy to you when you're really busy and you've got a lot going on. But so she also said, you know, you are going to have those unpredictable ups and downs. There are going to be some months where your ovaries are working like fire, and you're just like, I'm amazing. There's other months where you just feel like you got run over by a truck. And I think it's really nice to have a doctor who's a female who says that because usually they're, oh, well, you don't have it that bad or we can give you these drugs to cover up those symptoms, but really she's talking about

Brad Crowell 14:28  

Or she said her own experience was, okay, you're within the numbers, see you next time, and that's it.

Lesley Logan 14:34  

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, and also it's like, okay, well, you're within the numbers, but are those the best numbers for you, you know? And so really filling out, you have to figure out where you are. You, my listener, have to figure out where you are, because that will help you advocate for what you need. And it's really important. I'm really grateful for the doctors that I've had because they can. They have said you are within range, but it's not optimal for you. So they were able to give me support so that I could be optimal for me, and I like how she, you know, perimenopause is like reverse adolescence, and it's like this, you know, you're when you're a young girl, you're going through all the puberty, and you have all the hormonal fluctuations, roller coaster rides, and all of a sudden, hopefully, hopefully you have some. I don't know, that wasn't my experience with periods, but like you have this nice, enjoyable couple decades, and then you reverse back. Yeah, it's like a.

Brad Crowell 15:20  

Reverse hormone, reverse puberty, reverse puberty. I was like, the word is there somewhere. Yeah.

Lesley Logan 15:25  

And somebody said, somebody said, who is the asshole who let mothers go through perimenopause when their daughters are going through puberty? And it's like, yeah, but remember, people used to have kids at 16, so that wasn't happening. Actually, but it's here's the thing: if you actually are really into perimenopause and loving women, if you do some historical work on what women's roles were, and I'm not talking about like the assholes or like what the grandma's roles, I'm not talking about that because I'm not a grandma. But the women who get after perimenopause, they became these healers and these doulas for the women who were having the babies and coming up, and they're also the ones that held the history and the stories, and so if we can think of it like that, it kind of makes us feel like we're going into our queendom, you know, like we're going in something cool. So she said, and in case you don't know this, it can run anywhere from 10 to 15 years for you actually go through menopause. And Brad's eyes just lit up, and just and then we've said on the podcast before, but menopause is one day.

Brad Crowell 16:21  

I was gonna say that. Yeah.

Lesley Logan 16:22  

It's one day, and then you're like post-menopause.

Brad Crowell 16:26  

And then.

Lesley Logan 16:27  

You're on the other side.

Brad Crowell 16:28  

You're on the other side.

Lesley Logan 16:28  

Yeah, and then and then if you're lucky, you get two years before you have the shittiest heart like men do. So like it's really fucking awful thing. So ladies, you want to keep your hormones going real well for a long, long time because it doesn't get easier.

Brad Crowell 16:44  

Yeah, she also did mention HRTs. She kind of didn't actually explicitly say that, but she mentioned that all the hormonal research that had been done in the early 2000s, a lot of that has been disproven and also challenged. And there's a lot more information about it now. So, you know, if you have an assumption that you about that that kind of stuff that you've had with you for a long time, I would recommend it's worth revisiting.

Lesley Logan 17:08  

I would agree with her. I know I've had women challenge me on this who've had family members with experience of breast cancer, and I understand their experience. But I am someone who has double the risk, and my breast doctor is not opposed to me being on HRT, and my gynecologist is not opposed to being on HRT. I'm not currently on estrogen either. I'm only on two of them, but they're not even opposed to me doing that because the risks of me having heart problems are greater, and I'm on a serious watch. So she.

Brad Crowell 17:36  

Did also mention that it's not for everybody. It can't be for everyone. 

Lesley Logan 17:39  

No, nothing can be for everybody.

Brad Crowell 17:40  

Right. Right. So it's something for you to have that conversation with your healthcare provider.

Lesley Logan 17:44  

But I will also, before we move on, I want to just want to say, if you are worried about the breast cancer risks, there are ways to get tested multiple times a year. So I'm on an every-six-month test schedule, and so I still have decisions I probably want to think about, but also, I'm pretty sure they're going to catch it early because I'm going every six months. So it is a personal decision you must make, but please don't make it out of fear from people saying shit to you on the internet. Talk with your doctors.

Brad Crowell 18:15  

Yeah, yeah. One thing that I found really interesting about what she was talking about was the way that being pregnant and then going through the process of having a child or giving birth, she said, what it does is it actually unveils what was already there, right? So for her case, giving birth was a stress test on her body, and that it revealed what already was in her body. Yeah, you know, genetically probably.

Lesley Logan 18:40  

Wasn't coming up on any tests because it was probably in range. Yeah, we've had family members with this, and it makes me go and go, "Oh my God, we need to text them right now." Because there's things you can do when you're younger to take care of stuff that's harder to reverse when you're older.

Brad Crowell 18:53  

Yeah, sure. But she said that, you know, giving birth is a stress test of a woman's metabolism and cardiovascular system. She explained that culturally we view pregnancy and complications as something that where the answer is into the pregnancy and then it's gone. It happened during the pregnancy only and then afterwards they're all better.

Lesley Logan 19:13  

Right?

Brad Crowell 19:13  

Everything's good. It's gone.

Lesley Logan 19:14  

But it's not gone. The underlying condition still there.

Brad Crowell 19:17  

Yeah, exactly. She's saying that conditions such as the one she experienced, preeclampsia, it reveals underlying inflammation or insulin resistance that was a previous, you know, something her body was dealing with before. It just all of a sudden was stressed, and that's where something got stuck, right? So she said those conditions are not done after you've given birth. It's just simply something that's been unmasked by the physical toll of pregnancy, and once it's been unmasked, now you can treat it, and it's important to continue to treat it. And I think that's also why Lesley was suggesting at the beginning of the episode that her book is still valuable, even if you've had a child, you know, 15 years ago, because, you know, maybe maybe you did have something that went on. And you haven't looked at it as something that still exists in your body today that you will, you know, hopefully won't have to deal with, but you might have to deal with it as you age.

Lesley Logan 20:08  

Well, you have to listen to the episode because I have to listen to the episode because, my loves, women's heart conditions, the number one symptom for a woman having a heart problem is sudden death.

Brad Crowell 20:20  

Sudden death.

Lesley Logan 20:21  

Sudden death. I like. I think I like peeked the mic when I heard that. 

Brad Crowell 20:26  

Yeah, I heard. I heard you in in my office. What?

Lesley Logan 20:29  

Yeah, yeah. So and I share that with you because unfortunately there still isn't enough information about women's bodies. A lot of information is still based off of men's bodies, and so tests and studies I've done on men only in the last decade-ish have they said you have to study these things on women, right? But we don't really know a lot of information that we should know by now. There should be information on that, and so why I'm like so insistent on you knowing this information is that when you're younger there are things that might look like they're in range, but if stressed, your body can't handle it. Now, stress is not a bad thing because you can also stress a body, and like your body responds the way it's supposed to.

Brad Crowell 21:11  

It gets stronger, and it.

Lesley Logan 21:12  

Gets stronger. Sure, but not every body does that because of genetics, because of too much stress, because of the fuel you're having with the sleep, where you are with your hormones. Did you have those things? And so it's just so important that we advocate for ourselves, my loves. Because, and I know, I know insurance is shit. Still got to do it.

Brad Crowell 21:31  

Yeah, got to do it. Well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into these be it action items we have with Dr. Amy. Finally, let's talk about those. Be it action items, what bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted action items can we take away from your conversation with Dr. Amy Logan? She advises women to specifically pay attention to whether their vasomotor systems, hot flashes, night flashes, night sweats—sorry—are happening most days of the week or more than 10 times a day. If you hit that threshold and you choose not to take hormones, she warns you actually have an increased risk for cardiovascular disease or a stroke. Now, obviously, she's not your doctor, right, or our doctor, and she's not. This is like something for you to be aware of to take back to your doctor. But effectively, that's, you know, when she's talking with her patients. That's her barometer. That's her measuring stick. 

Lesley Logan 22:23  

Can you imagine 10 hot flashes?

Brad Crowell 22:26  

I cannot.

Lesley Logan 22:27  

Because I don't even have them. But I can't even imagine. I saw that woman on Instagram where you could like see the hot flash, the one that went around. She had 10 of those a day. You have to take a shower. I don't even how you. I don't even know how you do it.

Brad Crowell 22:38  

Yeah. So while it's not a blanket prescription, she says, and not every woman in the category can or should take hormones. She said it's important for you to understand that that, you know, if you're hitting a point like that, you definitely want to seek professional help to get a medical assessment so that you can make a really informed decision about your health for your future. She urges this listeners not to base decisions on outdated fears. The hormones that we take today are different and safer than what was in the Women's Health Initiative that came out in the early 2000s. So, what about you?

Lesley Logan 23:11  

She said, "Be true to what your body is telling you." And I think this is really key because I think a lot of times we brush off or push things off or think we ate something bad that one time, or blah blah blah. But really, your body is talking to you, and it doesn't have to. We don't want to wait till it's in crisis, and then we don't want to go, "Oh my god, everything is wrong." We actually, if we were, if we're really paying attention to ourselves, we can start to spot patterns because the doctor cannot be with you every single day, so they are not going to spot the pattern. But you can bring them the pattern, and you are paying attention to yourself. You can do that, and so if you are struggling, you're doing all the things to sleep, and you're not sleeping. That is something you have to tell because your body is telling you, "I don't have the hormones and the things to sleep, which then all of a sudden everything is going to start to shut down in a terrible way when that happens. So make sure you're listening to your body, and you'll become more wise, and you'll even become a better version of yourself. And I thought, what better way to be it till we see it, but to listen to our body? Because it's kind of hard to become the version of yourself you want to be if you're not listening to the version of yourself that you are.

Brad Crowell 24:12  

That's true.

Lesley Logan 24:13  

Anyways, I'm telling you guys, my mind is blown and.

Brad Crowell 24:16  

We already had her back for another episode, so that's going to come out in the near future. Here, what was that topic about?

Lesley Logan 24:22  

It's a nuanced conversation about metabolism, and it's specifically for people who are in more of an insulin resistance. So it's not, it's going to sound like it's a weight loss conversation. We are not advocating that everyone needs to lose weight, but there's. 

Brad Crowell 24:35  

She was talking about how movement is involved.

Lesley Logan 24:37  

Yes, right.

Brad Crowell 24:38  

And then movement. How soon after you've eaten should you be moving, and what kind of movement, and then also how often should you be eating?

Lesley Logan 24:46  

Yes, and all of that depends on your health.

Brad Crowell 24:48  

Yeah.

Lesley Logan 24:48  

Right. And your health is any different. The conversation is not about this weight is the healthy weight. It's not that at all, but that weight is one metric in the biometrics, and so we go into if you have this measurement off, what could also be affecting in the other biometrics, and then how do we address that? Because it's all part of the same wheel, right? When we ended the conversation, it's a very difficult conversation because I don't want anyone to be like, "This is for me," or "This is not for me," or "I don't. I can be healthy in sights, of course, and we have to go off of your blood tests and then your weight and your blood tests, and so it's this really interesting thing, and I really appreciate it because there is information. If you don't have any of these problems, you get to do your thing and have fun until hopefully forever. But if you are struggling with certain biometrics in your blood work and your weight is off, then it's not about losing weight, like every doctor tells you. It's about doing these things that she talks about to help you get your metrics to be where they need to be, and then the weight may or may not change, but the metrics will be better. Anyways, it's so good. I'm so excited about it. It's really great. So stay tuned. But until then, make sure that you send this to a woman in your life who needs to hear it because there's some epic medical information that no one has told me shocked the hell out of me. And then you can also reach out to Dr. Amy Loden if you would like to talk with her. If you live in the United States, so share with her what your takeaways were. All right. Until next time, Be It Till You See It.

Brad Crowell 26:14  

Bye for now.

