Be It Till You See It

Change is in the air, and adjusting your routines to honor your time is the ultimate power move. In this final standalone FYF episode, Lesley Logan shares an exciting update about the podcast schedule to better serve listeners. She also reflects on the restorative magic of her recent Cambodia retreat, the universal annoyance of mosquito bites despite endless remedies, and why treating yourself to expansive, immersive experiences truly changes everything. Plus, you will hear massive community wins and a powerful weekend mantra to help prioritize your personal well-being.

If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at [email protected] mailto:[email protected].

And as always, if you’re enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.

In this episode you will learn about:

• Why the podcast schedule is shifting to two weekly episodes.
• How the Cambodia retreat provided an ultimate restorative sleep environment.
• Why spraying B12 fails to prevent annoying mosquito bites.
• How to secure early bird spots for the 2027 retreat.
• Why teaching a Reformer Foundations class is a massive achievement.

Episode References/Links:

• @kmartt9 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/kmartt9/
• @lacelogan Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/lacelogan/
• Cambodia Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.com
• upLift Teacher Training Program - https://xxll.co/uws
• Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions

If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSI

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Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper’s Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipment

Be in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlist

Be It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-survey

Be a part of Lesley’s Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/

FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/

Resources:

• Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-g
• Lesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/
• Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/
• Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/
• Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQ
• Profitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/

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• The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses

Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

It's Fuck Yeah Friday.

Lesley Logan 0:01  

Fuck yeah!

Lesley Logan 0:02  

Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:48  

Be It babe, how are you? Okay, this is the a different way of introducing the Fuck Yeah Friday because while I will always consider Fridays to be Fuck Yeah Fridays, we are moving the fuck yeahs to the recap episodes, and that's not because I don't love doing them. I don't love sharing you. In fact, we'll still be sharing your wins. We'll still be sharing our wins. It's really because we want to continue to honor your amazing time that you give to us, and also our own. And so, instead of doing three episodes a week, we've decided to do two only. And so, every recap episode, which is basically about every other week at this point, we will celebrate a bunch of wins at the same time. So still send them in to beitpod.com/questions you can send in topics you want me to do solo episodes on. Please do that. We're just making some adjustments. I mean, come on, this is episode 700 and something. So we're changing things as the world is changing and life is changing and yours, too. So I hope that this doesn't bum you out. I'll still do a fuck yeah intro to the fuck yeah section. So I'll make sure we get the fuck yeah into the segment. Of course, we'll work on that because I know people love that part. Me too. And so this is our final Fuck Yeah Friday episode, and then you'll start to hear the fuck yeahs happening on the recap day on Thursday. Thank you so much, and I really truly appreciate you. And go celebrate some wins.

Lesley Logan 2:09  

Here are some of yours. Happy end of October. Oh my gosh, do you know what you're gonna dress up as tomorrow? Ah, I rarely dress up for Halloween. I often just go in my own clothes, and people tell me what character they think I am, and that's the fun part about being an Aquarian. Literally, last time I just wore a green coat and I braided my hair, and oh my god, you're so and so. Oh my god, you're so and so. I have to look at these Disney characters. I know you're talking about. That's just, this is how I own. This is how I dress, and that's my fun favorite thing to do the last several weeks. I just have too many clothes to wear, and I have too many things that are mean. But anyways, that's not why you're here. This is the Fuck Yeah Friday episode, and I have your wins to share, my wins to share, and something going on. So here's the deal: we have been back from Cambodia, and I love it so much. And it's where, you know, we just have the most magical, fun time. And I love how my skin feels. I love how my hair looks. I love everything about it. I think I look like a hippie goddess. I'm just living. I get the most sleep there. It's so great, but I hate the mosquitoes. I'm not gonna lie. Any humid environment, any humid environment, U.S., anywhere, if it's humid, I get bit by mosquitoes, and I am annoyed by that. I'm over that, and I will say we're back in Vegas, and Vegas now has a mosquito problem too. So I just can't get away from them, and they love me. They love me, and don't tell me I should have more garlic or should have more B12. Let me tell you, I have sprayed B12 on myself. They just are obsessed with me. Brad, he gets one mosquito bite. I get 17.

Lesley Logan 3:31  

So yeah, but my win is that we did have a truly amazing retreat. It was truly wonderful and beautiful, and I really, really love getting to take people there. I think it's so important that people get access to opportunities like that, and so we'll do again one next year. So if you're not on the wait list for our retreats, make sure you get on the wait list at crowsnestretreats.com because in January we're going to open up the early bird for October 2027, and it sold out this year in three weeks. So don't miss out on that. Okay? So and also for those of you who are listening who came, you have no idea the impact you have on my life because I do remember all of the different moments we get to have together, and it's just truly wonderful and special. And I'm just truly the most grateful that you took time out of your busy lives to spend a week with us in our favorite place in the world.

Lesley Logan 4:18  

Your wins. Here we go, and then we get to throw another month off the calendar because we're moving on to the next one. @kmartt9, "I taught my first reformer foundation's class." Oh, I love that! I think that's so beautiful. Congratulations! That's really a lot of work teaching foundations. It's actually harder than you think. So way to go! You should be so proud of yourself. Thank you for sharing that win with us. And then, @lacelogan, "Feeling more confident with my Pilates teacher training." Yeah, Lace, you are in upLift, and you have been doing so, so good. It's really incredible to see how far you have come in just a very short period of time. So thank you for being part of our upLift program.

Lesley Logan 4:57  

My loves, you are amazing. I really am so grateful for you. Here is your mantra for the weekend: My well-being is a priority I honor. My well-being is a priority I honor. Be It babe, your well-being is a priority you need to honor. Thank you so much. Have an amazing day. Go Be It Till You See It.

Lesley Logan 5:16  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read in another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 5:59  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 6:04  

It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.

Brad Crowell 6:08  

Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan 6:15  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 6:18  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

In this recap of the unfiltered episode with Lacey Newman, business coach and host of the Emmy-nominated show The American Dream, Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell break down what it really takes to stay on your own calendar and set ambitious goals that genuinely challenge your comfort zone. They explore their own personal experiences with navigating the friction of survival, the undeniable power of protecting your energy, and why setting strict boundaries can actually help you thrive.

If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at [email protected] mailto:[email protected].

And as always, if you’re enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.

In this episode you will learn about:

• Handling pushback from others pulling you back.
• Learn why time is actually made rather than found.
• Protecting your schedule by delegating your tasks.
• Gain the courage to get into rooms that scare you.
• Playing to win instead of setting safe, achievable goals.

Episode References/Links:

• upLift Teacher Training Program - https://xxll.co/uws
• eLevate Live Q&A - https://lesleylogan.co/elevate
• OPC Flashcards - https://opc.me/flashcards
• OPC Posters - https://opc.me/posters
• Cambodia Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.com
• Lesley Pilates on Tour - https://xxll.co/pot
• OPC Winter Tour (Powered by Balanced Body) - https://opc.me/tour
• Lacey Newman's Website - https://laceynewman.com
• Ep 745 ft. Brad Bizjack - https://beitpod.com/ep745
• Support Future without Violence - futureswithoutviolence.org
• Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions

If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSI

DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipment

Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper’s Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipment

Be in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlist

Be It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-survey

Be a part of Lesley’s Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/

FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/

Resources:

• Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-g
• Lesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/
• Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/
• Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/
• Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQ
• Profitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/

Follow Us on Social Media:

• Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/
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• Facebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilates
• LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/
• The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses

Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

If you play to win, you may not ever hit the actual goal you set for yourself, but you will move yourself into a place where you are challenged, and you actually can look back and go, "I did the best I fucking could."

Lesley Logan 0:12  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:55  

Welcome back to the Be It Till You See interview recap, where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the unfiltered convo I had with Lacey Newman in our last episode.

Brad Crowell 1:02  

It was unfiltered.

Lesley Logan 1:03  

If you listen to the Jamie Lerner one, I don't think so. I don't think that's for me. Then you listen to this one, Lacey, make sure you understand. Yeah, it's fucking for you. You don't get out of this life without prioritizing yourself. So if you want to know more about that, you should listen to it. But you can listen to us first and then go listen to that. Today is October 29th, and it's National Hermit Day. Very important, Brad. Giving the options, and I think some of you guys are overdoing it. And in order to honor Lacey Newman's obsession with what she wants you to do, which you have to listen to the episode, I think you have to be a little bit of a hermit. I'm really good at hermiting. I love it. I can't.

Brad Crowell 1:38  

Lesley's really good at hermiting. It's true.

Lesley Logan 1:40  

I could hermit for a month and go. Hey, I was just thinking about you. I'm also an Aquarius, so when we say we miss you, we really mean it. Anyways, National Hermit Day is observed every October 29th. It invites everyone to step away from the hustle and bustle and embrace some much-needed solitude. This day is a perfect opportunity to de-stress, recharge your mental batteries and reconnect with yourself. Find your favorite quiet spot, engage in a calming activity, and savor the peace. Take a break and turn off notifications and enjoy your me time to the fullest. How do you do that without going to the mountaintop and living in isolation? Well, I would just turn all your phones and devices off and put on some good music. You don't have to go; that's easy. But apparently, you need information, so you could replace physical isolation in the wilderness with digital boundaries, remote work, and low-visibility urban or rural living.

Brad Crowell 2:27  

That would be actually moving. Low visibility urban or rural living. Secular hermits do not need to move to a cave to disconnect. Instead, they build structured routines within their society while drastically cutting down their social footprint, yeah, you are you are the queen of Irish goodbyes, and also saying yes and no intentionally. Yeah, you're a modern hermit.

Lesley Logan 2:50  

Just so you all know, in case no one told you, the Irish goodbye is the kindest way you could leave a party. It is the least selfish way to leave a party, and Chelsea Handler, in fact, Irish goodbyes her own parties at her own house, and I love that. So I'm just, Irish goodbye. You just don't make the thing, the leaving about you, right? So, anyways, I recommend becoming a modern urban hermit of some kind. You could just hermit for one hour a day. Could be half an hour a day, could be 10 minutes. But try it. If you're wondering, I have so much energy, and I get everything done. It's because I spend very little time worrying myself about being around people, and I love the people I like to spend time with when I get to spend time with them. And also, I'm the most present when I'm with them. I mean, I think Brad probably disagree, but we live and work together, so that's a different story. It's only true. 

Brad Crowell 3:40  

We commute together. We eat lunch together. We work together. Yeah.

Lesley Logan 3:44  

Yeah. So you can only spend so much of the time present. You guys want to run through this? Here's the deal. I have a Pilates teacher training with some amazing educators, and at the time that you're listening this, I will have announced where these cities are. If you were on the wait list, and so if you didn't hear that yet, you need to be on the wait list to find out when those people are actually taking applications and ready to sign you up. xxll.co/uws. My upLift is, that's what it's called upLift, is a teacher training program that I created that I use to base in Joe Pilates' systems and the science of learning, and it's disrupting the Pilates education for sure. And the people who are teaching it for me are people that I've trained through my eLevate mentorship program, and they are hand trained by me, hand picked by me, and I'm really, really excited for the people that you will get to learn with. So, xxll.co/uws. We will have a quiz on my website. So, if you're wondering if you need to be on upLift or if you need to be an eLevate, there'll be a one-minute quiz, three questions that you can find. I don't have that link right now, but just if you go to my site, you'll find it. And then eLevate is for those of you who are already currently a Pilates instructor, conference that we train that wants to study directly with me, or perhaps you want to study with me and then you want to become an upLift educator. That is currently the path. To become an upLift educator, so lesleylogan.co/elevate, 2028 might be sold out, but you should check. You should see. It might be for you. You know, it's funny how some spaces just open up for the right person.

Brad Crowell 5:12  

It's true.

Lesley Logan 5:13  

So flashcards, these are for you whether you are a Pilates instructor or a Pilates lover. We have six different decks. You can go to opc.me/flashcards to grab those, and when you grab flashcards from us, we actually donate to the Nevada SPCA. They not only help dogs get homes around here, they actually also help dogs stay in homes around here, which is really cool, especially as economy is having a hard time. It really is beneficial. Vegas is one of the largest rental communities that are out there, and so a lot of people have to give up animals because of a rental property thing, and they actually help keep those dogs in those homes. So they do amazing work. And if you were I love my flashcards, but I want something else. You can go to opc.me/posters, and you can grab posters that go along with those flashcards, or just grab the posters because that's what you want.

Brad Crowell 6:02  

You can do that, too.

Lesley Logan 6:03  

You guys, we just got back from Cambodia, and if you.

Brad Crowell 6:06  

It's kind of my favorite thing to do in the world. It is amazing. It's just simply, I mean, going back for us now, it's like going home. We've been going there for it's 2026, y'all. We've been going there for 10 years.

Lesley Logan 6:19  

That's insane.

Brad Crowell 6:20  

That's insane. We got our house.

Lesley Logan 6:22  

Because I'm not 10 years older. 

Brad Crowell 6:24  

Never. We got our house in 2018, so it's been eight years at our own place. And honestly, we if we could go more often, we absolutely would. There's something very special about being there. The people are just so kind, loving, and amazing. The temples of Angkor are, I think they're on one of the Wonders of the World list. I don't know, but they're unbelievably cool, y'all. They were built 1000 years ago, and they got buried in the jungle, and then they're unburied from the jungle now. They're just-it's amazing. It's mind blowing. And then Lesley teaches Pilates. You get to eat local food. You get to build some new relationships with friends and it's just epic. So you should definitely join us. 

Lesley Logan 7:03  

So go to crowsnestretreats.com to get on the wait list because January is when we open up the doors for next year's trip, and this one sold out in three weeks. So you definitely want to be on that wait list. I'm unpacking just to pack because I'm going back to Asia. I'm going to the Pilates Summit in China outside of Shanghai, and you can Google Lesley Logan teaching in China. I'm sure the link will come up. I haven't been given that link yet, but it's going to be really wonderful. It's our second one, and I'm really excited. There's some other people who are teaching that I know from the Pilates travel circuit, and so I can tell you it's going to be wonderful education for you. And then I'm going to be teaching at the last 50th anniversary celebration for Balanced Body at their POT, their Pilates On Tour in Goa, India. That one's a really cool one because you don't just buy one day; you buy the weekend, and you apparently you get to have lunch with me. I don't know. There's a lot going on that I will find out when I get there, but it's going to be literally we're on a little mini retreat together in Goa, India, which looks like a resort of sorts, and I am here for it. I'm here to be spoiled, fucking rotten. I can't even wait to be at a resort in Goa, India. I'm so excited. 

Brad Crowell 8:09  

And I'm jealous that I'm not going because I'm driving the van to Denver when she flies home. I will pick her up at the airport, and we will go on our winter tour.

Lesley Logan 8:19  

Yes.

Brad Crowell 8:19  

Tickets have already dropped, so go to opc.me/tour, opc.me/tour, and come meet up in real life.

Lesley Logan 8:26  

Our tour is always for Pilates lovers of all levels. So whether you're Pilates curious or you're Pilates seasoned instructor, there's classes and workshops for you. Lots of fun prizes. Balanced Body is one of our biggest sponsors to help make sure we can make these the biggest tours we can do. Yep, I don't even know how many miles this is, but it looks fucking massive, so. 

Brad Crowell 8:44  

Yeah, this one is going to be up in the in the 8500 again, you know, area. But we're going from Vegas to Boston to Miami and back. So yeah.

Lesley Logan 8:54  

Yeah, that's what we're doing. Here we go. Fingers crossed, it's not so fucking cold because the summer tour was so fucking hot. 

Brad Crowell 9:03  

It was really hot. The summer tour was hot. As you know, we like to feature a charity, and October is a couple of different months. We've highlighted a few things already this month, but it's also Domestic Violence Awareness Month. So if you're not familiar with that, Domestic Violence Awareness Month, October, and the charity we would like to feature this week is Futures Without Violence, also known as Futures. Futures was founded in 1980 by Esta Soler, a social worker in San Francisco who kept seeing the same pattern: women in recovery programs who were also survivors of domestic abuse with nowhere to turn. She got a federal grant and built what is now one of the most effective violence prevention organizations in the country. 

Lesley Logan 9:45  

It's amazing.

Brad Crowell 9:46  

They were instrumental in passing the Violence Against Women Act in 1994 and every reauthorization since. But here's what makes them different: Futures doesn't just support survivors after the fact. They actually run a program called Coaching Boys Into Men that trains athletic coaches to teach young men about healthy relationships, respect, and what it means to step up instead of staying silent. So that's pretty cool. They're being proactive, and how are they doing that? They're working with coaches, you know, who obviously are very influential in boys' lives.

Lesley Logan 10:19  

I love that because also it gets for that locker room talk that has always went. 

Brad Crowell 10:23  

 Which is such a crock of shit for me, I hate that. 

Lesley Logan 10:24  

Fucking crock of shit. It's a bunch of insecure fucking assholes. 

Brad Crowell 10:27  

Yeah. So basically, they also work with healthcare providers, over 10,000 of them, so that your doctor's office becomes a safe place to also ask for help. And they've held a four-star charity navigator rating since 2006. 82 cents of every single dollar that is provided goes into their programs.

Lesley Logan 10:43  

That's insane!

Brad Crowell 10:44  

It is amazing, and they've been doing this work for more than 40 years, y'all. 40 years.

Lesley Logan 10:50  

I really love that. I I in fact I think that's really wonderful, and we should keep a watch on this one because especially with the manosphere being so dominant in these boys' lives, we. 

Brad Crowell 11:01  

The Tate brothers going to jail. Those guys should have stayed in jail.

Lesley Logan 11:04  

And you know what they're complaining. They're complaining about how they're being harassed and bullied. 

Brad Crowell 11:09  

I don't know how they still have access to the internet.

Lesley Logan 11:11  

I don't understand that either. But I do love. Okay. Well, I'm changing stuff up, what I will say is I've always wondered what is the counter programming to that because the the thing is that social media, the true way of being a man, is not very sexy. But I love that it's more intimate and it's more personable, and it's with these coaches and things like that. So I do think that's a wonderful way to counteract what these grifters. They're mega pastors, but for men's coaching. 

Brad Crowell 11:37  

Yeah, for insecurity, that's like what they are. They're mega, mega. It's insane. But, if you like what the mission is for Futures, you can find out more about them and support what they're doing at futureswithoutviolence.org. That's all one word. So futureswithoutviolence.org, and if you have a charity that you want us to talk about and look into and all the things, just text us 310-905-5534 or you can hit us up at beitpod.com/questions. Let's dig into this convo we have with Lacey Newman. Are you ready?

Lesley Logan 12:12  

I'm ready.

Brad Crowell 12:13  

I'm ready. All right, let's do this. Lacey is a business coach for ambitious women. She's a keynote speaker and the host of the Emmy nominated TV show The American Dream. She helps women build a business that fits the life they actually want to live. Before coaching, Lacey spent 20 years in real estate building a top 1% luxury team in Nashville while raising two kids as a solo mom. She's a self-described tactics girlie who helps women be the architect of their own ambition. It was an amazing conversation. So.

Lesley Logan 12:43  

So I thought so. I mean, there were so many things that I agreed with. 

Brad Crowell 12:46  

Like the overlap was hilarious. 

Lesley Logan 12:48  

Oh, this is. That's why you're here.

Brad Crowell 12:50  

Yeah, very refreshing.

Lesley Logan 12:51  

Well, it's very refreshing because sometimes you're okay. I'm just here on an island chatting from the rooftops that you deserve to prioritize yourself first, and then she's yeah, this is what I coach on them. Great, wonderful.

Brad Crowell 13:02  

So we're not alone.

Lesley Logan 13:02  

Why don't you tell them? Because maybe they need to hear your words. Because she is a mom, you know, she is a mom, and things like that. And she said, "Okay, this is really cool. She said, "Achieving what you want to achieve does not happen by accident. And then she said, "But the second you try to change, the things around you kind of push back, and she described it as like crabs in a bucket.

Brad Crowell 13:24  

Yeah, this was new to me. I'd never heard of this before. 

Lesley Logan 13:27  

I actually do have seen images of this, and I guess I didn't realize what was going on. Yeah, but when the crabs are in a bucket, and the one crab is fuck this, I'm getting out of the bucket. The other crab is like no, don't do it, stay in the bucket, and that's how half of your fucking friends are. That's how they are.

Brad Crowell 13:30  

Maybe more than half. Who knows? 

Lesley Logan 13:38  

Probably your whole fucking group. Which actually, if you did Brad, if you did Brad Bizjack's course last couple weeks ago, you heard the power of people that you're around. So if you didn't, you missed out. You have to wait till next year. But goes in his episode was two weeks ago, but everything people have, it's your mindset. The universe tests you and tries to keep you in the same place that you were. And I do believe this. I do believe as soon as you're okay, this is a thing that I want. There's always an obstacle to make sure you fucking want it. Some people see the obstacle as like, oh, that's a door closing, and I think no. How interested? How much are you going to fight for this? Because if you aren't, if you're just gonna lay down, go, ugh, can't do it. You ain't really want it.

Brad Crowell 14:25  

Nope.

Lesley Logan 14:26  

You know?

Brad Crowell 14:26  

It's very true. I mean, I remember the movie with Will Smith where he was the single dad, and do you remember that one way back in the day?

Lesley Logan 14:34  

He won awards. 

Brad Crowell 14:35  

Unbelievably inspirational movie. 

Lesley Logan 14:37  

It's based on someone's real life. 

Brad Crowell 14:38  

Yeah, yeah. And the guy had he fought through every everything kept was stacked against him, and somehow he made it through. And yeah, fascinating. But I don't know what made me think of that right now.

Lesley Logan 14:49  

I agree. I also just think that you know.

Brad Crowell 14:51  

If you guys know which one we're talking about, DM Lesley.

Lesley Logan 14:53  

Everyone is trying to bulldoze their parents, making sure their kids have no sadness, rejection, things like that. I'm going to tell you right now. It's not like I loved my childhood, but I can tell you, I can bet on myself on any given day because.

Brad Crowell 15:07  

Oh, it's called The Pursuit of Happiness. 

Lesley Logan 15:08  

Yeah, because I have survived all my hardest days, and when we were talking to the upLift teachers about, look, this is the this is an unproven concept in that I've only done I've only done one time, and you're going to do it now. Here's what I know: you will not fail because I will not fail. I know I do not fail. That is not a thing. I will figure out how to help you succeed because I do not fail, and I can say that because my entire life was friction of having to figure out how to survive and figure that thing out. And I do think that for those of you who are making things very easy for people around you, you are not helping them create muscle. Brad talks about this a lot when he coaches instructors. You do need to have stress. You do need to be stressed because it develops the muscle, which actually stresses the bone, which makes your body stronger. And so there are going to be crabs in the bucket. There are going to be friends in your life when you're. I'm fucking changing myself. I'm doing this thing. Who want to pull you back in, right? She said, "Real change takes very intentional focus and strategy because we are programmed to stay the same, and we are. We're programmed to stay the same because it's safe.

Brad Crowell 16:13  

Yep, it's safe. Well, when she was talking about this, one thing that popped in my ear was time as an excuse, right? She said that the thing she hears from most of her clients that she works with is, "I just don't have enough time, and she said, "Well, how is that possible? We all have the same time. We all have the same 24 hours of the day. So it's not about do I have enough time. It's where are you prioritizing your time, right? She said, "Time is not found; time is made."

Lesley Logan 16:44  

Yeah.

Brad Crowell 16:44  

In the sense that we're talking about it here. I agree. If you look at your calendar, it'll show you where your priorities are. And the thing she sees the most with her clients is they are not on it.

Lesley Logan 16:49  

No, they're not. Everyone else is. And when you come to Cambodia, one of the first things we do is create a dream schedule, and you are in there first. And look, I do want to say I've heard many people say, for people who are parents of kids with special needs and things like that, they're not the same 24 hours. And I will say, we have two epic teachers on OPC who have kids with special needs, and we're talking one of them has severe special needs, and I admire how she and her partner and the family and the people who surround them, the community supports her so that she can still go after her dreams. She doesn't love him any less. It's beautiful her love for this child, and I am so impressed with what she's able to do, but she doesn't do it all herself.

Brad Crowell 17:44  

No.

Lesley Logan 17:44  

She does not do it all herself. Everyone in her life chips in because everyone in her life loves her and her family and themselves. And what she is showing her kids is that you can have dreams and you can hit your goals and you can do these things and yeah, you can have other things that are outside of your control, and I think it's so beautiful. Impresses me it so much because wow, I don't know that I would have delegated that way if I.

