Be It Till You See It

In this inspiring recap, Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell unpack the valuable lessons from stress management coach Sarah Alysse Bobo. Learn how to break free from stress cycles, reframe negative thoughts, and create space for calm and clarity. Brad and Lesley share actionable tips on living as your dream self, building confidence, and finding joy in intentional habits.

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In this episode you will learn about:

• Why stress often begins in the body before affecting the mind.
• The importance of identifying and reflecting on stress triggers.
• How shifting your narrative can help squash negative thought patterns.
• The power of setting up a sanctuary space for reflection and focus.
• Living as your dream self to embody confidence and purpose.

Episode References/Links:

• Cambodia February 2025 Retreat - https://crowsnestretreats.com
• Flashcards Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlist
• Pilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/accelerator
• OPC Winter Tour - https://opc.me/tour
• Balanced Body Equipment - https://beitpod.com/equipment
• Ep. 400 with Gay Hendricks - https://beitpod.com/ep400
• Ep. 448 with Ericka Nicole Malone - https://beitpod.com/ep448
• Tiny Habits by BJ Fogg - https://a.co/d/h1vEwtR
• Mom & Me Astrology Podcast - https://beitpod.com/astrolgypodcast

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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

She advised us to be your dream self and live in the dream self every single day. That's being it until you see it. So now you know why we had Sarah Alysse Bobo on. 

Lesley Logan 0:10  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:52  

Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the confident convo I had with Sarah Alysse Bobo in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that one. You have missed out and you should listen to it. But you can listen to this one first, and then listen to that one. You can do whatever order you want. And then if you listen to that one first, you want to come back and join us here, because we've got lots of fun stuff to talk about. First, today is November 28th.

Brad Crowell 1:14  

Oh yeah.

Lesley Logan 1:14  

That means it's Thanksgiving Day 

Brad Crowell 1:17  

And 

Lesley Logan 1:18  

The Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. Do they still do it? 

Brad Crowell 1:21  

Oh, they still do it. It's also the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade.

Lesley Logan 1:24  

So America's Thanksgiving holiday, born in the 1500s, mythologized in 1621, and observed even during the bleakest hours of the Civil War, now stands as one of the nation's most anticipated and beloved dates. Is it, though? Is it? I celebrate each year. 

Brad Crowell 1:41  

It's definitely part of American society, like football and.

Lesley Logan 1:45  

Yeah, but like, guess what are people anticipating and beloving? 

Brad Crowell 1:48  

Travel. I mean, it's the most traveled holiday in the United States (inaudible). 

Lesley Logan 1:51  

I think people are, they've bought into this Hallmark situation of family being together. But anyways, celebrated each year on the fourth Thursday in November, and this year it's on November 28th which means it's freaking so close to Christmas. It's less, that means Christmas is less than a month away. 

Brad Crowell 2:07  

Every time. Every year. 

Lesley Logan 2:09  

Sometimes it's close. Sometimes it's not the 28th. Sometimes it's like, earlier. This feels late to me. 

Brad Crowell 2:15  

Yeah, it's the fourth Thursday of the month. But yeah, it's always like. 

Lesley Logan 2:18  

I feel like it can happen sooner. 

Brad Crowell 2:20  

It can. Yes. Perhaps the other non-sectarian holiday has more tradition. Non-sectarian means non-religious. Friends, food, family, football. I've come to symbolize Thanksgiving, a rare celebratory holiday without an exchange gift giving component. Instead, today urges all of us to be grateful for the things that we have. And for those of you who have no idea what we're talking about. This is very, it's a very American holiday, so thanks for listening and bearing with us here. Also, what is this Macy's Day Parade that we're talking about? It's one of the biggest and most anticipated events during this holiday. Everyone puts it on the TV. Everyone freezes their ass off in New York City, it's become a tradition among families to watch it.

Lesley Logan 2:57  

I like to see if one of those balloons takes off. I really love. 

Brad Crowell 3:01  

You're in it for the fail? 

Lesley Logan 3:02  

Yes, but I and then I caution. I also want to say, like, no one wanted anyone to hurt. (inaudible) no one gets hurt and Snoopy just like, goes off and becomes Godzilla.

Brad Crowell 3:12  

Okay, so, okay. So this is amazing to me. I grew up watching the Macy's Day Parade, and it's the first time that I was ever introduced to a concept of drag. 

Lesley Logan 3:21  

Oh. 

Brad Crowell 3:22  

Yeah, as a child, somehow it was totally okay, because it's part of the Macy's Day Parade. Everyone dresses up in these crazy costumes with sequins, and it's, you know, they're heavy, they're heavy, and it's like this massive thing, and it's basically, it's not like drag the way that we think of a drag show on stage, but it's effectively drag well, and it's the first time I ever really understood the idea of it. Anyway, it's. 

Lesley Logan 3:50  

Interesting. 

Brad Crowell 3:51  

I don't know. 

Lesley Logan 3:51  

Sorry, babe.

Brad Crowell 3:52  

I always found it very intriguing.

Lesley Logan 3:54  

You know what Erika is really good at? Saying, don't ever do any of this unless it's a holiday and then it's okay. That's what we're so good at. Don't talk to strangers here. It's Halloween. 

Brad Crowell 4:04  

Don't take candy from strangers unless it's out of their trunk and whatever they call it. 

Lesley Logan 4:10  

Oh yeah, trick or trunking. 

Lesley Logan 4:10  

Trick or trunking. What the hell? So we were in Halloween where these kids are coming up, we're talking to some random guy who lives next to the Murder House, and I'm like, oh my God, people are trick or treating. Anyways, he didn't tell us when the kids were around. But, the point being.

Brad Crowell 4:24  

All right, so Macy's Day Parade in 1924 and it became grown and grown and grown. But everyone built these floats. So these floats are like, different companies sponsor a float, and then the float, they push it down the middle of the street, and everyone marches around. There's marching in (inaudible).

Lesley Logan 4:40  

Often, like, Olympians are there. Yeah, there's, yeah it's really, the singers.

Brad Crowell 4:44  

 The mayor's always riding a float.

Lesley Logan 4:46  

You do have to practice the wave you're gonna do, because if you do it too fast, you have to do it for too long. So it's gotta be. 

Brad Crowell 4:53  

What are we doing? We're practicing the Queen's wave. That was happening? 

Lesley Logan 4:56  

Didn't she do a one-two elbow like, there is, I don't know. There is one where you pull because you, you're gonna get tired if you don't. You gotta pick the right wave. 

Brad Crowell 5:08  

I think I'll just do my fingers.

Lesley Logan 5:11  

I would find an attachment arm and just have my own arm in a sling. And then there's a robot arm that's just waving.

Brad Crowell 5:18  

The other thing I remember about the Macy's Day Parade is I remember how cold it was in Thanksgiving when I was growing up, and I just remember thinking those people are out there wearing not enough clothes, because some of the costumes are not. 

Lesley Logan 5:32  

Yeah, they're, but they're moving so they're warm. At any rate, however you think about this holiday, because I know you live in the States, a lot of like, why are we celebrating this day? Probably, you know, gave, like, all these diseases to the Indians. We probably stole it from them, we didn't steal from them, all these things. It is a great day to be grateful. And I think we can change the definition of holidays to fit the life we want to live. We can. We really can. How do we celebrate Thanksgiving? By doing nothing.

Lesley Logan 6:03  

We participate in the Black Friday, Cyber Monday sales as a business, and then as a household, we take advantage of supporting small businesses, and we shop at the mall on Saturday. And that's what this holiday is all about. That's how I see it. But I think you can change it up how you want to feel, and you don't have to have turkey on this day. 

Brad Crowell 6:17  

No, I used to have king crab. 

Lesley Logan 6:20  

Yeah, we also had a whole Thanksgiving, and why we don't cook anymore is because everyone made a bacon-wrapped something, and we decided that maybe we should just order in. But at any rate, if you're listening to this on Thanksgiving, thank you so much for listening. 

Brad Crowell 6:34  

Yeah, we hope you'll have a good time with your family. 

Lesley Logan 6:36  

Yeah, we hope you are or if you're listening this, because you're trying to get away from them, hi, we see you. I see you. Real quick, if your family's driving you crazy, what better chance, better day than to buy yourself a trip to Cambodia with us and come on our retreat, because then you can, you can actually be going, oh my gosh, I can count on the days to Cambodia with Brad Lesley, go to crowsnesttreatsretreats.com to snag your spot for our retreat in February. 

Brad Crowell 6:58  

crowsnestretreats, plural. 

Lesley Logan 6:58  

Especially if it is cold where you are, and you're like, oh my god, this is way too cold for me. Yeah, it won't be cold in Cambodia. No, I promise you, even when it's cold to them, it's hot to us, so you will love the weather. I just got back from LA, Brad and I did the photo shoot for the accessories deck. It was super fun. It's a crazy holy moly, did we bite off more than we could chew with this situation? But a couple of epic exercises in there. 

Lesley Logan 7:26  

Multiple locations for this photo shoot. The amount of stuff Brad had to drive into LA. 

Brad Crowell 7:26  

Yeah, I just assembled it and reassembled it. 

Lesley Logan 7:34  

Yeah. And shout out to our photographer, Jerry Camarillo. He is amazing, and always somehow manages to put up with, "Can I fit in the frame? But, can I though?" All right, so go to opc.me/flash cardwait list if you are wanting this deck. And by the way, if you want this deck, you don't have to have equipment to have to make use of this deck. It's so great. 