Lesley Logan 26:15  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 26:58  

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Lesley Logan 27:03  

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Brad Crowell 27:07  

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Lesley Logan 27:14  

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Brad Crowell 27:18  

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Ladies, if you have ever been told your labs look normal while your body says otherwise, this one is for you. Dr. Amy Loden is a physician who nearly died from preeclampsia and now builds her practice around what medicine misses in women. She breaks down why pregnancy complications are a warning sign, what perimenopause is really doing to you, and why heart disease deserves your attention more than you think. You will walk away knowing what to ask for and why it matters.

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In this episode you will learn about:

• How pregnancy complications reveal health risks that were already there.
• Why perimenopause symptoms get dismissed as normal aging.
• The heart disease signs that look nothing like the classic ones.
• Why good quality sleep matters more than hours in bed.
• How to eat and move to protect your metabolic health.

Episode References/Links:

• Vitality Medical and Wellness - https://www.vitalitymwc.org
• Dr. Amy's TEDx talk on pregnancy - https://beitpod.com/amytedx
• Dr. Amy Tiffany on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/dramytiffany
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• The Postpartum Pivot by Dr. Amy Loden - https://vitalitymwc.org/read-the-book
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Dr. Amy Loden Tiffany is a St. Louis-based physician entrepreneur, author, and TEDx speaker dedicated to women’s metabolic, hormonal, and cardiovascular health. After surviving severe preeclampsia and experiencing burnout in traditional, high-volume medicine, she pivoted her career toward a personalized, root-cause approach to patient care. As the founder of Vitality, she guides women through major life transitions—from postpartum to perimenopause—to help them recognize subtle warning signs and prevent long-term illness. Through her clinical work and her book, The Postpartum Pivot, Dr. Loden empowers high-achieving women to listen to their bodies, optimize performance, and take control of their long-term health. 

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Episode Transcript:

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 0:00  

If we're going to call pregnancy a stress test, which is becoming an increasingly common term, is pregnancy a stress test of a woman's metabolism and her cardiovascular system? Then we have to ask, what are we stressing it for? And the way I'm looking at this is a little bit different than how I was trained, which again was if you got the problem, the solution is in the pregnancy. So what if we started looking at pregnancy from the perspective of this is an unveiling, an unveiling of what was already there, and that nothing's actually gone wrong. 

Lesley Logan 0:29  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. 

Lesley Logan 1:11  

Oh my God, Be It babe. Get ready. Get your notepad out. Get ready. If you're driving, listen. You're gonna re-listen. You're gonna share this episode with everybody. I am so freaking stoked about the guest that we have. I fell in love with her with every single answer, and we need women like this in the medical world. So Dr. Amy Loden is our guest today. We're going to talk everything from postpartum to perimenopause and heart health, because ladies, you can't be it till you see it if you get sick, cannot. And I know it's confusing. There's so much information out there in the world, and it's like, who do we trust? What do we do? And I'm just so grateful I found her, and you're gonna love it. So make sure you get ready to hit share on this episode for women in your life and the men who need to know about what women are going through. My mind is blown on the episode. Here's Dr. Amy Loden.

Lesley Logan 1:54  

All right, Be It babe, I'm excited. I'm super stoked. We're gonna talk about all things women, health-related, with an amazing professional person who actually studies this stuff, not what I've read, and then I'm asserting to you because I don't want to be that influencer. I think those people need to take a little step back and let the professionals do it. We have Dr. Amy Loden here on the show, who's going to tell us everything we need to know. But Dr. Amy, we tell everyone who you are and what you rock at, kind of how you got here.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 2:20  

Sure, thanks for inviting me. I'm happy to be here, Dr. Amy Loden. I am in St. Louis, Missouri. I help primarily women over 40, but certainly anyone who's like, "How are my hormones working for my life or not? How is my weight in the mirror matching the weight in my head or not?" And all the things that come with life transitions from postpartum to perimenopause, beyond, my goal is that women who've interacted with our team will have a better care experience because it's the care experience we want each of us to have had ourselves, and because each of us are not only professionals within the medical nursing communities, we're patients too, or daughters and sisters and mothers and neighbors and all the things. We know how much it sucks to be patient, right? And so we've tried to redesign what is the best thing for our ladies. Now, in full transparency, we do have a few dudes, but most of them have had their arms twisted by our rock-star ladies, and they are the ones that are coming because they're forced to. And eventually, they decide they like us, but we're pretty cool too. So that's who we serve, and that's what we do. And happy to go into any detail or rabbit hole you want to chase?

Lesley Logan 3:21  

Oh my God, Amy! I love that. When people ask about the people who listen to this podcast, we have mostly women and a few good men because there are some men out there, including my husband. They want to be interested. They want to. They want their partners, the women, their lives. They want to get what's going on. They don't want them to feel like an alien or like they're alone in this journey. So I think that's really, really cool. I also just want to highlight. I love that you brought up your patients too, because as someone who I feel very lucky to go through my perimenopause journey in today's time when people actually are talking about it, versus even 10 years ago, generations were not talking about this stuff, and I just feel it's really nice because then there's information I would never have known about HRT unless my girlfriend had told me about it. Oh, that could be going on, and then I could talk to someone. Can we go back though? Yeah, I feel like to be a doctor like yourself, who has empathy and understands, like you must have gone through a journey as well. You don't just want to do this 

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 4:13  

Because you wanted to do this. That's true. 

Lesley Logan 4:16  

Maybe there are a few. There might be a few, but typically, like there there has there's a story there that got you to be like I want to care about this. So can you tell us a little bit more about that?

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 4:24  

Absolutely, yeah. So definitely with the traditional college to medical school road, really didn't understand that there's a and I say this with all the love in my heart, but there is a bit of brainwashing to be a good doctor, right? And what is a good doctor was who you've been told it is. It's not necessarily an external criteria. It's who does academic medical center say, and that was very different. I learned through transferring all of my non-medical student fears into the actual application of those fears, and then being a patient and living those fears. That I realized there's a whole lot we're not talking about. There's a whole lot that we're not being told, both as doctors and as women, as patients, and it's hard to realize you don't know what you don't know if you've been told you're the expert and you know everything, right? And most doctors don't go around saying they know everything, but there's enough patients who feel like that's what's communicated, that that's the language I'm using.

Lesley Logan 5:18  

Yeah.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 5:19  

And that's really frustrating as a patient, so I didn't realize how frustrating though it was until I was a patient, and I'm a mom of five kids, my third and fourth are twins, and really I am so grateful to live in the United States in a time in history where complicated pregnancies does not mean that mom dies, because I developed severe preeclampsia with heart failure, and my twins came 31 weeks instead of at least 37, and I nearly died the night they were born. They nearly died the night they were born, and I just am grateful that God let me be in this situation that I had the help I needed. Historically, these are not good situations. We see this on TV and in movies frequently. And something like 70,000 women a year across the globe die of the same disease I had, preeclampsia. So it's not nothing, even in our day and age, in certain countries, and even in countries where you have advanced medical care and they do everything right. It can still happen. So, that for me was the pinnacle of this isn't working. What we're telling people to do isn't working because I had done all the things.

Lesley Logan 6:30  

Right, you were a doctor. You did all the things. I did all the things. You enjoyed all the appointments. You were probably doing, and this is your third and fourth. So you knew what it should feel like. You knew what you should be eating. You knew all the vitamins to take.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 6:41  

Correct, and it didn't work, right? It didn't work, and so I think that is the fundamental kind of if you place a pivot on why did I change how I think about healthcare as a doctor, it was because of my experience as a patient for myself. My husband had cancer twice, so being the advocate for him in those types of things, guiding my children and now my parents through healthcare, you start to carry a lot of stories, and you start to see, wow, they're not doing what I think is just the bare minimum. And if they're not doing that for me or for my family, I know they're not doing it for everybody else.

Lesley Logan 7:11  

Yeah.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 7:12  

And then at the same time, holding a ton of grace in my heart because that's—they're doing what they were taught.

Lesley Logan 7:17  

Right?

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 7:17  

Right. And they can't do differently if they don't know differently. You can't be better if you don't know to be better.

Lesley Logan 7:23  

Yeah.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 7:23  

So that is a really tight tension. But I thought I would just keep plodding through and just be a better doctor in that context of me being a patient until a little—I guess it was two years later. My daughter at that time, my oldest, was seven, and I had about 3000 patients. I was working somewhere between 65 and 80 hours a week, and had four kids at that time. And my daughter came up to me one night, and I'm opening the computer. I'm doing work like I do every night, and she says, "You're gonna make my birthday gifts. Like, can I help?" Right, totally innocent seven-year-old looking forward to her birthday knows that her mom shops online, right? And so she's like, "I want to pick my birthday presents," and I kind of stared at her. I was like, "No, no, I'm going to work. We'll do that later," and go watch whatever show. It's probably Paw Patrol for all I know, right? That's in the background. Go watch it. It's gonna be bedtime soon. And she just stands there, and I haven't even looked at her at this point. My eyes are on my computer. I'm just telling her this as I'm going. I'm totally not in the moment, right?

Lesley Logan 8:19  

Of course, because like you have so many, you have 3000 patients and four kids.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 8:23  

 I can't keep up. I can't keep up. Right? I'm barely getting enough sleep. I'm not exercising, and I'm just trying to survive. And she doesn't move. And so I remember not totally slow motion, but I remember turning to her and feeling like I was going to be like, "What?" Right? What do you need? And she's just got out of the shower, so her hair's wet. She's got her pink pajamas on, bright big blue eyes, and they're full of tears. And there are just silent tears tracking down her face, and I'm horrified. Oh my gosh, what's wrong? Right now, I'm in fix-it mode.

Lesley Logan 8:55  

Yeah.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 8:55  

And she still doesn't really budge, and she just says in a very sad voice, "Mommy. Why do you love your job more than me?"

Lesley Logan 9:05  

Oh.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 9:07  

Yes. So the twins tried to kill me. She did kill me, right? Like, that was a knife in my heart because nothing ever had I wanted to be better than a so-called good doctor than to be a good mom.

Lesley Logan 9:17  

Yeah.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 9:18  

And that was for me the moment that I realized I'm not doing either of these well, and I'm not showing up how I want to be personally or professionally. I'm certainly not taking care of my health. I'm not doing the things I'm telling my patients to do. Like, it was a moment where I really felt the failures. I felt all the feelings, and I told my husband that night, "This is not working anymore." And he actually thought I thought was talking about our marriage, and so he was like, "Oh my gosh, what's wrong with our marriage?" Right? No, but I need to, like, redo. We have to redo this. I either have to retire, or I have to do something different.

Lesley Logan 9:51  

Yeah.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 9:51  

And he was like, "You're not retiring. You will drive me crazy. Go find something different to do, and I will make sure our family is okay." And so I did. And this June will be five years of having Vitality here in St. Louis and serving women and trying to lean into all the pain and the things and the feelings they're dealing with from all the things and the feelings I dealt with having walked that path.

Lesley Logan 10:13  

Yeah. Oh, Dr. Amy, I love that you shared that whole story because I think there's so many women who are listening here and, like, they don't have, they may have one kid or they have no kids, but, like, I think we can all relate to, like, having just too much on the plate because.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 10:27  

Right.

Lesley Logan 10:28  

Hello, my high-achieving woman. I see you, everyone here listening. We call recovering perfectionists and overachievers. There's nothing wrong with being a high achiever, but what happens is we tend to just keep saying yes to things, and we're like, yeah, we can fit that one more thing in, that one more thing. All of a sudden, it just comes to, like, a volcano breaking point. Yes, and because we don't, we don't see the signs early that we are at the breaking point. We don't, you know, we, it's almost, it's actually proven to be not true. But everyone uses the frog in the boiling water, right? Like, we just kind of, like, you don't realize how hot it's getting until it's until your daughter is crying in front of you. Oh, exactly.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 11:05  

Yes, it was awful. I never want to relive that moment.

