Are you wearing your exhaustion as a badge of honor or staying loyal to a fault? High-performance coach Molly Asplin joins Lesley Logan to unpack why burnout doesn’t always look like a breakdown. In this episode, she explains how treating your recovery like an athlete and recognizing early “orange flags” can keep ambitious women from running on empty. Tune in to learn how to bookend your days, take bold moves while you’re still in the seas
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In this episode you will learn about:
- Why burnout can feel like restlessness and not exhaustion.
- The crucial difference between a high achiever and an overachiever.
- Recognizing the "orange flags" before you hit a breaking point.
- Strategies to pivot careers without immediately quitting your job.
- The simple “bookend” habit that protects your energy daily.
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- Molly’s Free Resource - mollyasplin.com/momentum
Guest Bio:
Molly Asplin is a high-performance coach who helps ambitious women sustain their drive without burning out. A former corporate finance professional, she spent a decade climbing the ladder while quietly questioning whether success on paper truly aligned with who she was. After navigating her own seasons of burnout and transition, Molly built a coaching practice dedicated to helping high achievers recalibrate, pivot with intention, and build lives that energize rather than exhaust them. As an entrepreneur and mom of three, she intimately understands the pressure to 'do it all.' Through her coaching and her podcast, The Modern High Performer (formerly Dream It, Do It), Molly blends practical strategy with mindset work, guiding women to manage their energy like athletes, recognize early “orange flags,” and take bold, aligned action without blowing up their lives. Today, she partners with CEOs, founders, and senior leaders to provide the outside perspective they need to operate well under pressure—proving that true high performance never requires sacrificing your health, your family, or waging a war with your own ambition.
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Episode Transcript:
Molly Asplin 0:00
Are you loyal to a fault? Like this comes up for a lot of high achievers. They're associating, like, loyalty with strength, and so like, I need to stick this out. I'm a loyal person. I want like approval. I do what I'm saying I'm gonna do, but it it might just be that it's time to recalibrate.
Lesley Logan 0:20
Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.
Lesley Logan 1:02
Hi, Be It babe. Okay. This is amazing. This interview is amazing. Get your pen and paper out. You're also going to absolutely want something that she is offering you at the end. And I mean it in like, those of you who like a journal, you're gonna like this like a like a planner. Molly Asplin is our guest, and she is an incredible coach for high achieving women, which is very different we talk about, than over achieving. We talk about burnout, we talk about prioritization of self. I really loved how she presented burnout and prioritizing yourself, and like ways to do it. It's different than I know we talked about a lot here, but it's different than we've ever talked about it. So I really am excited for you to hear this. I absolutely think you're gonna share it with a friend. There are some definite signs your friend is going to need this. And so I'm just gonna let us get into it. Here's Molly Asplin.
Lesley Logan 1:49
Hey, Be It babe. I am super excited for today's convo, because when I was looking over like, what we could talk about, I was like, oh yeah, preventing burnout. I'm well, we're all in. In fact, I just had, literally had someone asked me, how do you know you need a rest? And I was like, if you were waiting until you need a rest to take a rest, we have a problem. But our guest today is Molly Asplin, and she is amazing. Molly, can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at?
Molly Asplin 2:12
I can. I'm so happy to be here, Lesley. I'm a high performance coach, so I, too, am a recovering perfectionist, workaholic. I have beat burnout a few different times, and so I very much connect with what your what your friend just asked you. But yeah, I work with high achieving women who feel like there could be something more or something different in their life. I spent 10 years in corporate finance and was sort of driving to work every morning feeling like, is this really it? And I feel like there's something different for me, and I was getting promoted and moving up in the company and stuff, but I'm like, this, this doesn't feel like me. And so I had to make some hard decisions that sort of felt guilty for me at the time, because I'm like, This is what I'm supposed to be doing. This is what looks really good on paper. It's responsible. But then I pivoted and created, created my own coaching business, and now I really help women just find what they're good at and like, what they really feel like they have a strength in, and either pivot in that direction or, like, do something fulfilling on the side that brings more of that into their life. It might be a career, career transition, or it might just be stepping into more alignment with who they are.
Lesley Logan 3:23
I love this journey because I feel it feels very familiar. I also want to just like a couple things. I want to point out there's a very difference to an overachiever and a high achiever, right? Like high achieving is not this thing that you have to like stop being or you should feel bad about. Overachieving is kind of like when we do a little, we don't know when enough is enough.
Molly Asplin 3:43
Yeah. Like, overcompensating, right?
Lesley Logan 3:45
Yes, yes. I also, I also really liked, you know, like, we all go on kind of a journey, and you talked a bit about, like, burnout, like, can you maybe share, like, what burnout looked like for you? Because I think it's a little, I think it's actually very similar for a lot of people, just different clothes, but maybe.