Brad Crowell 7:54  

Yeah, join me for, actually, this is the next year you're adding yourself to the waitlist for the next time I do the Profitable Pilates Accelerator as a studio growth accelerator, so if you're feeling stuck with your money or your business in any way, come join me. Lesley and I have coached more than 2000 businesses. I mean, geez, at this point we're getting close to like 2500 businesses over the past six years, and we've got three main things that we've come to understand will completely change how you make your money, and I'm going to share those with you for free. So come join me. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That is profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator. And then. 

Lesley Logan 8:34  

A week from today, we're on tour. Let's do it. Let's see you in real life. Yeah. Well, the sixth is the first event of December. Come see us while we're on the road. We can't wait to be driving near you. This time we're doing a path that we haven't done in the past. We're going along Route 40. We're going through Oklahoma City, first time we've ever done that. That's gonna be amazing. We're going all the way up to Maine. Holy cow, we're gonna go to Cape Cod. I mean, there's just a lot that we've never done before. It's really fun for us to get to explore. But also the best part about it is meeting you in real life. So come out. Come join us. Wherever it is (inaudible). 

Lesley Logan 9:07  

We'll have the boys with us. They want us, they'll be so excited to see you. We'll have equipment with us. Shout out to our sponsor, Balanced Body. We'll have gift certificates from them to raffle off. You want those so opc.me/tour to snag your spot. Literally, cities have every event has sold out, so you want to move fast. 

Brad Crowell 9:25  

Yeah. Don't sit on this. 

Lesley Logan 9:25  

Yeah. Okay. Instead of an audience question, we actually just wanted to take a moment to say thank you. Some of you have been so wonderful at sending in your gratitude for how we've handled certain topics on this episode, how we've brought in different things, how some of the podcasts have helped you understand people in your life. And we just want to say that when you send those gratitudes in, it really does. 

Brad Crowell 9:46  

Means a lot. 

Lesley Logan 9:47  

Yeah. And so we just want to say thank you. And I know we say thank you after every episode, so I just, I do understand that. 

Brad Crowell 9:53  

Yeah, but this is a little more reflective. I mean, the reality is, you know. 

Lesley Logan 9:56  

This is episode 452. 

Brad Crowell 9:58  

Yeah, some people have been listening for three plus years. 

Lesley Logan 10:01  

Some people only started this year, but they literally started from episode one and caught up. 

Brad Crowell 10:04  

We also got an outpouring of love from y'all when Gaia passed away, and that meant a lot to us. We just are grateful that you are participating as well in this experience, because otherwise it's, Lesley and I love to talk to each other, but. 

Lesley Logan 10:05  

We don't have to sit and record it. 

Brad Crowell 10:08  

We're doing this for a different reason. We're grateful to know that it has had an impact, and we hope that it continues to grow and continue to have an impact, inspiring people to be it until they see it. So thank you. 

Lesley Logan 10:33  

And if it's your first episode and you got this far, thank you. 

Brad Crowell 10:36  

Yeah, that's awesome. All right, stick around real quick, because we're gonna jump into this awesome interview that Lesley have with Sarah Alysse Bobo. That's two times in a row, two episodes in a row. Now we've had a three name person, Sarah Alysse Bobo. She did say she also just goes by Sarah Allyse, but she's a stress management coach, and we can't wait to dig into it. So stick around. 

Brad Crowell 11:01  

All right. Now, let's talk about Sarah Alysse Bobo. Sarah is a stress management coach and founder of Live Well Enhance You, a company focused on helping individuals and corporations manage stress. Originally a Pilates instructor, she expands her expertise through health and wellness coaching with the Integrative Institute of Nutrition. Sarah teaches practical tools like breath work, self reflection and mindset shifts to empower clients in reducing stress and improving overall well being. That's kind of a mouthful, but basically, she helps people de-stress. 

Lesley Logan 11:35  

Yeah, yeah, that's what she does. So we talked about, we have to make sure it's become a habitual habit of a stress cycle, I think because our brains like to do certain things. And if you want to go back to Episode 400 when Gay Hendricks talks about the ways that we Upper Limit ourselves, one of those things is worry. Worry is just stressing about something that's outside of your control. I mean, there are worries that are inside your control, but like when you're Upper Limiting, it's worry. And so what happens is we create cycles. Oh, this happened, and now I immediately go into this domino effect of this thing. 

Brad Crowell 12:06  

It's habitual (inaudible). 

Lesley Logan 12:07  

And you can create your own. You can keep the stress going by like, oh, you know, whenever you check your social media, it makes you stressed out, or whenever you check your email on your day off, it makes you stressed out. But you do it because you created this habit. And we have to make sure we don't create that. And she did say that that does gradually build over time, so it's possible that now you're aware of it, so don't shame yourself. Take Ericka Nicole Malone's advice from last week, be kind to yourself. But we have to try to stop it before it becomes something that builds up into a cycle. And she also mentioned that it get builds up in your body and then travels to your brain, so that I found very interesting.

Brad Crowell 12:46  

So like, physically, I thought it was the other way around. I thought that you had stress and then it, like, stored your body. 

Lesley Logan 12:53  

Yeah, no, no, this is her quote. So.

Brad Crowell 12:55  

Okay. 

Lesley Logan 12:58  

I'm not the scientist, and I didn't study stress, so I can't say that, but also it does make sense. It can start in the body and then go to the brain, and then it can become this cycle that goes from the brain into the body. Yes, you do store things, but I think as you store it in your body, it's probably because your brain told you. Anyways. you know, Sarah Lee has all the details on this. You can also listen to the episode. She also said it's important to reflect and identify the possible stress triggers. This is hard to do when you're stressed out, but if you can get a, if you can almost have an awareness like, oh my God, I'm in a stress cycle right now, and you can just take a second to pause the stressing that you're doing and go, "What happened right before this? What was that? What was that prompt?" And here's the thing, when you breaking, breaking in air quotes, unraveling habits that have to do with a little bit more psychology, brain emotion is actually an advanced thing to do so. BJ, Fogg, who's the author of Tiny Habits, when I study with him, if you're like, I want to stop saying mean things to myself, right? That's a great goal to have. We all want you to do that, but to have the ability to catch yourself in the moment of saying something negative is extremely advanced. So you may need to have a partner in your life who's like, pause, we're going to just take a moment. You seem to be really stressed out right now about this thing? Is it really about this thing? What prompted this? What started this? So that you can be able to throw out what that prompt is because maybe it's every time you talk to your mother in law. I'm not. This is not I never my, I never talk to my mother in law. So this is obvious, not a story for me, but I'm talking about for my friends. Then maybe you need to take BJ Fogg's advice, which is like he had this client who had to talk to her ex husband or so next ex husband, and she just said every time I have to have a call with him, I'm gonna get my nails done or I'm gonna go buy that fancy coffee. I'm gonna do so that she wouldn't avoid the thing that was stressing her out, and then she wouldn't be stressed out from the thing because she did something that filled her up. So all this to say, I'm bringing in a couple different experts to help you reflect and identify the possible stress triggers so that you don't let it build up in your brain and your body, so that it doesn't become a habitual cycle there. Brought it all back together.

Lesley Logan 14:59  

That's a win. 

Lesley Logan 15:01  

Your turn. 

Brad Crowell 15:01  

That's a win, all right. So I really liked when she was talking about the spiral that you were just talking about the negative thought patterns, she said you could squash all those by changing your story. The reality is, there's so much belief associated with our success, and this was like a triple woo to me a couple years ago, and when I experienced it in my life, made me realize that it's just normal

Brad Crowell 15:02  

Wow. So they went from triple woo to just?

Brad Crowell 15:10  

Yeah. I was just like, just me how to do it. There's a belief, crap, whatever. But I've told this short story before, but I remember growing up playing soccer where they were, like, you're looking down, you're watching your foot connect with the ball. You're trying to keep your knee over your foot as you hit the ball, and you are envisioning the ball going in net. Yes, they say similar things with softball, yeah, but the envision of the ball going in the net part, that's like, somehow, when I got older, I thought that was like, triple whoop. 

Lesley Logan 16:00  

Well, where, your mind goes, energy flows. So that's where that. 

Brad Crowell 16:04  

That's what they say. So ultimately, there's a belief associated with these are the actions I've taken. this is how I've set myself up for success. And then I'm going to believe that that ball is going into that net, right? And I love that, because I forgot that along the way. And so Sarah Alysse is reminding us, you can squash negative thought patterns by changing your story. And because the things that we tell ourselves are so repetitive that we don't even know that we're saying them as we say them. 

Lesley Logan 16:32  

We supposedly have, like, I don't know 80,000 different, 80,000 thoughts in a day, or 60,000 thoughts in a day, and like 75% of them are negative and the same. 

Brad Crowell 16:41  

Well, that's insane. Between six and 60,000 thoughts a day. 

Lesley Logan 16:44  

Between six thoughts and 60,000

Brad Crowell 16:47  

6,000 and 60,000 (inaudible). So the thing is, we tell ourselves these things of like, I'm not pretty I can't do this. I'm not good enough for this. A story I used to tell myself when I worked in my company is I don't belong here. And the reason is because, in my mind, I was like, I went to music school. These guys all went to business school. I don't belong here. Now, I never said that to them, but that's just what I told myself. I don't know why I told myself that. She said hey, you can change this negative thought pattern when you change your story. She said what is really holding you back from moving forward and doing the thing that you think that you can't do. What is it really that's holding you back? She emphasized the importance of shifting your mindset and opening yourself up to new opportunities. So I don't know that in the moment, it's really hard to catch yourself like you were just saying. But if you're thinking back and reflecting on how the day went, and you're like, I didn't set myself up for a win there. Maybe reflecting back on that, taking some time to set aside and think about it. The next time you find yourself in that situation, maybe you can catch yourself part way. 

