How do you embrace slow living when the world demands speed? Lesley and Brad reflect on Lesley's interview with author and slow living advocate Stephanie O’Dea. They explore how intention, structure, and seasonal living can create a more fulfilling life. This episode is a reminder that it's okay to go at your own pace and that it might be the key to your peace.
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- Why structure and routine are key for creating freedom.
- How living with intention helps reduce overwhelm.
- What seasonal living looks like and why it works.
- How guilt and people-pleasing get in the way of presence.
- Small steps to start building a slower, more values-aligned life.
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Episode Transcript:
Lesley Logan 0:00
Whenever we're trying to make things happen fast, but it usually means we want to skip ahead. And unfortunately, when you skip ahead, you miss out on like the muscle strength and experience you need for where you're going to go. So then when you get there, not only are you further along than you are strong enough to be, but now you don't have the skill set to handle the problems you have.
Lesley Logan 0:18
Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.
Lesley Logan 1:01
Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the sustainable convo I had with Stephanie O'Dea in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened that episode, you need to, as part of a slow living request, you got to go rush over and just make it.
Brad Crowell 1:17
Just rush right now, get over there.
Lesley Logan 1:20
Do not pass go. You gotta listen to it. She's so great. She's so fun. I got to be on her podcast as well. But also she's like, a famous, like, slow-cooking person, like she's.
Brad Crowell 1:30
Yeah, Crock-Pot.
Lesley Logan 1:31
Just the famous Crock-Pot.
Brad Crowell 1:33
Not insta-pot.
Lesley Logan 1:33
Yeah, no.
Brad Crowell 1:34
She was very upset about the Instant Pot.
Lesley Logan 1:37
She was and we were really in on the insta-pot, but we got off the insta-pot, we like made soup.
Brad Crowell 1:44
Yeah, still do occasionally. It's good times.
Lesley Logan 1:47
Just whenever we're home when it's soup weather. Speaking of what day today is, today is June 19th 2025 and it's Juneteenth here in the United States. The freedom of African Americans from slavery in the U.S. in 1865 is celebrated on the holiday Juneteenth on June 19th. Juneteenth is made up of the words June and 19th.
Brad Crowell 2:06
Case you didn't know.
Lesley Logan 2:08
Just, whoever writes these, it's always just the explanation of the day, using the day you can't.
Brad Crowell 2:15
It's celebrated every year on this day.
Lesley Logan 2:17
Yes, yes. And it is on this day that Major General Gordon Granger, wow, arrived in Texas, more than 155 years ago, to inform slaves that slavery had been abolished. Today is also.
Brad Crowell 2:31
Yeah, well I just want to comment on that because, because they just ignored the messengers and they were like, nah, we're good. We're gonna keep doing.
Lesley Logan 2:41
Not the slaves, the bad people.
Brad Crowell 2:43
Yeah, the slavers. They were like, yeah, we're just gonna keep going. And then they, they sent, well, actually, I don't, I actually, don't know who first, who came first. It's possible that Gordon Granger got there to make the initial announcement, and then later it had to be enforced.
Lesley Logan 3:01
Yeah, this is something that the day didn't give us information on. And I feel like I've read about, here's what I do, every Juneteenth I actually read about it and I find myself appalled that this happened. And then also, of course, it didn't, and also the time we're recording this.
Brad Crowell 3:15
Also, of course it did what?
Lesley Logan 3:16
I said at the time that we're recording this.
Brad Crowell 3:18
No, no, before that you said.
Lesley Logan 3:19
Of course, it did, of course, bad things. Of course it happened because they're shitty people. Of course it happened. But on this time that we are recording this, because the day after a very, very huge slave, like the largest slave sugar plantation, slave house burned to the ground, it was turned into a wedding venue, and so people are having those antebellum weddings, and it's like humongous tons of rooms like but was one of the worst slave places in Louisiana, and it burned to the ground. And I have to say, people are celebrating the fuck out of it online. And I have no problems with that. In fact, I have why I like was celebrating and smiling with them every reel of every person, like dancing and going, oh, do you need some water? And then pouring away from the fire. I was like, yes, yes to all of it. Because, I mean, I just, it's just, it's bad. So anyways, please make sure that you are honoring Juneteenth today. Take some time to read up on it. If you didn't know about it. We obviously still have some learning to do, but it's an important day.
Brad Crowell 4:25
Remember this general. Major General.
Lesley Logan 4:27
Yeah, Major General Gordon Granger.
Brad Crowell 4:30
That's a mouthful.
Lesley Logan 4:30
That is a mouthful. I mean, his parents didn't name him Major General, so.
Brad Crowell 4:37
Fortunately for his parents.
Lesley Logan 4:38
What if he become a ranger? Then he'd be Ranger Granger.