Brad Crowell 18:10  

Well, what it allows her to do is keep herself on her own calendar.

Lesley Logan 18:14  

Yeah.

Brad Crowell 18:14  

You know, so it's so interesting that just think about it that way. Are you on your own calendar. That's what you need to think about. Are you on your own calendar?

Lesley Logan 18:24  

You know. So, what are your top three priorities? Right. Most people who have children put the kids first.

Brad Crowell 18:30  

Sure.

Lesley Logan 18:30  

And then, if they're religious, that's up there. And then.

Brad Crowell 18:34  

Work or maybe.

Lesley Logan 18:35  

Work and there are many people I admire who are hold on, you first. Then it's gonna be you and your relationship.

Brad Crowell 18:42  

Yeah.

Lesley Logan 18:43  

Your primary relationship, and then it's before it's kids, it's actually work because who is how are you feeding these fucking children? Well, I'll just say, if you are a parent, you have to listen to this episode because if you're Lesley, you have no fucking clue. You are right. I mean, I have some clues because I have friends with kids, but I'm not in your life. But I really loved her way of saying if you have a child who wants to have adult choices

Brad Crowell 19:09  

Yeah.

Lesley Logan 19:10  

Then they have to take on adult responsibilities.

Brad Crowell 19:12  

Yeah, and responsibilities aren't selective, is what she ultimately said. 

Lesley Logan 19:15  

Yes, yes, yes. You cannot be selectively responsible. Yeah, meaning I'm adult enough. I'm responsible enough to go to the movies with my friends. Well, then you're responsible enough to do the dishwasher. Responsible enough. Yeah. And so she really is making her kids take on responsibilities around the house, so that she can do the things that help her be her and be a parent to them, and they are going to be better off because of it. Those of us who are DINKS.

Brad Crowell 19:39  

DINKS

Lesley Logan 19:40  

I need you to think about the DINKS in your life.

Brad Crowell 19:41  

DINKS.

Lesley Logan 19:42  

My parents. DINKS are dual income, no children. DINKS, You might be jealous. You might be jealous of the DINKS. Some people are DINKS because they could not have children. Some people are DINKS by choice. Okay, I just want to say that not all DINKS are selfish people, and I wouldn't say we are selfish. We are actually the least selfish because we decided we shouldn't have children. That said. Your children will be taking care of you and us. And I just want you to picture yourself.

Brad Crowell 20:06  

We're a little bit at a disadvantage.

Lesley Logan 20:09  

We got friends with four kids. I think we're going to be okay. But I want to say, when you are older, are you raising these children to be able to take care of at least you? Because if you are going to have to tell them how to fill the dishwasher at 80, not only have you done a disservice to yourself, but we're we're not fucking hiring them to take care of us.

Brad Crowell 20:31  

That's true. Would we want to hire your kids? That is the question. Okay, stick around. We'll be right back because we're going to talk about some Be It Action Items that Lacey Newman provided.

Brad Crowell 20:44  

All right, so finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted action items can we take away from your conversation with Lacey Newman? She said, "This is the time and energy audit for two weeks. Write down every single thing you do. Every single thing you do using Notes app, paper, whatever is works best for you.

Lesley Logan 21:06  

Tell Claude, just fucking yeah, or just call Claude.

Brad Crowell 21:09  

Yeah, I mean, or whatever, anything. It doesn't matter. Just talk. Just talk to your phone. Log two things for each. How long did it take, and whether it gave you energy or it took energy from you. So, did you get energy back, or did it take your energy? For example, a conversation like this one gives her energy. The legal agreement sitting in her inbox drains her. So, when we say the conversation like this one, meaning conversation she had with Lesley, gives her energy, but the legal agreement in her inbox drains her. She said, "Step two: name your 10-dollar tasks. These are the things that you could pay your 17-year-old daughter 10 bucks an hour to do. And she called out her 17-year-old daughter specifically. She said, "Hand off one task at a time, not all of them at once, and prioritize which ones will get your time back.

Lesley Logan 21:59  

And by the way, if that's not enough, just so you know, in most states, minimum wage is less than $10. Your child is making a lot fuck money. So that's true.

Brad Crowell 22:06  

She has a time blocking download. All you have to do is DM her. So it's @HeyLaceyNewman, and just ask her for her time blocking download. Listen to the, but look at the link in the in the show notes.

Lesley Logan 22:17  

Yeah.

Brad Crowell 22:18  

Yeah. What about you?

Lesley Logan 22:18  

She gave five Be It advice. 

Brad Crowell 22:21  

She did. She did.

Lesley Logan 22:22  

Vision. First, you've got to carve out the space to have the room to have a vision.

Brad Crowell 22:27  

Yes.

Lesley Logan 22:27  

Which I think is really, really great. It's why when people come on our retreat, they have space to think about it. Two, she focus. She calls it a north star. What is the one thing? If you had, if you do nothing else today, you will continue to move the business forward. This is how I have to do every day. I'm sure you too, Brad, because we're never going to finish everything that's on the day. So it's what is the thing that I must get done today? Three, get in the room that scares the shit out of you-the one you feel like you do not belong in. That's the one you should be in. This is one we probably should consider for 2027. 

Brad Crowell 22:59  

Yeah, we're thinking about it.

Lesley Logan 23:00  

Yeah, we'll think about it. I mean, I. 

Brad Crowell 23:02  

I agree, but we're thinking about which room that is. 

Lesley Logan 23:04  

We're trying to think about a few ideas. 

Brad Crowell 23:05  

We have a few ideas.

Lesley Logan 23:07  

Also, can I just say what we're currently doing in our business scares the shit out of me, so I don't know that I need another room. I'm already scared shitless. 

Brad Crowell 23:14  

Well, we also have an entirely new project that we know.

Lesley Logan 23:17  

I know, upLift and the studio. Both of those goals. 

Brad Crowell 23:21  

We started and paused, and we are picking that back up next year. And so that one, that one's definitely intense. 

Lesley Logan 23:28  

So I'll just say those two things scare the fuck out of me. I don't know that I need a fucking shit scary room too. I feel like I'm already no.

Brad Crowell 23:34  

I think I mean look, whether it's 2027 or 2028, there's room for us to be scared of goals.

Lesley Logan 23:41  

If your goals don't scare the shit out of you. Get in a room that scares the shit out of you.

Brad Crowell 23:45  

Yeah.

Lesley Logan 23:45  

Four. Stop waiting for permission. You don't need anyone else's permission or validation. That is true. You need to know that. I didn't ask for anyone's permission on upLift. I'm fucking doing it. And you know what happened? I got so many people going. I'm so glad you're doing this. Thank God you're doing this. This is exactly it. So, anyways, and then five play to win, do not play to lose, because playing to lose looks really responsible, safe, and mature. It keeps you exactly where you are.

Brad Crowell 24:12  

It does.

Lesley Logan 24:13  

And that's where a lot of people that we coach they set goals they can actually achieve. This is what actually got me. I this is one of the exact reasons I quit corporate. I remember when they were showing me the goals for the budgets for the next year. They were coming up with them. This one studio could hit those goals in its sleep. Literally, we could take the manager out of the space, and it would hit it anyways. On a bad day, it would hit it, and well, they had some obstacles, and so we want to make the goals achievable. And she isn't hitting her current goals now because she's not even trying. And now you're going to reward her with commission for closing her eyes and doing the worst of what she's doing right now. I was like, I'm fucking out because that is playing to lose. It is not playing to win. And if you really wanted to win. You would actually set the goals to be something that is actually a challenge, and then we manage her up or we manage her out. And so I will just say, if you play to win, you may not ever hit the actual goal you set for yourself, but you will move yourself into a place where you are challenged, and you actually can look back and go, "I did the best I fucking could. 

Brad Crowell 25:18  

Yeah, you will definitely move the needle.

Lesley Logan 25:20  

Brad and I don't ever hit most of our goals, but I can go. I was challenged in that, and I did the best I could, and now I know better, so I'm going to do better on the next one.

Brad Crowell 25:27  

Yeah, absolutely. I know it's weird to say that, but it's kind of true.

Lesley Logan 25:32  

We don't. We don't hit any goals.

Brad Crowell 25:34  

That's because our goals are a little scary. They're like ambitious and a little scary.

Lesley Logan 25:38  

Our next year goal is to double everything.

Brad Crowell 25:41  

Yeah.

Lesley Logan 25:41  

Yeah.

Brad Crowell 25:42  

It's true.

Lesley Logan 25:42  

Well, that's why we're, that's why I don't know that I need a room that scares the shit out of me. I. I know. I just got. I'm in the shit scary room right now. I just got it. 

Brad Crowell 25:49  

iI just felt it. 

Lesley Logan 25:50  

I'm Lesley Logan.

Brad Crowell 25:51  

And I'm Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 25:52  

Go prioritize yourself.

Brad Crowell 25:53  

Yeah, do it. Hello.

Lesley Logan 25:55  

Hello. Do it. If you are needing a little help with that, get on the Cambodia wait list. Yeah. And see us on winter tour. Take a little double dose of reminding you to prioritize yourself because the winter tour is a way to prioritize yourself during the winter of the holiday when everyone around you is a negative fucking Nancy. No offense to the Nancies who are listening. I have a very favorite Nancy in my life. No offense, but that's just how it's called. But those people, winter, the holidays can really fucking make it suck, and then we're supposed to go into the new year. 

Brad Crowell 26:22  

Yeah, and be so happy after that chaos. 

Lesley Logan 26:24  

Be around Brad and I. We're a breath of fucking fresh air.

Brad Crowell 26:26  

Yeah, we are.

Lesley Logan 26:29  

All right, go Be It.

Brad Crowell 26:29  

 If I do say so. 

Lesley Logan 26:31  

Oh, I will say so myself. I just did. Go Be It Till You See It.

Brad Crowell 26:35  

You're amazing. Bye for now. 

Lesley Logan 26:37  

I know. I am amazing.

Brad Crowell 26:42  

My wife.

Lesley Logan 26:44  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read in another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 27:26  

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Brad Crowell 27:36  

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Lesley Logan 27:43  

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Brad Crowell 27:46  

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The illusion of not having enough time is actively sabotaging your biggest goals. In this episode, Lesley Logan sits down with Lacey Newman, a TV host, real estate coach, keynote speaker, and former top 1% luxury agent who pivoted her twenty-year career to focus on helping other women architect their ambition. Lacey breaks down exactly how to conduct an honest daily energy audit, permanently delegate your menial ten-dollar tasks, and stop waiting for external permission to play a bigger game in life. It is time to reclaim your calendar and protect your peace.

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In this episode you will learn about:

• Overcome the crabs in a bucket mentality limiting your growth.
• Create mental white space by intentionally leading your daily schedule.
• Prioritize focused CEO time every morning to drive business forward.
• Identify and outsource the ten-dollar tasks draining your social battery.
• Stop waiting for permission and play a bigger game today.

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Lacey Newman is a top 1% luxury listing agent and leader of The Elevated Living Advisory at Compass and host of The Emmy-nominated and Telly Award winning TV show, The American Dream. Through her rapidly growing coaching program, Lacey shares the proven strategies and mindset up-levels she’s used to go from zero to running a multi-seven figure real estate team. With over 20 years in the industry, Lacey guides agents to magnetically attract high-end clients, create captivating, consistent content that boosts their brand visibility, and build a business that supports the life they truly want to live.

Through her speaking engagements, media appearances, and podcasting, Lacey shares inspiring stories of overcoming her own struggles as a single mom in real estate to building a business that is aligned, solid and sustainable, while helping others do the same. Lacey is determined to help as many women as she can build a business they can be proud of, that they love, and that can give them the security and freedom that only comes with having something that is all your own.

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Episode Transcript:

Lacey Newman 0:00  

Time is not found. Time is made, and we make the time for what is important to us. And so, first, it just starts with having a really hard conversation with yourself, which is how important is this? Because if you look at your calendar, and it will tell you what your priorities are.

Lesley Logan 0:17  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 1:00  

Be It, babe, get ready. This conversation is so fun. It's two gregarious introverts talking about how you can be until you see it in the best way get out of your own way, manage your time. It's so fun. If you have ever been someone who says I don't have time for that, this is the conversation you have to listen to. I'm super super excited about this! I'm so glad this guest and I met. I can't even wait to hang out with her again, and I'm excited for you to get all these gems. So here is Lacey Newman.

Lesley Logan 1:29  

All right, Be It babe, this is going to be a lot of fun. Our guest and I, I can tell, first of all, we have a mutual friend who's already been on the podcast, so we are going to be fast friends, and this is going to be an awesome conversation. It's going to inspire you to take some action, Lacey Newman. Thanks for being here. Can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at?

Lacey Newman 1:45  

Yes, thank you for having me, Lesley. I'm so excited. When I heard the name of your podcast, I was, well that couldn't be more perfect, because.

Lesley Logan 1:52  

It's pretty amazing.

Lacey Newman 1:54  

Yeah, I'm like, this is so perfect because this is my jam. This is the life I live right now. I live in Nashville, Tennessee. I am a solo mom of two teenagers. I've got a 17-year-old daughter and an almost 15-year-old son. So that is wild. We could talk for an hour just about that if you wanted. But I have recently gone through a massive life transition. I left a 20-year career as a real estate agent, where I built a huge business, top 1% in the country, really top of my market, selling luxury real estate here in Nashville, and started the beginning of a pivot that I didn't really know was happening until I was kind of in the middle of it, and all of a sudden, completely changed everything about my life and my business, and so that's been super, super fun. I am now helping other women architect their ambition because I learned through the process of building my business, leaving my business, all of the things that I've done is that you achieving what you want to achieve does not happen by accident, and there are no shortcuts, and there are no hacks, and it's all about doing the work. And so when I heard about you, and I heard about this podcast, I was, this is perfect because I am a tactics girly all day long.

Lesley Logan 3:12  

Yeah, I also love that architect in there because it's true. You can wake up and go, oh wow, I'm over here on this journey, and this thing is taking me further. But if you don't take the time to actually design it out, you are going to have that house built on the wrong foundation, or you're not going to get the things that you want. You do need to be an architect for it; otherwise, things can sort of happen, but they don't happen the way that you want, and then you have to go back and fix it anyway. So I think this is really cool what you're doing. 20 years that is a long time. I've hit 20 years doing what I'm doing. I can't believe that because time flies. I'm sure people probably questioned what you were doing. You were leaving this successful career, you make a ton of money, and you've got kids. Like, how could you do that? Did you get a lot of judgy questions?

Lacey Newman 3:52  

Oh, not only did I get the judgy questions, I also got it most recently from my 17-year-old daughter. So she was in trouble, and so she was not in her finest moment. She was currently grounded, and she was just trying to stick it to me in any way possible. And so she told me that my career pivot was selfish. And what was I going to do? Post on Instagram for the next 20 years?

Lesley Logan 4:17  

Yeah, maybe. 

Lacey Newman 4:19  

Maybe. I don't know. It's possible. So yeah, I mean that's the whole thing. Is when you are doing anything, people are going to have thoughts about it. And you know, I heard this a long time ago. Crabs in the bucket. Do you know about crabs in the bucket?

Lesley Logan 4:34  

Tell me about crabs in the bucket. 

Lacey Newman 4:35  

Okay. So you're at the beach and you throw a bunch of crabs in a bucket on the seashore, and one crab tries to claw its way out to get over the edge of the bucket. Well, what happens? All the other crabs grab him and try to pull him back in the bucket, and that is what happens when you try to break out of your shell. When you try to break out of your bucket, everything, people, habits, your mindset, the universe tests you and tries to keep you in the same place that you were, and so you know it really does require very, very intentional focus and strategy to make big changes because we are programmed to stay the same.

Lesley Logan 5:13  

Yeah. Oh my gosh. Okay, your 17-year-old is going to regret that someday in her life because she'll realize she's you. 

Lacey Newman 5:18  

She's going to regret it when she hears this podcast. She's mad at me.

Lesley Logan 5:22  

Oh my god! I mean, here's the thing: we all were that 17. We were all you, babe. And also, you know, it's fear, right? She's scared of what that could be for you, and that's where most people are. Those poor crabs don't go on, you don't know what's on the other side of that bucket, so it's safe in the bucket. But it's not safe in the bucket. You're gonna the crabs are going to be food. So I thought that what an interesting visual. I do think we are programmed to stay the same, but as we know, nothing is. Our bodies are different every single day. How we feel is different every single day. Ladies who are listening to this our bodies are very different because it's the perimenopause time. Yeah. So what did you have to tell yourself every day to not get pulled down by a crab? How did you? How did you do that? Because you're swimming against the the current.

Lacey Newman 6:03  

Very much, very much. You know, it's it's a lot of things. I think that I used to say that you had to start with a vision and then build a strategy. And I've recently actually changed my tune on that because the problem that I had myself, and what the problem that so many women that I work with have is that they know there is something more for them. They know there's something that they want to do, but they don't even have any idea what it is. They couldn't have a vision if their life depended on it, because their entire life is dominated by their kids, their clients, their to-do list, all the expectations that they put on themselves, over-functioning for other people, they don't really even have the space for vision, and so it's really easy to go, "Oh, know your why." Well, most people can't know their why because they don't even have the freaking time to ask themselves what their why is? 

Lesley Logan 7:01  

Yeah, it's a big deal. It's a big. It's a deep question. It takes a long time to answer that. I think I was teaching 10 years before I figured why do I do this.

Lacey Newman 7:09  

1000% So what I really recently started doing and realizing is that yes, in a perfect world, if we had nothing else going on, we would go you know onto the top of a mountain and sit there and meditate and come up with what our big vision is for our life and our business, but that is not how the real world works for most of us. So instead, it really has to start with you aligning your time and leading your time so that you can create the mental white space in your life for you to even ask yourself those big questions. And so that's what I'm really focused in on right now is how to create the space, which starts with a strategy of how do you lead your time instead of letting your time and your energy be led by everybody else. Your inbox, your text messages, your social media, your client list, the kid who busts in the door and wants a ride to the pool. I mean, everybody is pulling at our attention, and we are inundated with noise. And if we don't put a structure and a system around how we lead our own time, then we don't even have a chance to ask ourselves the bigger questions.

Lesley Logan 8:13  

Lacey, I couldn't agree more. It's really interesting. I meet so many people. I coach businesses. I have people who do Pilates with me, and the thing that they'll say is, "I don't have time. I don't have time. I don't have time." And they'll look at me. You don't have kids, so that's why you have time. And it's I have three businesses, and so while I don't have anyone yelling my name, there's still pressures. We still all have different things, and what we we choose to make time for is the thing. And yes, there's for those with infants, please feed your babies. That's a different story, but I do think sometimes we have told ourselves we don't have enough time, so much we believe it, and so we don't actually look to see what could be changed, or how we could delegate things off, or how we make the 15 and 17-year-old take care of themselves a little bit more because they supposedly want more time and more responsibility to go out with their friends. Maybe they have to make their own lunches.

Lacey Newman 9:02  

Maybe okay. So, I have a couple things to say about this. This is so huge. So, number one, I taught my children that there's no such thing as selective maturity. Okay? So if you're mature enough to go to the lake with a group of friends for the weekend, then you're mature enough to go pick up the dry cleaning for me. If you are independent and responsible enough to, my son's in boarding school, to live by yourself in another state and attend a basketball boarding school, you're responsible enough to take out the trash without me asking.

Lesley Logan 9:35  

Yeah.

Lacey Newman 9:36  

And so that's one thing teenagers especially try to get away with is they want all this independence and they claim to be so grown up, but you can't, it can't be selective. So for any moms or dads that are out there listening, you may claim this as your own and tell your kids there is no such thing as selective maturity. And they, you know it's a give and take. I remember when my mom, my mom actually, went to a parenting class back in the '80s when I was a little kid, and she said, my mom grew up in a small town in Georgia, and she said that she went to this parenting class, and she was on the edge of her seat from this speaker, where everybody else in the room, all these other moms, were like clutching their pearls because they couldn't handle what this woman was saying. But this woman basically said, "Do not do anything for your kids that they can do for themselves." And people were horrified. And my mom, being a single mom at the time, was like, "Yes, this is what I was waiting for somebody to give me permission to do." And so she came home. She took my brother and I to the washing machine. She said, "Can you reach those knobs?" I could reach them. My brother could reach him if he stood on his tiptoes, and she was all right. Great, I'm going to teach you both how to do your laundry.

Lesley Logan 10:45  

Yeah.

Lacey Newman 10:46  

And she never did our laundry again.

Lesley Logan 10:48  

Yeah, I love I love your mom, and also I'm thinking back to what I remember my parents did for me, which I don't think that they did with my siblings. Which is my dad used to pour a bowl of cereal dry in a bowl and put the milk in a glass, and there's a picture of me at three years old, opening the fridge, taking out the bowl and the milk, and putting the milk into the thing, and sitting down and eating it, so that my mom could sleep. I could just make my own breakfast, you know. And when we were safe enough to learn how to make pancakes, she's like, okay, so when the bubble pops and it doesn't sink down, you flip it over, right? And so it made me a very independent child who was very autonomous and did some things, and I think that that is important because you know you want them be able to take care of you when you're older, right?

Lacey Newman 11:30  

Yeah. Right, exactly. So okay, I don't want to be a senior citizen being taken care of by some incompetent adult. Yeah, completely, completely.

Lesley Logan 11:39  

Okay, but how do people start auditing their time? Because this is where I think people get stuck. Okay, I have my time. Do they use a tool? Do they map it out? What? Where do you look and see where you're there's time that you could actually turn into this blank space, thinking about what you want?

Lacey Newman 11:54  

Absolutely. Well, I want to double-click on something you said before I went off on my tangent about teenagers. But you know, people say I don't have enough time. That is probably the thing I hear most from women that I work with, and it's just BS. I mean, it is. Everyone has the same 24 hours in the day. How you use it is vastly different. I mean, look at the most successful people on the planet; they don't have any more time than you do, and they're getting you know quantum light years more worth of work done every day, and so it's time is not found, time is made, and we make the time for what is important to us. And so first, it just starts with having a really hard conversation with yourself, which is how important is this? Because if you look at your calendar and it will tell you what your priorities are. Now here's where a lot of people get stuck. A lot of you know moms running businesses and you substitute your dogs or your husband or whatever from children. This goes for everybody. You look at your calendar and it shows you what your priorities are. And most people that I work with, they look at it and they go, "Well, it's my clients and my children, as it should be. No, it's not. It needs to be you on there first, because when you put yourself first, when you choose yourself, then you have so much more to give to your clients, so much more to give to your children. If you focus on being reactive to other people's needs instead of your own, then you you and your business and your life will always be capped out at your own physical capacity.

Lesley Logan 13:30  

Yeah.

Lacey Newman 13:30  

And that's what the whole thing is here: is how do you get more done with the amount of time that you have? So the first thing is stop telling yourself the lie that you don't have enough time. You have to go make the time, and then you know, for me, it gets really tactical, and I actually have something, if your listeners are interested, they can DM me on Instagram and just tell me DM me the word hours, and I will send you this little training that I put together. I've got a download of exactly how I lay out my week, and it starts with having that intentional morning time. I don't have some elaborate morning routine, but I have some really firm boundaries on what noise I allow into my space during that time. And for me, I'm exercising because if it doesn't happen first thing in the morning, it's not happening at all. I'm spending time with my kids. I'm not getting in my inbox, I'm not responding to text messages. I'm not answering phone calls before a certain time. I'm doing the things that I need to do to be able to hear myself think. And then from there, the first thing on my calendar every day when I sit down at my desk is my CEO time, and that's where I sit down. I look at what did I get accomplished yesterday. What needs to be moved over to today? Because maybe I mean I've never gotten to the end of a to-do list. I don't know about you. So there's always something else to turn over. And then look at if I got one thing done today, what is the most important thing for me to get done today? And do that first. And so on my calendar, the. That I block my time out. I have North Star focus time for the first two hours every morning.

Lesley Logan 15:06  

Cool. 

Lacey Newman 15:06  

And so I sit down and I do what is most important to me and my business first before I answer anybody's email. Before I call anybody back, I schedule my client appointments in the afternoon because I know for myself I'm most focused first thing in the morning.

Lesley Logan 15:21  

Yeah.