Lesley Logan 17:50  

Well, changing the story is so years ago, I heard this woman speak, and I'm forgetting her name, but she said, instead of saying, I can't afford something, she says, I choose not to spend money on that right now, because it puts her in the power position of she's not a victim of her situation. She is in charge of her situation, and that energy around that there's less stress, because it's not I can't afford that right now. Another thing I can't afford, you just go in the stress fire wall. She's like, I'm choosing not to spend money on that right now. No, oh, no, I'm making that investment at this moment, and so it becomes this powerful, like you're making decisions from a powerful place. I really, I wish I can remember her name, you guys. She spoke from a source that came in from the cloud. So to be honest, was a little weird, but I loved that.

Brad Crowell 18:36  

All right. Well, we're going to be talking about some other kind of clouds with a sanctuary space, to just a minute. 

Lesley Logan 18:42  

I, did you watch that real I sent you about the blind guy making a basket. Oh, you did not? Gotcha. 

Brad Crowell 18:47  

Yeah, I don't do social media (inaudible). 

Lesley Logan 18:49  

I sent it to you and my dad and my brother. It's in the text. So this blind guy is walking by, and these two guys are playing basketball. They are taught. They talk to him, and he's like, Oh, I've never shot a basketball. And they, he's blind, has a blind stick and everything like, blind, and they get put a ball in his hand, and they start talking through, and of course, they were also demonstrating, which was funny, because he's blind. But anyway, they were talking through, how to hold the ball, how to lift the ball. They're using his stick to hit the basket so he could hear it. They're taking him under, like, okay, this is where the basket is stepping him back, okay, this is where you're throwing from. And the first throw, he nothing but net. And I was in tears. It was so good. And so that man had a belief he could do it. Just saying. 

Brad Crowell 19:36  

That was incredible. 

Lesley Logan 19:37  

I'm just going back to your eye on the prize thing. Okay. 

Brad Crowell 19:39  

Okay, stick around. We're going to talk about a sanctuary space in just a sec. 

Brad Crowell 19:42  

All right, finally, let's talk about those. Be It Action Item

s, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Sarah Alysse Bobo. She said set up a sanctuary space. I've experienced these in people's homes before, and I always thought they were a little strange. Got like a little altar going on. So I've always thought they were weird, until we started to do them ourselves. Why would you set up a sanctuary space? What is a sanctuary space? It's just a place where you can sit down and change. It's like changing your environment, right? And you're putting yourself in a space that can bring you joy or relaxation or meditation or reflection. Maybe you want to remember someone who was alive and is not or something like that. Or maybe you want to reflect on how we just celebrated Thanksgiving, you know, like, maybe you want to think about how your life is amazing and it puts you in this different place. We have a money corner in our house, right? And so we set that up so that when we go in there, we remember to think about money, right? It's funny to say it that way. 

Lesley Logan 20:46  

I I play sometimes, sometimes I will play Abraham Hicks Money Rampage, because it's just around five minutes long, when I'm in the money corner and I'm like, in the cold plunge, trying to breathe through and I'm like. 

Brad Crowell 20:59  

That's a fun way to start money is coming into my place right here, right? It doesn't have to come right now, but it could feel money on its way.

Brad Crowell 21:07  

I love that. So yeah, for sure. 

Lesley Logan 21:10  

Also, for those who have small spaces, or you've got kids or like, there's no way I could have a sanctuary space. It doesn't have to be big, and it doesn't even have to include a chair. 

Brad Crowell 21:20  

No, it could be your windowsill. Yeah, we're gonna have mommy and astrology hosts on at the end of this year, but they have an episode on their podcast called Mommy and Astrology about how to create an altar. And they literally talk about what kinds of things you put on an altar. An altar is another way of saying a sanctuary space. What are you wanting to call in, things that can represent things that you want to call in. And it can be a windowsill. It can be just like when you're at your desk. It could be the wall that's right behind your computer. So don't let. I don't know what I have to say.

Brad Crowell 21:49  

It's a space where you can be present with yourself and then set you up to conquer the rest of your day. So what did you, what was your biggest takeaway? 

Lesley Logan 21:56  

So she advised us to be your dream self and live in the dream self every single day. That's being it until you see it. So now you know why we had Sarah Alysse Bobo on .But she said, if you want to be the CEO of a Pilates studio, then you have to go live that dream life. And this is exactly what I had to think about years ago, before this podcast ever existed and I was going to open my own space, and I was like faith. I've been a manager, but I've never been a studio owner, as if they were two different things. And I was like, hold on, what if I knew what I needed to do do this, and how does my day change, and what things piss me off, and what things take my time and by changing before we even open the studio, because we had, like, four months between when we decided to open the studio and opening the studio, I started to change what I responded to and how I responded to it, because of, well, if I was a studio owner, I wouldn't actually have time to deal with this little shenanigan thing over here right now. So I'm just not gonna deal with that, because this is what I'm making time for.

Lesley Logan 22:51  

I'm just not gonna deal with that, because this is what I'm making time for. So I really, really love it. And then she said, you can figure this out by asking what is going to move the needle forward. 

Brad Crowell 23:02  

One small step. 

Lesley Logan 23:02  

Yeah, I love it. She was great. It was really fun. We packed a lot in here. So I just really enjoy you, Sarah Alysse Bobo. I hope to see you. She's in Florida. We should reach out. 

Brad Crowell 23:12  

Oh, cool. 

Lesley Logan 23:13  

Hopefully we'll see you on the tour. And you guys, I'm Lesley Logan. 

Brad Crowell 23:17  

And I'm Brad Crowell. 

Lesley Logan 23:18  

One more time, thank you again for listening to our amazing podcast. We are in the top 1.5% because of you. And more on that, in the December episodes we've already recorded, and you know would mean a world to us, to for you to take your favorite, Be It Pod episode, and share it with a friend, that'd be so, so great. Let us know. Send in your questions, send in your aha moments, send us Your FYF so we can celebrate you. So we can answer your questions. So we can support you each support you each and every day on your journey to be it till you see it. Have an amazing day. 

Lesley Logan 23:46  

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Lesley and Sarah Alysse Bobo explore the nuances of stress and practical approaches to managing it. From understanding the impact of chronic stress to building a self-care sanctuary, Sarah shares invaluable tools to reclaim peace in daily life. She opens up about her own journey overcoming chronic stress and emotional eating and shares strategies for building resilience, finding balance, and enriching life with intentional self-care.

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In this episode you will learn about:

• Sarah’s journey from Pilates to stress management coaching.
• How to recognize the signs of chronic stress and its effects on your health.
• Tools for creating a personal self-care space to manage your stress.
• Techniques to increase self-awareness and address limiting beliefs.
• Approaches to building confidence and navigating social pressures.
• Practical exercises for incorporating stress-reducing practices into daily life.

Episode References/Links:

• Live Well, Enhance You - https://www.livewellenhanceyou.com/
• Stress Free SOULutions - https://beitpod.com/stressfreesolutionpodcast
• Sarah Alysse Bobo's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/sarahalyssecoaching
• Sarah Alysse Bobo's YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@sarahalysse
• Institute for Integrative Nutrition - https://www.integrativenutrition.com

Guest Bio:

Sarah Alysse Bobo is a dynamic stress management consultant who began her career as a Pilates instructor. Through personal struggles with stress and emotional challenges after her father's passing, she discovered the profound impact of stress on mind and body. This led her to found Live Well, Enhance You, dedicated to empowering individuals to manage stress effectively. Sarah developed the S.O.U.L. System, a holistic approach engaging mind, body, and spirit, incorporating mindfulness, breath work, and personal sanctuary spaces. She also integrates improvisation and confidence coaching, teaching teenagers and adults to build self-assurance. As host of the "Stress Free SOULutions" podcast, she shares practical tips for leading a balanced life. Now a new mom based in Florida, Sarah continues to inspire others through her course "Enrich Your Soul" and her commitment to wellness and confidence.

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Episode Transcript:

Sarah Alysse Bobo 0:00  

A lot of us tell ourselves these stories and really believe it. And I said I want to change this because I don't want this to be a continual generational trauma, if you will, for family, for generations, and it's something that I noticed my mom would do to herself, and I needed to make it stop. 

Lesley Logan 0:20  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:59  

All right, babes, you know what I just sang in my head? That is going to only, it's a nerdy joke, but I was just, I can't sing. But it was just like, let's talk about stress, baby. That's what this episode is about. I won't keep singing the song because I'm obviously not (inaudible) I can't sing. And if you don't know that that was making fun of another song, then you need to get out into the 80s and 90s rap a little bit more. I'm just saying. Sarah Alysse Bobo is our guest today. She is so funny. We were introduced by Jessica Papineau, which you all know her from the pod, and I did not know that she was a Pilates instructor when I was introduced to her. What I knew is that she's multifaceted person. She does improv and confidence coaching and all this amazing stuff. But more importantly, she goes into court places, and she helps people with stress management. And don't we all need someone to help us manage our stress a little bit. So we get to go on a journey with her and hear how she got into that, and also the tools she uses to kind of have some awareness. And the good news is a lot of them are free, so you can try them out yourself, and then make sure you reach out to Sarah Alysse and let her know how they worked in your life, and also share this with a friend who needs it. Here is Sarah Alysse. 