Brad Crowell 4:42
Major General Gordon Granger Ranger.
Lesley Logan 4:44
No, he would have just been a ranger. It would have been Ranger Granger. All right, today is also the International Day for the Elimination of Sexual Violence and Conflict for everyone else there, out there in the world. So we wanted to, because it's an international show and so on this International Day for the Elimination of Sexual Violence and Conflict is observed every year on June 19th to raise awareness about sexual violence and conflict and to strategize ways to end these crimes throughout the world. On June 19th 2015, United Nations General Assembly proclaimed the date as the International Day for the Elimination of Sexual Violence and Conflict. This date commemorates the adoption of Security Council Resolution 1820 in which the Council condemned sexual violence as a tactic of war and an impediment to peace building. Yeah, wow.
Brad Crowell 5:31
Yeah, this one's heavy.
Lesley Logan 5:32
It's a heavy day. Brad, these are heavy.
Brad Crowell 5:35
Yeah. I mean, you know, like, I listen to a lot of deep dive interviews about the conflicts in Europe, you know, and then a.
Lesley Logan 5:45
Oh, it's terrible what they do.
Brad Crowell 5:46
In the Middle East and in Africa. And, you know, like they're using rape as a tool of war in.
Lesley Logan 5:54
So many countries.
Brad Crowell 5:55
In the Ukraine, you know, in, in, it's historically.
Lesley Logan 6:01
Yeah, it's happening. It's happened. It's happened for centuries and it happens everywhere, and it is horrifying. So I think it's, think it's, I can't believe it took till 2015 for the world to be like, this is a bad thing.
Brad Crowell 6:16
Well, I mean, it's been, you know, it's a war crime. It's been war crime for a really long time. But yeah, maybe just this, you know, the day bringing awareness to it.
Lesley Logan 6:27
Do you know who then, who gets to be the court for war crimes, like, who does it?
Brad Crowell 6:33
Yeah. So there's the International Criminal Court, the ICC.
Lesley Logan 6:37
Oh.
Brad Crowell 6:37
Yeah and we're not a part of it, we don't honor the ICC as the United States of America, which is a complicated political decision.
Lesley Logan 6:47
We are winning. We are winning in the history books right now, guys. Well, you know what? I think we need to bring this day up a little bit. So first of all, I think Juneteenth is like a positive holiday, right?
Brad Crowell 7:04
Yeah, Juneteenth is a positive holiday. I think that it's important to remember, but also it's a day of celebration. So, love that.
Lesley Logan 7:12
Okay. And.
Brad Crowell 7:13
We can talk more about the ICC later, y'all, if you're really interested.
Lesley Logan 7:16
I don't think anyone came here. We'll get Brad his own segment at the end.
Brad Crowell 7:21
I listen to a lot of this kind of stuff, and, you know, it's interesting, it's interesting why we chose not to be, you know, part of it, but also we still.
Lesley Logan 7:30
Well, because we would be in trouble for war crimes all the time.
Brad Crowell 7:32
We would be in trouble for war crimes. That's right.
Lesley Logan 7:34
Yes, that's right, okay, but you know what's happening that's going to be more fun than all this talk? July.
Brad Crowell 7:42
Slow living.
Lesley Logan 7:44
July 9th, we are hosting, wait, oh, we are doing this. Yes, okay.
Brad Crowell 7:50
Yeah, this is actually happening.
Lesley Logan 7:52
Okay, but there's a few things going on and July is very busy.
Brad Crowell 7:54
July is a busy month for us.
Lesley Logan 7:54
So, so it's June right now, obviously, Juneteenth, but July 9th, I am hosting an eLevate workout and Q&A. So if you're a Pilates instructor, this is a free workout. It's a way to get your questions about eLevate, my mentorship, answered. You can hear from people who've done eLevate and why they like it and why you should do it, because you shouldn't take it from me. You can take it from the people who've been part of it. So you want to go to lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist. Then on July 17th, we are doing an Agency Mini. Guess we are bringing it back for Pilates instructors and studio owners.
Brad Crowell 8:30
Yeah, that's exciting.
Lesley Logan 8:30
If you remember, we used to, up until last year, do it a little week long coaching program for Pilate instructors and studio owners. And we loved it, and it was amazing, and then we stopped doing it, and we're like, we're never doing it again, because it was there's parts of it that were amazing, were amazing, and some of the parts were overwhelming, and they were overwhelming.
Brad Crowell 8:48
Yeah, not just for us, but also for the attendees.
Lesley Logan 8:51
Mostly, for, yeah, it was less about there's less about us, more, so we have been working behind the scenes on making some amazing changes, and now we have a new Mini.