Molly Asplin 4:01
Totally. So I was not having like, panic attacks or anything like that. I started to feel very restless, and I started to feel like my days were very monotonous and boring, I'll even say, and I started to feel like I was losing my edge, and I'm like, am I just, like, not ambitious anymore, or, like, what's going on here? And, you know, you hear, like, the rat race or the hamster wheel like that, all felt very real to me. And it was just like, yeah, is this really it? And so for me, it came in the form of, like, very mundane, like, I don't think I can do this my whole life. And then it led me to, like, question my ambition, when really I just I needed a change.
Lesley Logan 4:45
I thank you, because I do think people are expecting the burnout to be a panic attack. They're in bed, they can't do anything. And it can actually be that you could be showing up every day to work, but bored and blah, like not overwhelmed or underwhelmed.
Molly Asplin 5:01
Like, not alive, and I'm like, an alive person, so I'm like, something, something is up here. Yeah.
Lesley Logan 5:08
Okay, so then, how do you, I guess, like, so, how do you go from, like, recognizing that you're burnt out to knowing, like, what tools to help? You know, because I do think it's a real question people like, how, like, what? How do you prioritize? How do you not burn out? And it's like, some of the obvious questions are, like, well get sleep and drink some water. But also, like, where do you start? Because once you're in the ditch, it's kind of hard to know where, how to, like, climb out of it.
Molly Asplin 5:33
Well and it's interesting Lesley, because as a high achiever, and probably some of your listeners can relate to this, I was like, oh, well, I just need to get the next promotion, or, like, I just need a different job. Like, I start, I just, like, looked outside of myself, and I did some of those things, but then nothing was fixing the problem. I'm like, a few months later, I was like, back in the same cycle, and so I realized, like, I need to go inward on this, and I need to figure out, like, what's really important to Molly, and I so that's really when I went on my own journey of, like, self-discovery. And I started getting more into personal development. I started taking care of myself a lot better, like you said, sleep, water, working out. I, like, started carving out time for myself in the morning, journaling. And those things sound cliche, but like when you I think there is a compound effect with them, and for me, it was probably, like, after six months of doing that, I'm like, I I'm gonna make a transition of some sort, and like, I'm gonna do things, something that's like, way more aligned with my strengths and skills that I really want to use.
Lesley Logan 6:37
Oh yeah, I am getting to, like, taking that time to like, who is who is Lesley, who is Molly? Like, I don't, I'm sure most of us haven't taken the time to do that since we were like a child. And even then, when did you have the time? Except when, like, you're a little kid, and they're like, Okay, what color is your hair? Like you're practicing, you know those things, figuring that step out. You mentioned, like, I'll just take another promotion. I resonate with that so much I had to quit a job because I was like, they're gonna promote me again, and I don't have to say no, like, I'm such a high achiever, I'm like, they're gonna offer me this gig, and I'm not gonna, I don't know how to say no, so I'm just gonna quit.
Molly Asplin 7:14
Well, and high achievers that does come up, they're like, I wish I would just get laid off. Some of them will tell that to me, because they're like, I don't want to do this anymore. But like, I'm not going to decide to do like they wish they would kind of be forced out.
Lesley Logan 7:27
Here's a sign.
Molly Asplin 7:29
Yeah, that's a big sign. That's a big one.
Lesley Logan 7:31
Okay, so then now that you, like, have gone through the burnout, you've gone the other side. You obviously like, help people with this. What are, looking back, like, what are some things that maybe we could see as, like, orange flags before the red flag of bored or, you know, for some people, panic attacks, like, what are some signs that, like, we're a little bit getting close to the tank is empty?
Molly Asplin 7:54
Okay, so this is a big one, and usually once I name it, people are like, Oh yeah, I'm doing that, or I have done that, and it's, are you loyal to a fault like this comes up for a lot of high achievers. They're associating like, loyalty with strength. And so, like, I need to stick this out. I'm a loyal person. I want like approval. I do what I'm saying, I'm gonna do, but it, it might just be that it's time to recalibrate. And so that was a big one for me. Like loyalty to a fault. If you find yourself defending what you're doing more than you're enjoying it. But like defending meaning, like you're complaining about it a lot and you're like, but it's really flexible, but how life is.
Lesley Logan 8:36
Yes, and by the way, this is not your job. It's just two ladies, like, sometimes this is your friends or your family members or your boyfriend or your partner.
Molly Asplin 8:43
That's so true, Lesley, and so you'll you'll kind of know, like, now that I'm saying it, hopefully it brings awareness to it, but you'll notice like, wow, I'm really, like, kind of complaining about this, but then I'm justifying it. Maybe it's just time to take the facts for the facts and change.
Lesley Logan 9:00
Yeah. Oh, that's a good one. Oh, I see that in so many people. I'm like, I definitely, I definitely can remember when I was doing it with the job that, like, I was good at, I was good at, and I probably had I taken that promotion, would still be there, and I'd make good money and have a very secure in air quotes ish job, but I would, I think I would have been bored, but I remember defending, oh, but, like, they have really good health insurance, or oh, but I get to work around these people, oh, I'm learning a lot, and it's like, yeah, at the at the same time, I'm also not sleeping because I'm so stressed out all the time.