Lesley Logan 2:08  

All right, Be It babe, this is gonna be a really fun convo, because today's guest and I have already had multiple conversations before, and she is super cool, one of those friendships where, like, I totally missed a call, time zone problems, different things. I happen to be on this amazing person's podcast, but she was introduced by a mutual friend, whom we all have loved, who's been on the podcast before. So Sarah Alysse Bobo, can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at? 

Sarah Alysse Bobo 2:29  

Yes, my name is Sarah Alysse Bobo, and I am a stress management consultant, but I also love, love, love Pilates. That was my first job post college, and I just love that Lesley and I can connect on that, and I still am very much so in the fitness world. So I'm very excited for this conversation.

Lesley Logan 2:50  

I know I love that you're not just a fitness trainer., you actually teach Pilates. you know what it is, you know all the things about it. But I guess why I want to start is, how do you go from a Pilates instructor to a stress management I mean, like, what, that feels like a big, it's just not a big leap. It makes sense we get people in class all the time or distress cases. But what was the impetus? How did we do it?

Sarah Alysse Bobo 3:12  

Yeah, so, well, one thing was, is, I was a stress ball. I was typical Type A personality Pilates trainer. I mean, counting to a 100 all the time, you've got to have a little bit of Type A to you. And so counting aside, I found that I needed something different, and my clients needed something extra. So I started to study health and wellness coaching with the Integrative Institute of nutrition and I fell in love with all of the things in terms of talking about nutrition and then primary care, which is essentially like the typical going within, discovering what's going on inside of you. But for me, I was very much like my dad, and my dad got sick in 2016 so two things happened. I turned back to my love of Pilates and fell deeper in love with it, and then I also was on this self healing journey because I had emotional eating issues similar to my father, and that came back to stress. So stress eventually was taking over my life. I wasn't able to eat, and then I was going the opposite direction from emotional eating to starvation. So I needed something different, and so I was vulnerable with my clients that hey, I'm currently stressed, and I need to pull back from my clients, and then I started my own company, Live Well, Enhance You, and found that working in corporate, and with the masses actually, my next step in recovery from emotional eating and also starvation. So it's been a whirlwind of an experience, but I'm really grateful that I did that, because I feel my relationship with fitness has changed too. 

Lesley Logan 5:08  

Yeah, I think it does usually when you start to, like, heal yourself, whatever kind of drew you into fitness, that does change how we teach. I feel like people are stressed out more than ever, and I feel like all we're told all the time is we have to manage our stress, which is stressful, and some of us get to work for ourselves, which you'd think would mean that you get to be less stressed out. It doesn't mean that at all. It means you then stress out more. Because you're like, oh my god, it all falls on my shoulders. You have gone into corporate world trying to work on stress. Can we just talk about maybe what stress is and what it even looks like? Because I also wonder if some people are so they've been stressed out for so long they don't realize they're stressed anymore.

Sarah Alysse Bobo 5:51  

Yeah, yeah. I think that stress is something that builds up. I don't think it just happens. I feel it's something that builds up in your body and then travels to your brain, and then it becomes out of whack. And what we should be doing is analyzing that if something is let's say, oh, that food didn't agree with me, instead of just saying, oh, I think it was the food. Well, what happened that day kind of mentally, take a note, oh, I had that horrible meeting with the boss that's always on my case about whatever, and how can I get through that? Should I be talking to HR, if it's a really bad situation, or should I be talking to my boss and explaining, hey, I felt that something was off that day. Can we talk about it? You know, it's just analyzing what's actually happening in your body. And a lot of times we just, they'll brush it aside, and then stress builds, and it doesn't become acute anymore. It becomes something that continually happens. So, we have to make sure it doesn't become a habitual habit of this stress cycle.

Lesley Logan 7:03  

Yeah, yeah. I think that's true. And also especially interesting, because there's good stress, there's stress that's really good, like, you stress your bones by dealing with your muscles, and that builds your bone strength. We also want to react when something really bad happens. We do want a shot of some cortisol and some dopamine to make a decision. But then there's that, like you said, that chronic stress, where it's like, you've turned it all up on the stress and down. It's just always on, it's always running. It's, it's like idling there, and we start to make decisions from that, and that can become a problem. 

Sarah Alysse Bobo 7:35  

Right. 100%. 

Lesley Logan 7:36  

What are some signs that, you know, obviously there's the we didn't agree with that meal, but what are some signs that maybe, you, we might be under chronic stress, or someone we know is?

Sarah Alysse Bobo 7:45  

Irritability? That's a huge one. You just see it on their face. You can also see it in their skin too, and that was something very apparent to me when my dad passed away. My skin was just horrible, and I never really had major breakouts with Pilates and all of the regimented routines, I guess, that I had. I always felt I was pretty healthy. And then as soon as that life changing trauma happens, my whole body went out of whack. But, yeah, you can see it. You can feel it, and then you start to be the stress. I think that's the huge thing. You're everywhere irritable with your friends, with your coworkers, and you just have to kind of take a step back and ask yourself, am I okay, or my friend just told me that something isn't right, that I was really rude to her, and instead of just automatically assuming them, also asking yourself, was that me too?

Lesley Logan 8:47  

Yeah, yeah, that self awareness? Oh, my God, so hard. 

Sarah Alysse Bobo 8:50  

Yeah, it's very hard.

Lesley Logan 8:51  

So you go from like teaching Pilates, and you're trying to understand the stress you're under and how you're dealing with it and healing from that, and then you start to speak into corporations. Can we talk about that? Because that sounds really scary. I mean, teaching like 10 people in a room, not a big deal, but speaking in front of corporations, I feel like that could be really, that could be stressful.

Sarah Alysse Bobo 9:11  

Yes. And, you know, I actually started that. Oh my gosh. I started that when I was working for a company where I was teaching a lot of Pilates and bar and cycling classes. It was a company, and so what they did was they would organize it so it wasn't as scary, in the sense I didn't have to go out and find the companies. But, speaking to a group of people that were told they must come to this meeting is very scary, because they're already coming into it with this anxiety or attitude. It's one of the two, like, oh, they're gonna tell me that I'm not eating right, or they're going to tell me that my posture sucks. Like, I had to go in and I just had to basically make them feel at ease. And that usually was with some icebreakers. I'm very big into improvisation, so this whole 'yes, and' so I would have to 'yes, and' myself into these corporations to make myself feel okay and ready.

Lesley Logan 10:15  

That's interesting. I haven't thought about like a 'yes, and' in that way, that's really cool. Obviously, yes, people are forced to come to this meeting and they're gonna be told something that they already know. What is your hope for them or what do you hope that they come out with, and what changes are they hoping to make?

Sarah Alysse Bobo 10:29  

I hope there's just like one tiny little step that they take action on, whether that is that day or a month from that day, and just know that they can heal from whatever it just takes a moment for them to check in with themselves. And you know, they can scan the list of things that I have given them to do or given exercises, because I love teaching people breath, breath work is so key, just like in Pilates or in personal training, because when we breathe, we just relax our shoulders a little bit more, right? So that's usually what I have to do, is get them to just relax their bodies first. 

Lesley Logan 11:16  

Breath work is one of our favorite things around here. It's like even just one intentional inhale and exhale is so, so good. I think it's just really, I find stress management an interesting thing to like do, I think, because by the time you're so stressed out that you're like, I need to manage this. It could be overwhelming. What were some of the things that you use to kind of help yourself? Because also, you had to heal yourself to a place where you're like, okay, now I can talk about this, and I can help people, because I've been there. I also think, you know, when we've been through it ourselves, we can become the best teachers, because we can totally empathize with people and where they're at. So what were some of the tools that you use to support yourself? 

Sarah Alysse Bobo 11:54  

Yeah, so I kind of, I didn't even realize I was doing this, I was creating a system for myself, and then, in turn, I started to use this with my clients. But essentially, I, as cheesy as it sounded, created a S.O.U.L. System. I wanted to enrich my life in the biggest way possible, and that was to engage my mind, optimize my body and then my spirit, ignite it. Those were the three things I really needed to do, because I was just feeling, in every single area of life, just completely depressed, you know, that being from like cooking at home to socializing, because I felt I was drinking all the time when my dad passed. So I needed to do some major mindset shifts. And one thing that I did, and I this is, like the first thing I teach to companies, is create a sanctuary space. So I would find a space in my home, and at the time, this was in my, like Chicago, Carrie Bradshaw little place, and I had my little woo-woo corner where it was like my yoga mat, my foam roller, my keyboard, you know, all the things that brought me joy. And then I would just take like a candle, and I would light it, and I would be there for however long as my mind would let me. And I would just either play the piano and just release tension that way or it was just like breathing, setting intention for that time, being present with myself. And by doing that and deciding not to scroll during that time, or just setting my phone away, I was able to release a lot of tension in my body. And, then I found myself going back to my old patterns of, you know, teaching 10 hours and burning myself out. So I would start to create mental oases where I could go, and I could take that same energy I found in my sanctuary space, but maybe, like, five minutes before class, I would just sit in a corner. As ridiculous as it would sound, going to a company and just sit in a corner. They probably looked at me like I was absolutely insane, but I'd sit there and I would just go to my favorite place, which was this amazing beach in Florida. Just would visualize it be reading and just relaxing and chilling, and then I was ready to conquer the rest of my day. So just taking that time was so essential that was, like, my very first step was the mindset piece. 