Brad Crowell 9:01
We've got a mini Mini, but we're just still calling it Mini, yeah, but yeah, it's only three days, not seven.
Lesley Logan 9:06
Yes. And you get all the best parts of Mini, which is a workshop on how to actually attract clients you want to work with. Then you get to use Lesley on Demand, this amazing tool. So we'll help you with your I Help statement. And then you get to join office hours with Brad and I, includes breath work, and we're going to answer all the running questions about your business on this call. It's so much fun. You can see if Agency is right for you, but also you can get questions answered. And, you know, take that information with you.
Brad Crowell 9:31
Just come party about your biz. It's gonna be good. Go to prfit.biz/mini prfit.biz/mini yeah.
Lesley Logan 9:39
And then July, yeah, I believe we actually start on the 24th but maybe we start on the 25th Don't ask me. We start end of July, and we go to August 17th, and it's the OPC Summer Tour. You're gonna go to opc.me/tour to get your tickets for and see the cities we're going to. We are going up.
Brad Crowell 9:58
We teach in Phoenix on the 25th So we could go down on the 24th.
Lesley Logan 10:01
Oh, okay, cool. You know, we'll do whatever. Maybe we'll go to the Oatman Ranch and we'll go play with the donkeys.
Brad Crowell 10:08
I don't remember that. I
Lesley Logan 10:10
Yeah, I told you about it. I told you about it.
Brad Crowell 10:12
Oatman.
Lesley Logan 10:12
I think it's called Oatman. Um, anyways, um, you guys, we're gonna start in Phoenix, and we go to San Diego, then it's Los Angeles, and it's Santa Barbara, and then maybe a city in between, and then San Francisco, and then Sacramento, and then Eureka, and then Portland and Seattle, Vancouver, yes, you just heard Vancouver, Canada, and then Kamloops, Canada and Calgary, Canada. And then we're gonna come down into Idaho and Utah.
Brad Crowell 10:42
We're gonna swing through Montana for a bit. We want to see glacier.
Lesley Logan 10:45
Well, for vacation, yeah, so, but, you know.
Brad Crowell 10:48
We'll be posting about a coffee shop and white fish, probably.
Lesley Logan 10:52
Yeah. Well, at any rate, you want to go to opc.me/tour to snag your tickets. And by the way, we end in Las Vegas, and that class already sold out.
Brad Crowell 10:59
I know it's insane. I can't believe it. Bam.
Lesley Logan 11:02
24 hours. Class sold out. We already have.
Brad Crowell 11:03
20 seats in.
Lesley Logan 11:04
Yeah.
Brad Crowell 11:05
That's.
Lesley Logan 11:06
Well, we did tell them if they wanted us to come, and they did. Yeah, yeah, opc.me/tour of course, we are sponsored again by Balanced Body and Contrology. We're bringing our Contrology equipment. It's gonna be so much fun. Then in September we are going to be in the U.K. We have two amazing stops, Leeds and Essex. Leeds, you can get two day pass there. There's only three spots left, so.
Brad Crowell 11:31
Only three spots left in Leeds.
Lesley Logan 11:33
At the time that we're recording. So we're recording this, obviously, before Juneteenth, so you never know. And then in Essex, we actually opened up the day passes, because we're doing Essex on a Tuesday and a Wednesday. So you could do an all day Tuesday.
Brad Crowell 11:44
You'll come out for the day from the city.
Lesley Logan 11:46
All day Wednesday. We know it's not easy to get two days away during the week, but also it's really hard to get away on the weekends, so we offered you two options, during the weekend, on the weekends, opc.me/uk that's where you want to go. And then, of course, in October and come with us to Cambodia. Holy moly, we are insanity. Have you heard this, this schedule, and then he wanted to take me camping in here, guys.
Brad Crowell 12:08
Oh, we're going.
Lesley Logan 12:08
We're going camping, apparently.
Brad Crowell 12:10
Yeah, we're going camping somewhere in there.
Lesley Logan 12:11
Very expensive storage that we live in sometimes. So Cambodia.
Brad Crowell 12:16
Oh, you mean our house?
Lesley Logan 12:17
Yeah, I love it so much. But Cambodia is you'll have, you'll be at our house in Cambodia, and we do retreat, stuff and workshops and temple tours.
Brad Crowell 12:28
Oh men, it's just gonna be amazing.
Lesley Logan 12:30
So go to crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com. The plural is on the crows and the retreats, but not the nest. So there you go. All right, before we got to get to Stephanie, but before we get there, Brad, do we have a question to answer?
Brad Crowell 12:44
We do @creativesoulpilates on Instagram asked, hey LL, are you coming down to the IE anytime soon? IE is Inland Empire, which is Southern California. Basically, it's between Los Angeles and Riverside so, or I think actually, I think actually, Riverside is also considered IE.