Lesley Logan 11:08  

Yeah, but also, like, thank goodness for her because that she felt brave enough to say that. Like, what a badass she is. I mean, she's just going to be, like, she's just going to be a girl who speaks her mind. She does.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 11:18  

She's 13 now, and she heard me tell that story once, and now she's like, "Well, you have to credit me for opening your business because I hadn't said what I did." I was like, "Won't you just tone it down a notch, please?"

Lesley Logan 11:27  

It's called balance, babe. It's called balance. Yes. Okay. So, can we, like, let's get to some of the health stuff that I think our listeners want to—I want to definitely get into perimenopause, but I do want to, because we started with a pregnancy, and I have had family members who, you know, have had preeclampsia in their, and it's scary. So, how are pregnancy complications connected to long-term heart risk? I don't think anyone's thought about that. I just thought, like, if it's because I don't have kids, like it's going to screw up your pelvic floor, and you might have to rebuild your abs and these other things. But I didn't know it can affect your heart long term.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 12:01  

I had no idea. I'm so glad you brought that up. So I actually did a TEDx talk on this very topic, where the idea is pregnancy is so much more than just the birth of a kid. That's how we think about pregnancy in our culture. That's even how we think of it medically, right? Like if you have preeclampsia, you have gestational diabetes, you have high blood pressure, whatever in pregnancy, the answer is end the pregnancy, deliver the kid if they're old enough, right? Like, get, move it along and it's gone. But that I strongly believe is not true. We can't test this in a lab, so you have to do a little bit of extrapolation here. But if we're going to call pregnancy a stress test, which is becoming an increasingly common term, is pregnancy a stress test of a woman's metabolism and her cardiovascular system? Then we have to ask, what are we stressing it for? And the way I'm looking at this is a little bit different than how I was trained, which again was, if you got the problem, the solution is in the pregnancy. So, what if we started looking at pregnancy from the perspective of this is an unveiling, an unveiling of what was already there, and that nothing's actually gone wrong. It's scary. It's horrifying. And yes, absolutely, people die. So how can I say nothing's gone wrong? What I mean is nothing has gone wrong in the context of the situation we put your body in. It's exactly responding the way it should for the context it's in. So if I have underlying insulin resistance, and then I put a pregnancy on top of that or perimenopause, and I'm starting to have more insulin resistance. Well, of course I'm going to develop gestational diabetes. If I'm having a lot more fluid retention and I'm putting up a low weight, of course my blood pressure is going to go up, right? If I've got underlying inflammation, of course preeclampsia is going to develop. So I think we need to stop and think about it as it's not done; it is unmasked.

Lesley Logan 13:42  

Got it. 

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 13:42  

And then once you know it's unmasked, you treat it.

Lesley Logan 13:45  

I see. I see. Because again, we think of pregnancy as just the baby, so you have the baby, but it's well, but there's a problem, an underlying problem that the pregnancy revealed is what you're saying. And so great if having the baby is the safest thing for both people, we do that. But also, you still have this underlying issue.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 14:01  

Yes, it's still there. Correct.

Lesley Logan 14:03  

Yes, and I don't think anyone does that. I think they're just, "Okay. Now you don't have gestational diabetes anymore." But I have had clients who had it, and then afterwards, so what do we got? Oh, I'm fine. Are you correct? I don't think so. I'm not a doctor, but they're not fine. Don't just be diabetes. Yeah, for a moment. Yes.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 14:19  

So I actually experienced this as a patient too. I went in after my first pregnancy with gestational diabetes. At the time, I was living in New York City. I walked everywhere. I was a normal weight. I ate pretty clean, and despite being in residency, I'd got decent sleep. I didn't have any other kids. It's my first kid, so I got decent sleep. Right, but I had the baby after having had gestational diabetes. I go see my OB, and she's, "Oh, just follow up with your primary doctor." I go see my primary doctor, and he's, "Your weight's normal, your labs are normal. We're done," and that is how I was trained too. So again, lots of love in my heart. They're not; they're just not told. But for more than 10 years, we've known that women who have these high-risk pregnancies are at high risk not just for diabetes, but heart disease, stroke, kidney failure, dementia. Listen, I can't treat dementia well in the clinic, right? So why wouldn't I want all hands on deck trying to prevent it?

Lesley Logan 15:07  

Yeah.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 15:07  

But that's not how our medical professionals are trained—nurses, advanced practice providers, any of them. And so we're asking people and expecting people to fill in a gap they don't know exists, and so all these reproductive-age women are falling into it. And then where it gets really interesting is some of the same things you have immediately postpartum in all your different types of hormone fluctuations are matched intermittently for 10 to 15 years before menopause when you're in the perimenopausal years.

Lesley Logan 15:32  

What?

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 15:33  

Correct, but that's why these women are feeling, "I'm going to my doctor, I'm putting on weight, I'm doing all the things, it's not working," and they're being gaslit, partly because their doctors don't know what they don't know, and partly because we're not acknowledging this is the same physiologic status of hormones that are different than baseline. So we're not in a country, and we don't have the testing that would promote or facilitate checking what is your normal hormone level at 18, so that we know what 18 should look like, and then by 45, you know, we're not. So we're trying to patchwork together a whole bunch of tests, and different labs have different testing, and different people say different things about testing. It's very confusing.

Lesley Logan 16:10  

Yeah.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 16:11  

And you end up with women suffering. And at the end of the day, that's the problem I'm trying to solve: is how do we stop these women from suffering? Because they are called to live big lives, to be ambitious for a purpose, for a calling. They have a lot to do, and their health is one of their biggest assets. It should not be a liability.

Lesley Logan 16:27  

Yeah.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 16:27  

And that's what's happening, especially for women who are trying to not work just in the home but outside the home. Right? There's a lot they're carrying. Yeah. So that's, I don't remember. Sorry, I'm having a total perimenopause moment. I don't remember where we started with that question here. I'll stop there. 

Lesley Logan 16:42  

Don't worry, babe. I got my focus meds on the ADHD today, so I'm tracking. So we're good. But we were talking about the postpartum, and then we got into those hormones that switch as, and they can repeat into perimenopause. And I think this is fascinating. I love that you brought up. It doesn't matter if you're in the home or out of the home. We have big lives. Correct. We can't have our health be a liability, and I think for a lot of us, it feels like, like my girlfriend's a weight-loss coach for women over 40 who feel like their body gave a middle finger. That's what her coaching is, and it's all about not going to yo-yo diet. That's not going to work. We have to figure out what is the underlying issues, and it can only go so far because you said we don't test our hormones at 18. We don't do that, so we don't know what is normal for us, and I remember I was having a lot of health issues, digestive issues in my 30s, and no doctor could help me. In fact, one doctor sending me to, I was in this weird part where they study HIV and Ebola in the hospital, and she's like, "Do you know why you're here?" I don't know why I'm here. I don't. This scares the hell out of me. This feels like a department I should not be in. I'm not in any pain. I feel like I'm taking someone's spot, and so because he could, he just couldn't figure out what's going on my stomach. So I found someone who did an actual test of everything. He's so range normal. We don't know what normal is for you. We just know what the average person of this population of people that who knows who they were that were tested. So what is normal for you might not be the average. And I was, "Oh well, that's the first time anyone said anything that makes sense. That's the first time." So you can be in range, but for your hormones, but it wasn't in range for you because maybe you were used to higher testosterone, you're used to higher things. And so I love that people like you exist. I'm sorry for the frustration of your own journey, but also without people like you, women like me wouldn't have someone going, "Hey, actually, maybe you should be on testosterone right now," even though the, this is what it is. Mine was actually zero, but people, you know, we can actually get you help because I feel so much better because someone finally was listening to me and thought, "Yes, we're not going to compare you to a random person. We got to compare you to how you're used to feeling."

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 18:42  

Correct. And for most people, that can't happen in the traditional system.

Lesley Logan 18:47  

Yeah.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 18:47  

You can't do that in a 10-minute visit.

Lesley Logan 18:49  

Right.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 18:50  

You can't do it when your doctor has 3000 patients, 10-minute visits, and they really don't actually know who you are.

Lesley Logan 18:55  

Yeah.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 18:56  

You just can't. So we've got a little bit of unrealistic expectations as a society, and then you know any women's magazine or journal article you read says, "Talk to your doctor about this." So then you go in, I'm all prepared. I have my list. I've done it too, folks. Right? This is not a criticism, but they, they can't. They don't have the ability to process it, and the way they're paid is based on the questions they ask you for insurance. So every incentive is misaligned, and at the end of the day, women, people are being screwed.

Lesley Logan 19:22  

Yeah, yeah. No, it's so true. So I'm glad we talked about the postpartum. I want to get into now. We're in the perimenopause, and yep, this is hard because you mentioned the hormone shift of people after postpartum is its own crazy world. I keep checking on my sister-in-law every day. How are you feeling? Are you feeling okay? Right. You feel okay? She's, "I'm fine." Are you fine? Let me just, I just want you to know. It's okay if you feel different, right? I think I'm crazy, but I know that that people don't realize how they're feeling, and it's hard to get to the doctor until it's too late. So I'm just, I'm on her. But for people like me, we didn't have children, so we have never experienced a crazy shift. We just start to experience, "I don't feel like my, anymore," and all the symptoms are so different for every single person. I'm not having hot flashes, but I'm, I got to keep my hair still here. But my inflammation was insane. I was putting on weight and working out and eating the same. And I don't understand what's going on. You know, so can we talk a little bit about what, I don't know where you want to start with that. So you tell me where you want to start with my post, my perimenopausal people who are not necessarily attributing these changes to that.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 20:27  

So I think the biggest confusion I see in the exam room conversations is that there's just question of, am I in perimenopause or not? And it's more of a less of a yes-no and more of, are you on the spectrum, and where on the spectrum are you? And so if you think of it as a sliding scale, because some months those ovaries are working really great, and you feel all the feels, and you're 18 again, but a lot of months maybe you're more like 20 or 25, right? And then maybe out of the blue, I feel like I got run over by shock. Nothing's working for two or three months, and then we're back to 25, right? And so it's ups and downs. You're like, what is happening? It is a roller coaster, and it runs anywhere from 10 to 15 years before you actually go through menopause. So I think of it as reverse adolescence, and I think it's completely ironic that God lets us have teenage girls when moms are going through perimenopause because that is just double-adolescence whammy, right?

Lesley Logan 21:19  

And no wonder, no wonder marriages don't survive certain things. Right, you have a daughter going through puberty and a wife with a pair of menopause. Good luck to the husband. Correct, because

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 21:28  

I want to have sex. I don't want to have sex. I have pimples all over my face. I don't want to go to the house. I do. My belly's bloated. It's not like my mood's up. All the things, and it's all in reverse. So it's a it's a period of a woman's life that I think needs to be acknowledged, and then within the healthcare system, there's more noise about it over the last five years. You're seeing more and more people talk about this, but there's not a lot of standardization, and so you're getting chiropractic, functional medicine, traditional medicine. You're getting all sorts of different recommendations. So my hope is that over the next decade, we start to see some standardization, and we start to say this is what is normal for this population. You still have to apply it to the person. You cannot take population data and apply it to individuals and say that you're going to have good luck, bye. We'll see you in a year. That doesn't work. What I do think is that women need to know what's normal for that time, and then they need to decide, do they want to do something about it beyond what their body is experiencing? And here's some really interesting data that I hope your listeners suddenly stop and listen. If they don't hear anything I've said yet, this will be really important for women who have hot flashes and night sweats. Either one, they're actually the same thing. We call them vasomotor symptoms. When you have those at a certain degree, so that they're happening most days of the week, more than 10 times a day would be an easy target to kind of pay attention to. You have that, and you choose not to take hormones. You actually have an increased risk for cardiovascular disease and stroke. That does not mean every woman in that category can or should take it. There may be reasons they can't, but the hormones we use today are different than what in the Women's Health Initiative that came out in the early 2000s. So you're getting a lot of confusion because women are reading about data from that, not realizing that it has changed, and that study is not going to be redone. It was a huge study. We're not going to see data like that, so we have to make really informed decisions. But cardiovascular disease, hear me, ladies. Cardiovascular disease, which includes stroke and heart failure, kills more women every year than all your cancers combined. Yeah, I get the women and they come in religiously for their mammograms or their Pap tests, right? But they don't know that the bigger risk is that they're going to die of heart disease, cardiovascular stroke, and we know that one in eight women, roughly, have breast cancer risk, and those women get it. One in two women are getting heart disease. So there's one in

Lesley Logan 23:50  

Two.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 23:51  

One in two. So that means there's two of us on this call, right? We already know I'm going to get it because I had preeclampsia. So I'm the one. 