Molly Asplin 9:40
Yeah. Like, it's flexible, but you're not sleeping, so there's a problem.
Lesley Logan 9:43
Yeah, not really, but flexible. Okay, I love those. Those are some good orange oranges flags or just some reflection things to be thinking about. So I guess, like, when you were on your journey, was it because you are a high achiever and you had, like, success, in what you were doing, it just was, you know, not exactly. It was like, all there, is this all there is? What was it like to make the switch? Was there uncertainty? How did you like because I feel like a lot of people, the biggest problem with, like, switching to something new is that, like, well, now I'm a beginner, but over here I'm an advanced expert. Like, it's hard to be a beginner again.
Molly Asplin 10:20
It is. And I mean, I'm a pretty risk averse person, like my background is accounting, like, I'm very analytical, and so I didn't, like make big changes by, like, blowing up my whole world, and like taking this big leap immediately. I did it in a more thoughtful way, which I think a lot of people do relate with. And so what I recommend is, like, starting to take some bold moves, like, while you're in the mundane, the stuck, the orange flags or the red flags, but you can start to make some bold moves. And usually, you know what those are. Like, usually everyone kind of knows, like, oh yeah, I should probably start, like, networking, or talking with Lesley about something, or talking with my, you know, friend who is another high achiever, or I should make a phone call, or I should update my resume, or I should start doing Pilates. Or, like you usually kind of know that, like next bold move, and it's not usually like I'm gonna quit my job tomorrow, for most people, but if you can get in the habit of making one bold, courageous move a day. I do think it, like, keeps the stuck away.
Lesley Logan 11:26
Oh, and also, like, if you think about that, in 30 in a month of 30 days, that's 30 bold moves. It's kind of amazing. I think we have to do five or 10, and that's impossible, and keep the stuck away. Like, I hope you make a sticker of that. So this kind of brings me to something that you're, like, really known for, which is, like, being her now, which is obviously a very be it till you see it kind of a thing, right? Some of the people I know, they're like, they just want, they want to just, like, cut it and go all the way over. They don't want, you know, but I'm always of the I'm also risk averse, because I didn't. I'm not an accountant by any means, and I'm sure every listener already knows that, but I would rather have a runway and, like, you know, like, a slowly, like, yeah, a little bit of a plan. And also, like, okay, as I have this over here, I can let go of this over here, and as this over here, I can let go and then, and then I can make a leap, right? Like, I don't have to have the bridge fully built, but just enough that I can jump off of it and land on my own two feet would be really great. So I'm a big fan, but a lot of people have a hard time because they're like, you know, I don't want to do this anymore. I want to do this over here. So to me, the being her now would kind of help with that, like, I don't know, would it?
Molly Asplin 12:35
100% yeah, you need to, like, practice and start acting as if and walking into that right away. You don't need likely, another degree, you don't need more credentials, you don't need more proof, you don't need more time like you really do have to start embodying that and showing up at it as it, and I've had to do that in like every big transition or pivot. It's like, Well, I gotta just step into it and start acting like that, showing up like that, and then all the it's kind of weird. Lesley, you've experienced, I'm sure, and then all of a sudden it like matches, yeah? And you're like, Oh, I'm living out what I kind of wanted to live out.
Lesley Logan 13:14
Yeah, yeah. It's really, I mean, it's really true. I mean, you know, if you're someone who's like, well, when I have this, then I'll be less busy. It's like, well, if you were less busy, what is something like, what are the things you would do with that time? And then, like, how can you, oh, I would go for a walk around my neighborhood with my dog. Well, how can you just walk up to the sidewalk and back? Like, how can you just start to put that in place and all of a sudden, you know, is that kind of it? Like, it's like, it's like, doing some of the things that that person would be doing.
Molly Asplin 13:42
Doing some of the things like, I'll have women say, like, Well, I would really like to start a podcast someday. And I'm like, Well, why don't you just start the podcast? They're like, Oh, yeah, I guess I could. It's like, we're waiting for something to arrive when you literally can, like, start it now.
Lesley Logan 13:58
Yeah, yeah. And if that scares you, you're like, I don't have an editor. You could just go live on something, you know, you could just, you could even, like, make it small and just go live, start going live, and then save the recording so that you have a podcast when you're ready you know.
Molly Asplin 14:13
Here's another great tactical example, Lesley, I have a high performance client. She's got a great corporate job, and she's like, I really want to get into the self-development space and speak and train. And I'm like, why don't you practice doing that in said corporate job now? She's always like, leading meetings and things. And she's like, Oh yeah, I guess, I guess I could. It's like, practice the skill. Practice like elevating yourself in whatever environment you can right now, because you're going to need that practice for the big stage later anyway.