Lesley Logan 13:04
I think that Riverside is the IE, is it also, is Covina the IE?
Brad Crowell 13:07
Covina and West Covina, I think they're south of L.A. I don't think they're technically IE.
Lesley Logan 13:12
Like the Orange County.
Brad Crowell 13:13
Closer to Orange County, I believe.
Lesley Logan 13:14
Well, anyways.
Brad Crowell 13:16
If I'm wrong, hit me. Let me know.
Lesley Logan 13:20
If you all want to know L.A. well, go watch Everybody's in L.A. Just watch, at least the first episode.
Brad Crowell 13:25
You know what, I'm 1,000% wrong. Covina is directly south of Glendora and Azusa, so it's where the 15 cuts down. Nope, it's not the 15. So it's towards Pomona. It's the beginning of IE, West Covina and Covina are like the beginning of the San Bernardino Valley, I think.
Lesley Logan 13:46
Well, at any rate, to answer your question, we are not going to be anywhere near the IE, we are going to be in Toluca Lake. I guess that's not far from the IE, but it is. We are going to be, basically, we're in the valley of Los Angeles, close to Burbank. Right? Toluca Lake is like Burbank.
Brad Crowell 14:01
Toluca Lake is Studio City, Burbank. It's between the two near Van Nuys, like, yeah.
Lesley Logan 14:07
It's gonna be on our West Coast Pop Up Tour.
Brad Crowell 14:09
I'm so excited.
Lesley Logan 14:10
I know.
Brad Crowell 14:11
I freaking love Los Angeles so much, and I cannot wait to just be back. Like, I literally used to live, like, two streets that were from where the studio is.
Lesley Logan 14:20
Well, and also, for years, we're actually using the studio that we did the Accessories Flash Card photo shoot at. So I actually got to live in this part of L.A. for a week and now I can say I lived in that part of the valley. It's really, really fun. So we had Strong Body, but it's part of our summer tour. And so you got to come, because here's the deal. We, when we go to L.A. we typically go to hang out with friends, and we pretty much try to avoid working as much as possible, but because we're on tour.
Brad Crowell 14:47
It's true.
Lesley Logan 14:47
And we want an excuse to see L.A. again, we are making a stop as we're going by so go to opc.me/la for tickets to the L.A. event. Or if you go to opc.me/tour, you'll see San Diego, Santa Barbara. You know, because people who live in L.A. also live very far from the center of L.A., typically, so like Poway, as the San Diego city. So you know, there's some really good stuff. But thanks, you guys. You guys, we have a really easy place for you to send your questions in. You can text us at 310-905-5534, or you can actually submit your questions or a win at beitpod.com/questions.
Brad Crowell 15:27
That's right beitpod.com/questions.
Lesley Logan 15:28
Now you can just do it there, and it's so easy and you can be anonymous if you want to. You can whatever you want.
Brad Crowell 15:36
Well, you know, so for the Friday episodes, we celebrate wins. And now, instead of people sending DMs, you know, fill out this form, it actually makes it easier for you, too. It's clear what it is, and we know what's going on, all the things. So beitpod beitpod.com/questions
Lesley Logan 15:54
And you could put your win there too. I know, it's, which we didn't want to have two links. We just want to have one. So it's we could have called it quest wins.
Brad Crowell 16:01
Quest wins. We could have, we could have really gone over well with trying to figure out how to spell that.
Lesley Logan 16:07
All right. All right.
Brad Crowell 16:08
Well, look, stick around, this, we're going to talk about slow living. This, this break will be fast, but the, but the conversation about Stephanie O'Dea is going to be really exciting. So we'll be right back.
Brad Crowell 16:21
All right. Now, welcome back. Let's talk about Stephanie O'Dea. She's a writer, she's a coach, she's a teacher and a speaker who helps people embrace slow living.
Lesley Logan 16:30
She's a teacher and a speaker. I like how that sounded.
Brad Crowell 16:33
She's a teacher, teacher and a speaker. Her journeys began in 2008 on a viral blog where she used her Crock-Pot every single day for an entire year, landed her on national TV and got her a book deal, and that, she said, that journey lasted for about eight years before things really changed with the introduction of the Instant Pot. Fascinating. She said, when that, when that trend rose, she realized faster isn't always better. After stepping back to unplug, she discovered her true gift was helping others reach their goals in a slow, steady and sustainable way, a mission she now shares through her Slow Living podcast.
Lesley Logan 17:13
I, so, so first of all, okay, I would just have to say, I was on her pod, and I was like, okay, like, this is great, you know, this is wonderful. And I really enjoyed her. I thought she was so sweet. And then she came on the pod, and, like, I was like, I'm in the presence of, like, a celebrity, like I and I was like, oh my God, she's, I'm sure, like your mom and your grandma and, like all these people, probably like, no, she is. And I'm sitting here going, oh my God, who are you? Oh God.