Lesley Logan 23:56  

I was going to say. I hope it's not maybe. I hope it's not you. But, like, thank God you know that because I think it's one and two, especially if you don't know. Because if you know that you're at risk, you do. Then you can you do something. I am. I'm double the risk for breast cancer, so I have to do an MRI and a mammogram every six months, and I have some decisions I might have to make in my life. But because I know.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 24:18  

Right, I can take.

Lesley Logan 24:20  

I can take action. Yeah, correct.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 24:22  

And you know, using that same kind of history, if someone comes in my office and says that I don't want to take hormones because I was a breast cancer, I'm like, that's fine. But let's look at all the facts. Let's lay it out like your financial advisor does, and then you can make an informed decision. Because just acting out of fear or reacting is not wise either.

Lesley Logan 24:38  

I actually really appreciate you mentioning that because it's true. If I'm, I'm very lucky in that I still get to do the HRT that I'm on, even with my risk. But also they're checking me every six months, and I'm checking me. So if anything's going to happen, we're going to catch it so much more quicker. Whereas the hard stuff, there's only so much you can do with that. And so if you're, especially if you're not aware. Say there's all conversations, but I liked the way you laid it out with the wealth manager. I just met with mine. He laid out here's where we're being aggressive. Here's where we're doing this. Here's what's going on here. We're going to move this over here because we're going to risk-manage these risks. And I think that's that's a better way to look at it because we're not going to, every single one of us is unfortunately going to experience something because it's a body. We're not a machine. 

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 25:21  

It wears out.

Lesley Logan 25:22  

I did not know it was one in two, girl.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 25:26  

Yeah, and what's even more disturbing, you may have heard a lot of women have by now that women's heart disease presents differently than men.

Lesley Logan 25:32  

Yeah, can you tell us just in case my people haven't heard because I didn't know it was one in two? So let's go over the signs.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 25:38  

A lot of times people think of what's the so-called traditional? It's the jaw pain, the radiation of pain from your chest up to your jaw, to your back, down your left arm. Very classic symptoms. Classic because it was studied in men, and then we have these so-called atypical for women because they're not typical compared to men, but they're classic for women. And so, got a little bit of lingo here that it doesn't make total sense. But for women, sometimes it's they just feel a lot more anxious than they've been for unclear reasons. They have this sense that something bad is on the horizon. They can't really place why their sleep is different. Maybe they're having some shortness of breath they didn't used to have. Maybe they go up the stairs in their house, with a laundry basket, and they're huffing and puffing when six months ago they weren't. So it can be very subtle differences. It could be a new fatigue. Check labs are normal, but the fatigue's still there. That worries me when I hear women say this. Unfortunately, the number one sign that you have heart disease is sudden death.

Lesley Logan 26:33  

Oh.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 26:34  

So let that sink in for a second. So we can't always wait on what the signs are.

Lesley Logan 26:39  

Yeah, we can't fix that. Right. Correct. Okay, so that's hard because our signs are also. I feel like high-achieving women would so easily brush away that anxiety.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 26:51  

All the stuff. Correct. Because I have a lot of tabs open.

Lesley Logan 26:54  

Yeah, I got this going on, or I haven't been working out, so of course I'm out of breath going up the stairs. They would just so easily.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 26:58  

It's May, it's graduation season. It's wedding season, right? This is just aging, and that's not the story at all. The problem is 10-minute visit with your doctor who has 3000 patients. They don't know who you are. They're not going to notice that this is different for you.

Lesley Logan 27:13  

Yeah.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 27:13  

Decreased exercise tolerance is a big one. And so, if you could walk three miles every day in your neighborhood, now you're like, "Wow, I'm really struggling to get through one." I'm worried about that. I want to know what's going on and why.

Lesley Logan 27:25  

Yeah. So I guess since one getting a 10-minute visit is hard. I, where I live in, I live in Las Vegas. Last I heard, we are short general practitioners by 1400. I don't have one. I go to a women's clinic, and I'm really grateful. It's a, it's also a student-teacher thing. So I actually, they've caught things because the students are asking the questions because they're

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 27:44  

Yes, yes.

Lesley Logan 27:46  

I love them. I'm so grateful for them, but are there things that women can do to check their heart, or is it just being, is it just noticing the one mile versus a three mile? What can we, what are the signs we need to be checking on?

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 27:57  

Certainly be aware of what your body is telling you. Again, if you have to remember nothing else, this is another one: is that your body is smart; it will talk to you, but you have to listen.

Lesley Logan 28:05  

Yeah.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 28:06  

So that's really essential. If something's different, say something. You're right. There's a big collapse, if you will, of how much support we have in healthcare, whether it's nurse practitioners or chiropractor or whatever. And the issue is not all of them are trained the same way. So when I worked in the OB/GYN clinic, it became apparent to both of us, on both sides of it, that OBs know stuff about women's health. I don't know, but I know stuff about metabolic and heart health that the OBs aren't taught, and most women use their OBs as their primary care, at least to a certain age.

Lesley Logan 28:32  

Right.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 28:33  

And again, you don't know what you don't know, so you don't realize what you're not looking for that you should be. And our system's not set up for good collaboration. So if I could tell women, here's a checklist of things I want to make sure you get, your doctor is going to give you some resistance, most likely because they don't realize that lipoprotein with a little a, it's like in parentheses at the end of it, not the big A. Lipoprotein little a. If you have that mutation, and 10 to 20% of our population does, you have a different rate of plaque development, at least risk for that than the average risk will miss. If you have high insulin levels, you have a higher risk that you're going to be on a pathway toward diabetes. Those are not things that are standard checks. So knowing that there's other tests you can ask for, and even if your insurance doesn't cover it, they're not expensive tests. Just get it once, right? Have an idea of what's going on in your body once gives you a ton of information. I offer a lot of our patients to wear different glucose monitors, even if they're not on diabetes. And all my physicians who are listening to this are probably like, "You do what?" But the reason is, if you can figure out that your glucose and insulin are high before you develop diabetes or pre-diabetes, if you figured out that insulin-resistant stage, that's a lot easier to fix, and our doctors aren't even taught about what is insulin resistance, what is the criteria for it, and how do we reverse it?

Lesley Logan 29:47  

Right, because there's some prevention we can do if we have information.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 29:50  

There's a ton, and it's things women can do in their homes or their businesses. It's not stuff I'm doing in the exam room.

Lesley Logan 29:56  

Yeah, and that's also, you know, you're listening to this podcast, you're kind of a go. Anyway, so you're gonna, you'll take the action. Our health insurance is very bizarre. I thought it was crap because, but it has a lot of preventative stuff that goes on with it. Hey, we want to put this thing in your house and check your heart and some other levels every, I don't know, two or three times a week. They keep calling them. I have two adults. We have two ADHD adults in this household. The box is here. One of us will open it when it becomes the pressure. I just have to hang tight. We'll get there. But I'm really impressed by that because we don't have access to a regular doctor. So what information can we gather so we could be watching it and monitoring it? So we can advocate for ourselves if something comes up. So having that prevention is really amazing. Okay, so we talked a little bit about the perimenopause and the different things. What are some simple shifts that women can make now to protect their future? I mean, obviously we have a wide range of women, so the now is different. But what are some things that they could be doing? Because I do think that they are getting information from the magazines and the Instagrams, and we should get it from the person who's experienced it and has seen it. You know, so you.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 31:00  

Some easy things, and I say easy relative because they're easy to do, which means they're easy not to do. So acknowledging that, right? It's real. Number one, understanding that just because you get eight hours of sleep, if they're not high-quality hours, you've got a metabolic risk from your sleep not being normal. That's important to understand because you spend a third of your life asleep, right?

Lesley Logan 31:19  

What's a metabolic risk? Just in case my people. So.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 31:22  

If you don't get good-quality sleep, your cortisol goes up. It's one of your stress hormones, and when cortisol goes up, glucose goes up. When glucose goes up, insulin goes up. Insulin's your fat-storing hormone. So even without your sex hormones being involved, or the ghrelin and leptin you're hearing about with weight and GLPs and all that, just those, you're not getting good sleep. It's going to be a problem. Insulin resistance is going to go up. Insulin resistance means your cells are not listening to the insulin your body is giving it, so your body works harder to get more insulin, and the cells work harder to ignore it, and it just keeps going in a vicious cycle. So if we consider that that's the root cause of a lot of these problems we've been talking about, we fix that. Number one is get good sleep, get good-quality sleep, and it's not, not just enough time in bed.

Lesley Logan 32:02  

Yeah, so.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 32:03  

That's important. Number two is most people don't realize that they're doing it backwards. They're, if they're, if they're even able to get exercise in their life right now, right? So we're going to make the assumption that you figured out some exercise regimen you like. We're, we're at that level, but they're doing it at the wrong time, and they're doing it in a way that they're sabotaging their end result. So rather than going to the gym and then going and eating dinner, or going to the gym first thing in the morning and skipping breakfast and all these things, you need to eat protein and fat, and then you need to move your thighs. I don't care if that's jumping jacks, going for a walk, running up the stairs, something where your thighs are moving regularly for 10 minutes. So make it whatever you like doing. This can be the mom at home who's doing all sorts of fun class activity with her kid, right? Like moving the baby around or the teenager can be equally fun to move around for what it's worth. And then it could be the CEO who's getting ready for a meeting and has 10 minutes after eating whatever lunch she had in the five-minute break she did, right? So looking at what makes sense in your life, but 10 minutes of physical activity, ideally after every meal, that's not realistic, but that's ideal. And then you start with the one meal a day you can do, and you do it most days of the week to start with, because most of us have to figure out how to make it a habit.

Lesley Logan 33:15  

Yeah.

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 33:15  

But movement for 10 minutes after eating, it's, it's crucial. I cannot stress that enough.

Lesley Logan 33:20  

I didn't realize it was. It makes total sense moving your body after eating because I like to go for a walk after I have lunch. Otherwise, I'm tired. Correct. I can't go back to work now. 

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 33:30  

The reason you're tired though is because your glucose goes up and your insulin went up to match it. When you walk right after you eat, glucose still goes up, but it's less, and so you have less insulin spike. Insulin is the bright driver here, and so you've got to do the movement after. And if it helps to understand why, think back to what our ancestors did 1000 years ago. Right? We weren't checking hormones. We weren't checking insulin. We weren't talking about hacks. We were trying to survive most of the time. Yeah. But the things they did is they, if they, what, after they ate, they moved around. Right? Like they were building their shelters. They were taking care of the kids. They were moving in the community, helping build, create, relocate, whatever. They were always moving, and they did not get the whole three square meals a day. That's bogus. You don't need three meals a day, okay? And most of my ladies don't realize that they're eating their nutrients potentially in the wrong order for their body. That they're eating them in the wrong time for the cycle of the month they're in, they're not getting enough protein, not getting enough fat for their hormones and their brain, and it doesn't happen quickly, right? It's months, years, maybe even a couple decades before they're, I don't know what happened, but my body in the mirror is not the body in my head. This is not who I am. There's a disconnect, and they finally are at that place where they have to do something, where the body is forcing them to stop because they've pushed it as hot as you know.