Lacey Newman 15:21  

I got my caffeine. I've gotten a good night's sleep. I need my brain power in the morning to do what's important to me. And then in the afternoon, I'm better for errands. I'm better for conversations. It doesn't require so much focus. And so really paying attention to your own natural rhythms, not only on a daily basis, but on a weekly basis, on a monthly basis, as you alluded to, we especially as women need to be so cognizant of we don't get up every day and have the same social battery, the same focus battery, 24/7. We are not robots, and so really learning to work within your own natural rhythms and go this is the best time for me to do this, this is the best time for me to do that. Or this time of the month, these are the types of things I'm going to do in my business. And these times of the month, I'm just going to take it off my plate because it's not going to get done anyway. 

Lesley Logan 16:13  

Yeah, I love this so much. I have a similar strategy of how I do my time, and I change mine with the seasons a little bit. I've got three different types of lideal schedules because it depends if I'm in town, out of town, you know, on the road, and it is this interesting thing. I can tell when I'm hitting burnout if I ask myself, "Did I actually do my gemstones time? I call it gemstones time. Oh no, I haven't been doing that for two weeks. Well, no wonder I'm burnt out because I'm not. I'm actually just doing the reaction stuff and not doing the thing that is the CEO time is the creative time to move things forward, and it really is this incredible thing when you shift things to work with your energy levels. It's that compounded interest that really you get more done. And I also will say you are a better person to your children, your clients, your partner when you work like this, when you operate your life like this. I don't. I am. I can tell you from watching parents who said all they did, they did everything for us and and their jobs because they needed to make money. I grew up very poor and they did all these things for us. They were not full of energy and excitement and love every day. They were exhausted. They were absolutely exhausted. So I'm not saying that their intentions weren't good, but the results of it meant that they were tired fighting parents because, of course, they were. They weren't, you know. And when I was older, teenagers, they started going to the gym in the morning together. All of a sudden, you started to see a whole different side of people, and so it's not working out as the key, but taking time for yourself is the key, whatever that is. And so I, I too have a block in my morning, and the only thing that's consistent is that I get up, do my cold plunge, read this little journal thing that gives me, it's called A Journey to the Heart (inaudible) or the soul, and I love just reading it every day. And then I take my dogs for a walk, and then after that, between that walk and when I go to work, it's either my workouts or it's some red light or it's whatever I want to do. But it's it's that same thing. It's been intentional time where other people can't be in my space.

Lacey Newman 18:02  

Exactly. That's what it's all about. It doesn't matter what you do; it just matters that nobody else is there. Yeah. So how do you

Lesley Logan 18:08  

Yeah. So how do you go? How do you go, Lacey, from, or how do your clients go from? Okay, this the schedule that doesn't work for them that they think does, and then the ideal schedule that they're trying to create. Because I think some people want to flip it like a switch, and it's I don't know that that's possible. So how do you how do you live with the in between?

Lacey Newman 18:26  

So one of the tools that I use is a simple time and energy audit. So I ask my clients to write down, do it in their notes app on their phone on a piece of paper if they use a hard planner, whatever's the easiest possible thing. But write down every single thing you do for two weeks, and not only how long did it take you, but how much energy did it either give you or take you? Because there are things talking to you right now actually gives me energy. I will get off this call, and I'll feel even better than I did before I got on it. But when I go review this legal agreement that's sitting in my inbox, I'm not going to feel better when I'm done. Other than I'll feel glad that it's over with, but it's it's going to take it's going to be a drain. And so, being really aware of what are you doing, how much time are you spending on it, and is it giving you energy or is it taking energy from you? And what every single person who does this realizes really quickly is how much time they're spending on what I call $10 tasks.

Lesley Logan 19:24  

Yeah.

Lacey Newman 19:25  

This is something that theoretically you could pay my 17-year-old daughter 10 bucks an hour to do for you, and it is what most of the women I work with are spending most of their time doing. Yeah, and these things are below their pay grade, they are not energy giving. They are just complete time sucks, but they are the things that have to be done. And so, it's about getting really honest with yourself first and realizing, I am never going to grow my business. I am never going to reach this goal. Maybe it's a fitness goal. Maybe I'm never going to hit this amount of money. If that's what your goal is, whatever it is you're working toward, if you are not focusing your attention on the things that bring you the biggest return, you're never going to get there. If you are, you know, trying to hit a body fat percentage or muscle mass, and you never did legs, it's going to be a lot harder, right? Like we know, leg day is a better bang for your buck than arms, and so you have to focus your attention on the things that make a difference. And what most people are focusing the majority of their attention on are just the menial things that don't actually move the needle.

Lesley Logan 20:33  

Right? But they get to check a box, Lacey.

Lacey Newman 20:35  

They get to check a box, and that the dopamine hit.

Lesley Logan 20:38  

Yeah, that is the sign that you have ADHD you should go get that diagnosed. 

Lacey Newman 20:42  

Yeah, right. But we all, I mean, we all present that way at this point in time. If you are a busy middle-aged woman with a lot going on, you are going to present like that. 

Lesley Logan 20:52  

Also, even if you don't, everybody does things for the dopamine because they get to look what I did. I did that. I moved this thing, but you really just did busy work, not business work. And it's just, it's hard because I think people have been also raised. If you didn't finish something, you can't celebrate it, right? You have to to get the trophy. You have to have done the thing, and it's there's a lot of little steps along the way that if you actually just take a look at it and you take a look at what you're supposed to be doing in it. You know, I have had people side eye me when we say we have a guy who picks up the dog poop every Monday, and they're, what? Right. It's $15, and then the landscaper can come and do what he does on Tuesday morning. And there, I don't have to do. Do you know how many times I was running out there when I saw the red truck? Fuck, the landscaper is here. I have to run out there and do it because why? That I don't want to do. It has to get done. And so, and you know how much I charge to do a session with me? Well, me going out there looking for this stuff is much cheaper than paying someone to do it, and now it's not taking up brain space. I'm not panicking when I see the landscaper come. All that stuff. My husband's-it's our first house. I'm gonna mow the lawn up. You're gonna mow the lawn. You're gonna mow the lawn in Las Vegas. You're gonna mow that lawn. And we moved in the summertime, and he did it one time? He's gonna listen to this. Maybe maybe he did it twice, but it really feels like one. And I was, so that landscaper, you know, he's only about $100 a week. Do you want to just call him?

Lacey Newman 22:13  

1,000% I don't go to the grocery store.

Lesley Logan 22:16  

Either.

Lacey Newman 22:16  

I don't cook. I don't clean my house. I don't wash my car. I mean, I can do all of these things, but it's way more effective and more efficient for me to pay somebody else to do it than for me to do it myself. If and here's the big if, if I spend that time doing something that will actually make me more money.

Lesley Logan 22:38  

Well, there's that, and also I'm sure you'll agree with me. If those things bring you joy and energy, knock yourself out. Go for it. But I find that a lot of people use. Well, I have to get this organized before I can do this thing, and I actually think that's just another excuse. You're scared of doing the thing because the thing is going to take you to a place where you don't know. The thing is actually going to take you out of that crab bucket, and you're you are yourself being the other crabs pulling yourself in because it's safe. But really, it's I, of course I like a clean a desk and a clean house and everything organized. But also, if I spend my time doing that every single day to pick up after my my ADHD self, I'm not going to get the things done. And then the other thing I'll just say is, I didn't hire, and I'm sure Lacey's the same way. I didn't hire each one of these people who helps us on our team all at the same time. It was one thing at a time, and it's based on which one gets me the most time back. But also, my money is going back into the community. Every single one of those people lives or works in this neighborhood. My housekeeper gets to pick up her kids and take them to school. She actually does every house on this block, and she loves it because she has her own business. And so you have to think about it. It's not we're giving away things that are gross or awful. We're actually taking people who have the idea of doing that because that brings them joy, and they're really good at it. And we're allowing them to be empowered, and their families be empowered, and then we all get to win.

Lacey Newman 23:55  

Exactly, exactly. And in you know, one of the things that just really stood out as you were talking about that is if it does bring you joy, please do it. If you love to cook, absolutely. We don't want to take away things that really do bring us joy just because just because it's something that maybe isn't like the biggest revenue driver in our business. But the other thing that what you were saying made me realize is that there are so many times I hear women who they really need to hire help. Maybe they need to hire an assistant. They need to start building out their team. And what they say to me is, as soon as I get all my SOPs created, then I can make the hire. As soon as I get such and such organized, then and I can make the hire. And I'm always, it will absolutely never happen. Exactly what you just said. That is a delay tactic from doing the actual thing because you don't create the SOP and then hire the person to run the play. You hire the person, say, "Here's all my crazy chaos, make it make sense, and build me an SOP." And you let that person come into your world. We call them junk drawer meetings. I love this. I'll get on with my team, and I'm okay, junk drawer, and I will just download all of the things that are scattered around that make no sense in my head, and then my team does the same thing, and then we organize them, and then we put in a plan of attack of how we're going to get all these things done. But you've got to have somebody to help you do that because for me, I may have 25 things swimming around in my mind that I'm never going to get to, and as long as Meryl is right there for me to say, "Hey, I've got all these things, that girl can knock all of them off my list in one day, and I would never get to them. But so many women have this limiting belief around I have to have my act together before I can hire someone to help me, and I'm no, no, no, no. You hire someone to help you get your act together.

Lesley Logan 25:47  

Yeah, I mean, I think especially that's a perception thing. You're a little worried about what they're going to say. They want a job as an assistant. They want to be your assistant. They want to do the thing, right? You know, it's like when the people who clean before the housekeeper comes up.

Lacey Newman 26:00  

Oh, I don't do that.

Lesley Logan 26:02  

I watch my husband doing the dishes the night before. She's coming tomorrow. She's coming tomorrow. So if you don't need that dish, I when I was a coffee shop employee, when I was washing dishes, they said as long as there's dirty dishes, you have a job. That's job security. And so to me, like that is her. But I remember when I hired my first assistant, being a little embarrassed that I didn't know how to do the things I was asking her to do, and she's so great because she had been an assistant for a long time already. Lesley, it is my job to do these things. So stop asking me if I can do something. I will tell you if I can't do something. And I was, oh right, I hired you to do this, okay. And so I I realized it was just a limiting belief I had that I had to know what I was asking her to do. But really, when you hire people to help you, you can just be honest with them. I don't know how this goes. Here's how I want it to go. Here's what my expectations are, and then see what they do and let them impress you because it's kind of like going back to the conversation. Don't do things for your kids; they can do for themselves. Let these people help you. They want to, and you all get to make a bigger impact together.

Lacey Newman 27:00  

 Exactly. And you know, at this point in my life, if I don't know how to do something, unless it is hugely important to my business, AI, I'm learning. Okay. I am focused my time and attention on learning and implementing AI because it's that big of a deal. Everything else, if I don't already know how to do it, I'm not going to go learn. I'm going to say, "Team, you don't know how to do it. I don't know how to do it. Y'all go figure it out. Yeah, it's not for me as the CEO to go learn and then teach my team. And that's another thing I hear all the time. I've got to go learn this thing and then teach my people. No, you don't need to know it. You just need to say, "This is what I want to happen. Come back to me with a plan of how we make that work.

Lesley Logan 27:43  

Yeah, I think it's and it's probably just years of how women are raised. It's just a little different. We think we've done all the things for all the people all the time, so we kind of have to keep doing that caretaking. And actually, you get to yeah save that for the things you want to caretake over. You know, you actually want to caretake over your clients or your dreams or your people in your life, but there are people who can do that. And I, I will say, I am really, really grateful for the things that I had to do on my own when I started my business. I had to learn how Canva worked. I had to learn how to schedule a YouTube video. I had to learn all those things, and now I don't have to do those things. So you know, there's, there's, there's different stages in our life, but when we make this excuse to hold ourselves back, it's not fun, and it does lead to burnout. And then the world loses a person who is uniquely qualified to do the thing in the way that you did it. You know?

Lacey Newman 28:29  

Exactly.

Lesley Logan 28:30  

Yeah, I think maybe it's also really understanding the people that you're trying to help. Every time you hold yourself back or say you don't have time, you're actually keeping them in pain a little bit longer. Danielle Pink said something on a podcast that I heard 16 years ago, and I've never forgotten it. He said, "If what you do takes people out of pain, it solves a problem they have, and it takes them out of pain. You have a moral obligation to sell it to them." And after I heard that, a moral obligation to sell it to them. After I heard that, I was like, every time I don't do the thing that could help this person that is in pain, I am actually leaving them in pain. I'm holding them there, and so it may it changed how it changed how I treated time and what I did and how I charged because it made me think about the actual user of the product as opposed to myself and what people thought of me. Right?

Lacey Newman 29:16  

Yes, yes, exactly. And that, and I mean that goes for for so many people in sales, you know, one of the biggest things that I hear from women I work with is I don't want to be salesy, and they think that putting themselves out there, showing up as a business on social media, letting people know that you provide a service, they any sort of stepping out and presenting yourself that way feels salesy to a lot of us that that don't have that conditioning of it's really not sales; it's service. And if you think of it from that way, that that is a person who needs your help, and if they don't know that you can solve their problem, then you're actually doing them a disservice.

Lesley Logan 29:56  

Yeah.

Lacey Newman 29:56  

And you know people who are offended by what you're. Offering, or they are not interested in it, or they make fun of you for having a job. Those people were never going to buy from you anyway. Yeah, they were never going to work from you anyway. So who cares what they think? But if you have all of those critics in your head that are telling you, "Oh, I shouldn't show up. I shouldn't offer my services. I shouldn't open this business. I shouldn't share my gifts with the world because I've got you know four people from high school, their voice in the back of my head telling me that this is embarrassing. Then you're keeping yourself from being able to really do what you're here to do is the way that I the way I really believe

Lesley Logan 30:34  

it. Yeah, I think so. I think we can be our own our own worst enemy. I mean, obviously people are listening to this. Well, it's easy for you to say you two are obviously very confident women, and I I joke around. Oh, I just give myself a lot of pep talks, and I do a lot of things scared. But how do you combat those voices, or those comments, or those fears? Is there, do you journal? Do you have a music that you listen to? Do you have a mantra you say? How do you do that?

Lacey Newman 30:58  

I mean, all of the above. You know, I wouldn't classify myself as someone who was just born overly confident. I'm an introvert who pretends to be an extrovert really well.

Lesley Logan 31:08  

Yeah.

Lacey Newman 31:10  

I would rather be in the bathtub than about any other place on the planet, and so I really do have to get myself in the right frame of mind to put myself out there. I didn't show up as my true self on social media for years because I was worried about what people would think. And even yesterday, I I posted a post and I sent it to my assistant beforehand. And I was, I feel really vulnerable about this. And she was that's ridiculous, but also that is what you tell people to do, Lacey. You have to post it if you feel vulnerable about it, you have to post it anyway because that is what you, and I was exactly right. You're exactly right. So I'm just saying that if you sit here and think, if you're listening to this and you sit here and think that you're different than Lesley or I, you're not. We are exactly the same. I put myself in rooms that scare me. I go hang out with people doing things that I want to do that are way above what I'm currently doing, and then I realize they're just normal people. And you know, all really all that the the only difference between where I am in my business and where somebody else might be in theirs, or where you are in yours, compared to Lesley, is time and focus. Yeah, and it's just the compounding results of commitment to doing the same stuff over and over and over and over again. You know, this is where I think that social media, one of the millions of ways that social media harms us, but specific to women like us who are building businesses, is there's a lot of people out there putting out content that make it look like it's fast and easy. I agree. It's seven figures a year, and it's so fast and it's so easy. And all you have to do is download my $7 template. Bullshit. It's not fast and it's not easy.

Lesley Logan 32:52  

No, and you don't want it to be fast or easy. It goes for everything, no diet, no fitness goal, no house, no renovation, and no relationship is fast and easy. I want my meals to be fast and easy, and even then I have to work hard to make sure that they're healthy at the same time. Nothing is.

Lesley Logan 33:09  

Well, I was going to say, and if they are fast and easy, they probably taste like shit.

Lesley Logan 33:13  

Yeah, exactly. 

Lacey Newman 33:14  

That's the thing. It's like you can't have you can't have fast, easy, and good at the same time. 

Lesley Logan 33:20  

I agree. Everything takes a little longer than we want, but it is happening. And I will say, definitely, I agree. Go to be in those rooms. Go, go learn from people who are ahead of it, and you might be. You might even find that they don't even know what they're doing. I've been in places going, I'm doing the same thing you're doing. How are you further along? And then you discover, oh, when they said that they had these big, massive launches that were six figures. It actually spent $90,000 in ads to get to a six figure launch, and so their profits are. You discover a lot of things, and you realize, okay, I'm actually doing better than they are. So put your big girl boots on and celebrate that, and keep going. Sometimes you actually discover a lot of things. You can either be inspired, or empowered, or educated, or you can go. Whoa, I am not giving myself enough credit. Either way, you win.

Lacey Newman 34:06  

Exactly, exactly. But unless you put yourself in those positions to know the answers to those questions, you can sit over here on your side of the internet and think that you're behind.

Lesley Logan 34:15  

Yeah, yeah, and also

Lacey Newman 34:16  

Which not true.

Lesley Logan 34:17  

I love that you said you're an introvert too. I think most people don't realize who the introverts really are because we we can cosplay as an extrovert, and then what you don't see is the four hour morning routine that we recharge with. That's just the thing, and that's what I have. That's what I've had to do, and and and people don't realize it. But the other reality is being introvert does not make you shy, right? Shy, you might have a fear of people. There might be something going on there. It's a whole different thing. Introvert and extrovert is just how you see energy, how you get recharged. So, but I have a lot of people who are Lesley, I don't want to go out there and tell people what I do because I'm just really shy. And I coach people to teach Pilates. You teach people Pilates, so you're going to talk to them at some point. How come you can talk to them in your space, but you can't talk about there? Oh, you're afraid of being rejected. Okay. Well, at least now we know, and then you can go out there. But you were in real estate before this. You got rejected probably a million times.

Lacey Newman 35:06  

Oh, all the time. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You can get hired, and you can you can be accepted and then rejected in the same day. I mean, it's yeah. Rejection is all about it, and so and yeah, and it's just. I think that it is. It's just like anything else. It's getting in reps. You know, I was I was actually listening to one of your earlier podcasts, and you and the guests were talking about getting dumped, and or or dumping someone.

Lesley Logan 35:34  

Yeah, and you were

Lacey Newman 35:35  

saying, "Oh, it's so hard to break up with somebody I've never. And I'm like, "I've broken up with so many people. It's so easy."

Lesley Logan 35:41  

Yeah.

Lacey Newman 35:42  

It's like anything else. It's it doesn't matter what it is if you do it enough times, you get it down and know exactly what to do. And you know, my breakup script is, hey, I've just got to be honest. This isn't the connection that I'm looking for.

Lesley Logan 35:54  

Yeah. Well, also look at. 

Lacey Newman 35:56  

And then you just shut up, and that's the end of it. You know, you can train yourself to handle any awkward situation if you get really clear on what it is that is the truth, and you say it in a short, succinct way, and then you shut up.

Lesley Logan 36:12  

Well, and I think so. That's so funny because so I'm teaching. I have a teacher training program for new Pilates instructors, and so I'm running the beta group right now. And these girls who are auditing with me, they're like, "Well, they're saying a lot of words. They're trying to correct his lines. I said, "Well, it's their first time talking out loud with this stuff, so they're saying way too much, right? My first time breaking up with someone, I don't know how to do it, and I try to do it succinctly. It was words out. I don't even know what I'm saying anymore. But you have to go through that, and then you, and then they do it again, and then they realize I can say it faster this way, and all of a sudden it becoms I can say the thing in four words that's taking them 10 right now, but it just takes reps, like you said. And I think we have to get out of our own way and do the reps, and also maybe just know that everyone has to start somewhere. Everyone starts somewhere, right?

Lacey Newman 36:53  

Yes, and nobody comes out being great at it. You've got to suck at it first, and I, that's what holds so many people back, is we just don't want to be, it's not even that we're afraid of failing; it's that we're afraid of being seen failing.

Lesley Logan 37:06  

Right. 

Lacey Newman 37:07  

Nobody's, we're all fine to fail, but we just don't want people to know.

Lesley Logan 37:11  

Well, you you make an excellent point there, Lacey, and also talking about social media. You're seeing people who have thousands and thousands of followers say it so succinctly, and you're I do it like that. But the reason you didn't see them in the beginning is because they had no followers, so their algorithm wasn't showing you that. So just so you know, no one can see you fail right now. So just go do it.

Lacey Newman 37:29  

Nobody's looking at you either. Exactly.

Lesley Logan 37:31  

I had a great coach saying, "If you can't talk to 10 people in the room, how can you have a goal of talking to 10,000 people? Go learn how to do a speech in front of 10 people because you want to fail there, you want to get your reps in there, not in front of 10,000 people.

Lacey Newman 37:46  

Yeah, and so people beat themselves up for being small or not having a huge following yet, or not having their business be exactly where it is. But it's just where you are in the moment, and every every opportunity creates an opportunity to to get better, and it's all just about putting in the work. And people want to skip it.

Lesley Logan 38:07  

Lacey, I could keep talking to you. I just looked at the time. Holy fuck! Clearly, have to have you back and talk about more things because what you're doing is is is literally helping people be it till they see it. So I love that so much. So we're gonna take a brief break, find out people can find you, follow you, work with you.

Lesley Logan 38:21  

All right, Lacey, where do you hang out? Where can they get all these tools that you've been spouting out?

Lacey Newman 38:27  

Yes. Okay. So hang out with me on Instagram. That is where I live. My handle is @HeyLaceyNewman. So come say hey. And yeah, if you want to see exactly how I'm managing my time, send me the word "hours" in my DM, and I'll send it over to you. I'll give you the exact download of the way that I'm blocking my schedule. It's not to say that my way is the best way, but I want you to see how I do it and give it, make it be a permission slip for you to design one that puts yourself at the center of it because that's what it's all about.

Lesley Logan 38:58  

I love this so much. Yes, that's so easy to do, everyone. I feel like you've given us a lot of great stuff, but we we have to do our bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us?

Lacey Newman 39:07  

Absolutely. Okay. So number one, how to Be It Till You See It? Vision, and as we talked about earlier, you've got to carve out the space to have the room to have the vision. So that's kind of a double edged sword there. But number one, you've got to have vision. Number two, you've got to have focus. I call it a north star in my business. What is the one thing that, if you do nothing else today, you will continue moving the business forward? Number three, get in the room that scares the shit out of you-the one you feel like you do not belong in. That's the one you should be in. Figure out how to get in there. Number four, and we didn't talk about this, and I could talk about this for an hour. Stop waiting for permission. If there is something that you want to do, if there is someone that you want to be, that desire, that ambition, that drive that you have in yourself is the only reason you should do it. Is the only reason you need to do it. You don't need anybody else's permission. You don't need anybody else's validation. If that drive and desire is there in you, that is to me a calling. And finally, play to win. Do not play to not lose. And this is something that I had to learn the hard way because playing to not lose looks really responsible. It looks really safe. It looks really mature. Playing to win, like you just said, those people who are having big giant launchers and spending a lot of money on ads, they are playing to win. Okay, you cannot sit here and go, "I'm going to run my business on a shoestring and not have any employees, and look how profitable I am. Yeah, you might be really profitable, but you're never going to scale. So based on where you want to go, what you want to do, if you've got big goals, you have to play a big game, and that means making yourself uncomfortable and putting it out there in a way that you probably never thought you possibly could.

Lesley Logan 41:00  

I do love this. Thanks. This is great. These are so fun. There's so many good ones in there, and I'm, great reminders, and also, hopefully, everyone gets a little more excited. It's a great thing to do. I love these listeners so much because every single one of them has people in their lives that they can make an impact with, and so just all the things you've said, Lacey, if it makes them double or triple that in a way, we just made the world a much better place. So, thank you for being here. 

Lacey Newman 41:25  

That's what it's all about. 

Lesley Logan 41:26  

Thanks for giving us the honest dose of wisdom, and we'll have to have you back to talk about permission because I do think people are waiting for permission slips, and we need to figure that out. What happened? What school did they learn this in? We've got to unravel that. So we will we will definitely talk with you later on that. So Lacey Newman, thank you so much. Everyone, go DM her "hours" and then also let her know what your favorite takeaway is. Right? That's a wonderful way to make someone's day, and also to help you realize that what you took away from this. Share this with a girlfriend who needs this talk, who's got someone pulling her crab back into a bucket. And until next time, Be It Till You See It.