Brad Crowell 17:48
Well, she, not only that, she is really fun.
Lesley Logan 17:53
Oh yeah.
Brad Crowell 17:53
And, like, snarky, and, you know, like the things that she was saying, she's got a lot of experience. You know, going through life. And I appreciated it, and I enjoyed it. And it was, it was, it was a really great conversation. In fact, I feel like it's probably a conversation, y'all, that you would want to save. So if you have not had a chance to go back and listen, I would recommend it. But.
Lesley Logan 18:20
So slow living, you guys, stands for look only within. So, like, trusting your inner voice and intuition to find answers. And I really love that we talked about, like, slow living is meeting your goals. It meets all of them, but it just says it like, as you said in the bio, like in this nice, sustainable way, some of us are, like, really trying to make things happen fast. And this one book that I read every morning was like whenever we're trying to make things happen fast, but it usually means we want to skip ahead. And unfortunately, when you skip ahead, you miss out on like the muscle strength and experience you need for where you're going to go. So then when you get there, not only are you further along than you are strong enough to be, but now you don't have the skill set to handle the problems you have, and so that's why you don't get to skip ahead. So I really do believe it's sustainable to hit your goals in a way that is steady and allows you to evaluate and you and trust your gut intuition. And she said, she encouraged you to decide your next best step when you're in a good mood and not when you're feeling down. And I was like, that is so common sense and fucking brilliant.
Brad Crowell 19:24
Yeah. No, that makes total sense. I mean, when we make decisions in a bad place, you know, we're making reactionary decisions. We're not making proactionary decisions. I just wanted to throw out there the 34% Rotten Tomatoes review on an Adam Sandler movie from 2006 called Click.
Lesley Logan 19:44
There, okay.
Brad Crowell 19:45
Which is exactly what you're just describing. It's all about how he somehow got a magic remote that fast forwarded through what, at the time, he was like all the bullshit so that he can get to what he wants to do in his life.
Lesley Logan 20:00
Oh, but then, and then he got there and he missed everything.
Brad Crowell 20:03
He missed everything.
Lesley Logan 20:04
Yeah, yeah. I was in sixth grade, or fifth grade, when I read a story about a little boy who had this magic string, and he could just pull the string and it could, like, skip ahead. So like, he was, like, not ready for a test, so like, he pulled the string and he like, skipped ahead. Now he's in next grade. And then he, like, pulled the string a little bit more. And then he was in high school and, like, it's the same thing, I think, Click just came from the story of this little kid who pulled the string too much. At any rate, I, I wanted to say, like, going back to the good mood or bad mood. Sometimes when I'm in my email inbox, I start to get a little overwhelmed. Because, like, the only emails I have to respond to often require a little bit of research, of like, they're like, like, someone's asking me to do this event, and I already said I would do it, but I have given them rates before, and they like, want rates again, and they asked for my rates to be lowered, and I but, but they were like, oh, can we get your rates? And also, like, this is our first time so it would be great if you could lower your rates to help us support this event. And I was immediately pissed. I was so pissed off because I was like, what are you talking about? Like, what? And so I was like, and so, you know, I got this email. I'm really behind on my emails. I'm gonna you will have response from me by the end of this week. And I was like, because nothing good is going to come from what I want to say in this moment. And I just need to be able to get angry and feel my feelings, and also go, well, why am I in a bad mood now? Like, what happened? Well, it's not intentional. She personally did not intend to piss me off in any way, but it's the, this is, by the way, guys, this is like a constant, like, I'm asked is my inbox is mostly people asking me to do free things, or to negotiate the rates I say of things and so.
Brad Crowell 21:50
Or to partner up, which means.
Lesley Logan 21:52
Partner up, which means do it for free.
Brad Crowell 21:53
Do it for free.
Lesley Logan 21:54
And so, it's, so by the time I got to this email, I had already had gone through like seven people wanting to do things for free, and then this person wants to pay me, but not as much and I was like, I gotta walk away, because I have an appropriate response. I'm sure we can get to a place where it's gonna work for both of us. But I just was angry. And so, so it's always better if you're not in a good place to just like, give yourself a permission. And this goes to slow living, if, if my response to her at the end of the week means she can't work with me, then I don't. It wasn't for me, you know, like, like, slow living, like, I really love what Stephanie's talking about, because we used to live that fast pace. Do, do, do, do, do. We were in Australia, then Spain, then, then New York, then U.K. and it's like, and I don't actually want to do that anymore, and so, so I think it's like, really.