Lesley Logan 34:44  

Oh my God, that's a whole episode. We're having you back. I'm just telling you right now because I want to have a whole episode on the whole. Because what I do know is if you eat certain things, if you work out too late, if you get your cortisol up, sleep that. I have been trying to figure out sleep for over a decade, and I, I get good-quality sleep most of the time. But I'm obsessed with it because I'm like, I don't want Alzheimer's. I do not want heart problems. It doesn't really matter what I'm doing at the gym if I'm not sleeping. None of that matters. Doesn't matter what you're, If you don't get good sleep, all the rest is gonna just fall apart anyways. So it's interesting. It makes sense about the food because I remember when I was having problems with my cycle and I had my one of my doctor friends, she said you should try seed cycling because I just, the worst cramps and, like, the worst everything was just the worst in the world, and so I tried seed cycling and my goodness, you know, I'm not a woo-woo girl, but the seed cycling makes, I got, I had no more zits, my boobs didn't hurt as bad, everything leveled out, and I didn't need any extra hormones for it. I was, whoa, so now there must be more. We need to know about it. So we'll have to have you back for that. I can talk to you forever. So we'll just, this is part one of many. I'm just going to take a brief break and then find out if people can find you, follow you, and work with you. All right, Dr. Amy Loden, where do you hang out? You mentioned St. Louis. Can people work with you if they're not in St. Louis? How does this work?

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 36:03  

Yes, absolutely. Best way to get into contact with our office is just going to our website, www.vitalitymwc.org. They can sign up for a consultation, and we can go through what their options are. There is also lots of opportunity if you don't want to work with us directly, but you want to continue the conversation and hear what we're seeing. I do all the social media I can so that people can hear what's being said in their exam rooms and have it in their real lives too. So you can do that on follow me at Dr. Amy Tiffany, whether it's on Instagram or TikTok or Facebook. You find it where they're also on LinkedIn at Dr. Amy Loden. So lots of places depends on what their needs are. One special offer I do have for your audience: we talked about pregnancy and perimenopausal bit through this conversation, they can contact my office for a free physical copy of my book, The Postpartum Pivot. And before you stop listening, ladies, and you think, "Well, I'm not postpartum." If you've had a baby, you're postpartum even it's 20 years ago. Your body's different than it was before that baby, and so you can understand what does this look like for perimenopause and other types of areas that we go through as we grow less young, but grow more wise.

Lesley Logan 37:03  

Oh my God! Every one of my female females, that's where your Christmas present is. Sorry, just gonna get a doctor because they don't. It's, if their doctor doesn't tell them, they don't know, right? And then they are just going through it. And I feel so bad because every woman in my life is such a badass, and then they get their body doesn't keep up with what they're wanting to do in life, and then it just becomes not just like a liability, but like this hangup. So you are amazing. Okay, you've given us some great stuff already. I mean, we're gonna have to rewind, and I'll listen to this. I've got, you know, getting my notepad out, but our bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us?

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 37:37  

I want each one. When you be it as you see it, I want you to be true to what your body's telling you, and recognize nothing's gone wrong. Listen when things are happening and they seem like it's a crisis. Nothing's gone wrong. Your body's talking to you. Listen, and when you listen, you become more wise. You become a better version of yourself.

Lesley Logan 37:55  

Okay, I really love that. We talked about that earlier, but it's true. Some of us think our body is against us, and it's doing something to us. But really, it's like, hello. The alarm bells. 

Amy Loden Tiffany, MD, MBA 38:05  

It's doing exactly what it should do for the situation we've put it in. That doesn't mean we like it. You get diabetes. No one's like, oh yeah, my body did exactly what it's supposed to do. But if we understand that, then it becomes a neutral thought. It's not bad or wrong. It's I didn't listen, so now I'm going to stop, and the best place to reverse is as soon as you realize you're going in the direction. Right? It's not to keep going in the wrong direction. So nothing has gone wrong. We just need to listen. We need to turn around, create a better story.

Lesley Logan 38:33  

Love it. Love it. This is and then so enlightening. This is so fun. Thank you so much for being you and your and and the journey that you've been on is something we can all benefit from. So thank you for that, you guys. We all need to share this episode with all the women in our lives, and I would love for you to make sure that Dr. Amy knows your favorite takeaways. Send them to the Be It Pod as well. And since I'm going to have her back, not that I even like asked her beforehand, but I'm just going to tell her she's doing that. You can send your questions, and we'll make sure we get that. So, beitpod.com/questions. Until next time, my loves, Be It Till You See It. 

Lesley Logan 39:03  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 39:45  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 39:50  

It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.

Brad Crowell 39:54  

Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan 40:02  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 40:05  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

Lesley Logan celebrates opening applications for her upLift teacher training program, and explains what it takes to trust other educators with a curriculum she built herself. She also admits the new puppy is beating her alarm every single morning, and makes the case that a listener crossing an eye exam off her to-do list counts just as much as a big win.

If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at [email protected] .

And as always, if you’re enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.

In this episode you will learn about:

• A candid rant about Darla the puppy who beats every alarm.
• The teacher training milestone Lesley kept quiet about all year long.
• Why applications open only to graduates of the eLevate program.
• Which upLift or eLevate pathway fits where you are now.
• This week's mantra for gracefully embracing imperfections.

Episode References/Links:

• OPC membership – https://opc.me/40
• Online Pilates Classes – https://onlinepilatesclasses.com
• upLift - xxll.co/uws
• eLevate - https://lesleylogan.co/elevate
• @jennvfitness – https://www.instagram.com/jennvfitness
• Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions

If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at [email protected] mailto:[email protected].

And as always, if you’re enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.

If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSI

DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipment

Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper’s Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipment

Be in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlist

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Be a part of Lesley’s Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/

FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/

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• Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-g
• Lesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/
• Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/
• Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/
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• Profitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/

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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

It's Fuck Yeah Friday. 

Brad Crowell 0:01  

Fuck yeah! 

Lesley Logan 0:02  

Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:48  

Hello, Be It babe. Happy Fuck Yeah Friday! Welcome to our quick-and-dirty episode of the week. We've had a lot of people ask how they can support our podcast, and I just want to say, if you want to support this podcast, please become an OPC member. That is how you can support this podcast. Yeah, because when you're an OPC member, then one, I know that you're actually doing something for you, and you're getting your cup filled, and you're getting a community, and you're getting accountability, and that's how this podcast gets paid for. So, thanks so much. That's how you can do it. So go to opc.me/40 to become an OPC member, or just go to onlinepilatesclasses.com. You don't want to be a member? Get our flashcards, get our posters, tell people about us, watch our videos. Means the world to us, right? If you're like, I don't even do Pilates, I just like this podcast. Hi, welcome. I'm glad you're here. Leave a review, share with a friend. There's lots of things you can do that are free that support small businesses. So thanks for doing all of that, and thanks for even asking. 

Lesley Logan 1:41  

So today's episode is a little rant, my win, a win of yours, a mantra, and we are on our way for the weekend. So at the time that I'm recording this, this is my rant. This rant hopefully is outdated by the time you hear this. I am recording this before I leave for tour, but my rant is that my lovely Darla, my beautiful, cute Darla, my sweet, sweet Darla. Darla's our new dog. In case we didn't announce that here, she wakes me up at night. She does. I thought she'd sleep for the night. She does not, and no, she does not. She actually, she knows my alarm's going to go off in 10 minutes, and then she sets it off before you send in. Like, oh yeah, they have a good internal clock. I was going to tell you right now. I get up at different times. I get to 4:45 some mornings, 5:15 some mornings, 5:30 at the latest. But still, somehow she always beats it. She does, and she is a big girl. So when she gets in the bed, you feel it, and then she takes up all the space. So I'm just gonna say, it's a good thing she's pretty, she's beautiful, she's really sweet. I know this too shall pass, but that perimenopausal ADHD trying to get sleep. Both those two things combined with a puppy. I'm feeling it. I'm feeling it. But my win is something you guys have been hearing about all year, actually. So throughout this year, I've had different wins where I was being kind of secretive about the project I was working on, and recently I got to announce what the project was. I have a teacher training program for new teachers or partially trained teachers, and I'm really, really stoked about the response people have and how people are excited about it and all that stuff. And we're at the date now; it's filling. There's so much to do when you take on a beast of this size; it's just so much to do. But the thing that I'm the most excited, nervous, anxious about is I've opened up the applications for our educators in the next few days. If it's not now, because I know I just I'll have done the coaching, the group call, the Q&A call, and all that stuff, and so we'll open up the applications. And so this only people can apply are people who did eLevate, so that I know who I'm approving to teach. I know how they are. I know their personalities.

Lesley Logan 3:41  

I know all of it. I know the journey. I know how they approach challenging situations. I want to make sure, you know, I you can't control everybody or everything, but I want to make sure that I can confidently say I know the person who is about to teach you. And so this is the next big step in the upLift teacher training coming to fruition, right? I have to have educators first. So my win is we've opened up applications, and so the next step is I just get to start approving people and talking with people. And the next time you hear wins will be about who I've accepted and the training program they're going to be going through because I have to train them on how to deliver the curriculum that I created. But you know, just to be at this stage in the process is awesome. It just feels, okay, it's becoming more and more real. It's not just me because I've never wanted this program to be about just me. It is my thesis. It is my theories. It is my values. But it is bigger than me. You know, it's bigger than the educators who will teach it too. It's just really about the students and the people that they're going to impact, and so I'm super, super excited about it, and just I'm just blessed. 

Lesley Logan 4:47  

So, if you are wanting to have more information about upLift, you are someone who's interested in being a Pilates instructor, or you are partially trained instructor, you can get on the waitlist at xxll.co/uws, it's xxll.co/uws. If you are a comprehensively trained teacher and you want to study with me, then you want eLevate. But if you don't want to wait till 2028 or beyond, you can actually bridge with one of my educators through upLift. So it's my stuff, just with somebody else. So it just depends on your desire. If you want to be an educator of upLift, then you want eLevate. If you just want to go through it because you want a bridge, then you can go through upLift. You don't have to wait. You can go to a local educator near you. Okay, that's great. That's I'm excited. 

Lesley Logan 5:32  

Okay, this is the part where I show you when, I was about to just give you a mantra and go on, but hello, Lesley, get it together. This is from @jennvfitness. I got both a haircut and eye exam done off my to-do list this week. Good for you. I had LASIK 13 years ago, so I'm just so grateful that I'm out of the eye exam stage. I'm sure it's going to come back into my life, but for right now, I'm doing pretty good. But I remember having that on my to-do list and having that and a haircut in the same week. Way to slay. So thank you. See, wins can be as simple as getting your eye exam done. You guys, it don't have to be a huge project, but honestly, wins can be super, super small. Wins can be that you actually just went to bed the time you said you were going to be, and from ADHD, people going to bed the time you said you were going to go to bed was massive win. It's like you should get an award for it.

Lesley Logan 6:17  

So, anyways, I'm so grateful for you. Thank you for listening to the Be It Pod podcast, please leave a review or share your favorite episode with a friend. And here is your mantra: I embrace my imperfections with grace. Well, we should say that a few times. I embrace my imperfections with grace. I embrace my imperfections with grace. That is a lot of rhyming. I'm really grateful that we did that together. And you guys, until next time, Be It Till You See It. 

Lesley Logan 6:45  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 7:28  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 7:33  

It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.

Brad Crowell 7:38  

Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan 7:45  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 7:48  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

Lesley Logan continues her two-part series on slowing down, because the detours and side quests that feel unproductive are often what a goal actually needs. She explains how boredom becomes fertile ground for the idea you have been chasing, and why rushing toward something builds pressure rather than the confidence it takes to get there. She also shares what leaving room in a suitcase before Paris taught her about leaving room in a schedule.

If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at [email protected] mailto:[email protected].

And as always, if you’re enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.

In this episode you will learn about:

• Why side quests often teach the exact skills you need later on.
• The reason boredom is where your creative ideas actually come from.
• What one curious detour in Sedona turned into for Lesley.
• The problem with a schedule packed too tight for surprise.
• The one unproductive hour challenge for you to try this week.