Lesley Logan 42:02  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read in another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 42:44  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 42:49  

It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.

Brad Crowell 42:54  

Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan 43:01  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 43:04  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

Are you struggling to read physical books without instantly falling asleep? In this Friday mini-episode, Lesley Logan shares her real-life challenge of trying to find meaningful time to absorb, underline, and learn from nonfiction books despite a busy schedule. She also celebrates a massive milestone for the upLift Pilates teacher training program, officially announcing the upcoming January 2027 cohorts and expressing deep gratitude for the educators trusting the process. Wrapping up with inspiring community shoutouts and a powerful weekly mantra about the freedom of self-forgiveness, this quick dose of authenticity is exactly what you need today.

If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at [email protected] mailto:[email protected].

And as always, if you’re enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.

In this episode you will learn about:

• Why reading before bed usually puts you right to sleep.
• The struggle of trying to underline and absorb nonfiction audiobooks.
• Celebrating the new 2027 upLift Pilates instructor training cohorts.
• Community shoutouts for completing the first 100 upLift training hours.
• The mantra that creates total freedom in your everyday life.

Episode References/Links:

• upLift Teacher Training - https://xxll.co/uws
• @clasicapilates on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/clasicapilates/
• @jenvfitness on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/jennvfitness/
• Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions

If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSI

DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipment

Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper’s Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipment

Be in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlist

Be It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-survey

Be a part of Lesley’s Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/

FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/

Resources:

• Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-g
• Lesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/
• Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/
• Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/
• Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQ
• Profitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/

Follow Us on Social Media:

• Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/
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• The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses

Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

It's Fuck Yeah Friday.

Lesley Logan 0:01  

Fuck yeah!

Lesley Logan 0:02  

Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:48  

Happy Fuck Yeah, Friday! Welcome to the mini episode we have here on the Be It Till You See It podcast, where we actually just get to be humans together. We just get to share what wins are happening, I'll vent a little bit, and you can go, "Oh yeah, that's a problem I have too." And then we go, "Oh, but we have to celebrate." And they're fun, and it's a good time, and it's a good time for us to be together. And I don't know, break up whatever true crime slash political podcasts are filling you up. I mean, my goodness, there's an election in a couple weeks in the States, and we are probably all over whatever podcast we're listening to on the news. So hopefully, this is brightening your day and your life.

Lesley Logan 1:20  

So my little hype moment, I would like to just mention about there's way too many books I want to read and not enough time. And I have tried to read before I go to bed, and I'm just going to tell you right now, I get one page and I fall the fuck asleep. I'm grateful because it just puts me to sleep. And so on the nights I've booked it up and can't get back to sleep, I just read a book that I want to read. But the actual reality is, I want to read the book, and I love listening to my audio books. They're really, really great. But also, I want to read a book, especially the nonfiction ones that I'm trying to learn stuff from. I want to underline. I want to do this stuff. So I'm trying to figure out a way to actually make some meaningful reading time happen. I'll let you know how that goes.

Lesley Logan 1:52  

Anyways, my win for the week is that if you have been on our waitlist or you've been following along on socials, we have the first upLift cities, my teacher training program for people want to become a Pilates instructor, we have that kicking off in 2027, right? We'll announce the cities, and so if you want to see the cities that are going to have cohorts in, please check out our website where we have the upLift directory because I'm so, so excited. Right now, I'll just have names, and eventually we're going to have their start dates, right? So names and locations. Some of them will do some remote, but I'm just so proud. This has been a year-long program, just in the build-up, and it's going to take a couple more years to juice everything out. But I'm just so, so excited and grateful for what it is that we're doing and all that we've created. And I'm immensely grateful for the educators who raised their hand to be in the beginning parts of this, because the truth is, is that I can't do this without them, and I really appreciate their trusting the process and what I put together, and they're as excited as I am, and I'm really excited that we're gonna have cohort starting in January 2027. So if you want more information about upLift, you can go to xxll.co/uws. All right, that was my win. Now I need to do your win.

Lesley Logan 3:02  

This is from @clasicapilates. First 100 hours completed in upLift, and can now practice teach!" Oh, I love that! I drew that win right after this one. That was not. That was definitely magic. I just looked down, and that's the first one I read. So, @clasicapilates you've been doing so great by now. You're already more than a third through the program. So, I'm just proud of you for the effort that you've been putting together.

Lesley Logan 3:20  

Not easy to do what you do, especially when you have life and kids and all that stuff. And then, @jennvfitness "Morning pool workout with my aunt." How cool! How special that you get to do that. I love that you're working out with your aunt. I think that's so beautiful.

Lesley Logan 3:33  

All right. So here is your mantra: When I forgive myself, I free myself. When I forgive myself, I free myself. Be it, babe. When you forgive yourself, you free yourself. Thank you so much for being you. And until next time, Be It Till You See It.

Lesley Logan 3:48  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 4:30  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 4:35  

It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.

Brad Crowell 4:40  

Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan 4:47  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 4:50  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

In this solo episode, Lesley Logan pulls back the curtain on eLevate, her exclusive nine-month mentorship program designed for comprehensively trained Pilates instructors. She explains why collecting more exercises won't cure your imposter syndrome, and how understanding the deeper "why" behind the classical system transforms your confidence. Listen to the episode to learn the crucial difference between upLift and the eLevate program, plus how to step away from repetitive scripts and start trusting your own intuition.

If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at [email protected] mailto:[email protected].

And as always, if you’re enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.

In this episode you will learn about:

• Why collecting more Pilates exercises rarely builds true teaching confidence.
• The exact equipment prerequisites needed to join the eLevate mentorship.
• How to stop sounding like a parrot using classical scripts.
• Why eLevate spreads its virtual training weekends across nine months.
• How to progress your clients with intention instead of guesswork.

Episode References/Links:

• Training Quiz - xxll.co/quiz
• eLevate Mentorship Program - https://lesleylogan.co/elevate
• upLift Teacher Training Program - https://xxll.co/uws
• Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions

If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSI

DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipment

Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper’s Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipment

Be in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlist

Be It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-survey

Be a part of Lesley’s Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/

FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/

Resources:

• Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-g
• Lesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/
• Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/
• Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/
• Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQ
• Profitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/

Follow Us on Social Media:

• Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/
• The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-g
• Facebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilates
• LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/
• The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses

Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

I actually do stand by a quote, "Information without integration is constipation." And more information just rarely builds confidence on its own. In fact, more information often really makes you realize, "Oh my God, I don't know as much as I thought I did."

Lesley Logan 0:15  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:58  

All right, Be It babe, are you a Pilates instructor? This episode is going to dive into that. If you're not, you still might get some good ideas out of it, about being it till you see it. If you've been asking yourself, "Am I doing this right? Am I good enough? Can I really teach this? What if my my clients get bored of me?" If any of those questions have run through your head this week or this month or in the last year, I want you to stay with me because this episode is for you. Because last episode I actually told you what upLift was and who it's for. upLift is my new teacher training program for people who want to become a Pilates instructor who have been partially trained, and there is potential for comprehensively trained teachers to want to do upLift. But maybe you're already a teacher and you're wondering, should I do upLift? Should I do eLevate? What are these two things?

Lesley Logan 1:41  

And here's the deal, eLevate has been going on for over six years. The time I'm recording this, I graduated six rounds, and so, so, but now everyone knows that I have it because it's one of those things. It just keeps filling and growing, and I wanted to have something that would, for those of you who are interested, who are wondering which one you should do, wanted to have something you could listen to, understand, and really look back on before you make big decisions, because there's a lot of mentorship programs out there. So how do you know what you should do?

Lesley Logan 2:10  

So today I want to talk about eLevate, which is just a pride and joy of mine. It's also something I say I would never do. So eLevate is a mentorship program that I built for teachers who were already trained. And when I say already trained, I mean and certified. I mean, you've done Mat, Reformer, Cadillac, and Wunda Chair. Now, if you've done more than that, great. If you've done less than that, upLift, right? Because if you haven't done those things, then generally speaking, you've done partial trainings, and I need you to go to upLift and do that because it's just a lot going on. And a mentorship program is a little bit different than a teacher training program because a mentorship program, you are already working with clients. You already know exercises. You already, you also know what you don't. You feel like you know what you don't know, right? So you feel incomplete and you're looking for fix, miss, adding, finding the missing pieces to the puzzle. And I just want to say that that feeling isn't a sign that you did your training wrong, or the training you had was crap. Could have been really great. I've had people go through some really great trainings who still do eLevate. It's a sign that you are ready for another layer. That you are there. You're ready to learn because the reality is, loves, you can only take in so much when you're learning for the first time. There's things that take a few times to learn. Just like if you talk to your clients, like some of them, it takes months for them to actually remember how to do coordination, right? So let's talk about why eLevate exists. I, one, I was continued to be asked to create something like this and I was like, I don't know.

Lesley Logan 3:34  

But what I kept seeing over and over again in traveling the world to teach workshops and classes and watching people ask questions on my YouTube channel was of kind of doing mentoring in small, small little ways, but not over a long period of time, is that people are coming out of their certification, out of their training programs, and they can name an exercise, and they could run a session, and they could keep a client going, and they could keep a class going, and they could fill the space with great cues and words, but if you ask them why they were choosing the exercise or why they thought someone was ready to progress, their confidence kind of got shaky. They didn't really have some people didn't have an answer at all. Some people were, well, what do you think? Some people were, well, that's what I was told, and they didn't like how that felt. I wouldn't like how that felt, and they couldn't trust the why behind it. And I think it's you can go pretty far without knowing why, but at some point, everybody wants to know why. The brain is curious, right? So, eLevate exists, was created to close that gap for those teachers. It's a safe space to deepen what you already know, and also really get to know what you might not know that Joe Pilates has created his his intentions for this work, and to do it in a community of people who are all wanting the same thing, and ask the question they've been sitting on, and grow with people who get it, and so I really wanted to help with that, and. There's a lot of mentorship programs out there. Some of my dear friends are doing them, and the reality is, I always tell people you're the only person who can do what you do the way that you do it. And my friends who do it, they can do it in the way that they only can do it. And there's people that will truly resonate with them more than they'll resonate with me. But there's also some people who just like direct, thoughtful, honest feedback, and not in a dogmatic way, and so any of the programs I create, they are classical because that's how I teach. But there's no dogma; we don't work on that, right?

Lesley Logan 5:30  

So I want to give you a little bit my story. When I picked my first Pilates program, I actually had no idea what I was doing. It just happened to be classical. I was told to go take from that person, and I was really taught to follow a script. I think that they would say they taught me to think on my feet, and in some capacities they might have. But truly, they told me to say it like this because it works. What happened is I tried to do it with a real human in a studio, and they didn't do it. I was expecting, and I was like, "Well, let's throw the script out the window. That doesn't really work. And I also noticed that all the people who've been trained the same way I was trained, they we all sounded like little parrots. We were all like anyone of us could have taught any one of those clients, and the client probably wouldn't notice if their eyes were closed because we just all sounded the same. And so then I did another training program, and I got a lot more information, and I realized it definitely answered a lot of questions and and filled a lot of dissonance, but it wasn't enough. Still felt like there was a a why that was missing, and so when I started sitting with Jay and the people who studied with him, things just really started to click. There was a patience and a perseverance that was cultivated, and it wasn't about oh, let's do the flashy exercise. It was no, you've got to get the juice out of these foundational exercises and finding the strength and power in that. And also, you know, for those of you who know Pilates styles as a classical teacher, there are orders, and so it's well, how do I do all these orders year after year without getting bored, and it's wow.

Lesley Logan 7:02  

There's actually so much creativity in the way that Jay taught me to teach with the orders, right? What does that body need today, right now? What is what am I seeing, right? And there was something I didn't get from manual. They didn't have one, and so that was really cool, and I wanted to pass on that information that Jay gave to me and the teachers that worked with him, and give it to other teachers in a way that would work. What I found is that there was a way for a lot of teachers to not be accepted into that program of readiness, accessibility of equipment, travel, money, things like that. And I wanted to create a mentorship program that would allow people from all over the world to be able to learn without having to fly into Vegas. I also wanted people who were interested in learning Joe's exercises, who were not ready to do a full Reformer, to still be able to be in a mentorship program where they could learn those things and learn how to build themselves up and then progress themselves.

Lesley Logan 8:00  

And so, I wanted to create something that didn't have any barrier of entry when it comes to the ability and level of practice. But at least we'd all have the base understanding that you've at least know these pieces of equipment, so that we're not overwhelming you too much, right? So, eLevate is not about more information, and that's a pattern I see consistently. I see a lot of teachers just sign up for workshops so they can collect more exercises, collect more exercises, and more exercises, and more cues, and more cues. And I actually do stand by a quote that I heard in a breathwork training that I did, which is, "Information without integration is constipation." And more information just rarely builds confidence on its own. In fact, more information often really makes you realize, "Oh my God, I don't know as much as I thought I did. And if you don't have a space and a place where you can safely integrate that information, then you just have overwhelm in your head or constipation in your brain. And so, how do we give you more information and also a way to integrate that information in real time with people who are learning, and also with your clients. And so, eLevate is a nine-month program, so it's not just a workshop weekend. And we go from Mat to Reformer to Cadillac and Ped-o-Pull to the chairs to the barrels, and we layer in each apparatus that Joe gave us based on the spine shapes that exist in Pilates, so that you get a little bit more information each time we meet, but you have time to integrate it and correlate it before you get more. And that way, you're not collecting exercises; you're weaving the system together. You're seeing that how it works. And what's super fun is it takes nine months, but then we do it forever together because eLevate runs January to September. I take one group each time every six to seven weeks. We're meeting for the weekends. We have about 11-ish, sometimes more calls. We have a community where you can chat and work together, and each person who's in eLevate gets five calls one on one with me to kind of go through the assessment that they did, and when you graduate, you're in the alumni group, and so the learning continues. That's when eLevate finally starts. So that's what's really cool. We only can run one a year, and that is on purpose. I know everyone's quite crazy in Q4, so let's not overwhelm ourselves just because we have a desire to learn more information, but that's not what the seasons are doing. And in doing that nine-month program, you get confidence from understanding the information and applying it, and getting feedback-feedback from the other people that you're working with, but feedback from me. Because I'm not here for you to memorize more. I really want you to have a bigger picture, understanding 30,000 foot view before we get so nuanced. Sometimes I think teachers get so focused on the pinky toe when really the issue is the pelvis, right? So how do we actually take in the bigger picture before we get too hyper focused on something? And then how do I create a space where you can be in process but also get feedback so that we can ditch perfectionism and imposter syndrome and create true confidence in being present with the clients that you're teaching.

Lesley Logan 11:09  

So, eLevate is built on the classical Pilates method that Jay Grimes taught to me and Shimoda and Karen Frischmann, all that, and he studied with Joe Pilates and Romana, and so you learn all the exercises, all of them, and you will learn the orders, but bigger picture. It's less about memorizing and more about what do you see that they need, what do you feel that they need, what do you feel you need, what is your intuition telling you, and then what exercises on the other apparatus can we pull in to teach the body the thing that you keep seeing? Because the reality is, loves, I just see so many teachers just repeat the same cue over and over again, expecting the clients to actually remember it. The truth is that they heard you. They either can't do it or didn't understand it. And so, if they can't do it, you can't talk Pilates into a body, it's what Jay always told me, you have to give them the exercise that they need, and that is the heart of eLevate. Most teachers will know what comes next in a sequence or what would flow best, but few can tell why, or why they're choosing an exercise, or why they went that way, or why they're doing that flow. Most of it's like, oh, it's an arm day. Oh, it's an ab day. Oh, it's a hip day. What if it's a body day? And eLevate really does help you understand why an exercise exists, where it sits inside the system for one person versus another, because Pilates isn't linear. How it connects to the exercise around it, and how to progress a client with intention instead of guesswork. And once you can really understand that why, once you can start to see how each exercise supports another, and how we have 500 exercises, yes, but we have one exercise truly that we do 500 different ways. You stop overcomplicating the work, and you start meeting people exactly where they are, and that is the thing that I think eLevate does so well, and what teachers love so much because they're no longer just well. I got five minutes. What are what's something I can do right now? Then what do they need in these next five minutes? A lot of teachers I have discovered in my time really worry about their clients are going to get bored, especially if they're teaching orders, and so they rush the progression. So they start giving them new exercise every single time they come, and they feel pressured to invent something new every week because that's what gets clicks on Instagram, but when you understand the system deeply, you don't really feel the need to invent anything. The method itself is full of so much inspiration, and and you can progress clients with patience and creativity because you can finally trust the material you're standing on because you know it, you understand it, you've eLevated, and I think that's so important, right? When you really do understand where you're taking someone to, you can get them to buy in a lot into their practice, and so they don't. They know they don't need to be entertained. They know they they're getting stronger, and they can compare themselves with themselves because you help them do that. Because here's the deal, every body is different, and some cues that people love that they say I'm saying, other people probably are in the same class going well, that's stupid. Not everyone is going to be at the same pace. Not everyone needs the same correction. eLevate trains you to actually see what's in front of you, and instead of running under the same script on every client, you actually are able to say what is it is that they need to be doing, or see that they can't do what that is, and you can pick an exercise that they need. It's really fun because it really feels like taking a great recipe and then going, "Oh, you know what I feel like today? A little more spice, or a little more savor, or a little more sweet.

Lesley Logan 14:31  

And that's how you make Pilates accessible to more people. By the way, you don't have to water the work down to do it. You can actually just go, oh, wow, I thought they're ready for that. Okay, let's take this exercise over here so we can ready for them for next time, right? So you're also not doing this alone. Like Elevate is actually me talking at you for nine months. That would be silly. It is a live virtual program. You can come to Vegas for trainings if you want. There is a community aspect that is in real time. It's so, so fun. Like the I said, the weekly there's some about 11 calls during it. They're not weekly calls because there's more than 11 weeks, but we have a call and it's where we can really nerd out together and answer questions. You have a practice partner, so you have someone that you are like progressing the whole time. And the thing about your partner is they represent a true client, right? And so you get real feedback in real time and real teaching. There's some really great self-reflections, and you're going to be practicing what you're learning in that group, but also you get to practice it in real time in the sessions that you're doing and the clients that you're teaching, and so you can actually get real life feedback from me that will apply to the world that you're in, right? Which I think is so important. So many times people are taught, "Well, this is what it is, but they're not taught. Okay, so what happens when you work on a real body? How does that work out? And you have my support in those nine months, but then beyond, because when you graduate, unless you hate me, which I doubt you will, I know it sounds egoic, but like we'll have a lot of fun together. I have an alumni group where you can participate and ask me questions for the rest of your Pilates teaching life, as long as you want to, right?

Lesley Logan 16:10  

So here's the structure, it's five live virtual training weekends spread across nine months, and that spacing is so that you can take the time you need to break down the concepts, practice with real clients, come back with questions, go deeper, practice with your partner. So we start with the mat and props, then we go to the Reformer, then we do the Cadillac and Ped-o-Pulls, the Wunda chairs, we do Barrels. By the end, you'll have touched every single piece of equipment that Joe created, and then some. And also, you will understand how to apply this to one-on-ones, to groups, and then also I love that people get from my program is how to teach people at different levels at the same time, so that you can have classes that are more like personalized privates. And what all of that does, what that process does, is it really helps you shift from: Am I doing this right? Am I good enough? Can I really teach this? Who do I think I am? What if my clients get bored? To actually saying, "Oh, I understand the system. I can see what my client needs. I can make decisions at the moment. I trust myself as a teacher. I'm really great as a teacher. I don't need to worry about what they're doing over there because I know what I'm doing over here." And that shift is the entire point. We call it eLevate because I wanted to elevate your teaching, your practice, and most importantly, your connection to this method. So you know I don't believe in waiting until you feel ready before you act the person you want to become, and that's true here. Be It Till You See It, this podcast, everything, including eLevate. You don't build confidence by sitting still and going, "Oh, it's going to arrive. It's going to knock on the door. You build it through practice and feedback and messy action and trying again. eLevate gives you the room to be the teacher you're wanting to become before you fully feel like that person yet. It really is a space where you can be it till you see it. The teacher you're, oh, I wish I was like this. The person you admire. How can you act as if you're that person?

Lesley Logan 18:01  

You do that instead of eLevate. It's a container that helps hold you accountable to doing that over nine months and beyond. So if you have trained to be a teacher, you've done at least the Mat, Reformer, Cadillac, and Wunda chair, and you feel like something's missing in your practice. It feels like you are having some imposter syndrome that you are struggling to feel you're making the impact that you desire, and the reason why you became a teacher, eLevates for you. And what you can do is you can go to take a quiz. It's xxll.co/quiz, and that will actually help you understand if you should bridge into upLift or if you should do the eLevate training with me. I run it as I said a small group once a year, so we do have a wait list. You can go to xxll.co/elevate. You can find out if we have a space open for our next cohort or when the next cohort is going to have a space open. And something you should also know is that again, a lot of people are like, "Oh, I want to be an upLift educator right now as I record this. The only way to be an upLift educator is to have gone through eLevate. At some point, there might be a mini bridge for that, but in this time that I'm recording and this time that I'm creating everything, the eLevate grads are are the people that can be upLift educators, and it's just because I get to spend so much time with them, and I get to know them, and I can understand the type of educator they'd be. So until I can figure out a different path to that, that is how it goes. So if that's something you're wanting to do, then you definitely want to be doing eLevate. xxll.co/elevate. Thank you so much for letting me break down these two things that I am so passionate about: my teacher training program upLift, my mentorship program eLevate. They have a lot of similarities and but differences in who they are for, and the thing that they both provide is strong teachers who believe in what this method is capable of doing. We are so lucky to get to teach Pilates, and I am so grateful that I have two different ways to support people who are interested in having a career as a Pilates instructor and have longevity as a Pilates instructor, and more importantly, change people's lives. Everything I do is so there's more Pilates in bodies, like more bodies doing Pilates. I cannot teach all these people. Not everyone will like me being their teacher. So the more people who are teachers that I can mentor, and the more people who are wanting to become a teacher who can do upLift. That's a dozen to hundreds more teachers out there in this world who can teach clients in their community, and then that goal of mine of more bodies doing Pilates can be achieved as a communal effort. And and I really do mean I mean longevity in this career because what I would hate to see is someone spend thousands of dollars to become a Pilates instructor, and then burn out because they just felt like they weren't good enough. I don't want that. That's why all of it exists. So thank you so much. I cannot wait to hear which one of these programs is right for you or a friend of yours. If you have any questions, let me know. And until next time, Be It Till You See It.

Lesley Logan 21:01  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. 

Brad Crowell 21:43  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 21:48  

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Brad Crowell 21:53  

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Lesley Logan 22:00  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 22:03  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

Lesley Logan vowed she would never create a Pilates teacher training program, until a problem in the industry became impossible to ignore. In this episode of Be It Till You See It, she opens up about why she finally broke her own rule to build upLift. She breaks down how the program bridges the gap between manual-based choreography and teaching the real body in the room, and why a truly comprehensive education gives instructors endless career options, intuitive presence, and a way to ditch imposter syndrome for good.

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In this episode you will learn about:

• The shortage of comprehensively trained Pilates instructors across the industry.
• Why memorizing choreography fails when working with real bodies.
• Shifting from memorized manual scripts to teaching actual people.
• How layered education builds true confidence and teaching intuition.
• Why comprehensive certification gives instructors total schedule freedom.

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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

I remember when I was a brand new teacher, my friend asked me to sub for her, and I said, "Oh, you know, can you tell me about her client?" And she said, "Oh, you know, she's got some asymmetries." Y'all, the person had one leg. My training didn't tell me what to do with someone with one leg, so on the fly, I had to figure it out.

Lesley Logan 0:15  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:59  

All right, Be It, babe. I said I would never do this for years. I, if you asked me if I was going to create a Pilates teacher training program years ago, I'd literally laughed at you. It was no, because also I had eLevate, and before I created eLevate, I had people asking me, "Aren't you going to create your own program?" I said, "Never. I would never. I've already done that." So you can remember, actually, in 2018, somebody, maybe it was 2019, somebody asked me, I was in my studio I remember, so it was before 2020. And she's, you just need, you should have a program. And I said, "Oh no, I was a teacher trainer before. I did that. You know, I'm on the next thing." And then when I created eLevate, as well, I'll never create a teacher training program because I have eLevate and I can just help people in eLevate. I can take the ones who are already certified, and that just felt like enough. And it wasn't enough. And today, I'm going to tell you why.