Brad Crowell 22:47
We have tried to be more intentional. Before it was like, oh, you're willing to pay us, we'll be there, even if it's like, stupid, you know, for us to travel that way.
Lesley Logan 22:56
Also, by the way, when you're new in an industry or new at a thing, I do think that you need to get your feet wet. I do think you need to, I want to make sure, like, I don't want any Pilates instructors like working for free, but I also sometimes you do, and so I think, like, I never flew anywhere for free, but I definitely wouldn't travel for the rates I used to travel on. However, I because I was willing to say yes to things and learn from those experience. I could keep changing my contract had I had my current situation set up now, well, one, I wouldn't know all the things I wouldn't have known all the things that drive me crazy when I travel, and it's like, no, I do need my own hotel room, and I actually do need pistachio milk for my coffee or something like, I know that, what I need, right? I sound like Mariah Carey. But, you know what? I know why Mariah Carey is now like that, because sometimes you don't have what you need, and then you perform at your best and you don't have it. So I wouldn't know all the things that really helped me be the person I am had I not gone through that stuff. So I don't think anyone should skip ahead. But also, at some point you have to go, okay, hold on. Do I need this, right? So anyways, I also just want to say share, to quote, discipline is just choosing between what you want now and what you want most, and just going back to like you saying like now we're more intentional. It's like, it can be really flattering to be asked to do certain things and so, but also, what do we want most? And so is it like, is that part of the most, or is that actually just flattering? And then, you know, so you all have to decide, like, when you're saying yes or doing things like, what is ahead? Is it on the journey what you want most? But I really liked her, her definition, her quote of discipline, because most people think it's like, means like.
Brad Crowell 24:41
But she was full of them.
Lesley Logan 24:42
She was so, I mean, there's so much stuff I have to go.
Brad Crowell 24:45
She defined FOMO as Figure Only Myself Out. Figure Only Myself Out. So, meaning, stop the comparison game, where we're probably scrolling the gram and then beating ourselves up about it, right? And she said, she also said, it's not too late to start now, right? So you can, instead of FOMO, as in, you're missing, you know, you're not doing what they're doing on Instagram. FOMO is figuring only myself out. What do you want to do? You know? How are you going to get you know? What is your path? Where are you going? You know, and you can start to figure that stuff out today. She said, Start pivoting. It's time. Let's do this, right? She also emphasized, setbacks are normal. And she said something that I laughed about, because we are, one of the things that we say a lot in OPC is, if you only have five minutes, just do five moves, you know, like, don't, don't make a big thing out of not having time. And we just had somebody quit the other day, oh, I only was able to log into class once this week, you know, and I'm barely getting to it, right, and so they quit their entire membership, you know. And now I'm, like, thinking that I'm gonna email her back and say, hey, that's okay, you know, like, think about that, even if you came, you know, only five minutes in a week, would it be worth it to start now and be consistent with five minutes and then consistent with 10 minutes.
Lesley Logan 26:26
And also, like, what are you going to do without it? You're going to somehow be better at doing your Pilates some, somewhere, somewhere else, no you're not.
Brad Crowell 26:33
No, clearly you're not. Clearly, if they can't log in at home, they're obviously not going to a studio to do it, right?
Lesley Logan 26:40
And also, some people actually only do it once a week, and that's fine. Like, I only log into Max HBO on Sundays for John Oliver. Like, you know what I mean? Like, and I don't go. So I think we have to stop putting so much pressure on ourselves that it has to be all or nothing. If that's how you're living your life, you're going to miss out on a lot of things.
Brad Crowell 26:59
Yeah. And Stephanie said, you know, if you're doing a 30-day challenge, but it takes you 45 days. You did not fail. You still did the challenge. You did it on your time, and that's okay.
Lesley Logan 27:12
That's FOMO, Figuring Only Myself Out.
Brad Crowell 27:15
That's right, yeah. And she said, you'd be way more proud of yourself for going even if you have to take a day off, right? I was just thinking about the video you showed me last night about the one-legged.
Lesley Logan 27:28
The Pope, yes.
Brad Crowell 27:29
No, no, but that's funny. The one-legged athlete.
Lesley Logan 27:33
Yes, the Nike girl.
Brad Crowell 27:35
Yeah, who, the reason that she is now the Nike girl is because she entered herself into a competition. She, she has a, like, a bionic leg. I don't really know what all the right terms are there, but she's, she, she was trying to do a.
Lesley Logan 27:54
Looks like a thrust, a clean.
Brad Crowell 27:57
Yeah, she was trying to do a clean with a barbell, right, and.
Lesley Logan 28:00
That's hard with two legs, I'm just gonna be really honest, and she has one leg that doesn't really bend like her other leg does, so, yeah.