Lesley Logan 14:45
Well, because I mean, like, and I love this, and it's going to sound like common sense when we say it out loud, but also, I think we all need to hear it like when you see someone speak on stage. That's not the first stage they spoke on. They spoke on stages that were much smaller. They spoke on stage with one person. They, you know, they did, they did the thing before they got invited to the big stage. So you definitely don't want your first invite to be the biggest stage you've ever been on. So starting with the audience or the pond you have is a great way to being her now and getting that experience.
Molly Asplin 15:18
100%
Lesley Logan 15:20
So okay, other ways that you because if you were busy as an accountant and you were high achiever and promoted and all these things, what are some of the ways that you actually made time for being her now to what that like merged into what you're doing now, like, was there some sort of, did you have a whole day to work on this thing, or did you do pockets of time? How did you make this work?
Molly Asplin 15:42
Yeah, I think if you can. I mean, my accounting job was like, you know, nine to five typically, and I started, like, bookending my day with more of the things that I wanted, like, for me, that was my coaching business. And so I would definitely get up before a corporate job and start kind of doing some of these things that I have, building my social media and, like, growing my network, that kind of thing, and then same thing, like in the evening. And I still, I still do this now with like, sort of extracurriculars that I want to pursue. But, yeah, I think you've got to look at what, what do you need to do in that season to, like, pay the bills, or, you know, keep the job, or whatever. You can still do a good job at that while you start to create something else.
Lesley Logan 16:29
Yeah, I kind of, I also like the idea of bookending it, because then you get to start your day with something you want, then you go to work. Yeah, you go to work and you aren't thinking about, Oh, I got that thing on my lunch break. I got that thing like you've already done some stuff. You've, like, kicked the ball into another court, or moved the needle a little bit, and then you get to end your day with that, which makes you get out of said job on time so that you can go to the.
Molly Asplin 16:53
I got a lot more effective at my full time job during that season because I was like, let's do what I need to do at work so that I can get home and build the other thing that I'm excited to build, and then I would always rock it like Saturday mornings, Sunday mornings. You know, it's like, when it when something is yours and it's your baby, or you're wanting to develop it, or try something new, I really think you are excited to do it. I don't think it's like, oh, this other obligation. There's like energy within you that's like, I'm hungry for this pivot or this change. Like, let's see what I can do.
Lesley Logan 17:25
Yeah, well, I think, like, if you're going to do something else, we're gonna add one more thing to your plate. You really have to it does need to be energizing. So that's a sign to me. But like, it's definitely something you're wanting to do if it's actually bringing you energy, versus, like, if it is just like, another thing that feels boring, you're probably doing something that sounds good versus something you want to be doing.
Molly Asplin 17:47
Correct. Yes, for sure.
Lesley Logan 17:49
Okay, so we know that the the recovering over achievers, the high achievers, the perfectionist there's this whole busy badge of honor, or like, I'm so burnt out. Like, there's this like mentality almost, of, like, bragging, you know, like, for a long time it used to be that the like, the there's a the tech bros and the CEO bros, like, I only do two hours of sleep, like, this is, like bragging, of like, how little they took care of themselves. But I actually think I'm, like, on the other side is, like, a lot of people like bragging about burnout, as if, like, they've achieved something and and then we all go, Oh, I know. And, like, we don't go, wow, that is probably not great. What's going on? So how did.
Molly Asplin 18:28
It's kind of weird that we do that, isn't it? Yeah, like, we don't bat an eye. We're like, oh yeah. Same, busy.
Lesley Logan 18:34
Yes, I, yes. Like, almost like, cheering it on. What? What is wrong? How do we prevent that.
Molly Asplin 18:42
I know it's really weird, and I don't, I don't know if it's like that in other countries. Like, I feel like I have friends in Europe, and they're like, y'all like, you Americans are kind of weird. Like, why are you all, like, celebrating that? But it is a problem Lesley, and I think when you actually look at the research, higher performance is driven by, like, a similar cadence as an athlete. Like you can sprint and you can run and you can train hard, but then you better have a recovery day to, like, reset, recalibrate, get your creativity back. Right? And so there's, like, very much the research is there on like, you've got to take, like, a on a weekly basis, a weekly break, and on a monthly basis, another break. And on a, you know, on a yearly basis, the annual vacation, like periods of recharge are really important for a high performer. And you can probably think of people in your life who do that really well, and you will start to notice their energy. And you're like, yeah, she's not talking about burnout, and she's like, crushing it and getting her stuff done and going to bed, and appears to be a great mom, you know, like, you can kind of start to notice it on people, and I started to observe that, and I'm like, that's the edge I want. I don't want, like, the tired, depleted bags under my eyes, like, I want a vibrant, awesome life, and that means, like, I need to rest and take care of myself and recharge. And I can also kick ass on Monday.