Lesley Logan 1:44  

So, it was really quite an unexpected beginning. Because here's the truth: I actually really have never, has not been on the vision board. I created a teacher training program for new teachers. People are partially trained. People who want to bridge, not once, not even a little bit. I have been so happy doing what I'm doing. My eLevate mentorship program, which I'll do another episode on with that, is so you have two to compare it by. You know, I was happy mentoring teachers through eLevate. It's been, it grows, it sells out two years in advance. So as far as upLift goes, it's not difficult, and it's also, so more importantly, it's the most fun thing to watch them get better at what they're already doing, and so, you know, in my head, like, that was the plan. This is what I'm going to do. This is my retirement project. I want to help teachers who are already certified, already trained, become the type of teacher that they really want to be. To ditch the imposter syndrome, to deepen the work that they're doing with their clients already. And I, I didn't just wake up one day and decide I'm going to build a 600-hour program called upLift. So that isn't the story that you're hearing. But truthfully, there was just a problem I couldn't ignore.

Lesley Logan 2:51  

So here's what kept happening: I had studio owners that I was coaching with Profitable Pilates who were struggling with the same thing that people who did eLevate were struggling with. We were struggling with the same things that people outside of both of my programs struggling with, which is finding good teachers. Over and over again, all I would hear is, I can't find comprehensively trained teachers. And, you know, I go on tour, I meet people that are going through trainings all the time, and what I kept hearing from them is, why didn't anyone ever tell me this? How come I didn't know that? I'm only able to do my program. I started this program, and then the person quit doing the program, or I moved, and I have to start over. And so, you know, I just felt like there's this hole, maybe not vacuum, but like a hole, that just needed to be dealt with.

Lesley Logan 3:37  

One of my eLevate teachers, she has her own studio, and she was actually running her own program. And she started telling me the exact same thing, but she came at it from a different angle. And this angle is kind of similar to the people who graduated from eLevate who got so busy teaching, so they got everything eLevate wanted. They wanted from eLevate. Now they're too busy, and they wanted to hire teachers, and they're struggling. But this person showed her own studio. I knew her from Profitable Pilates. She did eLevate, so I knew her from there. And she wanted to start a program so that she could teach people from the beginning what eLevate did. And she got through the program halfway through, and she just was, you know, it'd be really great if you could, you could help us out here because truthfully, so many programs that are going on out there, including the one that this person had licensed, they really are good at graduating teachers who know choreography inside and out. But when a real body walks through the door that has a different learning style or a different understanding or different background that doesn't fit the textbook, they kind of freeze or they get frustrated. They don't know really what to do, and it's not that they don't know how to teach. It's as they weren't taught how to work on the fly.

Lesley Logan 4:56  

Most programs and most studios are actually kind of requiring a pre-planned class, and so that flow looks good on paper. In fact, a lot of people are buying flows these days. That flow looks good on paper, but it doesn't work when a regular comes in with a broken arm or a consistent client brings their best friend who's never done Pilates before.

Lesley Logan 5:19  

So, you know, with the problems that the studio owners I coached for their business had, with the problem that eLevate created, which is amazing teachers who are super busy who needed teachers, and just teachers and studios in general needing comprehensively trained teachers who can handle real bodies, I really couldn't dodge the question anymore. I had to sit down and go, is this a problem I can actually solve? If you know me, you know I wasn't about to copy something that already existed. The world actually does not need another version of what's already out there, and I truly mean that. So, I have in a teacher trainer for a program. I have referred people to that program. I think it is really great, and I have done multiple programs. I've actually done three. Two of them were for becoming a teacher, and one was a mentorship program. And so, whenever I am looking at creating something, I really am thinking. Obviously, what I went through had pros and cons, and everything will, right? Everything will. Everything had pros and cons. But what did I like about that, and what didn't I like? And so, I really, when I was asked and propositioned, "Hey, what if you created a program? People know who you are. People want to study and learn with you. And what if we, those who have trained, can teach it? That'd be really great." And I was, okay, but I don't want to just create what exists out there. I don't want you just buying the same thing that you just bought from someone else, but it has my name on it. I'm a classical teacher, so the reality is some of the orders are the same, right? There's not so much variance. So if I was going to do this, and it's not something I'm just going to do in a weekend, this is going to be years of my life. This is, I had to really sit with. If I do this, this is not just, oh, a project that I do and I walk away from. This is part of my job for the rest of however long I'm doing my Pilates life, right? So that means years. I needed to create something that resonated with me, that lit my fire, that really felt something like I would fight for. Not something I was whelmed by, but overlywhelmed by how incredible this can change what is going on there. And it needed to solve the problems I've personally been watching happen.

Lesley Logan 7:20  

And if you're a teacher, listen this. You know what are happening. So, you know, after teaching thousands of clients and thousands of teachers at this point, what are teachers actually missing from their original programs? Because the reality is, is no first program is going to make anyone a master instructor. And also, by the way, you should never be able to tell yourself that you are a master teacher. That's something people say about you. But anyways, no one program can do that. That is just impossible for anyone to expect. But how could I make sure that the instructors were ready, right? So another question I was like, why are many new instructors completely overwhelmed the second they start teaching, or why do they feel like they can only teach groups, or why do they feel like they only teach privates? What is going on in the trainings that people feel like they're very siloed into something, and they don't have the confidence to try out the other thing. And what do I wish every single teacher understood before they ever step foot in front of a client? What do they really need to know? Because yes, people want to become Pilates instructors as fast as possible. These programs are an investment. Students need teachers two months ago, but how do we make sure that we give them information in a way that also allows them to teach a real client and not be memorized in a manual? I really, how do I make a program that isn't a bunch of people who sound like me, but sound like them teaching the work that I've been so lucky to have learned from the people that I've been so lucky to train under?

Lesley Logan 8:40  

So, with those questions, upLift kind of started from that. No business plan, but with a list of problems I couldn't stop thinking about because I have done eLevate for so long. I know what teachers are loving out of eLevate that they didn't get from their first programs because I travel the world teaching teachers of all backgrounds, of all styles, of all levels. What is it that they have been frustrated by? How do I make sure that that's solved in the first program? And then, what do clients actually need in a teacher? What are clients thinking that they need? But what are our clients actually needing? Right. And so that's kind of what I did. I really sat with that, and then I got even deeper. Right. I got really deep because it can't just be, I can't just pull from Pilates. Nothing that I do ever just pulls from the one thing. Joe Pilates didn't do that. He pulled from so many walks of life to bring his work together. So the truth is, is that the years of teaching really led me to put upLift together. While I only, you know, in the last couple of years sat with these questions, it's the years of teaching, the years of experience that have really helped me. So I think it's important that you know upLift wasn't an idea that hit me in the shower. As I already mentioned, I denied wanting, I denied doing it multiple times because it just was not that it wasn't the right time. I didn't have the right experience with the knowledge that I have, and the understanding, and the time to, you know, you know, when lightning in a bottle, everything has to come together, and so the these different things had to intersect, and that couldn't happen in 2018, that couldn't even happen in 2021, and that really couldn't even happen in 2023. It wasn't until after I finished my flashcards that I had the space in my brain to go, okay, what is next, right? So I have been lucky, you know, teaching thousands of classes and teaching all over the world in rooms of full of people who moved differently, thought differently, needed different things from me as a teacher. Learning from Jay Grimes, who taught me that Pilates is never about memorizing sequence, even though we do use orders.

Lesley Logan 10:37  

It was learning from every mentor who's really came before him, and, and, and, and in my life, I really thought, how do I put this together in a way that helps these people who will come through upLift, who want to become Pilates instructors, who have done partial trainings, or want to bridge into classical? How do we make sure that they're not just memorizing, but they actually get the gems and juice that Joe Pilates passed to Jay and Jay passed to me, and then the people in between have also given me and inspired me, so that we can keep Pilates in Pilates and have teachers start from the beginning with this information, not have to find it after years of being a teacher and kind of getting frustrated. Because here's the thing: Pilates is more than choreography, and that really is the thing that changed everything for me, and it's how I built this whole program around it. Because my first training program, you know, was based on exercise levels, and, you know, memorize all the different. I mean, you have to learn the names and the choreography and everything, of course. But it was really much: this is the beginner order, this is intermediate order, this is the advanced order, and, you know, you say it like this and do it like this, and it looks like this. And then I got to another program that also had levels, but didn't have a beginner 100 and advanced 100. They just had the 100, and so that shaved a lot and answered a lot for me. But it still felt like I was memorizing orders and memorizing exercises. And it wasn't until I got to Jay where it was, well, what do they need? What are they doing well? And then, you know, there is going to be ugly Pilates, but never dangerous. And how do we make sure that we're actually using Pilates to help them, not our words? Because Pilates is about understanding why exercise exists in the first place.

Lesley Logan 12:16  

As a teacher, not taking what you've memorized and putting that in the class, but what are we actually looking for as a client moves, and what does that client need? You know how do we how do we look at them today and go, how did that look yesterday, and ooh that's different than yesterday, good or bad. How do we do that? How do we be so present that we can teach the body that's actually in front of us and not the body from the manual, right? Most of the people we'll teach are not teachers. So how do we teach them they're the human that they are, who is deserving of our attention and our time and our thoughtfulness, and and bringing Pilates to them, not in a watered down fashion, but in a way that is accessible and achievable and supportive towards their goals. Because every single client who walks through that door is actually different, every single one, and if all you know is choreography or even orders, you're gonna freeze the moment that they're they don't match the script.

Lesley Logan 13:09  

I remember when I was a brand new teacher, my friend asked me to sub for her, and I said, "Oh, you know, can you tell me about her client?" And she said, "Oh, you know, she's got some asymmetries." Y'all, the person had one leg. My training didn't tell me what to do with someone with one leg, so on the fly I had to figure it out, and I'm grateful for that experience every single day because it really got me out of the textbook training that I was given. But what if I didn't have to have a freakout moment? What if I could have the confidence to go, tell me more about you? Right? I think one, that client would have had they had a great workout. I think they would have had a better workout. I think they would have wanted to work out with me again. You know, so, so I really want that for teachers because, you know, you don't become a Pilates instructor because you kind of like Pilates. You become a Pilates instructor because you love it.

Lesley Logan 13:53  

And I find some training programs can really take the fire out of someone because instead of it being about, you know, how are we empowering people to move their bodies and have and balance their imbalances and achieve these goals in their life, it becomes about what shouldn't they do? What should they do? You know, it treats people like robots, and they're just not. So, as I was curating what I was going to do, one of our past guests, Claire Sparrow, actually was, "Oh, have you read this book?" And I started going down a rabbit hole of what is the science of learning, because it's one thing to put together a program that teaches people Joe's intentions and orders. It's another thing to make sure they actually learn them. And I think this is what's also missing from most programs, but our education systems in general, which is actually how do people learn, not just kinesthetic, auditory, visual, blah blah blah. No, how do people actually retain the information? And this is why upLift is built the way that it is, not as an information dump, but as transformation. I really did build the material and the education hours around into being repetitive and, you know, just say it like I do. In fact, it's actually built on how retention actually happens. There's layered education. I can't give you the advanced stuff without you having a solid foundation. But also, how do we make sure you see the full big picture and that you see it as a system? It's been really radical and fun for me to curate that process, and because honestly, there's not a single program out there that's doing it the way that I'm doing it, and that's because few people know that there's a way that we can train you to learn and to take it from memorizing and repeating, parroting is another word, or narrating to teaching intuitively, even though you'll have new skills, so the intuition will still be new, but you'll have a bigger understanding, the bigger picture, so that you know we can actually progress people safely, but not just safely, but purposefully, right?

Lesley Logan 15:55  

So, what I'm really excited about is that because it's layered education built on a foundation that is solid, we can actually practically apply the information, and we don't just do it sitting in a classroom because that doesn't make you a teacher just sitting there memorizing. We actually do the work together, and there's this really fun hands-on experience. In fact, within the first couple hours of education, you are teaching each other, and I'm so proud of how that is designed. I'm really, really excited, and that's what helps with confidence because confidence is something you get from finishing a course. If it was, we wouldn't have imposter syndrome in this industry. Confidence is something that you get because you built up this knowledge over time. You did it. You did the reps. You got the feedback. You got the real understanding, and so you actually do feel ready. You know, what is confidence? It's feeling ready. And like I said, no one program can make you a master instructor, but your first program should certainly make you sure you feel ready, feel confident to teach this stuff, and that you understand it. And so that's the difference of what I was. How do I make sure that we're just not doing another classical teacher training program that looks a little bit like all the others, but is slightly different because it's my name and my branding. No, it needed to be different than what is out there because what is out there is not creating analytical present teachers. Unfortunately, it's taking a lot of great teachers' potential and watering them down into kind of, is our class full, and that's why we're losing teachers. That's why they're burning out because the focus isn't on, are they impacting people, but, you know, it's class full. So upLift is a comprehensive teacher training program for new teachers, partially trained teachers, and people who would like to bridge into classical, or maybe you train classically but you want to learn the way that I'm doing it. But it's truly for people first and foremost, you are brand new and you want to become a Pilates instructor because of the way a lot of programs are working out there.

Lesley Logan 17:47  

You may have done one or two trainings or some trainings, and so upLift is still for you. A comprehensive education actually gives you, as a teacher, options. So, without a comprehensive training, you will likely find yourself driving between five studios to try to piece together enough hours to make it work. This is what happens to a lot of people in a lot of cities. They are running around town. Think of it. I used to work at a gym, and the group fitness instructors who taught HIIT and spin and yoga and blah blah blah. They were only maybe working 20-ish hours a week, but they had to drive around town to six different studios, sometimes three studios in one day. So what a weird schedule that is, just to cobble this together. Whereas when you're a comprehensively trained teacher, you just have options. You can teach one-on-ones, semi-privates, and group classes. So hopefully, you can find yourself in a place where you can actually teach hours that are back to back, you know. If you only get trained on the mat, then you can only teach mat classes. There's only so many mat classes in a community that are at times that you're going to want to teach. No one wants to teach at 7 a.m. and 7 p.m. That's annoying. If you only have mat and Reformer, you're limited there. When you have a comprehensive training, you actually can teach in fully equipped studios, and you can teach in mat only and Reformer only. So you have these options to put together a career that works for you, to put together a schedule that fits your needs and your goals.

Lesley Logan 19:08  

You know, I truly believe that everyone's Pilates business can actually meet them where they are and where they want to grow if they are given the opportunity to have a comprehensive education. So this program isn't about just making sure you can teach more hours because some of you only want to teach five hours, some people want to teach 15 hours. This program is really designed so you can actually teach whatever hours you want, make the money you desire, but do it better, right? Do it impactfully, do it purposefully, do it present, and not overwhelm, and that's what I'm really excited about. So, what is a comprehensive training? Let me explain that to you. It means that while we teach things in modules of equipment, you cannot just pay for one of the modules. You cannot just take upLift Reformer or upLift Mat. You have to do the entire upLift program to do it, and because you're doing that. You're actually going to see the entire system work together. I'm very excited about how the student workbook allows you to be constantly learning about the mat, even when we're on the barrels, and that is the intentionality of how I put the program together, so that you see them as a system and not like, well, this is my barrels and this is this. So if you've never done a training, you don't know anything differently, so you won't know. But what I see out there, you do your mat one, your mat two, your mat three, your Reformer one, your Reformer two, one Reformer three, and so you only see things as in that piece of apparatus versus this is a full system. It was created together. There are exercises you can't do in Reformer three because you need Barrels, right? So we got rid of the levels. We got rid of the ability for you to just buy things piecemeal, and instead you are learning the full Pilates system in a way that allows you to dictate and choose and understand when someone is ready for another exercise. So I will be honest with you about something like this. This did not happen very fast. It probably feels fast to you because I wasn't very public about it, but I've been saying this idea for a really long time, and really getting as much information, and contemplating, and chewing on it, and swirling it around, and dreaming about it. You know, because before I did anything, I really did question whether I should be doing this. Does it need to be me? And brainstormed a lot and put some things together because it's so important to me.

Lesley Logan 21:21  

Since the day that I started managing studios, which was six months after I started teaching, I saw how sad and devastated it can be to tell someone interviewing for a job why I couldn't hire them because the training that they did was not good enough. That's why I wrote my book Profitable Pilates. By the way, I wrote that because I wanted to equip future teachers before they paid money, before they signed contracts, to understand truly what they were getting themselves into. So when I put this together, I was very thoughtful in that I am the person who has been telling people what questions to ask before they sign up for a program. So I need to make sure that if I'm going to do another program, it's going. It's because there is a hole, because there is a problem, you know. Yes, it's classical, and that's different than what a lot of people are doing. But there are other classical programs out there. So how is this going to be different? How is this going to make sure that it really does help, not just in theory but actual reality? How does this benefit not just the teachers who are going to take this program, but the studio owners who they're going to work for, but most importantly, the clients who are going to learn from them and take from them, and so upLift wasn't built quickly, but it was very much built on purpose and one decision at a time with lots of community outreach. Where I talked to a lot of different potential people who would either be teaching it or hiring people from it or doing it to make sure that I had their worries and concerns in mind because they have different ones than I do, and so we have beta tested this program as well. As I record this, I am leading the beta group, and so you might be hearing this when they've already graduated. But I wanted to make sure that this program would work before I took any educators' time and any students' time and money, I really needed to make sure. Okay, this is it. Looks really good, and I really believe in it, but is it really good? And I didn't want it just to be something on spreadsheets. It looked really good. I really wanted to be really good in real life, and so I actually put together a beta group to ensure that any type of person who might fall into the upLift program, I could see how their journey would go. So I have someone who is a comprehensively trained teacher doing this program. I have someone who has done a mat and Reformer training and a yoga training, but never a full comprehensive training in this program. I have someone who has taken classical Pilates for years doing this program, and I have someone who's been doing hot Pilates and contemporary Pilates for years, doing this program, and then I have someone who's done one class doing this program. So I wanted to make sure that the different ways people fall into a Pilates teacher training could be seen, and that all those people could be successful. Because if only the bridge person is successful, then I didn't create a teacher training program for new teachers. I created another mentorship program, and then I also have someone who's remote learning to see, is this something that someone could do if they aren't living near an actual cohort, and how does that look, and what would that be like? And then in the beta group, I also have three people I have trained sitting there watching it to see if what I'm seeing is what they're seeing. Are we seeing growth? Are we seeing them develop on their own in their skill sets? What are the hangups? What's going on? Is that where they should be at this time? A lot of brainstorming and working together so that it's not my opinions, but it is actually about very much a community-based program. So that when people start taking upLift, you know, in 2027 and beyond, we know that if you've only ever taken a megaformer class, this might be weird. It's going to be different, but you can be successful if this is what you want. And if you've taken years of training, you can be successful.

Lesley Logan 24:58  

And if you did someone else's program, you're not too confused. All of that stuff is so key. So it's really been a be it till you see it in action. If you think about it, and I just want to say, you don't wait for anything to be perfect before you start. You build, you listen, you improve, and then you build some more. And that's what we've been doing with this beta program. And the workbook is basically done at the time I'm recording this, but the changes that I'm still making will be ready for the cohorts, and it's because I did it with the ideas in mind, and then I let them use it, and I got to see, how are they using it? Oh, they're using it like that instead of like this. So instead of it being like this, I'm gonna rearrange it like that, and so that it can, by the time it gets to you, there's no such thing as perfect ever, but it is freaking great, and it will support those of you who are wanting to become a truly comprehensively trained teacher who understands that if Pilates has made it 100 years, how did it do that, and how do we make sure it stays continues for 100 years, right? And so, so it's been really fun. It's been really fun.

Lesley Logan 25:59  

So, bigger picture, here's what I want you to walk away with. One, if you're just excited about upLift and you're excited what I'm doing, and you're just here to support me and cheer me on, thank you, thank you for listening to this whole story. Thanks for listening to the whole journey. I really am grateful. If you are wanting to become a Pilates instructor, I want you to know that upLift is here to help you become a thoughtful, empathetic, present Pilates instructor who teaches not just what you should be doing, but why you should be doing it, understands the bigger picture for the clients and for the goals. Teachers who are curious from the outset, instead of just getting comfortable in repetition and having a script, teachers who actually can observe the body in front of them and can in real time adjust a session to make sure it's meeting that body's needs in real time, and then teachers who will keep learning long after they've trained because they're going to change all these clients' lives because of it. And you're and you're learning. By the way, when I say continue to learn, I feel like I learn every single time I teach, and that is because the curiosity I bring to every session, I learn every single time I teach, and that's what I want for upLift grads. And that's how I created the experience, how I created the workshops, how I created the homework. Everything is created, is done intentionally to enhance and support curiosity, and I'm really, really excited about that.

Lesley Logan 27:28  

So, if you are someone who is interested in being a Pilates instructor, this is for you. If you've done a partial training, upLift is for you. If you've done a comprehensive training, and you do not want to wait for eLevate, upLift is for you. upLift is in-person comprehensive training that really does prepare you for the real teaching world and allows you to have as many options as possible when it comes to teaching. You're not just a Reformer teacher, a mat teacher. You are a Pilates instructor who can adapt to wherever it is that you're going to grow. But for those who are comprehensively trained, you'll probably want to listen to the eLevate episode and then compare. We also have a quiz that you can take to see if you're an upLift student or you're an eLevate student. And I just want to say, upLift wasn't born to because I wanted to create a Pilates program. There are enough, as I said. It's born because of years of teaching people like you and the teachers that have gone through my program of observing what's going on out in the Pilates community and also in the spaces that I'm invited, listening to clients, listening to teachers, listening to studio owners, and asking better questions. Okay, how many people want to do in training? No. How do we make sure Pilates continues to impact the world? Right. How do we do that?

Lesley Logan 28:56  

How do we do that with new teachers and existing teachers? How do we do that? How do we make not just a goal achieve, but change the lives of everyone who is touched by upLift? Whether it's a client, a teacher, a studio owner, and upLift is created because when you actually understand Pilates, it's not just choreography, but the why underneath all of it. You actually stop teaching just exercises and you start teaching people, and that's the kind of teacher that we are building with upLift, and I really hope that if you are wanting to be that kind of teacher, that you join us. We have cohorts all over the world. You can actually see where our existing cohorts are. Our educators are on my website, and if you would like to get more information, see if upLift is right for you, take the quiz. Go to xxll.co/quiz, xxll.co/quiz. You can also go to xxll.co/uplift to get more information on the program and see where all of our educators are. And if you don't see an educator near you, know that there is in some cases a remote option for learning. There's some things we have to talk about, and I can help you see if that if you're a candidate for that. I can also let you know if we'll have an educator coming to your area soon or not.

Lesley Logan 30:13  

Our goal, like I said, is really to support those who truly desire to teach Pilates. You know, if that's what you want, upLift is for you. So thank you, my loves. Thank you for listening to me talk through how upLift was created, what it does, and something that I have not said is the actual logistics. And if Lesley, how many years, how long? All of that information is on our site, but so quick and dirty, It is 150 hours of education, 15 train-your-eye-meetings, 600 practical hours. So it is one of the most robust education programs that's out there. Most programs are about 450 practical hours. They actually put your education hours in those 450 hours, so you have less time learning from them. And I just think that's unfortunate. You really do need to be at a space where they actually do not count the education time in those practical hours, so that you have time with your mentor, your educator, and then time to practice and to take away a single practice hour is unfortunate because it does. There's a compoundingness that happens, and I'm very intentional about that, and I'm very excited. And so it's a nine-to-12-month program, depending on how many hours a week you can dedicate to your practical hours. But there is a way to get done in nine months, and if not 12, and by the way, most things take four years plus. Imagine where you'd be in less than a year if you do upLift. It'll happen faster than you think. So let me know if you have any questions. Feel free to reach out. And until next time, Be It Till You See It.

Lesley Logan 31:43  

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Brad Crowell 32:26  

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Lesley Logan 32:31  

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Brad Crowell 32:35  

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Lesley Logan 32:42  

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Brad Crowell 32:46  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

It's Fuck Yeah Friday.

Brad Crowell 0:01  

Fuck yeah!