Lesley Logan 14:33  

Yeah, which is the hard part, because if you're a Type A person, you're like, let me just like, how do we action-step this to to, you know, don't worry about the mind. I'll just, how do I like? Just do stuff. Let me check a box. Let me do things. I love the idea of a sanctuary corner. And I love that you share that even in your small apartment, you found a way to have a little corner that could be the sanctuary space, to kind of let the stress you know, it could be a space where it's just for you to explore the mind and explore what you need and explore what your body wants. So you live in Florida now. You've had a big move. You also had a kid. How are you prioritizing yourself with your business and your podcast and the kiddo and all of those things? 

Sarah Alysse Bobo 15:15  

Yeah, so it's interesting that you say that, because this week, fitness was not a priority because we drove from Georgia. We went on an amazing adventure, stayed at a cabin. It was amazing, came back here, decided to drive back though, like those 10, 11 hours, not with a kid. She was great and then on Monday, hell, I could not get anything done. It was so bad, and I learned my lesson. I was like, you know, I can't do those things, or my husband and I can't do that anymore, because she has to take that front seat. We have to prioritize her health for that. We're like, yeah, we could do it, but she did it, and clearly it was not good for her two days later, it was.

Lesley Logan 16:01  

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She she needed the routine. Yeah, I think recognizing, like, okay, this is what's going to take the back seat so that I can still prioritize things. But do you have other tools that you use to prioritize you that are not fitness-related, that help you kind of, maybe, not even, not go crazy, but just to keep it from being stressful. It's just, there's gonna be stress in a day. So we're not talking about no stress ever, but to kind of take care of you.

Sarah Alysse Bobo 16:24  

Well, so, I mean, I do always have my handy dandy notebook that I just write down my to-do list, and I just plan to get now the list done through the week instead of that day. I'm like, okay, this is when I want to do these things. I usually have everything Monday through Wednesday, and then they get done on Friday. And now I've been telling my brain again, the mindset thing is, it's okay, it's going to get done because you've made simple things for your brain to do throughout the week. I made sure on Monday I went on a walk, that was important to me, and even though she was crying in half of it, she went with me on the walk, and there we go. So those little wins turn into big wins, ultimately. But all jokes aside, I have also made sure that being present is the most important thing for myself, because when I start to think or I look at what someone else is doing in my field and seeing how much they're achieving it faster than me, like you just had a kid. You're loving being a mom. You're really enjoying this time. And you know what, you've worked your butt off. Might as well enjoy this time, because you might not get this time again in the future, when she is in school, so. 

Lesley Logan 17:42  

Yeah, yeah. I know. I just interviewed someone, and they're like, yeah, well, my five year old's in school all day now, so I have more time. And so she's like, so now I can do more things because I've got more time. And it's recognizing that there's just different seasons for that. And I think it is the mindset around it. There's different seasons. I love that you pointed out, like, I put things down, and my goal is to finish it during the week and not necessarily the day, because I think we can create extra stress that doesn't need to exist by going, I have to get this done today, and it's like, but it could be done tomorrow. You know, where there's more time. 

Sarah Alysse Bobo 18:13  

I feel like this was something I could have learned, too, before having heard though, right? It didn't have to be everything on this certain day. I could have done something a week earlier. I could have done it a month earlier, you know, and that's been actually a really good lesson for me, too. So even when the seasons do start to open up for me, that doesn't mean I should go back to how I used to just burn myself out, rinse and repeat. 

Lesley Logan 18:14  

Right, because it'd be so easy for us to fall back into our old habits when there's like big life changes, you know, to forget our tools. What are your favorite tools for people to use when it comes to their stress management and their just even awareness of what's going on around them?

Sarah Alysse Bobo 18:57  

Yeah, so I would say one of my favorite ones is spiritual self-care, and it's that idea that I was just talking about, very simple, being present. And then another thing in kind of the spirit realm, is opening yourself up to opportunities. I feel a lot of times we close our self off from everything, because we tell ourselves in our brain that I can't do this, maybe because it's the time, maybe because it's you don't have the energy. But let's say you really wanted to learn a language, like, what's really holding you back from doing it? It doesn't mean, yes, time comes into play, but if you really want to learn something, you can make 10 minutes a day. And now they have all those fancy apps that, just as an example, that you can go and teach yourself a language so you can squash all of your negative thought patterns by just changing your story. 

Lesley Logan 19:54  

Yeah, we all have lots of stories that we tell ourselves. I don't have time. It's gonna cost too much money. I. I can't do that yet. I'll do it when I'm ready. When I'm ready is such a lie. How did you become aware of your story, so aware of your of the self chatter? Because I think that that's like the key, right? So many people are so disconnected, mind and body, that they don't even recognize that they're stressed anymore, and then they don't even, also, they don't even hear the loop that has been running for years on the story of like, I don't have time to learn this new thing, or I'm not smart enough to learn. How do you become more aware of the stories you were saying? 

Sarah Alysse Bobo 20:28  

I heard what my friends were saying about themselves to me, and then I was like, oh crap, I say those same things about myself. And it was more of that mirroring. And I realized, wow, well, a lot of us tell ourselves these stories and really believe it. And I said, I want to change this, because I don't want this to be a continual generational trauma, if you will, for family, for generations. And it's something that I noticed my mom would do to herself and I needed to make it stop. It wasn't fair to myself, and it also wasn't fair to my clients, wasn't fair to my friends and all the people around me.

Lesley Logan 21:12  

Yeah, that's so interesting. I think that's true. We hear the things our friends are saying. We're like, don't say that about yourself. And then it's like, wait a minute, I say that to myself, and I just told her not to say it, so I better not say it, you know. And we get so comfortable hearing that voice of our own, and we defend others so much, but we won't always give ourselves that permission. And it's true, like people think that they're hiding their negative stories very, very well, but they're not. And your kids hear it, and the people around you hear it. I was at a Pilates workshop last weekend, and this one girl who's so strong, I look at her, and I'm like, you're so, she's so much stronger than I am. And she's like, I don't know if I'll be good at this before she did the exercise. And I was like, okay, here she comes, prepping us for her amazingness. She's gonna lower the bar so that she can, and I just kept saying that about her when she'd come up, and she (inaudible) why are you saying that? Like, because whatever, you just have these words, terrible stories, every single exercise, you are saying I can't do this. Oh, I might not be starting out for this. Oh, this. And so I'm just saying, I'm just making a joke, that you are just making sure that we're all lowering our expectations. You can wow us. She was like, I do and I'm like, always. And by the way, you did this many years ago, when we were together at another studio, you're still doing it.

Sarah Alysse Bobo 22:29  

And it's amazing for that person. It stuck all those years still, she still does it. So crazy.

Lesley Logan 22:38  

Yeah and I think I spotted it, because I remember in elementary school, I would have friends who go, oh, I failed, I think I failed that test, and they get an A, then I was like, oh, I think I did terrible on that test, and then I get an A, and I'm like, why do I always have to think I did so badly when I did fine? Why can't I just go, yeah, I actually think I aced that. What? What? People aren't gonna like me, because I actually think I did a good job? You know, that's weird people. That's weird. 

Sarah Alysse Bobo 23:05  

Yeah, I remember doing that too now that I think about it, I wonder why kids are taught that, you know, it had to be something learned from other kids or their family.

Lesley Logan 23:17  

Yeah. I mean, I wonder if it's like, there's a whole like, don't brag. You got to be humble. And I think that in some aspects, like it is really annoying when the little kid is just constantly bragging about all that they have around you. But at the same time, there's a happy medium. Now we just have a bunch of people who self-deprecate to a point of lack of confidence because they've told themselves a story so much so I don't know, you're a mom, I'm sure you'll get that pressure to figure that out.

Lesley Logan 23:50  

What are you excited about these days? What are you looking forward to? I know you got a little one, so it's probably hard to plan ahead. But what is it that you're the most looking forward to? 

Sarah Alysse Bobo 23:59  

Lesley, I'm still very Type A so before I had her, I planned too much for my fall, so I have a lot of crazy things going on this fall. I did create a course called Enrich Your Soul, and I did a beta trial in January, and I fell in love with it, and then I created it just so it could be an Evergreen course. I was like, why not? And then I actually teach some improv, and I'm going to be doing a five-week series now in Delray, my husband actually found it. Love him for just being like, you should, you should apply to this. And I was like, then we'll figure out who's watching the babe. But I got it, and now going to be teaching teenagers improvisation in November, and then I'll also be teaching adults how to be more confident, not only in improv, but in life. So I'm really pumped about that as well. And then, the last thing, I have my music stuff that I do. So (inaudible).