Lesley Logan 20:07
Yeah, yeah. One of the, one of the calls I had today, the girl asked, like, how do you know you need to rest? I think we talked about this meeting, and I was like, I do things for myself every single day, so I don't have to wait until my body shuts down to rest. Like, that's, that's actually, like, that's like, your car, like, if you go all the way down to zero all the time, you're actually going to ruin some tubes and other things like that, right? So you got to, before it's empty, you got to fill it back up. And someone goes every day? That's what they are going to say, every day. I'm like, yeah, every day. And I don't think that I'm crazy. Now, I can, I might be more luxurious with my time, because I don't have certain responsibilities that other people have. But every single day, I'm doing something so that I'm actually before I need a rest, taking care of myself. And I think that that goes to that preventing that burnout badge. It's like, I think we actually need to stop going, oh, yeah, you're burnt out, me too, and start going, Whoa. What are you doing for yourself? Like, what if we all as friends started going, Oh, what are you gonna do to, like, keep that from happening tomorrow?
Molly Asplin 21:16
Yeah, that's another way to say that is, like, how are you sustaining I had a client who was just like, my goal is to like she was a realtor and kicking butt. And she's like, I want to sustain my energy through all the seasons, and I don't want to get to the end of the busy season and feel like I didn't take care of myself and now my health took a back burner. And I mean, I've seen people like, Lesley, you have a crap ton of responsibilities. I have a lot of respon, I have three young kids, like, I just don't think it's selfish to, like, carve out the time that I need to then be a better mom and a better business owner. It's not. And I also just heard a gentleman say this, and I was like, oh, that's fascinating. He was saying he's like, some some business owner, very successful. He's like, when people tell me that they're so busy, it immediately makes me not want to give opportunities to them, because it's showing me they can't handle what they have in their life. Like, why would I give them more?
Lesley Logan 22:09
Yes, oh, I do think that that's really interesting. Yeah, I have, I had, I had someone go, Oh, I know you're really busy. And I was like, Oh, who told you that? And they're like, what it just seems like you really, just seems like you're really busy. I said, Oh, I have a lot going on, but I feel great. Look at me. Look at my two heads. And I'm like, I'm like, intentional about bringing that up, because I'm like, one, people, we make assumptions about a lot of people, and then two we, you know, I I have a full schedule, but it's full of things that I've chosen to do, and I've also there's, of course, there's things I don't want to do in my schedule. It happens to all of us, like, I hate a meeting, but like, got to do them sometimes. But then there's things I do to make sure that, like, I can enjoy the other things I have to do, right? Like, we all have things we have to do so, but I love what that guy said, and I think it's important for us to go, Well, how are you sustaining yourself? Like, oh, how are you doing that? And also, maybe you can talk a little bit like, how, how do you know what you need to do to recharge or to prioritize yourself, or to have self care? Because I think some people think it's going to the spa each week. And I actually think it's like, you know, water, sleep.
Molly Asplin 23:19
Totally. I think you I think as you practice this, you start to know what's going to make you feel really good. Like, after this podcast, I'm going to go for a run. It's like, I'm ending my day. I'm in Central time, then I got to go get my kids. And I'm like, I know that if I go for like, a 20 minute run after this podcast, I will, like, reset myself for the evening. And it's kind of, like a good, like, reset for, you know, to go into parenthood, and so, but I've learned that because I've practiced it right, and I know, like that actually makes me feel really good. And, you know, for Lesley, it might be meditating or something like, I think you've got to try some of this on. Yeah, it's usually easy, accessible. It's not usually expensive. Like, it's, I don't think it's usually going to the spa, maybe on a monthly basis, if that's your thing, or whatever. But I think for a lot of people, it's so much can be so much easier than they're making it.
Lesley Logan 24:11
Yeah, I think so. I love that you I love that you brought up that you are going to go for run in the middle of the day, like, as, almost like a switch gears to parenthood. I, you know, like, I, I'm known for having a pretty awesome morning routine, but somebody like, I don't have the time in the morning. Great. Do you have the time at lunch? Do you have the time before? Can you ask the neighbors, parents? Hey, can you do Tuesdays and Thursday I'll do Mondays and Wednesdays. Like, I think, like, we're so consumed with like, I've got to do all of it without that we're not realizing that there's resources around us that we could be using. To go back to that gentleman's point, if people say they're so busy, it means they're not able to handle it also means that they're not able to understand when to say, yes, no. And also, hey, can you do this? So I can do this over here. I can help you here. If you do this here, you know we have resources around us.
Molly Asplin 24:57
Yes, 100% I agree.
Lesley Logan 25:00
Okay. So I also want to talk a little bit about, like, maybe we kind of covered a little bit, but also, like, how do you honor your time? Because I actually am quite impressed that you can go for a run the middle of the day. The reason I have a morning routine is because I can't be trusted with, like, the afternoon routine. So how do you protect that time. Like, what did you have to do? Do you have to give yourself a pep talk. Is it just because you know you're gonna feel so good? Like, what does that look like? Because I think some people go, Oh, I'll do it tomorrow. This call just came in. Oh, my mom needs me. Like, you know.