Episode References/Links:

• Ep 682 Intuition Series Part 1 - https://beitpod.com/ep682
• Ep 683 Intuition Series Part 2 - https://beitpod.com/683
• Ep 691 ft Clare Solly - https://beitpod.com/ep691
• Ep 568 ft Anthony Benenati - https://beitpod.com/ep568
• Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros - https://rebeccayarros.com/fourthwing
• The Artist's Way Book by Julia Cameron - https://a.co/d/0iZge5Dz
• Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions

If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSI

DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipment

Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper’s Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipment

Be in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlist

Be It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-survey

Be a part of Lesley’s Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/

FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/

Resources:

• Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-g
• Lesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/
• Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/
• Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/
• Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQ
• Profitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/

Follow Us on Social Media:

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• The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses

Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

When we create space, we create room for confidence. So, if you are on a sprint, you're sprinting. You can only see what's in front of you, but when you slow down, you can actually take in what's in front of you into the sides of you.

Lesley Logan 0:15  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. 

Lesley Logan 0:58  

All right, my Be It babe, my high-achieving women, my recovering perfectionists and overachievers. Hi, how are you? Welcome back to the show. It's episode two in our slowing-down series. If you missed episode one, you should listen to it, or you could just skip ahead and then realize that that's a sign you probably should slow down. I promise they're not long. I promise. So our solo episodes are on topics that you are having questions about. You're sending into the Be It Pod, and you are wondering, needing help on that. We've had some really great guests on the show. We'll continue to have amazing guests, but sometimes we just need a 20-minute-ish chat about a topic, right? Where we can just go, oh yeah, that's that thing, right? Just like a nugget of reminding, and also to know you're not alone because hello, I see you, I see you. As a recovering perfectionist overachiever, I felt like everything, I remember feeling everything I did had to be productive of some kind. So, if I was going to listen to a podcast, it needed to be a business podcast or a self-development podcast of some kind. If I had to read a book, it had to be like that. It had to help me move the needle forward. If I was to go for a walk, I would always listen to something that would move the needle forward for sure. I'm not going to listen to just. I'm not going to just listen to the outside noise. Any space that I had in my life, I go, oh, now I can go work on that project that I've been willing to move the needle forward on. There was not just doing nothing. 

Lesley Logan 2:18  

A lot of dinners that I would do when I lived in L.A. Like they had to always, they were always networking dinners of some kind. When I moved to Vegas, and I took during the pandemic, so obviously in the pandemic, we all lost a lot. But I recognized that when I moved to Las Vegas, I was like, "Wow, if I'm not traveling for work, I don't see any friends. And now that we're months into this pandemic, those same people are not calling. So, did I have friends or just have a network?" Right? I also know that I'm in a decade where I have spent several decades working and working on moving the needle forward. And I don't have kids, but many of you do. And I've had business. I've had worked jobs while also running my own business on the side and trying to date at the time. All those different things. But some of you, you have business and kids and your partner and aging parents. And so honestly, if anyone were to ask you right now, what you want next or what sounds fun to you, if you draw a total blank, you're not alone. Actually, it was in 2020. I was talking with my therapist. I was like, "I don't have a hobby. I don't have anything. I just do for the fuck of it. For fun. I'm just like, what do you want to do?" I was, I don't know. And that's why I went hobby hunting.

Lesley Logan 3:39  

And if you've been with the podcast long enough, you know that I, it took me a long time, but we get so busy, we have no inner voice that we listen to that says anything nice. We're not able to listen to our intuition. Go listen to intuition series if you need that help. We are often just listening to the judgey voice in our head that's like, "You are not doing enough. You should be doing more. How silly of you to think that you should sit there and just watch a show or learn to row, all that stuff." So, I want us to dismantle that trap today. So, I'm happy you're here. Thanks for being here. I want to talk about why being as curious as possible is actually not going to derail your goals. That the side quests that it will take you on are actually often what you need to learn a skill, or to have a moment of freedom in your brain, so that the idea that you've been trying to figure out how am I going to do that comes to you, or so that you have time with friends to just be yourself and have joy, right, and not have something productive happening. So, I remember when I was in college, I saw these shoes we were selling at my store, and they were hand-painted. And my girlfriend and I were like, "We can. I don't want hand-painted ones. I want. I want to decoupage some." So we decoupaged some shoes. And then when we did that, our bosses were like, "You made those?" We're like, "Yeah. Do you want to make more?" And so then we made them to sell them. And by the way, every dime we made, we reinvested back into the business. And we learned the hard way to have a resale license and to have a wholesale license and to sell and to have a business, there's taxes and others, accountant, all this different stuff, but what happened is a side quest back in college with my best friend Clare, who's been on the podcast, us doing that, it really actually showed me all the different parts I would need to have when I start my own business. So even though it wasn't, it didn't make money. It one, gave me a really cool story. I used to make shoes, and by the way, the shoe company that we used to decoupage, they actually ended up knocking us off, and that's what killed our business. But at any rate, totally fine. We needed to get out of it, anyways. But because of that, it wasn't scary for me to start a Pilates business, right? 

Lesley Logan 5:55  

And so, when we think about little detours or side quests or pauses, often they're exactly what we need to gain a skill that will even not in the same thing. I'm not in the shoe business, but it will translate, right? I see this all the time in video games. There's these little side quests, and they often teach you a different way of using your character, and then there's different ways to get different gems or power-ups or things like that, and then you go back to the regular game, and now you have more skills, right? And so, side quests may not feel very productive, or there might not be an ROI that is measurable. But what they often give you is a boost in confidence, some self-trust, some self-knowing. I also just got to spend time with my best friend. When you're in college and you have a job, that's really hard to do. It's really hard to do. So when you go on a detour, you're giving your brain room to breathe, and that's what we need. Because often what happens is we just fill that space with stuff in our phone, schedules, social media. What's going on? What am I missing out on? Oh, I got to check that. Oh, I got to check with that person. And it's just a rush, and our dopamine brain need is being switched to cortisol injections, and they feel the same, but they are not. So even though my story is about making shoes, it was about getting bored.

Lesley Logan 7:18  

I do want to say that we need to talk about getting bored. Most of us listening to this podcast right now, remember a time where, as a kid, we got bored. Like we would say, "I'm bored," right? And let's talk to my yoga teacher, who's been on this podcast, Anthony Benenati. His kids, when they say they're bored, he's like, "Yes, congrats! This is a great place to be. This is where creativity comes from," right. So few kids are truly ever bored long enough to get creative because most of the time, when someone says, "Here's the kid's bored," they give them an iPad or something to do or some food. But boredom is the fertile ground of creativity that you have been looking for. That idea, that frustrating thing. Why can't I make this work? What do I need to do? When I am allowing my brain to just wander and follow? Oh, what if I did that? Wouldn't it be cool? We had episode one. Wouldn't it be cool if I did this? What could be better than this? Right? When you let your brain go on that path, you often come up with some brilliant stuff that you could never do in your stressed-out, rushing state. So, as I mentioned, side quests again, video game tip thing, right? 

Lesley Logan 8:28  

Let's look at that example from when you're my recovering perfectionist overachievers. We need to make our time that we do spend reading that business book or listening to educational podcasts, and what if we just swapped one of those things for something that had nothing to do with that? Brad and I stopped listening to political podcasts in exchange for the Fourth Wing series, right? And now that that series is gone, someone just gave us another book recommendation, and I am so excited to go through that because the reality is having something at the end of the day, one, to look forward to because I'm, I can't wait to get lost in that book, and two, that has nothing to do with anything that matters allows us to just put our brain into a place that can actually get some good sleep, right? So look, you don't have to be, a book, doesn't have to be a podcast. Maybe it is a hobby. Maybe you, my girlfriend, she is going into bedazzle mode, right? She is, I'm bedazzling this, I'm bedazzling that because it's fun. It has zero to do with what her job is, zero to do what her house needs, and it allows her to just have something that lets her brain just take a moment, be on a side quest, right? And you'd be surprised how that downregulates the nervous system in a way that takes your stress levels down. I mean, many of us need to be literally thinking about our stress levels, not just for perimenopause, but for our heart, right? For our sleep. If you are not getting good sleep, oh my God, you need a side quest. You need a side quest. Right? 

Lesley Logan 10:00  

I've talked a lot about curiosity. I talk a lot about this when it comes to teaching Pilates, but I really want to suggest that you take a kid-like approach to things. Get curious. Put question marks on things. Right? Too often we're like, I need a five-year plan on this thing that I'm doing. You just need to go, what happens if I do this? Right. We have, ladies, we've spent so much time taking care of so many people. We've often forgotten how to be curious, how to kind of flirt with our future selves. I wonder what I would look like in that style of jean that's out. Instead of going, oh, it'll never look good on me. Like I really thought I'm, I hate that the low-rise is back, but then I kept getting ads for these low-rise wide-leg pants, and I was, I don't know. So then after 72 ads, I was fuck it. I'm just gonna buy it. And honestly, with the long oversized shirts, the outfit looks so chic. It looks so good. It looks. It's also so comfortable, and that takes. But that takes curiosity. I wonder what I would look like in that. I wonder where I would wear that to. I wonder what would happen if I put these shoes on instead of these shoes.

Lesley Logan 11:06  

We get so used to being in our this is my usual, this is how I do things that we forget that there's this fun thing about being curious and trying things out, and often leads to other ideas and other adventures and other opportunities. When we're on tour, there's often some days we have time, and Brad and I will just pull off to a vintage shop and just walk inside, cause it's fun. We don't even buy anything; it's just fun to go in. Actually, curiosity led my girlfriend and I, we're in Sedona, there's this one more place I want us to go to, and it led us into a sound bath store, sound bowl store, right? And then we were, oh, okay. How much are these things? $15,000. Whoa, didn't expect that. But we ended up going to a sound bath. We got to enjoy a sound bath with bowls that collectively cost $105,000. I'm gonna tell you right now, I felt every dollar of that sound bath in my body, all because we're curious about what's in this store over here. I actually was we're looking for a different store completely. There is magic in detours, and some of your best ideas are gonna be in spaces you didn't plan for. And I'm telling you, that is so fricking true. Some of my best ideas have come from just thinking. Well, what if I did that? How would that fit the plan? I wonder. And then just following it in my brain, right? But that requires having pause time because I cannot let my brain follow a thought or a nugget if I'm rushed up against a deadline. Right? It's not going to work. So now that we know, I hope I sold you on curiosity. 

Lesley Logan 12:44  

When we create space, we create room for confidence. So if you are on a sprint, you're sprinting. You can only see what's in front of you, but when you slow down, you can actually take in what's in front of you into the sides of you. Right? When you go for just a stroll, and so I'm often rushing to get to the gym. And the other day I decided to walk alongside my dad, and I was like, "Has that bar always gone in a full U? I thought it went up against the wall." And my dad looked at him. He was like, "Huh," right? We were just like, "Oh my god, there is space to be curious and see something different because we're not rushing. So the same goes for if you are wanting to take action towards what the the be it till you see it that you're working towards. If you are rushing towards that, you are only able to see what's in front of you. And one, by the way, that doesn't actually create confidence; it creates stress and pressure. But if you actually take a stroll, it allows you to take in all of your surroundings, and you actually have a sense of calmness around you. Think about when we feel safe in a space; it's because we can we know everything that's in it. We can see everything that's going on. We can take it all in, right? You will have more confidence because you know what is what's going on? What's over there? Can make better decisions. So being it until you see it, that next version of yourself, it requires space for magic and coincidence and possibility to enter. You cannot manifest a new reality if you are scheduled is packed tighter than my suitcase in for a month in Europe. Right? There is no room for surprise. You won't even look for surprise. So when we were traveling to Europe, I'll just bring my suitcase back into this. We were traveling to Europe. We were so excited because we had a bunch of flashcards we were getting rid of, and so we were gonna have space to get something fabulous from a vintage shop in Europe. And because we had the space, we went out seeking. We went to 20 vintage shops in Paris in one day. It was so much fun. I got the coolest jacket, and I was, oh my god! But I was really hoping for the purse, you know.