Lesley Logan 25:05  

Yeah, because you're Type A multipassionate, multihyphenated. Okay, so that is cool about the improv. That is so fun. I'm sure that's that just the idea of doing improv scares half of the listeners. They would just feel like they're not able to do it. But I do, but that leads me to, like, teaching adult confidence. Can we just, like, kind of dive in, because I feel like there is a confidence issue amongst adults. It's a problem and we have a lot of people who think that they are not qualified or capable of doing things. And I just, this is not what you said, but this is just coming to my mind. Two nights ago, my husband and I are sitting at the bar at a sushi restaurant, and the guy next to me is talking about, he's like, yeah, he was talking to his date or a girlfriend or something. And she said, oh, how are the resumes going? He's like, well, got this job lead, and I don't, they want all these, they have all these requirements that I don't meet. But I applied anyways. And I was just like, this is the perfect example of dudes will have half or no qualifications, and they apply always. He's on, from my eavesdropping you guys, he's on his third fucking interview. And ladies, you, we don't, we're like, oh, I don't meet the requirements I can't apply for that. Can't apply. So how do we, I mean, in a nutshell, in a few minutes, how do we get women to have, adult women, to have more confidence in themselves?

Sarah Alysse Bobo 26:21  

It's so hard. It really is hard. That's a lot of my clients struggle with the confidence piece. They're too afraid to ask for that raise. They're too afraid to go in there and say, I'm going to take lead on this. I hate to say it keeps coming back to asking yourself the tough questions like where did this come from? Why am I saying I'm not enough? Where was this ultimately from? And some of it is childhood, yes, but a lot of the time it is that fear piece, fear of rejection, fear that if someone sees them not as perfect, then they are also going to be looked at differently by their peers, like if they know that they're going for this job and they don't get it, what are my friends going to think? And I think that's more for women, because socially, there's more of a judgment piece. And I think especially with social media, how it's construed, and showing your perfect reel all day long, it's really hard for women to gain that confidence piece, so they have to just start asking them, where did this come from? And then it's the how, how can I get myself out of it, and maybe it is going to that improv class and taking an out of the box solution for yourself, right? Or it could be just simply, I need to calm down my Type A and do some Pilates.

Lesley Logan 27:53  

Yeah, yeah. I think those awareness of those questions are really good. I highly recommend, I took an improv class in high school, and it is really fun. It is really, you can't be wrong, and that that will help you get out of your comfort zone and in a big way, and it will help with confidence. I just interviewed a boudoir photographer, and she's like, oh, but it helps so much with their confidence. I'm like, that is amazing that they could go into that without the confidence, but they leave with it like that. They have that. So I do think that there's some exploring there, ladies, that we can all do to help each other out. Because, my goodness, you know, the world would be a much different place if a lot of us were just a little more confident. You know, imagine we would be leading different amazing realms. And really, yeah, there willprobably be a lot less stress. Here's why. Here's why it comes up to my mind, I was a runner, and it's actually really hard on the body to run slower than your pace. It's actually hard to run with a slower runner. It's a little easier to run with a runner who's a little faster than you. But your pace, you have this pace that your body does, and when we all try to play small, it's actually really hard. It's harder on you, it's stressful on you, it's frustrating, it's debilitating, it's all these things. And so owning your confidence and ditching those stories that aren't yours, it's kind of like getting yourself at your pace. I think that's really cool. Okay, Sarah, we're gonna take a brief break, and then we're gonna come back and find out your Be It Action Items. 

Lesley Logan 29:16  

Sarah Alysse Bobo, where do you like to hang out? Where can people listen to more of your amazingness? How can they work with you? 

Sarah Alysse Bobo 29:23  

Oh my gosh, thank you. I, so, you can go to my website, which is www.livewellenhanceyou.com and just connect with me there, or go on to social media, Instagram, Sarah Alysse Coaching and Alysse is spelled A-L-Y-S-S-E. I know there's so many different ways. 

Lesley Logan 29:45  

You would think there wouldn't be on that one, but there, there are actually quite a few. 

Sarah Alysse Bobo 29:50  

An I, an E, an A. 

Lesley Logan 29:52  

I've seen an E-L-Y, like I've seen so many. So, yeah, yeah.

Sarah Alysse Bobo 29:56  

But I loved how my mom created it. So it was perfect. And you can also, I'm on LinkedIn, Sarah Alysse Bobo, so just connect with me. Also, Lesley is on the pod. I have a podcast called Stress Free SOULutions. S-O-U-L. So I love to have you join us there and listen to our conversation. 

Lesley Logan 29:56  

Yeah, that was a fun one. That was a good talk. Well, thank you. You've given us a lot. It's been really fun, the different tools you've given us, but we want those bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us? 

Sarah Alysse Bobo 30:31  

So in order to be it till you see it, you have to be your dream self and live in that dream self every single day. So I'm talking, if you want to be the CEO of a Pilates studio, then you have got to live that dream life like, what every morning? Does she do feet and straps every morning, does she make sure that she has everything organized in her studio? What is it that is going to move the needle forward? So just make sure that you're being it, dream it, live it every single day. I know I repeated that, but I just, I want to stress it. 

Lesley Logan 31:17  

Yeah, I think that's so important. You got to repeat it sometimes, so people don't, they have to hear it often. They're like, hold on, writing it down. Oh, thank you. We're elder millennials. It's like when you say your phone number two times, even though it's on people's screen and they can just hit call back. But it's like that. That's what (inaudible). I love that. 

Lesley Logan 31:36  

Sarah Alysse, I think, clearly, it's something that you have been practicing, because no one gets to do all these amazing things you're excited to do and be a new mom, unless you weren't working backwards from the woman you want to be. So thank you for being an example, and thank you for sharing who you are and all your amazing tips. You guys, make sure you check out Sarah Alysse online. You can find her on LinkedIn, on socials, and tell her how these tools affected you, and send this to a friend who needs to hear it. Let's up-level all the people around us. It makes it a lot easier to hang out with a lot of people if they are ditching their stories and actually saying kind things about themselves. So show this to a friend who needs it, and until next time, Be It Till You See It. 

Lesley Logan 32:17  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 32:59  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. 

Lesley Logan 33:04  

It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.

Brad Crowell 33:09  

Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan 33:16  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 33:19  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

Real progress can start with small steps, especially when we make time for self-care. This FYF, Lesley shares Djamila’s wins—from new clients to fresh confidence—as she grows her business and embraces personal goals. Lesley also reflects on her own journey to prioritize her health and gaining strength for a big fitness shoot. Join Lesley to celebrate each step forward and discover how a little self-advocacy can set the stage for even bigger wins.

If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at [email protected].

And as always, if you’re enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.

In this episode you will learn about:

• Djamila’s New clients, improved self-advocacy, and business milestones.
• Lesley’s Health advocacy and the strength to pursue a challenging photo shoot.
• Why prioritizing health can provide the foundation for future achievements.
• The value of changing your mind with love and self-compassion.

Episode References/Links:

• FemGevity - https://beitpod.com/femgevity
• Forever Strong by Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - https://a.co/d/hCDUowU

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Lesley Logan 0:00  

It's Fuck Yeah Friday.

Brad Crowell 0:01  

Fuck yeah.

Lesley Logan 0:02  

Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. 

Lesley Logan 0:46  

Hey, Be It babe, Happy Fuck Yeah Friday. We've got some wins of yours to share. We've got a win of mine. We are coming closer and closer with every single one of these Fridays at the end of the year. And so, my goodness, I hope you are taking some time to celebrate some wins by now. Because, if not now, when? And why wait till the end of the year to like, oh, I'm gonna make all these changes next year. Celebrate wins now, and these little wins can help you start to make changes this year. So let's get to yours first. Actually, that is the order. I almost went out of order. So let's get to yours first. 

Lesley Logan 1:15  

We have a couple from Djamila, so she will be our wins for today from you guys. Djamila is an agency member, and has lived all over this world, all, all over this world, and now is in Switzerland, I believe. Here we go. Her wins, surviving a painful double ear infection with flu. Oh, my God. Published my second meta ad, and it's helped me understand the unique selling points of my product and generate a new trial session in two days, create a new promotional flyer and got it printed, training my coaches on what's important and non negotiable to me when working with the clients, it's working because the feedback from clients who have tested other studios has also been super positive, and this has boosted my confidence, because I am seeing the value of my experience. They are seeing the value of my experience. Had a coaching call with Kirsten, who really helps making social media accessible. Almost done reading Dr. Gabrielle Lyon's book Forever Strong. She is protein-obsessed, and I know that you'd eat more of it. What I like is how she flips a narrative from people are over fat to people are under muscled being thinking of other areas of my life and biz where a similar flip could help me. Code of the week that I got from a friend on LinkedIn, why seek a job that you are fully qualified for and can do? There'll be no room to grow and learn in. Ah, these wins are from earlier this year, and there's so many in there, and I do love the narrative change of people are under-muscled. I love that you are reading that Djamila and calling it a win in your life, because I think this is a really cool thing for us all to explore. I just, I really do. 

Lesley Logan 2:39  

So your next set of wins came later this summer. Two little wins for me. Last week, I convinced a client who has back issues that instead of canceling his hit strength training membership with my studio, he should come try Pilates as it might suit his needs better, and if he liked it, we could discuss transferring his membership to Pilates classes. He accepted instead of haggling to get out of his contract, I'm totally being it till I see it, because I know I'm not even teaching Pilates at my studio yet. I just, she's a Pilates, side note, you guys, she's a Pilates instructor for many, many years, so just doesn't have it in her studio yet. Okay, back to her. I just sent out my first studio newsletter using MailChimp. Yay. Looks so much more professional than a regular Gmail. Met with a lawyer friend who has agreed to help sort me out with some legal docs I need in Switzerland. Sometimes daring to ask for help really pays off. Djamila, I think like asking for help somehow always, does pay off. And I just want to say thank you. Your wins, when you post them, they're so reflective. And I even learned something about how I, other things I can see as a win. And so I'm so excited to share your wins with our, with everyone listening to the Be It Pod today, because you know, you can survive a double ear infection with the flu, and that's a win. You can, you can, you can get that on the other side. So just absolutely thank you for being you, and thank you for being vulnerable, and thank you for sharing all of these wins. You guys, if you sent out a MailChimp for the first time, it's a win, right? It's really a win. Instead, we focus on how long it took and why I've been pushing up for so long, and what, like, someone unsubscribed instead of going, I actually did something really hard today. That's a win. That's an FYF. 