Molly Asplin 25:30
Yeah, this is such a good question. And I think, I think genuinely, or generally, high achievers are pretty good at, like, time blocking their day and, like, getting their stuff done, you know, if that's what we want to call it. But what I don't think we're always naturally good at is, like, the energy management of that. And so, yeah, in the mornings, I have a morning routine as well Lesley and like that gets me in the state of mind to, like, crush it at work, or to bring the energy. And then I always know like, I'm gonna hit kind of a lull around like noon in my work day. I know that if I can do certain activities in the morning, my energy is like better. It's when I can do like, deep work strategy. Most high achievers are not using their first hour of the work day effectively. You know they're like, input overload, notifications, emails, like social media, Zoom calls, when you really do want to be spending that first hour of your work day doing something more strategic, something more creative, something that you're like, I need to, like, move the needle on this, and I can't just like, squeeze it in the cracks of the day. And so I just started to notice, like, all these trends about my own, like, energy management throughout the day, and I've worked really hard to, like, set up my calendar around that. And I know not everyone has that luxury, but I also work with a lot of corporate clients that I have, and they they'll start blocking out, like, nine to 10am in the morning, and they're like, I'm not no meetings during that time, you know, to the best of their ability. And so I think this is like an edge to almost getting more time back in your schedule, because you you do become a lot more effective.
Lesley Logan 26:52
Yeah. I feel I like that you brought up that like the input I can I feel that, because sometimes I will make the mistake of like, well, let me go into Slack before I go do this project. And it's like.
Molly Asplin 27:22
I know we've all done it. And then you're immediately like, why?
Lesley Logan 27:26
Why did I do that? What was I doing? Because now my head is over here when I need to be on doing this, and I don't. I actually don't have the creative energy to do this. And so I also want to just like, say, like, it sounds a bit like you got to give your you had to give yourself time to be curious and be on experiment mode, which is where it's hard for the perfectionist, because, like, you're gonna it's gonna take some time to figure out the right schedule for you.
Molly Asplin 27:49
It will, because everyone's like, responsibilities do look a little bit different if you can't focus, or you're just distracted constantly, like, you do really want to be thinking about these things, because that means, like, yeah, you're spending time doing stuff. But it doesn't sound like it's effective time. And so I just got, I got sick of having days like that, like, that's that's because that's why I've gotten good at this. Because I was tired of, like, letting my days pass by and being like, what? What did I even do?
Lesley Logan 28:15
Yeah, yeah. I feel that I had a little extra time yesterday. I was like, wow, this one this week is really nice. I have extra time. And then I, like, looked ahead and I was like, oh, you know what, the next few days are a little full. What else is on the schedule for the rest of this week that I could just, like, do with this? I have energy right now. I've got energy. I've got creativity. I'm going to do that. You know, I could check the email one more time, but that's annoying. Like, I'm going to do that, and then I'm going to just take time to give myself something, because I know the next couple days are gonna be full, and it it took me a long time to get there. I used to have a very I mean, I used to take I used to have clients hour by hour by hour, and then, okay, I could only do this during this time. And it was, it worked. It was a hustle season that I could do. But at one point I was like, okay, when I am her and I get to be more in charge of my schedule. Here's what I want to do with these times. And so then when I had, like, a client late cancel, I was like, oh, during that time, I really wanted to be doing this. So I can go do that now, because I had a plan for it. So I think it's it takes time to get you to know yourself, and then also the seasons, because I imagine where you are the winter changes how you prioritize yourself, than you do in the summer.
Molly Asplin 29:20
Yeah, it does. The seasons and, like, everyone has work seasons too, right? Like, work seasonality, you know, like, it's a little bit of a slower work season for me right now. It's, it's June and and so I have the ability to go for a run at 4pm that's cool, but that's not always the season. And so I think you just have to kind of honor what it looks like for you, but like, leverage it when you can.
Lesley Logan 29:42
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, and just like, how did you kind of get over the feeling? Like, did you ever feel selfish as you were doing these things? Did you ever feel guilty? Because, like, I'm not a mom, so I don't have mom guilt. But like, every one of my mom friends, it's like, the guilt is real, and I'm always like going, I think that there's like, I think you're not alone. But also, can we, like, ask someone like, what are we doing here? How did you get there, aside from, like, just like, you felt better when you did it?
Molly Asplin 30:12
I started noticing, like, how much more patient I was with my kids. Like, I learned this very early on. I have three kids now, six, four and two, and I was like, you know, when I work out or when I get up an hour before them, ideally, in the morning, which is what I do most mornings. I am like, I'm ready when they wake up and when I don't, and they're like, my alarm. I'm crabby and snappy and impatient at them. And so, you know, there's this thing, like, you can't pour from an empty cup. Like, I feel like that's all over with motherhood. But it is, it is true. And like, the moment I work with moms on this, they start, like, carving out this time for themselves. They're like, wow. I'm like, such a better mom. I'm like, yeah, I told you, yeah. But it's, it is really real. And listen, there's seasons, like postpartum and where you just, you can't, like you're it's, you know, physically and sleep sometimes it's just, you got to honor those seasons. But once my kids are sleeping through the night, mostly, yeah, like, I don't have any issue being selfish with my time.