Brad Crowell 28:06
So she, so she, she's in the middle of a stadium with all these people, everyone's watching. There's, like, you know, all the things, and she's being filmed, and she doesn't know she's being filmed, and she, she fails. She fails. She like, gets it halfway up and just can't go and drops the bar. And she's frustrated with herself, she's like, okay.
Lesley Logan 28:24
She's also starting to cry and really emotional.
Brad Crowell 28:27
So she, she drops the bar. Well, she leans back over. She's like, all right, I got it. She, you literally can see her say shit, you know, on this video, right? And, and there's no audio to it, but she's like, shit. So she leans over, and she tries again and she fails again, and it's this point that she, like, totally breaks. Obviously, she's been frustrated all day long, and she breaks, and she literally starts crying, and she and it's super emotional, right? And she leans over and she like, puts her head on her arms, and she, you could see herself make the decision, I'm not going to quit here. I'm going to get this, through this even though I probably have disqualified myself already from whatever this competition is, because I didn't get it up on the first try, I didn't get it up on the second try, and she tries a third time, and she succeeds. And it is like this heartfelt, amazing experience. And I, I have to imagine that she is more proud of herself for finishing, completing it, for being just making the decision to stay with it, than she was, you know, than, obviously, she quit, she would, she'd be beating herself up.
Lesley Logan 29:40
Well and I think first of all, I got chills and emotional just like thinking about it, because I like, every time I watch, I've watched it multiple times. And trust me, you guys, she's on a list of like, okay, I gotta email her publicist. I gotta get her on the pod. I have so many questions. But everyday, I talk to women who are beating themselves up for how little they've done, that they think they've done, which, by the way, is more than most people will do in a day, right? And it.
Brad Crowell 30:08
Specially moms.
Lesley Logan 30:08
Frustrates me, because none, never have you ever shamed yourself into doing the thing you said you were going to do. It doesn't work. That is not how our brains work. Our brains avoid shame and judgment. It doesn't feel good, it doesn't bring your dopamine up. It's not what motivates your brain to do shit. And so we have to do some FOMO, figuring out myself, figuring my own self out, and start congratulating ourselves we did fucking five minutes. You know, like, first of all, if you don't, no one else is. No one else is going to come up and congratulate you on things that they don't know have happened and they won't know have happened. That's why we do the FYFs. And it is, do you know how many people won't share their wins? I don't want to share, it's so small. Okay, but you do understand that that's going to inspire someone else. So, anyways, be nice to yourself. Get the FOMO.
Brad Crowell 31:02
Be nice to yourself.
Lesley Logan 31:03
The new FOMO.
Brad Crowell 31:06
You know, I think that decision to stay with it, to be consistent, will, will be so much more gratifying over the long run, even if it's smaller increments than you know, whatever the prescribed amount is, or whatever that thing is, you know. So, that, I love this FOMO, I love this idea of figuring only myself out. It helps get rid of that comparison energy, you know, and create a safe space for you to succeed in, so, very cool. Very, very cool. All right, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna cover those Be It Action Items from Stephanie O'Dea.
Brad Crowell 31:48
Okay, welcome back. Finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What are the bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Stephanie O'Dea? She said, hey, funny enough, I'm gonna tell you to journal, but I'm gonna tell you how to journal in a very structured way.
Lesley Logan 32:07
I, but I also, it's the only person I let journal, like, say journal, so.
Brad Crowell 32:12
So it's funny because, I mean, I've heard Lesley say this about four, well, three, 250 times now, hey, if you're going to tell you know, use journaling as your, your Be It Action Item, you have to give us a structure how to do it. And she started laughing, and she said, I can do that. In fact, she has a free guided daily journaling worksheet that you can print out and you can write on if you go to stephanieodea.com/daily we will put that link in the show notes, but she's a big proponent it gives you structure. It tells you how to journal, what to journal about. It gives you prompts. But she also specifically mentioned that picking up a pen and paper, or pencil and paper, is different than typing on a computer. It just puts you in a different mindset. I mean, she's a writer, right? She got a book deal, she wrote a blog for eight years about cooking, right? She's like, constantly, constantly writing. And so she definitely would know she's the authority. She said that her tool will help you get in the right mindset. It gives you action steps, consistent, and consistency, it builds the muscle of slow, sustainable growth. And she said, your brain engages differently when writing by hand, which I think is interesting, and it helps you move towards your goals, even in off days.
Lesley Logan 33:35
And also, your handwriting does not have to be good for it to actually still do the thing it does with your brain. I write things down which I like, which is why I like my reMarkable tablet. I actually don't even need to look at the tablet again. I remember it, but I.
Brad Crowell 33:48
That's how I used to study for tests, hard copy my own notes.