Lesley Logan 14:48  

But Brad found these great shoes, and we could, if we had packed everything so tight that there could be nothing new added to it. We would not have explored as much of Paris as we did. There would be no room for curiosity because there'd be no room for if we found anything. That goes for your life too. If you pack your schedule so tight, you don't even want a detour, even if it would take you exactly where you're wanting to go, because you don't have room to get lost. You can't trust that getting lost could take you exactly to the right place, right?

Lesley Logan 15:20  

So, what does this mean for you? What do we need to do next? Now that we've sold you on curiosity, we sold you on creating space, so you have confidence and room to be it till you see it. What do you need to do? What we need to do is play more, have more unproductive time, have time to be curious. Maybe you take walks without your podcast on, or before you turn your podcast on, maybe you look for, we had a guest who said, "Look for three miracles," right? Maybe you don't just go to a coffee shop to work, but you just go to a coffee shop to sit and read a book that has zero impact on your life, right? Maybe you do paint. Maybe you'll learn a skill that you has nothing to do with the career that you're on, but it's just fun. If that feels overwhelming, then I just want you to have one unproductive hour this week, just one. No cleaning, no working, no social media, so no phone. If you've ever read The Artist's Way, you go on an artist date, so you go do something that you have always thought about doing. Maybe there's a bookstore in town you've always wanted to go to, or a coffee shop you've wanted to explore, or someone recommended a salad or a sandwich at this new place that opened up. But you don't, you go and you don't get on your phone when you're there. You just go and you eat. You take yourself on a date, and you see what bubbles up when there's no pressure. I can't wait to hear about it. So please tell us what happened on your magical unproductive hour date by sending it to thebeitpod.com/questions. Maybe that's your win that you're sending in. Like, hey, I had an unproductive hour this week. I did it. I did my. I took myself on an unproductive date. I want to celebrate that with you. And if you know a friend, this could be helpful to please send it to them. Honestly, you sharing this podcast is one of the best things you could ever, ever, ever do. The next best thing would be a member of OPC, and that'd be something that supports you as well. All right, my loves. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. 

Lesley Logan 17:21  

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Brad Crowell 18:03  

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Lesley Logan 18:08  

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Brad Crowell 18:13  

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Lesley Logan 18:20  

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Brad Crowell 18:23  

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Lesley Logan opens a two-part series on slowing down, because rushing may feel productive but it rarely gets you where you actually want to go. She explains how constant rushing flips the nervous system into a survival response, and what it really cost her to pause OPC's growth for two years because Profitable Pilates' growth needed her more.

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• Why rushing makes you say yes to things you would have declined.
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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

Rest is never supposed to be a reward. I see way too many women using rest or a day off or a spa day as a reward for hard work. Nope, you actually are always worthy of rest, always, all the time, no matter what.

Lesley Logan 0:12  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. 

Lesley Logan 0:54  

Hello, Be It babe. How are you? Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It podcast. Of course, now I have vocal fry. I was talking just fine a moment ago, but here we are, and that's because we are not perfect around here. Welcome if it's your first time listening to us. Thank you for being here. This week we're going to talk about slowing down and actually how that can speed things up. And I'm just really excited for us to dive into this topic. We are doing these topics because you asked for them. So beitpod.com/questions is where you send your wins in for us to chat about and celebrate you on Fridays, but your topics, your guest requests, things like that those are all things that I look at and determine for who we invite on the pod and what these little series are for. And I love hearing how they help you. I also just want to say I really appreciate when you share our podcast. It means the world to me. It really, really does. Brightens my day every time I hear about it. So just know that I appreciate even just texting this to a friend who needs to hear it. You know, we can't Be It Till We See It alone. This is not how it works. So we have two episodes on this topic about slowing down, and the overall message, the too-long-didn't-listen, is that how it actually speeds things up. And I am someone who wants to move a mile a minute, so this is definitely a Be It Till You See It. For me, it's something I'm constantly practicing. I'm constantly having to be reminded. I'm recording this in June. You're hearing it in August, and I was telling the team an hour ago we have to get moving on that because the launch date for that is October 1st. Lesley, it is the end of June. There is plenty of time. Is there though? But really, really. So if you have ever spent an entire day going from one task to the other? Just you feel like a hummingbird, but then you get to 5 p.m. and you look at your to-do list and you actually did everything but what you wanted to do. Yeah, you don't only end the day exhausted, end the day stressed out because you did all this stuff, but you didn't move the needle forward. And this is something that I see happen when I coach a lot of Pilates studios because people love to make a list. My Pilates studio owners love to make a list. I see this a lot when I coach Pilates studio owners and teachers. They make a long list of things that they want to get done that they need to do, and then they do none of that, right? And then they be like, "I did all these things," or they make a laundry list of things and they do all of them, but they actually didn't move the needle forward because none of those things actually move the needle forward. That was just what Brad calls the whirlwind, just doing the whirlwind, right? And there is a massive difference between getting stuff done, movement of things, and momentum of things. If you ever watch my cousin Benny, there is this scene in this episode where they get stuck in the mud and they're spinning the wheels, right? And so there is movement happening, but they're not getting enough momentum.

Lesley Logan 3:22  

They're not going anywhere, right? They're stuck in the mud, and so, hi, I see you, and we're just gonna acknowledge that all of us do that, and if we get honest with ourselves, we're gonna break down while just doing movement, just rushing around, checking things off is actually negatively affecting the growth we want to have, and how taking some breaks, some pauses, slowing down shifts us into a gear that can actually create true progress. Right? I remember years and years ago I was with this girl, and she had this whole speech that there's power in the pause. There is power in the pause. Right? Sometimes, just taking a break and getting a 30,000-foot view is what exactly you need. Otherwise, you're just on the hamster wheel. Maybe there's another wheel to get on, right? So I do understand. I want to just say I do understand this idea that if I slow down, I fall behind because I was a runner. So just so you know, professional runner for a long time, and if you do slow down, people do pass you up, right? But that's not how life is. Life is not an actual race because you are your own path. You're doing your own thing, right? And so, I do think at some point in your life there is time to rush and hustle and get as much information as you can. And then there is a time in our life where we really do need to honor the information. Take time to get that, you know. Especially as I am someone over 40, I've really discovered that if I just take a few pauses, if I don't rush from one task to the next, if I, as I said in another series, go for a walk around the block, I actually get some really great ideas. I get to listen to my intuition. I get to hear my inner voice, and it's really helpful. But I also the complete opposite of that is that in my brain, I am 43 years old, and I do want to be retired soon. And I feel like every day is a countdown to that, which is seriously crazy because there, if I were to take how many days between now and when I want to retire, there's probably thousands. So in reality, I could slow down, but I do understand that feeling of that clock ticking, and I think together, Be It babes, we need to reframe that. We need to reframe that pauses as strategic decision-making time and not a weakness, not a laziness, not a procrastination, because there is a difference between a pause and a procrastination, right? So I will say I definitely had to get hit over the head a few times with this idea. Really had to get hit over the head a few times with this idea. It's a lesson that's just taken me a little longer than I like to admit about slowing down. 

Lesley Logan 5:55  

Okay, so I don't know if a lot of you know this, but I started Agency, Profitable Pilates, membership program at the same time that I kind of started OPC, and you know, I thought they're two different things. I could do this. I have the time, and the reality is, is marketing the two, sure, but actually sustainably operating both was not happening, and I was rushing to do it because I thought, "Oh my god, if I don't get this done, some other person's going to take my idea, and I need to get this going." And I also had, I will say, I was loving traveling a lot and really wanting to get rid of some of my clients, so I needed both to take off so that I could let go of some of my regular teaching, so I can enjoy traveling and just run these two businesses. I thought it's just going to happen in three weeks, and it didn't. Of course, it didn't happen. And in fact, it took a little bit longer. And there came to a point where I actually had to pause OPC's growth because Profitable Pilates' growth needed me more.

Lesley Logan 6:54  

It was taking off, and if I kept trying to split my time evenly, I would have actually caused Profitable Pilates to not grow and to in fact not help the people and not have the impact I wanted to make. And so I had to hit pause on something, and it was really hard. I had to choose between two babies, one of which I love gets really hard. I actually love them both so much, and one of them is more scalable than the other, and one of them can impact more people than the other in different ways, and but I had to do it, and it was so hard because I will say, OPC, those two years of purposely slowing down its growth still is something we are dealing with today. You know, I'm really proud of what we do. We have a great membership. We have a great community, but there was information I didn't get in those two years because I had to slow it down. So I share that with you because I actually don't want you rushing around to feel like you're accomplishing something, only to end up missing out on the information you could be gathering, so you could make better decisions for where you're going to grow, right? For all you're going to do. So that is why you know we have to actually understand when we go into that rush mode that feels like it's productive. We are not operating from a place of not just authenticity but control, right? And so it does feel like everything matters so much because we actually are grasping for control. But when you are actually in charge of how fast you go and the pauses you're going to take and the scenic route you're going to look at or the thing you're going to take a deeper look at, you are in the more control that way. So it's important. So as we talked about in past solo episodes, your nervous system is very much part of this, and if you are constantly rushing, it's not just a time-management issue. It can actually be a survival response, and that survival response actually puts us in that lizard brain where we actually don't see a lot of stuff as being helping hand, right? So our nervous system, when you're constantly rushing, your brain activates a low-grade survival response. Adrenaline makes you hyper-focus on immediate micro-tasks. You check your email, you cross off trivial to-do items while taking you away from seeing the big picture. You cannot see it when you're in this space, right? 

Lesley Logan 8:59  

Another example of being in survival mode is so. I'm sure you don't know this, but I'll tell you. If your head becomes more forward of your spine, right, like you start to be one of those people whose heads are forward, you see those people at their parts. You start to see people coming at you as an attack and not a helping hand. So if you are in this rushing mode, if you're in the survival response in your nervous system, you are actually not seeing people going, "Hey, I'd love to do this with you," or "Let's collaborate with this" as help. You could not receive it like that. You actually see it as someone trying to get something from you, someone trying to slow you down, someone trying to take your thing, and so you actually perceive some helping hands as something that's going to be a negative or an attack on you, right? And so when we go through that, it just actually means we probably definitely not going to go as fast as we want because it's hard to go anywhere fast alone, right? Well, they say if you want to go fast, you go alone. If you want to go far, you go together. But the reality is, is like I actually do think that you can go far and fast with help of others. My Pilates loves, when you rush a movement. You actually never fully get everything out of a movement, right? In order to rush it, something has to let go. So either letting go the connections of muscles, or you're not fully extending your legs and footwork and fully closing the springs. You're kind of just operating in the middle, and that is movement.