Lesley Logan 0:02  

Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:48  

Hey, Be It babe. How are you? Happy middle of October. I am in Cambodia, and I am. I think I'm about to start my retreat. I just know that I am. Yes, I'm starting my retreat in a couple of days. Oh my lanta, my goodness! This month is wild. I've started it in Vegas, then the next week I was in Sacramento. Now I'm in Cambodia. I'll be in Cambodia for the next FYF, and then I will be home. And I'm only home for a couple of weeks before it's China and it's India and it's just a lot to be grateful for.

Lesley Logan 1:20  

But first, happy Fuck Yeah Friday! This is where we get to be humans together. We get to celebrate what you are doing, what's inspired you, what's going on in your life, and a little win of mine and a little mantra. And then you get on your way. I hope you're loving the solo episodes we've been doing. If there's any topics you want me to be hitting or some guests that you would like me to be reaching out to, please go to the beitpod.com/questions. It's a catch-all for your wins, your suggestions, and things like that. So yeah. So, anyways, before I get into my win, I get to take a moment to share what I've had with what I'm a little bit tired of, and I wanted to say I'm recording this after all the fucking most amazing people are dying. All the most amazing people are fucking dying, and the shitty people are not, or we're being told they're not dead, but I know they're dead, and it's just really annoying. It's really annoying, and I'm just why are all the good ones going? Why does it always happen like that? You know, so I'm just sad about it because I mean that's beautiful. As I got to relive some of the things about those people, I'm going to hear more of their stories. I didn't know. I'm talking about specifically about Dolly Parton. I listened to really great episode about her whole life, and of course, I knew a lot of things. I didn't know everything. And what a generous, amazing woman she could have been a billionaire, and she did not die that way. She died as someone who just generously gave without questions, and I just love that so fucking much. And I just, you know, I have a sticker in my office that says, "What would Dolly do? And I just really think that we need to all be thinking like that. But anyway, other good people are dying too, and you know. So I'm just mad because I wish assholes were.

Lesley Logan 2:52  

Anyways, my win, since you listened to me vent, I restarted my morning pages. I have been up down, up down with my morning pages, and I really truly love them. If you haven't read the Artist Way, it's really great. My friend Claire and I decided to read Julia Cameron's second book, and she's got these creative walks, and she has tools you need morning pages. Oh, the morning pages are so hard for me. The reason I'm tormented with them is because I live somewhere where it's very climatic. In the summers, you just want to get it's not going to get any cooler the later you wait to go on your walk, so you just keep going out earlier and earlier, and so I do them in the winter, in the fall, in the spring, but not the summer, and you know that's just frustrating.

Lesley Logan 3:26  

So I found a way to do my morning pages every morning on my walks, and I'm so proud of myself, and I'm really loving it because all the anxiety that I wake up with is gone within two blocks of my walk, and I can just get it out in my head, and then if I have action steps, I can see that. But it's not about being action-oriented; it's just dusting the curtains, you know, hitting the rug, getting things out of the, getting things off my mind, so I can focus on what's so important. So I'm really, really excited about that, and it's been really, really wonderful. And I would just say, in this the year of our Lord, 2026. Find a way to do your morning pages. Find a way to get stuff off your head as early as possible in your life.

Lesley Logan 4:06  

Okay, now a win of yours, @pilatesandrea, "Had an amazing Teacher Lab yesterday, and my weekly schedule is consistently full." Well, that's because you're amazing, @pilatesandrea. You are amazing, and your stickers are also so fucking wonderful. I love them so much, and they were such a huge hit on the tour. So thank you for being so generous with them, and thank you for sharing this amazing win. I mean, your schedule is full, because the impact you have on people is just so beautiful. So I'm so grateful to call you a friend. So that's it. Send your wins in, my loves, to beitpod.com/questions. You can hear your win when you need it.

Lesley Logan 4:40  

And here is your mantra for the weekend. I am worthy of infinite compassion. I am worthy of infinite compassion. Be It, babe, you are worthy of infinite compassion. Until next time, go Be It Till You See It.

Lesley Logan 4:55  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 5:37  

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Lesley Logan 5:42  

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Brad Crowell 5:47  

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Lesley Logan 5:54  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 5:57  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

Are you constantly working against your own goals, or is your brain just trying to keep you safe? In this episode of Be It Till You See It, Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell break down their top takeaways from high-performance coach Brad Bizjack. They unpack why perfectionism is a deeply embedded identity rather than a bad habit, challenge the myth of self-sabotage, and reveal what burnout is actually a sign of. Lesley and Brad share how swapping your daily to-do list for result-driven targets and practicing daily self-celebration can rewire your subconscious identity to unlock alignment-driven success.

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• The importance of not waiting to prioritize your mental health.
• Why perfectionism is embedded in your subconscious identity.
• The reframe of perfectionism as a fixed identity, not a habit.
• What burnout actually reveals about living out of alignment.
• The reason self-sabotage is physically impossible for your brain.

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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

Perfection is simply the fear that I'm not enough. But if you're priming yourself to celebrate all the things that you are doing and you and who you are as a person, you're gonna realize you're fucking enough.

Lesley Logan 0:11  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:54  

Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap of my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the elevating convo I have with Brad Bizjack. I mean, you just think that there are other words for Brad. He is on a different whole vibe. 

Brad Crowell 1:07  

I was gonna say plane, so maybe elevating does work. 

Lesley Logan 1:10  

Elevating, he's in a different sphere. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, you will want to listen to it after you listen to this for sure, or you're gonna want to join his amazing program. You can sign up right now for free this week because I do it every year. It's just so fun. His, it's just his, it's just amazing.

Lesley Logan 1:28  

So today is, we'll get into that later, but today is October 15th, and it's the International Day of Rural Women. International Day of Rural Women champions the essential contributions of women in agriculture and rural development every October 15th. This day recognizes their tireless work in food security, economic stability, and environmental sustainability. Join global efforts to empower rural women, advocate for their rights, and support initiatives that foster growth and well-being. It focuses on advocacy and support rather than commercial deals. Organizations like UN Women, the Food Agriculture Organization (FAO), and Heifer?

Brad Crowell 2:05  

Heifer.

Lesley Logan 2:06  

Heifer. No way.

Brad Crowell 2:07  

Yeah.

Lesley Logan 2:08  

No way. It's Heifer International.

Brad Crowell 2:10  

It is. I donate to them.

Lesley Logan 2:12  

You do?

Brad Crowell 2:13  

Yeah, have been for a very long time.

Lesley Logan 2:15  

Okay. Well, how did you find out about them?

Brad Crowell 2:18  

You know, I started talking to some people.

Lesley Logan 2:19  

All right. Often launched fundraising campaigns and awareness drives. So contact any one of them if you want to support women like this. That's really cool. You know, you'd be surprised how rural women everywhere are making this entire universe go around. The clothes you wear, the food you eat, the things you buy, they are often, you know, like there's just so much that is being in there. They need our support. We do go to Cambodia a lot, and one of the things that women there in the rural area needs, if they're not educated, they don't really have resources for if they're in a terrible situation. So it's really important that you, if you have time, and if you don't have time, if you have money, and if you don't have money, if you have friends, that you find something, a cause like this that can motivate you to share it in a way that is accessible to you, because this is how we this is how we make the world a better place.

Lesley Logan 3:12  

All right, so upLift. Oh my God, you guys! If you're on the wait list for students, you know where we are starting our first cohorts for upLift, my Pilates teacher training program for new teachers. If you're not, you probably don't know, and I can't tell you now because we are in the future. We are in the past, and we can't tell you in this moment.

Lesley Logan 3:35  

We're in both, the future and the past.

Lesley Logan 3:37  

We are. 

Brad Crowell 3:38  

Wrap your head around that. 

Lesley Logan 3:39  

We are in the future in this moment for ourselves. But while you listen to this, we are in the past. And so, if you or someone you know wants to become a Pilates instructor, then I want you to go to xxll.co/uws, and we will let you know where our cohorts are and where you can do it, even in person. There's a few people who are doing remote learning options, and so I'm just so excited about this program, aren't you, Brad? I'm excited.

Brad Crowell 4:01  

I think it's going to change Pilates.

Lesley Logan 4:03  

We're changing the industry. I think so.

Brad Crowell 4:05  

Yeah.

Lesley Logan 4:06  

I think so. I think so. There was just on Beyond Your Reformer. She just put a compilation together of all these people saying what is wrong with teacher training programs and upLift literally solves all those problems, just inherently.

Brad Crowell 4:17  

We, I would love to see that. I know that'd be really cool.

Lesley Logan 4:20  

I know. I should give that to you.

Brad Crowell 4:21  

Yeah, you should give that to me.

Lesley Logan 4:23  

Let's make a note. Let's make a note. We won't know what that says in a second. Okay. 

Brad Crowell 4:28  

All good. if you're here.

Lesley Logan 4:29  

And you're new.

Brad Crowell 4:30  

And you're new

Lesley Logan 4:31  

or not

Brad Crowell 4:31  

or not or you're old.

Lesley Logan 4:34  

Well, don't call our listeners old.

Brad Crowell 4:35  

Don't forget to check out our Pilates flashcards. Go over to OPC.me/flashcards, where every single purchase supports the Nevada SPCA.

Lesley Logan 4:44  

I was just there.

Brad Crowell 4:45  

Yeah.

Lesley Logan 4:46  

I dropped off some jewelry for their jewelry show. I convinced them to let me go upstairs and organize all of the jewelry for the next show with all the free time I have. But I just, I know that it's, I just want to help you make more money, and I just want to merchandise it better. I'm so excited. So if you're in Las Vegas in November, there is a jewelry show, and we're talking everything is like selling for $3 and $10 because they won't let me price it, but it will be merchandised by me. Okay, if you want our posters, you can go pick them up at OPC.me/posters. They print where you are, so the shipping is not terrible. Next month, I am in China, you guys. I actually have, I think I have a link for you. Hold on.

Brad Crowell 5:25  

We have a link for the China Summit?

Lesley Logan 5:27  

I just saw who I'm teaching with. Yes, we do have a link. We do have a link. Hold on. I was just on it, and then my phone reset. Here we go. cpisummit.com. Yes, you can launch it. You can read it in English or Mandarin. I just saw the teachers who are there, and it's me

Brad Crowell 5:46  

Pulse it up

Lesley Logan 5:46  

and a few friends. So come, it's going to be a lot of fun. I'm going to have a I'm going to have a great time. It's my first time in China. Well, not my first time in China, but my first time teaching in China.

Brad Crowell 5:56  

Yeah.

Lesley Logan 5:56  

Yeah. So come, and then I'm going to be in Goa. You definitely want to do that. So if you are looking for an excuse to get a travel write-off this year, then go to xxll.co/pot to pick your spot for Goa. It is a limited-spot event because you actually go for the whole weekend. It's like a resort in Goa. Have you looked at pictures in Goa? Even if you're not going to come, look up Goa, India, because you're going to be so jealous of everyone who is going with me. And then our winter tour is announced. 

Brad Crowell 6:30  

Yes, it's the 15th. So it's been up for two weeks, and y'all tickets are going fast.

Lesley Logan 6:35  

Yes, and we're in the past and future at the same time, as you already heard. So I can't tell you where we're going yet. No, we cannot. 

Brad Crowell 6:43  

But here's what we can tell you: we can tell you that we're going from Las Vegas to Boston, to Miami.

Lesley Logan 6:49  

Yeah.

Brad Crowell 6:49  

And back to LV.

Lesley Logan 6:51  

So if you're somewhere on that route,

Brad Crowell 6:52  

Stuck on LA.

Lesley Logan 6:54  

I don't know. Yeah, so go. 

Brad Crowell 6:55  

So we've been six years.

Lesley Logan 6:56  

We've been six years. Go to opc.me/tour to see where we're actually going because we are currently in Cambodia and we have no idea. That's right. 

Brad Crowell 7:03  

We are currently in Cambodia right now because we're hosting our annual retreat there, and we want you to join us next year. There are limited number of seats, y'all. So go to get yourself on the wait list. Go to crowsnestreets.com crowsnestretreats.com. Add yourself to the wait list and come join us next year. We will be opening the doors for that in January, so make sure you're on the list. Do not wait; it will sell out. Last year it sold out in three weeks. This year, it's going to sell out faster.

Lesley Logan 7:30  

Not only does it sell out in three weeks. But zero people gave up their spots, so there wasn't anyone from the wait-wait list. So you you just want to be ready. It's going to be (inaudible). 

Brad Crowell 7:39  

We often have people bump or drop, and this time no, everyone is coming and very excited about that. It's going to be an epic trip. Actually, it's happening right now. It is an epic trip. 

Lesley Logan 7:49  

It's an epic trip. We're in it. We're having the best time. 

Brad Crowell 7:52  

We are in it. Let's do this.

Lesley Logan 7:54  

All right, I'm going to get into our charity of the week. So, who are we talking? Who are we highlighting today?

Brad Crowell 7:59  

Okay, the 10th is World Mental Health Day today, I know is the 15th, but the 10th was World Mental Health Day, and the charity we wanted to highlight for this week is Mental Health America. MHA is the oldest mental health nonprofit in the country. They've been at this since 1909.

Lesley Logan 8:14  

What we had mental health support in 1909.

Brad Crowell 8:18  

1909.

Lesley Logan 8:18  

That's when you guys they were calling women hysterical as a disease. Okay. Well, I'm grateful for the person who was so progressive in 1909. 

Brad Crowell 8:26  

Well, here's what we love about MHA. Their whole approach is built around the idea that you shouldn't have to wait until you're in crisis to pay attention to your mental health. They call it before stage four. The same way you wouldn't wait until cancer is stage four to go to the doctor. You shouldn't wait until your mental health is at a breaking point to do something about it. They offer free online screening tools at their website where you can take a confidential self-assessment for things such as depression, anxiety, PTSD, and more. Millions of people use these every single year. They also run over 140 affiliates across the country providing direct support, education, and advocacy. 

Lesley Logan 9:03  

This is incredible.

Brad Crowell 9:04  

It's pretty amazing. I was reading this, thinking this is amazing. They've earned a four-star Charity Navigator rating, and they've been accredited by the BBB Wise Giving Alliance. If you want to check it, check in on yourself or someone you care about, go to mhanational.org. 

Lesley Logan 9:22  

This would have been really helpful a couple years ago with a family member.

Brad Crowell 9:25  

Yeah, well, it was available. We just didn't know, so that's why we're doing exactly this, highlighting these charities. Go to mhanational.org and take a free screening yourself. It only takes a few minutes, and it might be the most important few minutes you spend this week.

Lesley Logan 9:39  

That is why I kind of like this little segment that we do. I'm sure people wonder why we do it, but the reality is, is that I will never forget one of our first guests we ever had on this podcast. She was such a charity advocate. She was someone who donated a lot of her time on different things, and she had the money, so she was part of a lot of them. And I just, but what if you don't have the money? But well, you have time, and if you don't have time, you have friends. And I have a hobby with a charity because I needed one, and it's working out really, really well. But a lot of charities they do, I guess they need money, but they also just need awareness

Brad Crowell 10:11  

yeah

Lesley Logan 10:11  

to keep going because it could be that you have you might not have the time or the money to support them, but you might have a friend who needs them, and then you or you might have a friend who is sitting on a inheritance they don't know what to do with it. So you know, I think this is really never know, never know. I mean, hey, we're two dinks. You know, where's my money going? So whatever I can't take with me has got to go somewhere. So I hope that this helps you. 

Brad Crowell 10:34  

Just dinking around.

Lesley Logan 10:35  

I hope that this either helps you with advocacy that you're wanting to do, or at least supporting your friends who might need something. Because I have an episode coming up with a psychologist, and it is very difficult to get help when you need it. I had no idea about this. This is really cool. Yeah, MHA. Because also, are you? I was talking to one of my girlfriends today. She's, "Lesley, I couldn't decide if it was if I was having anxiety, if I was depressed, or if it was perimenopause." This quiz could have helped. 

Brad Crowell 11:02  

This quiz could have helped.

Lesley Logan 11:03  

Anyways, all right. Well, I love this. I hope you guys like it too. If you have any recommendations of charities you'd like us to highlight, please send it to beitpod.com/questions, or you can text us to 310-905-5534.

Brad Crowell 11:14  

Yeah, and I just wanted to take a quick second before we go on. If the show gives you something every single week, here's how you can give back. Come join us at onlinepilatesclasses.com. It's what funds this podcast, and it's Pilates for everybody, mat through full apparatus with weekly form feedback from real teachers. So you're never practicing alone.

Lesley Logan 11:35  

Yeah.

Brad Crowell 11:35  

Go to onlinepilatesclasses.com.

Lesley Logan 11:37  

We're pretty amazing.

Brad Crowell 11:38  

Yeah. Come join the community. It's gonna be awesome. All right, so let's jump into it. Let's talk about Mr. Brad Bizjack. 

Lesley Logan 11:46  

We love Brad.

Brad Crowell 11:48  

Every time I listen to him speak, I'm just floored. And not only is he very eloquent in what he says, actually, his eloquence allows him to talk about challenging topics in such a kind way that it amazes me.

Lesley Logan 12:04  

In a way that also challenges you, because sometimes he has said some things around. Oh, but he says it in a way you're like, yes.

Brad Crowell 12:11  

Yeah.

Lesley Logan 12:11  

But you know, when people say, "I don't know, what (inaudible). You're right. And then he tells an amazing story. I do know. I probably do know. So I just, I'm obsessed. I feel like he's an annual guest. 

Brad Crowell 12:21  

Every time I listen, I'm amazed. So Brad Bizjack is a personal development expert and certified high-performance coach dedicated to helping high achievers unlock deep alignment-driven success. Rejecting the classic trap of have-do-be psychology, Brad teaches a powerful be-do-have model that reprograms the limiting beliefs and toxic thought patterns, operating in the blind spots of our own minds. Having trained over 80,000 people globally, 80,000, he specializes in

Lesley Logan 12:54  

He's in states with less people.

Brad Crowell 12:57  

Yeah, he specializes in transforming high-level ethereal mindset concepts into strategic daily practices, right? And I think that's, that's part of it too. The eloquence is he makes it seem so accessible instead of this, "Well, just feel better about yourself" crap. He actually makes it tangible and relatable.

Lesley Logan 13:15  

I couldn't agree more. And his be-do-have is literally be it till you see it.

Brad Crowell 13:20  

Yeah.

Lesley Logan 13:20  

In a better way.

Brad Crowell 13:21  

He did say that it's something he learned, it wasn't something he came up with, but it is so aligned with the Be It Pod.

Lesley Logan 13:28  

Yeah, well, and I will be, I will apologize, everyone. We were supposed to talk about this last year, but I got distracted about something else, and then we ran out of time. So I was, can you come back on and do the be-do-have because it's so good, and he's also amazing. Because if you are an OPC member or an Agency member or an eLevate member, then you got invited to a special free webinar that we had last week with Brad. So just saying. You got that freebie. Here's the deal, we talk about perfectionism, and he said. 

Brad Crowell 13:57  

Well, before before you move on.

Lesley Logan 13:59  

What?

Brad Crowell 13:59  

I just want to throw out there he is having a free event next week.

Lesley Logan 14:03  

Yes, he only does it once a year.

Brad Crowell 14:05  

Lesley and I mentioned it at the beginning of this podcast. It's called Rewired, and it's five day mindset challenge that he hosts every year in October. So if you go to xxll.co/bizjack, xxll.co/bizjack, b-i-z-j-a-c-k, you can sign up, and we really encourage you to do it. Lesley and I have done it multiple years running now.

Lesley Logan 14:25  

Oh yeah, we love it. Also, because when we're back from Cambodia, and so Brad is on Hong Kong time, so he's up with me, and I'm here. Put this in your ear.

Brad Crowell 14:33  

This Brad is on Hong Kong.

Lesley Logan 14:34  

Yeah, this Brad is on Hong Kong time, and that Brad is on his regular time. But anyways, it's, you will be lightened up, and there are replays. So, but he doesn't. It's, it's a container, and he only does it once a year. That's it. He, I don't know why he doesn't do it more, but he doesn't have time, and he is. This is it. So you're gonna do it, and it's free.

Brad Crowell 14:51  

Hop on it.

Lesley Logan 14:51  

Okay. So he said, and I love this. He said, "Perfection is just a way of being." He explained that perfectionism isn't just a bad habit or a temporary behavior. It's embedded deeply into our subconscious identity. When we try to fix it by changing our outward behavior without changing who we are being, the change fails, and then we falsely call it self-sabotage. And he said self-sabotage is physically impossible because your brain's sole job is to survive, so it cannot do that. It cannot fuck you up because the robots have not taken over us yet, and it protects you from threats and pain. And therefore, your brain would never intentionally destroy the very host it is designed to protect. So I really love this because we do have a lot of perfectionists who listen to this podcast. We have recovering perfectionists on this podcast, and I know from many of the people that we get to talk to on our tours and in our memberships, they think that they are causing themselves to sabotage something they want to do. But really, it is just because they haven't changed the inside; they've only changed the outside. It's like you dyed your hair and expected yourself to be different, but you're just, you just have different color hair now. You have to actually do something internally to change.

Brad Crowell 16:07  

I did think it was interesting that he said, you know, his controversial claim that self-sabotage is impossible because obviously we've heard so much about self-sabotage and sometimes I feel like I've even seen it in action, but the idea that the brain is there to protect us and it will not let us do something.

Lesley Logan 16:28  

Can you think about a time where you say you sabotaged yourself? Because I can think of times where I thought I was sabotaging myself, and if I look back in all honesty, I did those things because I didn't feel deserving of what, if I hadn't done that, what my life would have been like, or what I would have gained. I do think people self-sabotage in air quotes because he doesn't believe it's real. Where they self-sabotage is because they actually do not feel deserving of the life that they're trying to create, or they feel scared. It's on a subconscious thing, or they're afraid they're going to lose friends and things like that. I really do think that people, it's a, it's more self-conscious, subconscious, that they do it, they make those decisions because they're, they don't want to lose what they know.

Brad Crowell 17:16  

Yeah, and somewhere in there, that losing what they, what they know is safer, quote unquote, than what they don't know.

Lesley Logan 17:22  

Well, the devil you know is safer than the devil you don't know, to you.

Brad Crowell 17:26  

Yeah, but it just is an interesting idea, and I'm, you know, I don't know enough psychology to really understand it. But I, I guess the logic is there. 

Lesley Logan 17:35  

The logic, well, the logic is there, and I do think though that. 

Brad Crowell 17:38  

Unless it's an intentional sacrifice, but that's not really what we're doing in self-sabotage mode.

Lesley Logan 17:44  

I also think that when people self-sabotage, it's because they actually never set themselves up for success in the first place. So they then just do the other thing. You know, most people I hate talking about diets, but diets is an easy place, right? People, we've had Jenny Shatzel on, and she her first episode, she talks about how on Monday she and her mom and her sister would go on a diet, and then by Saturday they binge out all weekend. And then on Monday, well, they're doing that because they actually were depleting themselves of actual food. They didn't diet in a way that was sustainable in the first place. So of course, the only thing they have to do is sabotage themselves because their body and brain are hungry, but if they actually were able to set themselves up for success by choosing to not do drastic dieting, but intentional, thoughtful eating, meal prepping, talking with professionals who could understand what they're going through, if they have a food addiction, what's going on, you know, then it's harder to self-sabotage. You can't. We have friends who are doing that right now, who the sabotage is not available to them, you know. So because they were prepped for it and they've had a long time, so I just think that a lot of times people sabotage themselves because they didn't prepare for the changes they wanted to make at all. They just did the outside change.

Brad Crowell 18:54  

Yeah, I just want to go back to the first thing you said. The perfectionism is just a way of being. It was interesting because you know you had mentioned to him, "Oh yes, you know, I'm a recovering perfectionist, and he said, "These are the stories that we tell ourselves. He said you didn't come out of the womb a perfectionist, but somewhere. 

Lesley Logan 19:11  

No, I was two weeks late. 

Brad Crowell 19:13  

That's funny, but somewhere along the the line here, you decided I am a perfectionist, right? And he said he said something so fucking powerful, and I can't remember exactly what it was. So you got to go back and listen. But he said if you go back and you trace perfectionism back, it's a safety mechanism to most likely something that happened in your childhood.

Lesley Logan 19:36  

Oh, 1000% I can tell you guys, but my family listens to this podcast, so we'll just do that on another day. 