Lesley Logan 4:09  

All right, so today, as you're listening to this, is the day before I am going to do my photoshoot for the Accessories Deck. And in my last, really, like, since 2007 I had a lot of stomach issues, and so a lot of the shoots that I've done, I've done in like stomach pain or just not having eaten that day because I don't want to start the stomach pain off while I'm on the photoshoot, which does affect my ability to do the actual exercise and have the energy and stamina to do it. But because I'm working with FemGevity, because I've been advocating my health. My stomach has been doing so, so much better. And so my body is ready for this photo shoot. And I, in caution say that because, out of context, I don't want everyone to think I'm talking about body appearance. That's not what I'm talking about at all. But like the strength of my body. I've been able to actually absorb the nutrition that I've been putting in my body, and all because I advocated myself earlier this year, and not that I ever stopped. I finally found someone who was listening, and in that collaboration together, I've gotten so much out of it, and so I share this with you, because if you have projects that you're just procrastinating on, if it is because of your health, because your hormones are not where you want them to be, or maybe you're feeling a little bit down, or maybe you're not feeling as strong as you used to, or as energized as you used to. Getting help for yourself is a win, and then you'll get to do those things you desire to do, because I would really, really hate to be sitting here and procrastinating on my deck because my stomach was bothering me and my body wasn't strong enough. This deck required more strength than any of the decks because there's so many little tools that I had to practice and so many little accessories, and I needed to practice all of them. And they're accessories for a reason. You don't practice all of them all the time, and I had to do that, plus the guillotine, which I don't always have access to. And so my win is I ready in my body for this, and it is ready for this, and I am ready for this shoot to bring you the most amazing deck possible. And it's because several months ago, I said yes to getting help. And so that's my win. So if you are needing that, please check out our FemGevity team because they are fabulous and wonderful and changed my life and truly have saved it and give me the strength that I need to do all the things I want to do. So there's this deck, but there's more to come, right? There's winter tour and things like that. 

Lesley Logan 6:28  

So all right, let's get you a mantra for your weekend. There is peace in changing your mind when it is done in love. There is peace in changing your mind when it is done in love. There is peace in changing your mind when it is done in love. All right, loves, feel free to always change your mind. Send those wins in. We want to celebrate your wins here on the Be It Pod. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. 

Lesley Logan 6:54  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 7:36  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 7:41  

It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.

Brad Crowell 7:46  

Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan 7:53  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 7:56  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

Don't miss this episode—join Lesley and Brad as they reflect on their favorite takeaways from an inspiring conversation with Ericka Nicole Malone, a powerhouse writer, producer, and lifestyle expert. Known for creating compelling plays, films, and TV shows, Ericka’s journey of reigniting old passions and embracing new challenges offers meaningful lessons on building confidence and cultivating curiosity.

If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at [email protected].

And as always, if you’re enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.

In this episode you will learn about:

• How a sense of yearning and wonder can enhance self-confidence.
• The benefits of trying new things and stepping out of your comfort zone.
• The importance of safeguarding your goals from negativity and naysayers.
• Why self-compassion is a crucial element in overcoming guilt and self-doubt.
• The value of pushing beyond fears to achieve what you truly want.

Episode References/Links:

• Cambodia February 2025 Retreat - https://crowsnestretreats.com/
• Flashcards Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlist
• Pilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/accelerator
• OPC Winter Tour - https://opc.me/tour
• Flashcards on Amazon - https://a.co/d/5zF8Mc9
• Ericka Nicole Malone - https://erickanicolemalone.com
• The Bucket Wish Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/bucketwishofficial
• The Artist's Way - https://juliacameronlive.com/
• Ep. 298 Michael Unbroken - https://beitpod.com/ep298

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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

It's possible that you're playing small or your fears, they're very valid because of your past experience, but if you don't give yourself the opportunity to jump into something new, to see what's on the other side, you will always have a fear-based life without enjoying what you want. 

Lesley Logan 0:19  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. 

Lesley Logan 1:01  

Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the versatile convo I have with Ericka Nicole Malone. Yes, don't you want a name that has, that's like that? 

Brad Crowell 1:11  

All three things? 

Lesley Logan 1:12  

Ericka Nicole Malone, in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, you should pause this now, and you should listen to it, or listen to this one, then listen to that one. See if we have the same takeaways. If you watch our situation on the YouTube, I don't know, I don't know if we edited, I hope we edit out where I spilt water all over the desk during the interview. 

Brad Crowell 1:30  

I think we did. We definitely did. 

Lesley Logan 1:32  

And Ericka is she's got a little fear of dogs, and one of the dogs opened the door during the interview, so we no longer are doing in-person interviews.

Brad Crowell 1:41  

For sure we edited that out, too.

Lesley Logan 1:43  

Oh my God. Anyways, it was okay. Just a great interview. What we didn't, what we left on? 

Brad Crowell 1:50  

Well, it was actually cool, because she came here, so she was actually in person, which we've only done that a few times before, maybe half a dozen, in all these episodes? 

Lesley Logan 2:00  

In-person interview? Not at the house. Oh, we did Michael Unbroken was here at the house. 

Brad Crowell 2:04  

Kareen, Michael, Nikole. 

Lesley Logan 2:06  

Kareen was not at that we did it at her place.

Brad Crowell 2:09  

Oh yeah, we did. But yeah, I know.

Lesley Logan 2:10  

So in our studio.

Brad Crowell 2:12  

Yeah.

Lesley Logan 2:12  

We've had two. 

Brad Crowell 2:13  

Michael and Nikole and Ericka, so three.

Lesley Logan 2:16  

Oh yeah, yeah, Nikole, Nikole. Nikole Mitchell. Well, I'm sorry, this is Ericka Nicole Malone, so I was confused. 

Lesley Logan 2:24  

Anyways, today is November 21st 2024 and it's Used Less Stuff Day. I'm gonna tell you about this day, because the way I think of it, it means, like, don't use too much (inaudible). 

Brad Crowell 2:33  

If you read it really fast, it says useless stuff. 

Lesley Logan 2:36  

Useless stuff. 

Brad Crowell 2:37  

But that's not the day it is Used Less Stuff Day. 

Lesley Logan 2:41  

Used Less Stuff. Used Less Stuff Day. 

Brad Crowell 2:44  

Used Less useless stuff. How about that? 

Lesley Logan 2:46  

Yeah. In the 50s, minimalist art rose to prominence, and minimalistic design and architecture grew popular. Japan shifted towards making homes that did not require expensive materials and was reduced to the basic element. Life was chaotic, and we crowded in the cities and people wanted to simplify by buying fewer things and using as little space as possible. The day was created to spread awareness about the clutter of unnecessary things in our homes, especially during one of the busiest shopping months of the year, encourages people to adopt a minimalist lifestyle, where only the essentials are bought or kept. I just want to say we no longer subscribe to minimalist life. 

Brad Crowell 3:20  

Who? You and me? 

Lesley Logan 3:20  

Yeah, we used to. 

Brad Crowell 3:21  

Yeah. We definitely tried. 

Lesley Logan 3:23  

Okay, so here's the deal. 

Brad Crowell 3:24  

Even in that space, we still had stuff. 

Lesley Logan 3:26  

Yeah, well, it's because you're a master packer. We, here's what I'm gonna say, that we're gonna commit to around the weekend of this episode coming out. We, speaking of Michael Unbroken, we are going to host some of his artwork in a closet while he's traveling the world. We don't actually have a single closet where anything more could. Yeah, look at that babe. Look at that closet. So that closet you're looking at is a little scary, but I think if we just commit. 

Brad Crowell 3:51  

It's just full of coats. 

Lesley Logan 3:53  

If we commit, no, you have so many instruments in that closet. No, there are boxes in there that have nothing inside them. We're just holding on to boxes of things that we bought years ago. You couldn't return if you wanted to. 

Brad Crowell 4:08  

Yeah, those probably could go now. They were bought. 

Lesley Logan 4:10  

I would just like to put it on the record. 

Brad Crowell 4:12  

A couple of years ago.

Lesley Logan 4:12  

On the record that between this episode dropping and Thanksgiving, we are going to make space in this closet because we've committed to holding on to someone's artwork. 

Brad Crowell 4:22  

I did think where are we going to put them? And this is the only logical choice and so it does need to be reviewed. We do have, by the way, a dog conveyor belt situation. What's it called? Walking? When you walk on a thing. 

Lesley Logan 4:36  

The dog treadmill? 

Brad Crowell 4:37  

Treadmills. That's the word. 

Lesley Logan 4:38  

I thought we gave it away. 

Brad Crowell 4:38  

Nope. Still in there. 

Lesley Logan 4:39  

You hid it. There's also a, I can see at least one trombone and a Roomba that we used a time.

Brad Crowell 4:53  

We used it like four times. 

Lesley Logan 4:55  

Yeah, somebody want a Roomba, but let us know. Okay, we'll give you a good price. We did, recently, just get back from Cambodia. We've been back for a bit and.