Lesley Logan 31:18
Yeah, yeah. Well, I also thank you for sharing that, and also their ages. I appreciate that, because I think so many people will just make excuses. Oh, well, you know, they're probably older or, Oh, the six. That's a tight schedule there.
Molly Asplin 31:32
It's rough. It's not always pretty, but even even 30 minutes, right? It's like, start small. It just makes such a difference. When I can hear myself think, ideally, move my body before they are up.
Lesley Logan 31:44
Yeah, I appreciate you sharing that so much. I just, I have this I want to take away as many excuses from people putting up one more obstacle of why they have to wait or they can't have time in their day for themselves. And it's true, depending on the season you're in, maybe it's 15 minutes maybe, like, my girlfriend had twins, like, like, okay, you know, I was just like, we visited her, and I was like, I was like, don't even look at me. Just like, whatever you need to do. Like, do you want me to like, do I just look at the kid? Do I like, pat a cake? Like, what do we need? How can I actually help you so that you can have some time for yourself? But like, you have to know that that's a very different time than when they're two and when they're four, and then giving yourself greater, like easier expectations of yourself is also just so important. But at some point you have to go, Okay, if they're not infants, right? If they can tell you when they're hungry, what are you doing to make sure that you're you're the you you want to be with them or with your friends or your co workers or your family or anything like that?
Molly Asplin 32:45
Yeah. And it's almost like the be her now Lesley, like, I just knew, like, if I could work on these things before kids, and then if I can work on those things while my kids are little. And, yeah, it's crazy. Like, well, that your habits transfer with you, you know? And then you can refine and tweak them and adjust them. But I just think the faster you can step into the things you really want to be doing, the better you can get on at it, versus just continuing to kick the can down the road.
Lesley Logan 33:13
Yeah, I agree. What are you most excited about right now?
Molly Asplin 33:17
Oh my gosh, I'm excited about so I went through a career transition about six months ago, and when I did it, I was like, you know what? I'm going to make this season more enjoyable than my last? Like, I think with every transition and pivot, we are smarter and wiser, and so I've just, I've been having a lot of fun in this season, like, with girlfriends, and I'm, like, traveling more, and that fills my cup. And, yeah, my youngest is two now, so I'm just excited about having more fun, yeah? Because I feel like there was a few years there where I just wasn't bringing the joy, you know.
Lesley Logan 33:54
I mean, I think, like, especially when you had then, there had been, like, two and zero, you know, four, two and zero.
Molly Asplin 34:00
That was not fun. Not fun.
Lesley Logan 34:03
Yeah. So I kind of, I really do love that. And I love that, like, I love the reflection of, like, Okay, that was this. And what I want to bring into this season, want to be more fun. I think we all can even do that with any part of our life, right? Like, when we're recording this, it's beginning of summer, you know, summer solstice seven hasn't even happened yet, but, like, it's like, okay, so what I want the next thing to be? Like, how do I want this to be and then be her now? Like, what would that have to do? You know, we're, we're doing our summer tour. This will already have happened. And I literally said to the team. I said, okay, it can be a bigger tour, but here's what I need, right for that to happen, so that I I can have fun on it too. And it's not just work or, oh, where are the places? You know, you just start to learn things about yourself, and it's okay. I want for Q4 like, okay, it's gonna be a busy travel season. So what do I want to do in between? So I don't feel like I'm just traveling for work all the time, you know, reflection and then planning ahead. You know, these are important. These are things we have to do, things don't just happen to you.
Molly Asplin 35:02
Yeah, well, and Lesley, that's so smart about planning ahead, like that. That's probably why you do feel so, like, able to recharge on a daily basis because you've planned for it.
Lesley Logan 35:10
Yeah. Well, and that's, I mean, like, I learned a long time ago, and I'm sure the same, like, if it's not in the schedule it doesn't get done, right? Like, it's, it's not a to do list thing to me, like, I don't even make to do lists anymore. I have ADHD I'll never look at them again. So I already learned that about myself. But if it's not in the actual schedule, then it won't get done. And so I have to go, Okay, if you want me to write blog posts, or if you want me to write these things, there has to be a block of time in there. Oh, if I want to recharge, what does that look like and like where can it put in the calendar? And if it's not able to get in the calendar, I also have had to learn, like, and this is the recovering people pleaser, you know, like the recovering firstborn daughter who does everything right. Like, what can I actually go back and say, I can't do that today? Can I do it tomorrow? You know? Like, hey.
Molly Asplin 35:56
Like setting the boundary.
Lesley Logan 35:57
Because sometimes you commit to something and you're like, oh, wow, I could do that today, but it's not gonna be my best work, or it's gonna feel rushed, but if I had if I could do it tomorrow, you know? And so sometimes I just, my husband is the person who gave me the permission. He was like, just ask, or just say, we'll do it we have to do it next week. So sorry. Like, just apologize. And I was like, you can do that. You can, you can just, like, change it, but I can do that. And a lot sometimes you can't, like, sometimes there's deadlines and things are due, but a lot of times I've looked at things going, Oh, we could actually move that to tomorrow. We really, really can't, if we're really honest with ourself, that means we get to do something so well, I'm excited for you. That's something to be really excited about. We're gonna take a brief break and then find out how people can find you and learn more from you and your amazing podcast.