Brad Crowell 19:42  

Well, but then we've decided that the safe route of doing, you know, of being was to be perfect, whatever the perfect definition is for you. And then now today, decades later, we're still, you know, attributing. Not only are we, we're still hanging on to that decision that we made as a child-that perfect is safe, right? And so we try to control everything and all this stuff. And he said it's just a way of being. It's not, it doesn't have to be.

Lesley Logan 20:11  

Yeah.

Brad Crowell 20:12  

And I thought that was really interesting. But he also reframes burnout as one of the most beautiful things that could ever happen in your life, and that made me laugh out loud. And I was like, "Wow, that's so true."

Lesley Logan 20:22  

I love that. I agree. Every time I've had a burnout, it's like a rock bottom, and I've always come out of it on the other side better. But go ahead.

Brad Crowell 20:29  

Yeah, I mean, it doesn't have to be a rock bottom in like self-destruction mode, but burnout is you know you just come to the conclusion you just can't do it this way anymore because you're fried, whatever it might be, and he said this is an indication that your soul is finally getting involved. And he clarified that burnout has absolutely nothing to do with the amount of hours that you work. I mean, think about it. Some people work like 80 hours a week. How can they do that and not be burned out? He said, instead, what is actually is happening is it's a it's a clear indication that you're not listening to what your heart really needs, because the amount of hours that you're spending out of alignment is too much.

Lesley Logan 21:09  

Yeah, no, I couldn't agree more. I just had a catch up call with a girlfriend. You've been so busy, and I was, oh, I know it's a busy season. I feel really great though, and she's you do, and I'm like, oh yeah, I'm not in burnout because one, I knew the season was going to be busy. I planned for it. I took things off my plate. I haven't been a great friend to all of my friends, but also I haven't been a bad one either. It's because I'm I'm excited about what I'm doing, so the workload isn't the problem, right? So I think that's where it's really important. I think a lot of people attribute the number of hours they commit to something that could lead to burnout, and it's really no, it's the alignment that are you in alignment with what you want to be doing, and if you're not, then yeah, you're gonna fucking burn out.

Brad Crowell 21:50  

It's gonna burn out. It's gonna burn out. Well, anyway, like I said, he's badass. You should definitely go back and listen.

Lesley Logan 21:56  

Listen, and if you don't want to do that, or you don't have the time, and you're already sold, go do his thing.

Brad Crowell 22:02  

Yeah, starts next week. I think. Yeah, next week. So stick around. We'll be right back because not only that, he had something very controversial for his Be It Action Items.

Lesley Logan 22:11  

I think he likes that.

Brad Crowell 22:13  

We will be right back.

Brad Crowell 22:15  

Welcome back. Finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted action items can we take away from your conversation with Mr. Brad Bizjack? He challenged us to stop making a to-do list.

Lesley Logan 22:30  

I love this so much, and I haven't made a to-do list since. Have not.

Brad Crowell 22:36  

I think that's amazing.

Lesley Logan 22:36  

My bot will go. Here are some things to focus on today. That's right. We don't do what you do. Thank you.

Brad Crowell 22:41  

 Yeah, he explained that checking off urgent boxes can leave you feeling empty, whereas focusing on what is important for you to accomplish that day brings fulfillment. So rather, he advises us to switch to a daily question from "What do I need to do today? to "What result do I want from today? So that every single action that you take actually becomes targeted. What result do I want from today? Once you've identified what you are after and why, you can reverse engineer a list strategically from that outcome, as opposed to the to-do list. And here's why. This is really interesting. That is effectively project management. What he just said. What outcome do I want from today? I want blah blah blah. I want three new clients today. Okay, cool. How am I going to get three new clients? Bang bang bang. Work in reverse. As opposed to here's my to do list. What happens on the to do list? Every single thing on the to do list has the same priority level. So your dreams have the same priority level as emptying the dishwasher.

Lesley Logan 23:42  

Yes, yes.

Brad Crowell 23:43  

And this just doesn't work. So I I found this really it made me laugh again out loud. And he said when you look at it this way, it's giving you a strategic list that helps find the items that that you've been procrastinating on the most and executing that one thing and only that one thing.

Lesley Logan 24:02  

And by the way, most of the time that you actually do the thing that you've been procrastinating on takes like seven minutes. I watch this woman.

Brad Crowell 24:11  

That's insane. It's always it's just such a mental mountain. And then when you actually do it, oh, that was it.

Lesley Logan 24:16  

I know Kate and Mary Swick. They've been on the podcast before. They brought up something, and Kate's yeah, I've been procrastinating on this one thing because I oh I want to clean up my closet, and I've been procrastinating, procrastinating, and finally just did it, and I just timed myself to see how long does it take me to do. She said it took her 11 minutes. Took her 11 minutes because then she got in there. Oh da da da, this goes over here, this goes over here, da da da. That's done. 11 minutes. Just I have been putting that off for more than 11 minutes of my time. I moved it more than 11 minutes of time, and I watched this other woman who does those hoarding cleanups. And people, she's you guys are really obsessed with how long it takes me, and so she's so this is how I do it. Here's a timer, and she showed us, I'm not kidding, Brad. It looks like a how are you going to get through that? And took six minutes. It took three minutes. It took two minutes, and what? But we make we build it up in our head, and you're right. We put the same, our brain puts the same urgency on dishwasher versus your dream goal. Yeah, you know. So yeah.

Brad Crowell 25:12  

Pretty interesting. What about you?

Lesley Logan 25:14  

Worth equals love over time, particularly the love you give yourself actively, is what he said. And the greatest act of love towards yourself is self-celebration. Hello. 

Brad Crowell 25:24  

Be It Action Item. 

Lesley Logan 25:25  

What the fuck have we been doing here every Friday? And it's soon to be on Thursdays.

Brad Crowell 25:30  

Oh.

Lesley Logan 25:31  

You'll hear about that probably next month. Don't worry, the Fuck Yeah isn't going anywhere. It's just moving off of a Friday. So he advised to celebrate three specific things daily. I love this. For those of you who need a rubric, here you go.

Brad Crowell 25:45  

Here you go.

Lesley Logan 25:45  

What actions you took today? Celebrate that. How you added value to the world? Celebrate that. And who you are as a person, and you have to celebrate that. And you guys need to be nicer to yourself. You know what? What actions I took today? I got a mammogram, and I am celebrating that because I'm going to tell you right now that was a fucking chore. Everyone in the world is involved with how long that took me to get, and how I did add value to the world. I cleaned out my jewelry closet and I gave it to the SPCA, and then I went and checked all the employees there that I know to make sure that they had all the support and love that they needed from me. And who am I as a person? Well, clearly very generous. Fuck yeah! So I think, and then you said this practice primes the subconscious to have a bias towards action and contribution. And oh my God, in your rewired program you're gonna do next week, you're gonna learn about why those things are really important towards your serve the what you want to do in this world? All of us want to have action and contribution, but we don't really know how. And so, this is priming your subconscious to have a bias towards that. And as your perception of worth increases, your tendency to go into perfection dissipates, and that is so true because perfection is simply the fear that I'm not enough. But if you're priming yourself to celebrate all the things that you are doing and who you are as a person, you're gonna realize you're fucking enough. You have the mantras on your walls. I know you have these posts. I see the things you you share. I'm enough. You're enough. We're all enough. But you don't really believe it because you're not priming your subconscious to do it. So xxll.co/bizjack to go get yourself rewired.

Brad Crowell 27:23  

Prime away.

Lesley Logan 27:24  

I'm Lesley Logan.

Brad Crowell 27:24  

And I'm Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 27:26  

We're so grateful for you, and I know I kind of brought there that the podcast is changing. Don't worry, it's not changing so much. It's just that we, it's been six years. This is episode 746, and I'm being it till I see it. And we want-we have some things we're doing, but it will not affect how much you love this podcast. I think it will actually make you love us even more. So keep sending your wins in, keep sharing this with a friend, and until next time, be-do-have or in other words, Be It Till You See It.

Brad Crowell 27:54  

Bye for now.

Lesley Logan 27:55  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 28:37  

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Brad Crowell 28:47  

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Lesley Logan 28:54  

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Brad Crowell 28:57  

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Are you waiting until you achieve your goals to finally feel worthy, or are you stuck on the endless treadmill of perfectionism? In this episode of Be It Till You See It, host Lesley Logan sits down with high-performance coach Brad Bizjack to unpack the game-changing Be-Do-Have mindset model. Brad reveals why burnout is a signal of misalignment, why self-sabotage is a myth, and how daily self-celebration helps you stop caring what others think. It's a practical reset for anyone chasing achievement but running low on fulfillment.

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In this episode you will learn about:

• Tracing perfectionist identity back to the love you craved most.
• Why self-sabotage is physically impossible for your survival brain.
• How the be-do-have model starts with who you're being.
• What burnout really signals about your hours out of alignment.
• The reason your success scales with the problems you handle.
• Ditching the to-do list to chase daily results instead.

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Episode Transcript:

Brad Bizjack 0:00  

Burnout is actually one of the most beautiful things that can ever happen in your life because your soul is finally getting involved. That is what burnout means. It has nothing to do with the amount of hours worked. It has to do with the amount of hours spent out of alignment.

Lesley Logan 0:14  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:56  

Be It, babe, Brad's back. Brad Bizjack is back. My Brad does show up in the thing, but it's Brad Bizjack's show, and he is a force. He's here to help you with all those things you've been stuck on, the things that we've known but we didn't have the knowing. And I'm so excited because I'm jazzed. The episode just ended. I'm jazzed, and I feel so good about life and what I'm doing, and I want that for you. So you have to keep listening to this show. And then there's an action step for you to take that's going to blow your mind. And if you like that one, then, and you like the show, then there's another one.

Lesley Logan 1:31  

So I'll just say, Brad's going to have an amazing event next week that's free, and I'm going to be at it because I go every year because it really challenges me to be the person that I want to be, and so we'll have a link for you to sign up and join, and let me know when you do. And I hope this episode will change your life. I think it will, and I hope you send it to a friend who needs to hear it. All right, here's Brad Bizjack. 

Lesley Logan 1:52  

All right, Be It, babe. This is going to be fun because it was fun the last time, and it's a great conversation. But I know it's going to be life changing. At the very least, it's going to have you stop in your tracks and go, "Oh, wait a second! I've been doing this maybe a little bit not in the service of myself and my best interest." Brad Bizjack is back. Brad, can you remind everyone who you are and why you rock so much?

Brad Bizjack 2:12  

Yeah, I'm super pumped to be back. First of all, thanks so much for having me. I'm excited to add some value to your amazing listeners. I am a personal development expert, certified high-performance coach. I really help people shift the limiting beliefs, toxic thought patterns, limiting emotional habits that go on in the blind spots of your mind. And how do we break through those and reach the next level of success and, more importantly, fulfillment in our lives? And so that's the two-minute SparkNotes. I can get into the story and all that stuff if you want me to, but that's just a little bit of backstory of what I do.

Lesley Logan 2:44  

I know because, well, you do it so well, first of all, and I mean, there's so many people who claim to do these things, but you actually do do these things. The Instagram people claim that their services can help, but sometimes I find that there's another thing that people can collect. I'm a Pilates instructor who teaches Pilates instructors, as we know. And sometimes you're just collecting exercises. You don't need to collect more exercises. You need to do the ones you have. But what sets you apart? I guess. I mean, that's a big question. But you can brag about yourself a little bit.

Brad Bizjack 3:14  

I mean, there's a lot of really beautiful things that we've been able to do and serve people with. We obviously we've trained over 80,000 people all over the world, and how to shift their psychology. But one of the things that I think really separates us from everyone that claims to be a mindset coach on the internet, and there, like you said, there are a lot of them. And then there's people that haven't really gone through life, and they claim to be a life coach, right? And it's just really interesting to see how that works. But one of the things that really helps our students and everyone that we serve on podcasts and things like that is that we take these ethereal concepts. Let's use the example of a belief, and we actually make it tactical on how you can actually shift them, how you can actually remove some of these blocks in your subconscious mind. Because a lot of times when people are talking about this stuff on the interwebs, it's just, you gotta believe in yourself, woohoo! And then someone's sitting there going, "No shit, but how do I do that?" And we actually show you how to actually do that. I think that's one of the things that makes us really stand out.

Lesley Logan 4:15  

I agree. I couldn't agree more. And I, it's true. I interviewed someone, and she's, "Well, you have it already. You're born with all these things. You just need to not care so much about people thinking." I'm like, okay, but how do I do that? Because how do I? It's like, well, you're just gonna stop caring because I was just okay. I love your confidence in this, but I am, as someone who's quite confident and has done a lot of work on themselves, I have listeners who I'm gonna need more, ma'am.

Brad Bizjack 4:42  

Do you want me to actually answer that question?

Lesley Logan 4:44  

Yeah, yeah.

Lesley Logan 4:44  

Like, how do you actually get yourself to stop caring what other people think? So, if that's ever bothered you, and I think a lot of times people are in this space. Yeah, of course, I need to stop caring what people think. Most people don't recognize that every single thing that we do has a reason. There's a subconscious reason behind everything, and a couple of those reasons. There's six, but a couple of them are certainty and significance, right? We need to feel certain. We need to know that we're going to be able to avoid pain and gain pleasure. We need significance. We need to feel important, like we matter. And so, whenever we're thinking about what are other people thinking of us, what's actually being asked is, "Is this enough? Am I worthy in the eyes of others?" Which tells me that there is a strong craving of significance, and that I will feel worthy if I achieve X, Y, Z. If other people think of me in a certain way, the thing about significance is that there's unlimited ways to meet that need. One of which can be getting approval from others. That's a disempowering way to meet the need for significance. But there's so many more empowering ways, and one of the greatest ways is self-celebration. And most people don't recognize this: that when you celebrate yourself, what you're actually doing is you're changing your own perception of your worth. And there's this. Everyone knows that you have unlimited worth, right? Everyone knows that logically, but our perception of that truth is often limited. And so, if we can see that the perception of worth is what we need to change, well, there's a step to change that. Worth equals love over time, particularly the love you give yourself actively, like the act of love towards yourself, and the greatest act of love towards yourself in the day-to-day is that self-celebration. And I particularly have people celebrate three things: one is what actions you took today; number two is how you added value to the world; and number three is who you are as a person. I'm a great mom. I'm a great dad. I'm a great partner. Whatever it is. What you're doing then is you're priming your subconscious to have a bias towards action and contribution and seeing how great you are. You do that each day. Your perception of worth increases. When your perception of worth increases, you are no longer in this state of craving perfection. Perfection is the fear that I'm not enough, and it needs to be perfect in order to feel that way. So if we increase our perception of worth, the tendency to go into perfection dissipates. Then we don't really care what other people think. And so that's an example of taking a high-level ethereal concept and breaking it down into a tactical, what do you actually do to change it.

Lesley Logan 7:18  

Oh my god, I love these questions way more than the gratitude stuff everyone suggests to do. Not that you should be grateful. I think that's really great. But my husband did a gratitude journal, and he made himself a bet that he had to do the gratitude journal every day, or you'd have to do, he'd have to go run with me. And it's not the with me part, it's the run part. But anyways, he was doing it, and at some point he was, you know, this is really. I find myself repeating some of these gratitudes because it's not like life is so different Monday to Friday all the time that there's something new. And but I like these because it really forces you to see you are doing things each day, and you might not think that they're as big a deal as they are, but they really impact people. You know, I will say I started volunteering for the dog shelter here for the SPCA, and I love them because they don't have any requirements of how many hours I have to be there. So my perfectionism can't achieve anything. I can't. I just go when I want to go. So it's a whole on me thing, and I'm not gonna lie. Sometimes I just go for 15 minutes. I feel so. I feel like I'm the greatest person in the world.

Brad Bizjack 8:25  

I love that.

Lesley Logan 8:27  

I don't know. I guess I don't have to do much more self-celebration. I could probably do some other things. Okay, for people to do this, you know, for them to actually, I love the idea of, like, the perfectionism dissipates because we. That's why a lot of the people who listen to this podcast are recovering perfectionists, right? So they're trying to do these things. When you identify as a perfectionist, because that's how you've received love and admiration and the significance, it becomes a new identity that you have to come into. You know what I mean? You have to be, you're somebody else now. You know, you can't rely on, well, I'm a, you know, I grew up going, I'm a perfectionist. That's why I do it like that. Or I'm, you, you make that part of your story. So it becomes something you have to change. I thought, how do people do that?

Brad Bizjack 9:09  

You're asking great questions, by the way. So you mentioned it became part of your identity, and that is very true for a lot of people. And what most people don't understand is that the strongest force in the human personality is the need to stay consistent with who you already think you are, right? So if you label yourself as a perfectionist and life has taught you that you are, that's going to be your biggest obstacle to break. Now there's a step-by-step process on how you actually shift that. Number one is identifying something worth changing for, right? And then we can go deep into that if we want to. Number two is where did that belief form, right? Because you were born in this world a perfectionist. You just, you didn't decide that at a particular age. You never signed a contract, but there was a belief that came into your world, and somehow you adopted, and that might have been through an extreme. That might have been through consistent results, but typically, if we go back and we take a look at whose love did you crave the most as a child, not whose love did you get, whose love did you crave, mom or dad or grandma or grandpa, whoever raised you, and you ask yourself the question, "Who did I need to be to receive that love, and who could I never be to receive that love?" You will oftentimes find, unless you had a very empowering childhood, you will oftentimes find the greatest limiting belief of your life, and that's where a lot of that perfectionism comes from. That opens up the conversation of heal all of those pieces of the past, which can be uncomfortable to look at, but there's ways to do it that are not painful, and then reframe. Right? So if we take a look at healing a relationship. What do I mean by healing a relationship? I had a really challenging childhood, and I had a lot of blame and resentment for that growing up. A lot of anger, even borderline hatred for it for a long time. And it was like there was this hook in me that I couldn't get out of me. Until I recognized that there are three sides to every story, and that's an interesting thing. Most people say there's two sides. There's three sides, right? So number one is my perspective of what happened, right? And so there's all the things that happened, what shouldn't be done, all the things that should never be said to kids, all that, right? Then there's the compassionate side of the story. Well, let's put myself in that person's shoes, right? Well, in my case, this person was adopted when they were born. They were given away. They were bullied all growing up. They were the black sheep of their family. They were in a very toxic relationship. They were not mentally equipped to raise children in any way. So anybody in that situation would act. It doesn't excuse it, but it helps us understand anybody in that situation would act that way. So I can have compassion for the way that this person acted when I was a kid. But then there's a third side of every story, and this goes back to my fundamental belief that life is happening for you and not to you, and we elevate to whatever you believe in, God, the universe, source, infinite intelligence, whatever you believe in, that if life is really happening for me and not to me, there is some gift in this pain, and life's lessons get louder and louder and louder until you pay attention, and most people don't pay attention, right? They start really quiet, but then they get louder, and they think that life shouldn't be going how it is. Well, life should be going exactly how it is. You're just thinking it shouldn't, so you're not seeing the gift that is hidden in your pain. This gift is wrapped in pain, so that you pay attention. Because if it was pleasurable, you wouldn't pay attention to it at all, right? So, if we elevate to that perspective, well, let me take a look at this. If I'm looking at it from the universe's perspective, right? If this person never treated me that way, I would not have the empathy I have today.

Brad Bizjack 12:53  

If this person didn't treat me that way, I wouldn't be the dad I am or the spouse I am. I wouldn't be able to have the ability to see patterns going on in people's minds and help them break through it, and so holy cow, the worst days of my life were actually the best days of my life in disguise. That pain gave me the gift to do what I do now, and so if we take a look at most people's most proud qualities, most of them came from contrast of what they didn't want, and so then there's a whole other, so that's what the reframe is, and then there's the gratitude, then there's the thank you, then there's the I'm so grateful that I experience this, which comes after the forgiveness piece, after the reframing piece. But all of that, when it's done step by step, you can start to let go of this identity of I'm a perfectionist because if people don't, what they don't recognize, and this is kind of a perfection is just a way of being, right? And that's what your podcast is really about, who you're being. What most people do is they try to change this just through behavior and action, and so they'll start taking action to shift something in their life, do something different, but it never really lasts. And the reason is because perfectionism is embedded into their psychology. So then they stop at some point two weeks later and they label it as self-sabotage.

Lesley Logan 14:10  

Yeah.

Brad Bizjack 14:10  

But I have a very controversial opinion on self-sabotage. I believe that self-sabotage is physically impossible, and the reason why I believe that is because your brain is a survival mechanism. Its job is to protect you from threats and pain. And so, why would the world's greatest survival mechanism intentionally destroy the very host it's designed to protect? It wouldn't.

Lesley Logan 14:35  

No.

Brad Bizjack 14:35  

Right. So anyway.

Lesley Logan 14:37  

We would call that a disease. We would say that the brain is diseased. That's right, when that, yeah, exactly.

Brad Bizjack 14:41  

Right, so people label it as self-sabotage when really all that's going on is who you're being, the perfectionist in this example, just has not been changed or dealt with, and most people go about this backwards. So there's the what we want to create, but then there's the how do we change who we're actually being in the subconscious. And we can go any direction you want to go with that.

Lesley Logan 15:01  

Yeah, yeah. No, I do want to go. I want to keep following this train of thought because I do think you're correct. So I call it Be It Till You See It because it's instead of waiting until this time, then I will, right? So when I have this money, then I will become a kinder person. Or when I have this, then I will prioritize myself. And it's actually you'll just have those things and you'll still be you, right? That's my thing because you didn't actually practice it, you didn't find five minutes for yourself, and so I think that if you're going towards something that you want to change, but you're bringing the person that you, the perfectionist that you were, towards it, it's never going to be perfect. So you're going to stop halfway through, and then you call it your failure. It's a failure thing or it's a sabotage thing. So I actually really like going down this train because I do think it can be helpful for the person who's been listening for a long time and they're still not getting to the see it part. 

Brad Bizjack 15:47  

Yeah.There's a model that I love to teach, and I didn't create this. It's just something I learned years ago that really helps people from a high-level perspective see how they're trying to change their life. It's called the be-do-have model, and I can go as deep as you want into it. But the whole idea of this is that most people are going about changing their life completely backwards, right? And I've noticed this. I've had the privilege now of working with over 80,000 people, and I've seen patterns. I could be completely blind at this point, with what I'm recognizing in people, and I could still recognize this. This is completely obvious, and I would see that I would say that 90%, if I were to ballpark it, 90% of people operate from, and I recognize three paradigms, but 90% of people operate from the first one, which is what I call the have-do-be psychology. This is where most people live, and you'll kind of recognize yourself here because I'll explain some of the symptoms of this in just a moment. But most people will believe once I have more money, or more time, or more spousal support, or more freedom, or whatever, then I'll take courageous action on whatever my dreams are, right? And once I take that courageous action, then I will have my goals. Then I'll be successful. I'll be happy. I'll be fulfilled. I'll be whatever it is. So have, do, be. Once I have more money, then I'll hire a coach so I can be successful. Right? And what people that live in this place tend to do is they tend to tiptoe around their dreams, so they'll just do the things that are safe enough to try, but not really go all in. This is the person that is addicted to insights, and so they just study all day long, but never really take any action. And they could tell people all day long how to change their life or how to do something, but they're not doing it themselves. They're the person that consistently says, "I know I need to," and they're not doing it. By the way, anyone that's actually doing something doesn't say, "I know I need to," right? Because they're doing it. They don't. And this person is so caught up in being perfect that they will either not start because they don't know exactly how it's going to go. They'll either, like I said, tiptoe around the edge of a dream, or nothing they do will ever feel like enough. So they'll eventually get burnt out or stressed out, and then they don't continue anyways. And so this, I label this paradigm of the world the worried perfectionist because that's just what consumes their life. This person is obsessed with certainty and safety and wanting to know they're gonna be okay, and they think that life needs to change first before they change, but that's not how life works because all of life is cause and effect. And most people will obsess over the effect, and the effect is what's in the bank, how the business is going, how the family is doing, what your health, right? That's the effect. The cause is who you're being. Most people aren't seeing that, and if you forget about the effect, or if you forget about the cause, which is who you're being, then you can no longer influence the effect, which is what you have. And so most people become trapped here, and they just wait for life to change, complaining about their life. But you only complain about things that you could change, but you're too afraid to. And so this is where 90% of the world lives is in this place of worried perfectionism because they're operating from a have-do-be psychology. But then there is this small segment of the world, I would argue 8, 9% of the world, that operates from a little bit of a different paradigm. There's, it's still not incredibly empowering. They're just starting to actually get some results, but they're not fulfilled. And this is, and you'll know that you're this person if you're always going and can never stop because you're afraid it's all going to fall apart. This is you if you feel like everything's held together by a tiny little thread.