Lesley Logan 33:51
My nails are too long now, and it's, it's really annoying to type things. I'm like, I'm trying to learn how to type with the nails that.
Brad Crowell 33:59
Hi, buddy. Are you trying to learn how to type, too?
Lesley Logan 34:01
Yeah, Bayon's learning how to type. He's also truly found his voice this week. He's.
Brad Crowell 34:05
It's pretty funny.
Lesley Logan 34:06
He's like, oh, I'm gonna bark at this thing. And it's like, never did.
Brad Crowell 34:12
Well, yeah.
Lesley Logan 34:12
Anyway.
Brad Crowell 34:13
His trip to Joshua Tree was a win. Well, you know what one thing that she said that I that I laughed about. She said, look, once you get into a routine, if something changes the routine, it's okay, because you, she said, you are not a spreadsheet. And I was like, oh, that's a really good idea.
Lesley Logan 34:37
There's actually a whole study on, you know how, to go back to the long intro we had about politics, there's a study that shows like the more rigid your thinking is, the more likely you are to get stuck in beliefs that are not serving you. And so I'm a big habits coach, mindset coach, all those different things, but you'll notice that, like, I'm always going, giving grace. Giving lots of grace and kind of rolling with it. And I really love what she said here, because I have a morning routine and I have three hours, but, I don't have, oh, I have to be out the door at 6:01, otherwise it's, like, I just get outside.
Brad Crowell 35:13
Facing the ice bowl, rub the banana peel, 6:11, take the elevator from 6:17.
Lesley Logan 35:20
Yeah, yeah.
Brad Crowell 35:21
So dumb.
Lesley Logan 35:22
Right? I don't live like that. I do have and I post my schedule of the day with my outfit of the day. I'm like, here's my outfit and here's the schedule. And it might look rigid, but you have to understand, like, most of the things on there take 20 minutes, but I gave it the full hour so that I can be flexible. I can, I can roll with it. If I need to have a little bit more time with something, if I want to take a longer walk, I can. If I have longer Pilates, I take a shorter walk. And so by not being rigid, allows my habits and routines be very malleable and to serve me and what I need that day. And I think that's really important. We're not a spreadsheet. Okay, there's so many, you guys have to listen to the episode because I'm, she actually gave us so many Be It Action Items, to be honest. So I'm just gonna take a few. Celebrate your process, even if it's not linear. We actually have talked about that 17 times on this episode already today. So you celebrate your process, even if, it won't be linear, it is impossible. It never is, don't, you don't have to read the book. Go look at the cover of the book, called The Middle. The Messy Middle. It's bright yellow. When you see the graph, that graph of it going up down, up down, up down. It's like a heart rate monitor, and it's going up, but it's always going up, even though it might go down way lower than it did. And it goes up, Brad's looking at it right now, down, up, down. But like.
Brad Crowell 36:34
It's not even a graph. It's like a squiggly line that goes in a square, in a circle and a triangle.
Lesley Logan 36:38
Yeah, but if you take a bigger picture, it goes to the end. It's always going up. It's like the stock market. The stock market is not linear on the app, it goes up and down, up and down, up and down. But guess what? It always ends up. It's up, right? So hopefully, I don't know what it is today, guys. Anyways, she also said, use gold stars, stickers or a visible chart to track your small wins. Yes, it's a behavior from childhood, charts from childhood, but it's very important. You need to see it visibly. And then she said, choose non-food rewards, like a cozy nap or a pedicure or something like that. Like the things that you feel like are indulgent and you would never do, those should be your rewards. Make a list of them. That's what my therapist really had me do. And then she also reminded us, you can absolutely get to where you want to go, but you have to trust in yourself that you can do that and you'll get there when you get there. I'm Lesley Logan.
Brad Crowell 37:29
And I'm Brad Crowell.
Lesley Logan 37:29
Thank you so much for listening. What a longer recap we had today. We were very chatty, so we hope you enjoyed it. Send your questions and your wins in we want to celebrate them. And we want to answer your questions. So beitpod.com/questions and then make sure you share this episode with a friend, especially the Slow Living episode, because Stephanie has, obviously, so many great tips. She is amazing. And check out her journaling prompts. I know I am. Until next time, Be It Till You See It.
Brad Crowell 37:53
Bye for now.
Lesley Logan 37:55
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Brad Crowell 38:37
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Lesley Logan 38:42
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Brad Crowell 38:47
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Lesley Logan 38:54
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Brad Crowell 38:57
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Brad Crowell 39:12
Now, welcome back. Welcome back. I hope you're loving life. Welcome back. Let's start that again.
Lesley Logan 39:19
He's just waiting for me to smile.
Brad Crowell 39:21
I was, I was, my, my mind did a little loop there. All right, welcome back.
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