Molly Asplin 36:43
Awesome.
Lesley Logan 36:43
All right, Molly, where do you hang out? Where? What's your podcast? Where's your website? Where can people learn more from you and work with you?
Molly Asplin 36:52
Yeah, so you can go to mollyasplin.com that is my website, and shares a little bit more about me there. I'm on Instagram most days. Molly.Asplin. And then I was gonna grab this. I this is a really good for, like, morning routine, your ins and you're outs for, like, the month I fill, I fill it out on a monthly basis, called The Momentum Builder of like, a free printable. And so if you like this kind of thing, I do.
Lesley Logan 37:16
Oh, everyone loves this kind of thing.
Molly Asplin 37:18
Yeah, it's mollyasplin.com/momentum so and you can just download it there and and print it out, but that does kind of help me. Like, what am I focused on this month? Like, what are the main like, needle movers and the goals? So I think that's helpful.
Lesley Logan 37:33
I promise you that our listeners love that. Because, first of all, they're always asking, like, what's your favorite? Sorry, that's, that's Bayon and letting us know he's he's here a little in the background. They always like, what's your favorite planner? And I'm like, well, I can't really read my own writing, and I'm left handed, so the binding is just not helpful. But that a printable like that I can work with.
Molly Asplin 37:53
Well and then you can do a new one each month, because it's like, okay, wait, fresh start, you know? And you can start in the middle of the month too. You can start whenever.
Lesley Logan 37:56
Can start whatever. That's for the perfectionist. You can start whenever. You can start on a full moon, you can start on a new moon, you can start on a quarter moon. I love that so much. And your podcast is Dream It, Do It, correct?
Molly Asplin 38:10
Yeah, podcast, Dream It, Do It. And Lesley was just on there, so go listen to her interview. But yeah, that's we share a lot of high achieving tips, business tips, things like that, productivity.
Lesley Logan 38:20
Oh, I love it so much. I know you all are listening to make sure you go check that out. Okay, you've actually given us a ton of great stuff. But I love to end the show on bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us?
Molly Asplin 38:33
I think, think about the thing that you have said you wanted to do in the future, and, like, try to make a leap for it today. And that doesn't mean like writing it down or talking to your friend about it. It means like actually doing it, like sending the email, hiring the coach, making the phone call, going for a run, like whatever it like, take the actual action, and don't let that get covered up and just like the plans and the thinking about it.
Lesley Logan 39:03
I like that. I actually, I have a little recent story that help people see that in another way. I had, a year ago, I was like, I'm tired of making up my own gym workouts. Like I have to do, I have to think about people's Pilates workouts, all these things, like, I'm tired of it. And so I started like, thinking, like, thinking, like, do I want to hire a trainer? What do I do? And I found this person online that I really liked, and I was like, okay, I could just hire them, or I'm going to do their workouts that they've posted online. And so I did that for a long time. I was like, oh, I'm getting great results with this. Okay, so now I'm going to work on hiring them. So I, like, build up the application. So like, you know, there's most of these things you want to do, you have to fill out an application or you have to do some sort of thing. And so I did that step, and then she came back to me like, it was like, two weeks later. So it was not like everything happened tomorrow, but it allowed me to have some time and runway with with doing the thing, being her, with the potential trainer, with her work, and then taking the next step. And then she called me back, and then she said okay, we'll start on these two weeks that I was able to plan. Because it wasn't tomorrow. It was like, Oh, it was going to be in two weeks. So in two weeks from now, I can set aside time on my calendar for this I could set aside the money for this investment. I could do all this stuff. And so I think, what a great idea, whatever the thing is you want to do, take an action today. I think that's really, I would think that's a very bold and executable thing you guys could do.
Molly Asplin 40:14
I love it. I love your example. Lesley, that's spot on.
Lesley Logan 39:04
Thanks. Yeah, it was. I was like, really, like, okay, really proud of myself. Because sometimes I'm a person who's like, I'm just gonna do it. I like that. But then it's like, sometimes I wonder, like, did I end up the right person? Did I get the right thing? And so I kind of tried it out a different way, like, well, what if I be it till I see it as a person who, like, you know, interviews the person a little bit longer and tries it out and see if yeah, that's how I did it. So you're amazing, Molly. You guys, how are you going to use these tips in your life? Please tag Molly Asplin. Tag the Be It Pod. Share this with a friend who needs to hear it, that friend who's defending the thing they complain about all the time. This is for them. They won't even know that's why you send it to them, until they hear this part, then they're gonna know now it's out, but they'll love you for it, and also go check out the Dream It, Do It Podcast. Until next time, Be It Till You See It.
Lesley Logan 41:11
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Brad Crowell 41:54
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