Brad Bizjack 19:35  

This is you if you become addicted to action and you can't sit and take in a sunset. This person operates from a do-have-be psychology. This is where I need to be doing all the time. I can never slow down, and if I do enough, then I'll have a goal, right? I might have the great business, whatever it is, and if I have the goal, that's what qualifies me to be worthy. That's what qualifies me to let go of perfectionism, that's what qualifies me to be enough, right?

Lesley Logan 20:03  

I'm smiling because I feel like people who are listening to the have, you know, have-be-do, which the one that's (inaudible), they were, oh I'm not that one, but they're probably this one because, right? The doer, the doer, and it's gonna come, and then they burn out. .

Brad Bizjack 20:19  

Yeah. Exactly. That's one of the symptoms, is you're totally burnt out. And people will say all the time, "I'm burnt out. I've spent so much time on work. I am so burnt out." But burnout is actually one of the most beautiful things that can ever happen in your life because your soul is finally getting involved. That is what burnout means. It has nothing to do with the amount of hours worked. It has to do with the amount of hours spent out of alignment, that's what burnout is.

Lesley Logan 20:44  

Oh my god! Everyone, rewind and listen to that one more time. That was so good. That's so true. I can think back to two burnouts and go, "Oh yeah, no. Every time I get there, I am out of alignment." Thank God I know it now, but you can spot it now. So, okay, yeah, I'm in.

Brad Bizjack 21:00  

It prevents it from happening, right? Whenever you're in that state, all it means is you're not listening to what your heart really needs, and you're just depending on an old paradigm of life that has been limiting you. This person will push emotion down because they just don't have time for that. They're always so stressed out, so they don't feel or experience fulfillment. They think fulfillment is at the end instead of now, instead of the fuel. And this person is incredibly addicted to achievement because they think achievement makes them feel like they're enough. But what happens with this person is they bounce from goal to goal, peak to peak, to-do list to to-do list, and nothing ever feels like enough. It's like their worth is a moving target, like they're chasing a ghost. And so, this person just feels like nothing, the way that I can best describe it is this person is consistently wondering, subconsciously, "What's going to be enough?" And that just operates their psychology. The reason why is because they're not doing it in a way that's actually going to lead to a fulfilling life. Because if you have achievement but you don't have fulfillment, that's not success. That is failure. Achievement without fulfillment is one of the greatest failures in life. And I say that with so much respect for everybody listening, because I was there. I lived that way. So what we need to do is take a look at these first two paradigms: have-do-be and do-have-be. You'll notice that the "be" is at the end, right? And the "be," by the way, is the sum total of our thoughts, our emotions, our beliefs, our values, and our identities, how we view our model of the world.

Lesley Logan 22:41  

Yeah.

Brad Bizjack 22:41  

That is the "be" and if the perspective is the "be" is at the end, we're going to have a very hard go at life. You'll notice that the most successful people that are actually successful in all terms of the word, I mean financially, emotionally, spiritually, physically, people that are truly crushing it at life and are genuinely happy, they flip the entire paradigm. They operate from a be-do-have psychology. The "be" is the beginning, and they reverse engineer. They say, "Okay, well, what do I want to have? What's the effect? What's the outcome I'm after?" "I want to have these things", whatever these things are. It could be a seven-figure business. It could be this level of health. It could be whatever, right? "I want to have that." Okay, if I already had that, what would I be doing already?

Lesley Logan 23:29  

Yeah.

Brad Bizjack 23:29  

Because chances are, the doing at that level is very different from the doing at the current level.

Lesley Logan 23:33  

Yes, it is.

Brad Bizjack 23:35  

And the challenge with that is that those actions require courage because they're different from what you're currently doing. So then the question becomes, "Who do I need to be now so that those actions become automatic?" That means what do my thoughts need to be? What emotional state do I need to live in consistently? What beliefs do I need to have about my identity and my life in general, about success, about money, about people? What do I need to value? Not just in terms of family or whatever. I mean, in terms of what emotion am I driving towards in life? And when we can rewire that so that to where the operating system of your mind, the "be"is set up for success, then "do" becomes automatic. You don't have to do any internal marketing anymore. You're just doing the actions, and then the "have" is the natural byproduct.

Lesley Logan 24:27  

Yeah.

Brad Bizjack 24:27  

And that's where a very small portion of the world lives, and that's why a very small portion of the world is successful and deeply fulfilled.

Lesley Logan 24:33  

Yeah, I remember years, this has been probably in 2015. No, no, yeah, about that. Anyways, I remember going, "God, I can't wait. I wish I just knew how to run a company, because then I could just handle the problems I have. But I don't know how to run a company." And there was this part of my brain that said, "Well, what if you had to know how to run a company? What would you be doing if you knew what you were doing?" I was walking down the street and I thought, "Oh, people who run things, they have people on the team who know how to do the thing. I don't know how to do accounting, so I just started going, "Okay, what experts can I bring in? Oh, I don't have the money for that, so, what expert is making a podcast on that right now because I can listen to that." And so I just started using this free time as, "Okay, if I am a CEO, what am I doing?" It changed my whole schedule. It changed how I approached things, and then I started to realize, "Oh, I reverse engineer a lot of things. This is just, that's what it is." As a kid, you guys, I would only play a maze from the finish line back. I only would do the maze backwards, and I would always win. My friends took me to a cornfield to do one of those mazes, and I was not having it. There was no way to do the reverse. But it's funny when you do it like that. One, I'm sure people go, "Oh, wow, that makes so much sense." But it is not the easiest thing to do because it requires you to be, at the beginning of this podcast, you can't be at the identity that you are now, right?

Brad Bizjack 25:56  

That's right. Yeah. You can't be at the identity level that you are now. Saying, you need to be someone different sounds really cute on Instagram, right? But, and I could do that approach that you talked about earlier, "Well, you just got to believe it." But that does nothing, right? It does nothing. There is a strategy and a step-by-step process of how we actually shift this. And if I can give anyone here one kind of, yeah, call it a nugget, that will put their current situation, put a little bit more ease in your current situation to allow for more mental bandwidth and energy to solve this problem, it's the idea that your success is directly proportional to the amount and quality of problems that you're willing to handle. And so the situation you're in now, if you feel capped in some way in any area of life, it's because of your perception of the problem you're in. Your perception of the problem is likely limiting you, because here's the thing about success: the more successful you become, I promise you, the more problems you're going to have. It is. I promise you.

Lesley Logan 27:06  

I can guarantee it.

Brad Bizjack 27:09  

Because in order to become successful, you have to get really good at solving problems. And then the very act of solving a problem creates another one. So the more successful you become, you're just really good at creating problems. And so, if your relationship with what I'm facing in my life right now is "hard" just making that up as an example, well, then you're limited in the amount and quality of problems that you have because your relationship with your existing problem is, "This shouldn't be the case." Yet life is always happening for you and not to you. It's trying to teach you something. If this problem becomes a gift that you get to grow from, or something that's meant to help you evolve into the next level of you, it doesn't solve, let's say, the bank issues or the fitness issues or whatever. It doesn't solve the 3D issue, but it opens up emotional energy for you to solve it. Because you're no longer giving your personal power away to a problem. If you give all of your personal power, meaning your feelings of, your ability to handle life, if you give your personal power away to your existing circumstances, and say that needs to change before I feel better, then you have no personal power left to do anything about your circumstances. And so most people just give their power away all day long.

Lesley Logan 28:21  

Yeah.

Brad Bizjack 28:21  

But if we can see that these problems are meant to be there to help us grow, because life is rigged in our favor, then we won't give as much power away. And if we don't give as much power away, we have more space to actually say, "Well, then who do I need to be, and how do I change these beliefs?" Instead of just saying, "Yeah, let's be positive and live in toxic positivity and just believe in yourself." That doesn't work.

Lesley Logan 28:42  

No, no. I'm so glad you said that, because I think toxic positivity is one of the worst things that someone could actually fall into. It's so terrible. So, in our communities, we have a channel that's "I Need a Moment." So you can vent, you can bitch, you can whatever you want. It's so great, but you must, before you leave the community, go to the wins channel and leave a win. Now, it doesn't have to be that, "I'm so glad this thing has happened to me," because it doesn't have to be that. It can be something completely different. But the idea that you can find that there is something going on for you, there's some sort of self-celebration that you can do amongst the muck, is really, really helpful, right? I think it's really helpful. And on the podcast on Fridays, I have a Fuck Yeah Friday episode where I'm allowed to vent about something, and then I self-celebrate. And then they, oh, my husband Brad is here. Let there be light. If you're watching in YouTube, it just got brighter, and now you can see how sweaty I am. That's a whole other story, guys. Then the listener can have a win because when they hear their win, it's often weeks or months after they submitted it, and they can be reminded of it. But we have to notice that there is something good. And I had this woman who studied happiness, and she was talking about living in a world where, in third-world countries, people barely have a bicycle, and yet they're smiling, right? They're smiling. So your happiness isn't coming from all these things that you have. It's back to your point, the amount of problems you can handle. Happiness is actually, you know, the people who are happy are actually dealing with problems, but they are recognizing that there's other good stuff coming from that, right? Because they can see good when it's good, and then they have this problem they deal with, but they still see joy in life because they're not so in the place of, "I should have it differently."

Brad Bizjack 30:24  

Yeah, you said the word "should" a second ago, and a lot of people just should all over themselves all the time. "And I should have this. It should be different." And you mentioned happiness and the people in these third-world countries. If I could make up a reason why they're so happy, it's because they have the least amount of expectations. The happiest people in life have the least amount of expectations of how it should be, and they're more grateful for how it is. Doesn't mean that you don't have aspirations to change or grow. It just means that there's not this expectation that it should be different. It's beautiful as is, and I'm excited for what else I build. So, I've just noticed that as a direct correlation in people that are the happiest. They just, there's a lot less "shoulds" in their life.

Lesley Logan 31:08  

Yeah.

Brad Bizjack 31:08  

And if people listening here can just adopt that and say, "What do I believe should be different? And maybe if I trade those expectations for appreciations, I'd have a different life." Something to noodle on.

Lesley Logan 31:21  

You're so good. There's 17 liners. I wanted to say 17 times, "Rewind. Go back to that one." That's so good. Say it again. I was re-listening to when you were on last year, and I was just, "Yeah. Oh my God. Yes. Okay." And, "Oh, I've done that." That is no longer a thing that I have to remind myself about. So I just, I'm obsessed with how you help people, because that's what you really do. You know, I was so excited to have you. I feel like this has to be an annual experience for all of us, because each thing that you say is not a light switch. Okay, now I've written that down, noted, I got it. Because you have to put that into the system that you have, the day that you have, the life you have, the people in your life that you have, and then try to integrate it. Try to take the next step. So you're gonna, it feels like two steps forward, one step back. But each year that I know you and I listen to these amazing things that you say: "Oh, that is easier." "Oh, I've just moved up on that one." "Oh, now, oh, I forgot to do that. I missed that one."

Brad Bizjack 32:17  

I love that.

Lesley Logan 32:19  

Okay, so I mean, my goodness, you have so many wonderful things for us to help us be-do-have, and also, really, I love the beginning of this talk of removing the perfectionism from our lives so we can have more fulfillment, but more and more life to live. What are you super excited about right now? Because I know you're always doing something magical and amazing.

Brad Bizjack 32:38  

This is my favorite time of year. It's like Christmas. I know it's October, but it's Christmas.

Lesley Logan 32:44  

I love October, so I'm in.

Brad Bizjack 32:47  

You know, I noticed a problem, and here's an example: life gives you challenges, and you have to figure out how to solve them. The problem was, I'd be on podcasts and shows, and I would do speaking gigs and all this stuff, and people would listen to these words, right? And they would be so inspired by the depth of it and how I can make this kind of tactical and try to make it real. And then people did nothing with it. And I was, "What the heck?" If I'm going to make an impact, we actually have to make this real. And I realized in those moments there's a very big difference between knowledge and knowing, right? Knowledge is the conceptual understanding of something. Knowing is, "I'm living this." And so I thought to myself, "What do I do to make this real for people and actually give them an experience so that these inspirational concepts aren't just something you hear on a podcast one day, but actually become part of you?" And so I decided to put together a five-day challenge, and I do it every year in October. It is my favorite time of year. We have thousands of people from all over the world that come together to take these concepts and actually make them applicable and real to your life, custom to what you have going on, your specific goals. Because my goals are different from your goals, and who am I to tell you what to want? You want what you want. Well, let's break down all of the garbage getting in the way of getting there. And so we go through a five-day process of identifying: What am I really after in life, and what is the "be" that I'm living through now in the be-do-have, so the identity, the beliefs, the values, the emotional patterns, the thought patterns, and is that in alignment with what I really want to have? Most people don't recognize that the way that you're operating has to be in energetic coherence with what you want. You've heard, "Your vibe attracts your tribe," right? Like attracts like. So if you're in a low energy and your goals are beautiful, you're not going to create them because you're in a low energy. You're just going to attract more of what you don't want. So we need to see the gap between where we are in terms of being and what we really want in our life. That's Day One. And then the rest of the week, we go to town on how do we break down all the things that are limiting us? How do we maximize the things that are empowering us? And how do we close the gap from where we are to where we want to be? And how do we live in a state of fulfillment now while striving for so much more? So it's a beautiful process. It's helped over 80,000 people from all over the world, and it starts next week. And I'm super excited about it.

Lesley Logan 35:21  

I’m excited because I feel like you always pick the perfect week for me because I'm always back and I'm coming off Cambodian time, so I'm up early. And I'm up early anyways, but I'm very much up. And I take you on my dog walk. You’re,I really do. I take you on the dog walk and I just walk, and it's just the best way to start my day. Obviously, different time zones might be a different time, but it's wonderful. And I do love that you do this because you're right. These words are wonderful, and if somebody writes them down and hits repeat on this show, it's so good. But you do kind of need a container sometimes to practice, and then being a container with other people who are also doing it at the same time because the vibe attracts your tribe. But you're with all these people, so it makes it easier to show up and take in all these tips that you've been saying, but actually put them into practice, which is so beautiful. So I'm excited for it. Brad and I will obviously be in attendance because there's just something about it that makes me go, "Oh yeah, okay, that's good. I'm doing that well." You know, like a little affirmation that I might have forgotten to give myself. So I am so grateful for you for doing that for all these people because they need it. So what an impact you're making!

Brad Bizjack 36:23  

Well, thank you so much, my friend. Really appreciate it. Oh, and it's free, by the way.

Lesley Logan 36:26  

That's right. It is free. So you have kind of no excuse.

Brad Bizjack 36:30  

Don't treat it like it's free, though. Treat it like you invested 10 grand into it because it's such a powerful experience.

Lesley Logan 36:37  

And also, there are replays, so you guys can schedule them in if you can't come live. You can schedule in the replays. It's really wonderful, and the community aspect of it will get you out of your head if you get stuck. So I think it's so wonderful. Okay, you have given us the world of wonderful tips, but you know the podcast does end with bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us?

Brad Bizjack 37:00  

Oh man, there's so many. 

Lesley Logan 37:03  

I know. You can pull from any.

Brad Bizjack 37:07  

So say it again. 

Lesley Logan 37:07  

Bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted steps. So you can pick one of them, or some people go crazy and do all of them. But you've already got one, so you go take it away.

Brad Bizjack 37:18  

This is going to ruffle some feathers, especially for the achievers in the room, but stop making to-do lists. I'll explain why, and I'll be quick about it. I promise. When most people have them, they're so good at making to-do lists, but they have their dream at the same level of importance as laundry. And I promise you, when you run out of underwear, you're going to wash your clothes. You're going to.

Lesley Logan 37:44  

As an ADHD person living with an ADHD person, you do. You will wash your clothes. It will happen. It'll get hung up. Everything will happen.

Brad Bizjack 37:51  

It'll figure itself out. But most people don't recognize that this is actually limiting their productivity because, if we take a look, most people have had those days where they complete everything on their list and they still feel empty. And then they've had those days where they do next to nothing on their list, but they still feel fulfilled. And the reason why is because when you checked all the boxes, you were focused on what was urgent and demanded. When you felt fulfilled, you were focused on what was important. And so most people obsess over completing a to-do list. I never, ever follow a to-do list. What I ask myself is, "What result do I want today?" Not, "What do I need to do today?" What result do I want today? For example, if I have an objective of, let's say, signing three new clients, if that is a goal today, that is a very different emotional, energetic, and physical experience than, "I just really want to get a couple of social media posts up and film a podcast." Everything becomes targeted. So once I know what I'm after and why I'm after it, then I can reverse engineer a list strategically from that outcome. What are the most important items that will yield that result? And typically, the one at the top of the list is the one you've been procrastinating on the most. And if you do that one thing, and only that thing, first, you will have more success in a week than you did all of last year. And so this is how successful people seem like they're operating on a completely different wavelength. It's because they are. Instead of, "What do I need to do today?" "What result do I want today?" And reverse engineer from that.

Lesley Logan 39:20  

Oh my God! No one has ever said to ditch the to-do list. This is the.

Brad Bizjack 39:23  

Let's go.

Lesley Logan 39:24  

It just took 800 episodes to get the best tip. Oh my God, Brad, I adore you. Someday we must meet in person. I must go on the lake with you and your family and my Brad. It'll just be wonderful. We've got to get our tour to come through there. But you are just so great. I can't wait to spend all next week with you and all these listeners. You're going to join in. It's going to change your life. And also, here's another reason why I like you do it in October. I just want to shout out the timing of it. I think when people ask, "Oh, what are you doing for next year?" I have already planned next year before Q4. Just so you know, so I like having the last two months of the year to kind of wrap up things, tie off loose ends, so that I can make next year be the be-do-have that I want. I can get rid of the stuff that's in the way. You know, you can already be prepared for what you want. Not that I'm a "new year, new me" kind of girly. That's not what I'm saying, for some people, there is a way that the seasons work. You are going into wrapping things up already. The October of having, "This is the result I want to have. How am I going to do that?" You can really use the end of the year to reverse engineer. That's my excitement.

Brad Bizjack 40:30  

I love that. Never thought of that. 

Lesley Logan 40:31  

I'm sure you didn't but I think of that

Brad Bizjack 40:34  

You know, it's a lot of times I also notice going into October, November. I notice sometimes there's an energy dip in society as pumpkin spice comes out, the energy about dreams goes down. Yeah, and this injects a serum into your mind that makes you just incredibly excited about possibility the rest of the year. 

Lesley Logan 40:54  

Yeah, it's really brilliant. It's really, really brilliant. And for me, Q4 is just an insane time of my life. This one is even crazier. And so, going with all your tips going in, it just changes how I show up in that busyness, because otherwise it's just a busy body versus having being the person I want to be in that time. So I can appreciate it, so I can enjoy it. So it's not just a to-do list. Anyways, Brad, you're amazing. Thank you so much for being here. You guys, share this with a friend who needs to hear it. Make sure you sign up. We'll have the link for you, and let me know that you did so I can celebrate with you next week. All right, sir, take care of you and my loves, Go Be It Till You See It.

Lesley Logan 41:33  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 42:15  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 42:20  

It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.

Brad Crowell 42:25  

Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan 42:32  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 42:35  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time. 

Lesley Logan celebrates a win she almost talked herself out of, choosing to hire real help rather than wait years for something she could pursue now. As Balanced Body marks fifty years, she shares why coaching others taught her to ask for coaching too. She also vents about the looming time change, lifts up wins from the summer tour, and offers a reminder that investing in yourself is not impulsive when it's strategic. This episode invites you to stop waiting for the perfect moment.

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• Celebrating Balanced Body's fifty years live from the Sacramento tour booth.
• Why the looming time change and darker evenings feel so frustrating.
• Hiring real help to finally grow the YouTube channel toward 100,000.
• Listener wins from summer tour classes plus two brand-new clients.
• Closing with a mantra about seeing the beauty within yourself.

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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

It's Fuck Yeah Friday.

Brad Crowell 0:01  

Fuck yeah!

Lesley Logan 0:02  

Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:38  

Be It babe, how are you? I am so excited for today. Today we are celebrating oh my god 50 years of Balanced Body as our sponsor for our big tours, and last week we announced where we're going in our winter tour. So hopefully you've gone and checked that out, but we are actually spending the celebrating this day with Balanced Body and their crew at POT Sacramento. So I'm up in Sacramento. If you are one of our members or listeners, and you are there as well, please come by in the booth and say hi.

Lesley Logan 1:13  

Happy Fuck Yeah Friday! I'm so happy you're here. You know these short episodes. I hope are meaningful for you. I love to share your wins. I love for you to hear what's going on in real time in my life and what's on my heart and what's a win I'm having because I think it's really easy for us to put people on pedestals and think the grass is greener where they are, and everyone's just doing their thing, trying the hardest they can. And you know, you are amazing. So thanks for being here.

Lesley Logan 1:38  

So okay, I am aware that we are weeks away from a time change, possibly, but maybe not, because you know I heard that they're not doing the time change, but then they picked the one I don't want, and I feel like everybody in the world agrees that we should stop changing the clocks, but I don't want it to be light in the morning. I know you think that's crazy because I love to walk in the morning. I actually love to wake up when it's dark, and when we start my walk and watch the sunrise, and I want it to be lighter later. So statistically, I guess it's probably better if we all wake up early with the sun. But I also just, don't you want to get off work and there's still some sunlight to enjoy the outdoors. Isn't that what you want with friends and family? Just I don't know, have some summer water and just sit outside. So I'm a little frustrated that we're coming close to what could be a time change, and then it's darker earlier for so long, and I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. Hate it. So that's my event. Now for my win because you don't need to hear me bitch without hearing a good thing that's going on. I hired help for my YouTube channel, and we're hitting our first eight weeks together, and I'm really excited to see what that does. But my YouTube channel has been a long time running, and I was kind of figuring out what should it be doing. I want it to grow. I want it to be 100,000 subscribers because I want the impact of that. I want to help that many people who love Pilates. And I just kind of got stuck where we were, and I felt like we weren't we were growing, but we weren't growing that fast. I don't want to wait 15 years to hit the goal. I want to hit it. And I met this person, and I raised my hand and asked a vulnerable question, and they followed up. Oh my god, fancy that! And they're actually not an asshole who's stealing from me or promising the world and not giving me anything. Like they're great, wonderful at what they do. And so the last 8 weeks we've been working together, this celebrates that. And I just am excited for you to see what we put out because of these meetings. And I'm really congratulating myself for hiring some help.

Lesley Logan 3:23  

Y'all, we coach people all the time, and it would be silly for me to say I have all the answers. We coach people all the time on their business because we have been where you're going, and we can help you get where you want to go. And so, my loves, sometimes you got to hire people to help you get where you want to go. And so I did that, and I'm just celebrating that I didn't go. Oh, it's not the right time. So much going on in the world. Nope. Put my money where my mouth was. I want to hit this goal. He's the right person. I'm doing it. Interview, deal of things. Very proud of myself. Wasn't impulsive. Was very strategic and thoughtful. And I just want to share that with you because if you do that in your life, you too have a win to celebrate.

Lesley Logan 3:58  

All right, now for a win of yours. This is from @cnoteandmaxxi, "Coming to summer tour class in 45min." So obviously this is from August. But you did come to our summer tour, and you came to two classes. It was so fun to see you. I love that you did that. @purapilates_yasmin, "Two new clients this week, loving the method." Ah, I love when our Pilates clients fall in love with the method the way we do. It's just so fun when they get hooked on it like we do. So thank you both so much for sending in your wonderful, wonderful wins so we can see that you can just celebrate a win. I set up for a class and I made it. I'm going. Or that someone else sees the world the way you see it because of you. Those are wins.

Lesley Logan 4:40  

All right, let me get you a mantra, my loves, and get you onto your weekend. And like I said, if you are in Sacramento at POT, come by say hi. I choose to see the beauty within me. I choose to see the beauty within me. I choose to see the beauty within me. My love, you choose to see the beauty within you. Now go Be It Till You See It.

Lesley Logan 5:00  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 5:42  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 5:47  

It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.

Brad Crowell 5:52  

Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan 5:59  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 6:02  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.