Lesley Logan 10:43  

And so it's like I'm doing something. There might even be a burn, but you're actually not actually getting the full openness of the hips, the full reach through the feet, the full expression of the exercise. Where the benefits are actually, Jay would always say the Pilates happens the last two inches, right? So you got to finish. You got to close. You have to do a full expression. So it's important that we're not just going so fast and using momentum because while it does feel like we are doing something, we are actually not getting the benefits of the something that we are doing. So if you are my constant doer, mover, working all the time, you're likely unable to have clarity in what it is you're doing because you can't find clarity in rush, right? When you are speeding down the freeway, do you see all the signs? No, they're blur. I remember we were doing something, and Brad was going faster than we should, and he missed the exit, and it cost us so many minutes because we missed the exit. If we had just been going at the speed that we were supposed to be going, we wouldn't have, right, and so when you're rushing, you cannot have clarity. You cannot catch the subtle things that are going, "Hey, look it over here," or "What's going on here," or "Maybe this is a turning you have to have." So that mental noise just becomes this level 10, and that intuition, which we talked about in the past solo episodes, the reason why we have a hard time hearing our intuition is we're just moving too fast to even hear it, right? Because it's often like a whisper. It's often there, "Hey, hi." Your intuition's not yelling at you, right? Your intuition's when you're ready. I'm just right here to let you know that that's the right turn I want you to take. And you know, the other thing is, is if you're ending each day exhausted, if you are my listeners who are in my age group or older, ending your day exhausted does not make it easier for you to do the other things you want to do. Doesn't make it easier for you to show up for yourself for your movement practices. It doesn't make it easier for you to sleep well at night. You're causing so much stress and cortisol. It affects how you sleep. It affects how your body is shaped, right? What's going on with how you digest food? All of that. All because we're just rushing, rushing, rushing. So we actually say yes to things that, if we had just taken time to really fully think about, we would have said no to. I find there's two parts because of the ADHD that I have. My brain goes three steps ahead, so it's always a little faster, and I cut people off and I make assumptions. And it's not because I'm a rude asshole; just because my brain's like, "I'm three steps ahead. I know what you're going to say." In other times, my ADHD works in this amazing place where I can just get into focus mode, and I can do a lot in a little bit of time. And the problem with focus modes and ADHD is you never get to plan when they're going to happen. But what I have found is, if I am taking time to pause for the day to make sure I'm aware of what I'm supposed to be working on, I'm aware of where we're trying to go and grow. It allows me to enjoy those focus modes when they happen, and to at least have awareness when I'm actually in a rush state. Oh, I'm trying to rush this right now. I'm trying to push this through. It never feels good, right? It feels like it's harder work to do. Yeah. So what we need, right? Because now that I we're all in the band, I agree. We go okay, so I just need to hit pause. Yeah, but it's first you have to have the courage to hit pause. So first, just having, I think I need to hit pause is a great place to be, right? Because that's your first breakthrough to many breakthroughs.

Lesley Logan 13:56  

How many times have you had the most amazing ideas when you're in the shower, or you're on a walk, or you're checking out the moon or a sunrise, and all of a sudden you have this thing that hits you, right? Those are pauses, and notice they're not very long. We don't have to pause for five hours. Doesn't have to be a full day off. It could just be a pause. It could just literally the length of a breath, right? Or it could be five minutes, or it can be in between Zoom calls. You always plan for 10 minutes to go from one call to the next to make sure you've wrapped up your thoughts on the last call. Like self-reflection is one of the best ways to retain information from the things that you did. All that brain fog that people talk about, I think a lot of it is actually just rushing so much. I think I do believe that there is brain fog, but I think a lot of it is like we're not giving ourselves enough time between calls to reflect on what would just happen, what we have to do, and where we're going, so that then the next call starts, we could actually be present enough to take it in, right? So rest is also never supposed to be a reward. I see way too many women using rest or a day off or a spa as reward for hard work. Nope. You actually are always worthy of rest, always, all the time, no matter what, because rest is not. "Oh, I'm going to go and hit this rest stop over here on a long drive." Yes, you're new to those things. It's these little moments that happen throughout the day that allow you to feel like you, to feel like you are in charge. If you haven't read The Big Leap, I talk about all the time, but there's a whole chapter on time. There's Einstein time and there's Newtonian time. And if you listen to episode 400, I actually asked Gay Hendricks about this time chapter. And the reality is, is when we are in our genius zone, we are in our flow state. We can bend time, really, truly can. But a lot of us are rushing around and putting ourselves in Newtonian time, and that is not. You actually end up watching the time go by faster. Ever realized like minutes are long when you're holding a plank, but they're fast when you're just sitting on a phone call with your friends. Yeah, right. Because you don't want to be in the plank, but you do want to be on the phone call with your friends. Same thing. You can actually make time be in your control, but you have to hit pause, right? So, what I'd love for you to do over the next couple days before our second episode comes out, which is hopefully some wonderful ways to help you hit pause. I just want you to notice where you can put five-minute buffer gaps. Can you change any of the calls or meetings you have to have an extra five minutes in between? Can you text people? "I need like, hey, we know we have a call tomorrow at 10. I'll be there at 10:05." And in those five minutes, you are not allowed to pick up your phone or check your emails or anything. You get to go to the bathroom if you need a bio break. But I would also love for you just to take a look outside. Maybe go outside. Maybe smell a plant in your house, something that is not on a screen, and notice what feels good and how you feel before you go into your next call. That's your homework. Five-minute gap buffers, as many of them as you can between all of your meetings, and see what you love to do in those five minutes, not where it feels like, "Oh my god, this is the longest five minutes. I have to sit here and look at this wall." No, not that. Something that allows you to just, you almost look forward to it, right? You almost are like, "My god, I can't wait for this call to be over because I get my buffer." Like that's what I want. 

Lesley Logan 17:00  

All right, Be It babe, let me know questions you have. I would love to hear your rushing stories and what maybe you realized in self-reflecting that you missed out on. Here's the thing: the times in my life where I've rushed and missed out on some great opportunities because I just didn't hit pause long enough to think about it. Those things were not for me, right? What is for you will not pass you. But in reflecting on what I could have done differently, it meant that I didn't miss future opportunities, and I get to take advantage of them and use them in the best way. All right, thank you so much for listening to our podcast. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. 

Lesley Logan 17:49  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 18:32  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 18:37  

It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.

Brad Crowell 18:41  

Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan 18:48  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 18:52  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

Lesley Logan records from the road in the final days of her tenth tour, keeping her Friday check in honest about the hard parts before the good ones. She names the boundary problem that highly communicative people run into most, then celebrates a milestone that took several years of quiet groundwork to reach.

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In this episode you will learn about:

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• The internal argument a perfectionist has under deadline pressure.
• How eLevate teacher training paves the way for the right people.
• How Heidi made time for her live mat class despite everything.
• Recognizing that smallest wins actually count the most.

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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

It's Fuck Yeah Friday. 

Brad Crowell 0:01  

Fuck yeah! 

Lesley Logan 0:02  

Get ready for some wins. 

Lesley Logan 0:05  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. 

Lesley Logan 0:48  

Hello, Be It babe. How are you? Happy Fuck Yeah Friday. Here we are. I am two days from being home, so I have another stop, and then a day off, and then our last stop on the tour. So I am coming at you. Well, I've recorded this early, but somewhere I am in the Arizona area, I feel like, and so we're wrapping up our 10th tour. Oh my God, it's insane! So I'm just so excited to be in your ears today. What was your win? That is what this episode is all about. Also, being real, getting to have a moment and sharing a win. So I hope you enjoy these quick-and-dirty episodes. I hope it helps you kind of be with what's going on because I don't always share on socials, and also I feel like it's weird when people share on socials and expect everyone to have seen it. That doesn't make any sense. It's not all about me. And the reality is, I said this on the Plymouth Perspectives podcast. I'm such a reluctant social media user. Truly, it's part of the thing you have to do to do the thing you want to do in this world, right? Okay. If you are wanting longer episodes, if you're new here, you want to check out our Tuesday and Thursday episodes. Sometimes we do an interview and a recap, and sometimes it's this new thing we're doing this last year, which is solo episodes of me just talking about a topic that you sent in. So send in your wins and your topic requests or guest requests to beitpod.com/questions. Thank you for the requests you've sent in. I will say, I too would love to interview Michelle Obama. That is probably not going to happen until we are a top 0.01% podcast. So keep them coming, keep them coming. I appreciate that you think that I'm that great, though. So if you're in some of my memberships, we have a channel where you get to have a moment, you get to have a little bitch session, and then you have to share a win. So I feel this is a great place where I can actually tell you life is not all rainbows and butterflies, and also have a win, and then share your wins. 

Lesley Logan 2:31  

So my need-a-moment is people who make their emergencies yours. Oh my freaking goodness! I am a very organized-ish person, meaning that I have a whole team that makes sure I get everything done when it's supposed to be done, and they ask me to do it ahead of time so I can procrastinate and all the good things. But recently, I had a lot of different people send emails asking for this thing and this thing from me, and they need this description, need this bio, they need these pictures, and blah blah blah. And first of all, we probably sent it in. Second of all, I appreciate that you need those things. I'm happy to give them to you, but "I need this as soon as possible." Hold on, it's a Friday, you know? Don't you think I'm also catching up on my week? So just people who make their emergencies your emergencies, and I do the best I can.

Lesley Logan 3:16  

And I also am a highly communicative person, so I find myself feeling really terrible because then I'm, "Hey, I can get this to you on Monday." And, oh my god, what if they need it sooner? Well, then they should have asked sooner. But I have this whole argument. I have this AuDHD. The ADHD has that rejection sensitivity disorder. I'm like, "I need to do it now because they'll never ask me again," right? Which is not true. And then the autistic part: they should have asked earlier. I don't have the time. The conversation I have in my brain when people try to make their emergencies mine, because recovering perfectionist overachiever wants to just get it done when you ask for it, and that's just not how life works. Because then I'll get nothing done.

Lesley Logan 3:54  

So anyways, that's my moment. But here's my win. So last month, we opened up the doors for round eight of my eLevate program, which is my teacher-training program, which is also the only place where people can become a teacher for UpLift, my new program. It is for comprehensively trained teachers who want to get to know the method, they like the way I teach, they want to study with me. It's a small group of people, right? It's a growing group of alumni, but it's a small group of people when you're in it. And so we opened up the doors in July, and I was just like, "Oh my gosh! I can't believe we're talking 2028. I have dates for 2028." That just overwhelms me. But we had so many people want the spots, and they're so excited. And actually, while they wish they could be in 2027, they're excited about having the time to prepare, prepare their schedule, prepare their budget, all that stuff. And I'm just so pleased because of what eLevate attracts and the women and a few good men that I get to spend time with. I'm just truly grateful. And so I guess the win is just the culmination of the last several years of this program really paving the way for the right people to find it. And round seven literally is wrapping up in the next few weeks, which means that they're going to be in the alumni group by the end of September, and I'm just so stoked for them because they're just epic humans already, and I've just watched them grow and elevate so much. So this feels like a big win instead of having a small win. I mean, I've been on tour. There's probably a lot of small wins, but I haven't recorded them for you yet. So I'm going with a big win this week. Your wins can be quite small. In fact, most wins are. Sometimes, "I got a full night's sleep last night." Right? That's sometimes what the win is. 

Lesley Logan 5:29  

So, in fact, here is a great example of a win that I want you to send in. This is from @heidi.elle.18. Heidi's an OPC member, but she sent this in. She wrote, "Getting in our 45-minute live mat class yesterday." So this is a woman who's got kids, she's got a job, she's on summer break, and she made time for the live OPC class that happened. So I'm so grateful, Heidi, that you showed up. I'm grateful that you recognize it is a win. It is not easy to make time not only for the 45-minute class, but also for the hang time afterwards, and I'm just so grateful. I love seeing your smiling face on that, and also thank you for sending it in so we can inspire people that getting your workout in that you had planned is a win. If you did the thing that you said you wanted to do, that's a massive win. In fact, that's where confidence comes from: doing the thing you said you'd do. So make the things you want to do something you can actually do, right? Don't put so much pressure on yourself. And I recognize that my need-a-moment is the whole debate in my head of not putting pressure on myself. But see? You know what? I'm working on it too, and so can you.

Lesley Logan 6:27  

All right, your mantra before you take on the weekend is, "I am a beacon of self-love." Oh, I'm a beacon of self-love. I'm a beacon of self-love. Have you ever heard that you have to give what you need in the world? If you're a beacon of self-love, can you imagine all the love you're gonna get? Oh my god! You will. You'll put it out there. It'll come back. It's all that good stuff. So thank you for being here. Thanks for being with our short episodes. Check out our longer-form episodes in the feed that you're listening to this on, and let us know what your takeaways are. We want to hear from you. Until next time, Be It Till You See It.

Lesley Logan 6:56  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 7:39  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 7:44  

It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.

Brad Crowell 7:48  

Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan 7:55  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 7:59  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.