Brad Crowell 4:55  

Yeah, that's true. We've been back for a month. 

Lesley Logan 5:04  

Yeah. And so we want you to come with us. 

Brad Crowell 5:07  

Yeah, actually, five weeks. But we also extended our trip and went one more country over, which you could do, too if you join us, February, we're gonna be going back. We're gonna take an amazing group. We already have an incredible group coming with us. 

Lesley Logan 5:15  

Oh, my God, amazing, amazing (inaudible). 

Brad Crowell 5:16  

Yes, we're really fired up. It's a bunch of people who've been clients of ours for a long time. It's gonna be so much fun we cannot wait. And don't worry, if you have not been a client of ours for a long time, you're gonna just fit right into the mix. Don't worry about that. Yeah. So go to crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestreets.com the experience in Cambodia is like a once in a lifetime or maybe twice a lifetime experience, because we've had people come back, 20 people come back (inaudible) actually, it is just mind blowing, so you have to come, you have to enjoy it. Okay, next up. 

Lesley Logan 5:53  

Literally, when this comes out, I'm gonna be in Los Angeles, truly getting as much guillotine into my body for the photo shoot that we're doing on Saturday for the Accessories Pilates flashcard deck. And the accessories deck is the last deck in our Pilates flashcard series. And don't worry if you don't know what a guillotine is, it's only like 11 exercises in this deck. Majority of the exercises are things you can make from household products. I am committed to figuring out how to make the push up devices with PVC pipe, babe, we have to actually make a commitment to doing that because somebody on Instagram commented because I was showing them how I do a handstand. Did I show you my new handstand on my push up devices? 

Brad Crowell 6:30  

Yeah, yeah, you showed me the video you did. It's pretty awesome. It's a great way to train. 

Lesley Logan 6:35  

Yeah. It's a really great way to train. It's a little freaking scary. At any rate, I got these handles, and I know that we can make them with PVC pipe, because I have seen it, I've done some research, so I want to figure out and make a pair out of PVC pipe, because the actual push of devices literally costs $700 now. It is insanity, because it's, this is what I was told, it's hand-spun wood. 

Brad Crowell 6:59  

I think so. 

Lesley Logan 7:00  

Yeah, so that costs a lot of money. At any rate, we're doing that photo shoot in LA. That's what this whole thing came from. And if you want to learn how to use marbles at home to better your feet or use your towels in a better way. 

Brad Crowell 7:12  

We'll be making marbles. 

Lesley Logan 7:13  

We're not going to make the marbles. I do have to buy some. That reminded me, I need to do that now. But the accessories deck you want to get on the wait list, because that's when you get the best price. And that's opc.me/flashcardwaitlist. I'm gonna do a shout out for the flash cards next week. Next week is the Black Friday Cyber Monday situations. 

Brad Crowell 7:33  

It is. 

Lesley Logan 7:33  

And we will have a tiny 10% sale on the flash cards. But that's not as good as if you're on the presale wait list for the accessories deck, because you could get 30% off when the presale happens you want to (inaudible).

Brad Crowell 7:47  

Yeah. So these flash cards aren't going to come out till next year, probably around the summer. We're shooting for beginning middle of summer and making sure that we're on point this time. We had a lot of extraneous things get in the way last year, like hurricanes and things like that.

Lesley Logan 8:02  

Yeah. Our goal is to do presale earlier, so that they ship before hurricane season. That's the new goal. 

Brad Crowell 8:08  

That's the goal. So anyway, go to opc dot moi

Lesley Logan 8:13  

No, just me/flashcardwaitlist, all one word. Then Brad is a host in this amazing webinar. We've had so many people attend it. 

Brad Crowell 8:22  

It's been great. 

Lesley Logan 8:22  

It's been really a great, people really loved it. It's been really inspiring. How many do you have left for the rest of this year?

Brad Crowell 8:28  

One? 

Lesley Logan 8:28  

Okay, so you need to go to prfit.biz/accelerator. If you are a Pilates teacher, studio owner who works for themselves and wants your work to work for you. There will probably be more in the new year. So, you know, stay tuned. But also, don't you want to start the new year off knowing you have the support for your business?. You do. prfit.biz/accelerator. 

Lesley Logan 8:47  

And last but not least, in a couple of weeks, literally two weeks away, we are on tour. Balanced. Body is powering this tour. They're our primary sponsor. They're amazing. We've got gift certificates to raffle off. And we were going to 22 cities, over 8000 miles, over 40 classes and workshops, and you guys, at the time we're recording this, two cities are fully sold out, with two other cities so close to being fully sold out, and the other cities are like half sold out. So you cannot sleep on this. You must, you must, you must, snag your spot now at opc.me/tour. Yeah. Before we get into Ericka Nicole's amazing interview, what is our audience question? 

Brad Crowell 9:24  

Sorry, Ericka Nicole Malone.

Lesley Logan 9:27  

Yeah. Ericka Nicole Malone.

Brad Crowell 9:27  

I do all three.

Lesley Logan 9:28  

I do all three. That's right, because she's got that name. It's so good. 

Brad Crowell 9:32  

All right. Kira on IG asked hey, I live in Germany. How do I buy the OPC flash cards?

Lesley Logan 9:39  

Yeah. So here is the deal, we have tried extremely. 

Brad Crowell 9:43  

Well. First, let's ask. Let's just answer the question. You can buy them from Amazon. You can buy them from our website. Now, the shipping from the United States. So, it may cost a lot. Someone just bought some who lived in Singapore, and they spent $96 on shipping. So they actually bought all the decks. 

Lesley Logan 9:59  

I actually thought it was cheap, not bad for shipping to Singapore. I mean, I expected it to be a lot, but I also was like, oh, that wasn't the worst. I mean, to Australia, I saw a deck. One deck was, like, a $65 shipping. I'm like, the deck is $49. 

Brad Crowell 10:11  

Yeah. So, so here's what we recommend. The best thing you can do is get together with a whole bunch of friends and buy a bunch of them at the same time, yeah. And that way we can put them all in the same box and ship them all the same time. 

Lesley Logan 10:23  

We had a whole group of people in Brussels buy about 30 different decks together, and so it the shipping actually was not that bad for that many decks, because it's a lot, and then it goes up incrementally, but not incrementally a lot, just like a little bit, I guess it's what incrementally means.

Brad Crowell 10:41  

That's, yeah. Anyway, the point is there's power in numbers. And what Lesley was saying at the beginning, before I cut her off, is that, yes, hopefully someday we do have some kind of distributor over in Europe. We don't actually have one at the moment, so.

Lesley Logan 10:54  

Brad is convinced that if you all call Sissel.

Brad Crowell 10:57  

Yeah, S-I-S-S-E-L.

Lesley Logan 10:58  

And if you are in Europe, you know what that means, Sissel.

Brad Crowell 11:00  

Yeah, they're the distributor. 

Lesley Logan 11:01  

And you tell them, why aren't you carrying the OPC flash cards, OnlinePilatesClasses.com, flashcards, preferably with the email and pictures. And if you do it in numbers, they might actually email us back, because we have tried. Yes. This is why I'm putting you on blast. We have tried.

Brad Crowell 11:01  

Yeah, for a year. 

Lesley Logan 11:04  

More than a year, Brad, I think you started the conversation two decks ago. 

Brad Crowell 11:22  

Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, that was in England, though. Now we're in the German group. 

Lesley Logan 11:26  

Yeah, yeah. At any rate, we would love to have a distributor out there, but we don't. The other thing that could happen is some amazing studio who has a retail area that loves and enjoys buying things at a wholesale price and then reselling them, they can reach out. We do have minimums and then you get different discounts. We have someone in Australia, Pilates Nerd Down Under, she does that. And then in Canada, we have b.Pilates, Melissa Nagai. And those two help out the countries that their businesses are in, because the shipping is not when you buy, like we said, a big box, shipping is not so bad. And so, yes, they're a little bit more per deck than if you bought from us, but then you're not paying the crazy shipping.

Brad Crowell 12:11  

You're not paying the crazy shipping. 

Lesley Logan 12:11  

Yeah, so there's that. Thanks, Kira. I hope you get them. Make sure you send a picture. Do you know we had someone buy all of the decks who lives in a Oman?

Brad Crowell 12:21  

I did not. I missed that. Wow.

Lesley Logan 12:23  

I know. I got a picture. 

Brad Crowell 12:25  

That's amazing. 

Lesley Logan 12:26  

That's amazing. It looks so beautiful. 

Brad Crowell 12:27  

So cool. Well, thanks for supporting us. Thanks for supporting a small business and Lesley's creative work here, where she's passing on all that information. Stick around. We'll be right back for our chat about Ericka Nicole Malone. 

Brad Crowell 12:41  

Alrighty, welcome back. Let's talk about Ericka Nicole Malone. Erica is a powerhouse in the entertainment industry. As a writer and producer, she brings to life compelling plays, films and TV shows. Beyond that, she's a lifestyle expert, offering valuable insights on fashion, beauty, health and personal development, helping others live their best lives. I think she also used to be a model. Her latest project.

Lesley Logan 13:03  

She should be. I mean, she's so beautiful. 

Brad Crowell 13:04  

I think she was, I think that was part of her career in the past. Her latest project, The Bucket Wish, is a documentary that chronicles her inspiring journey towards living her dream life. And I think it was like, actually a bunch of challenges that she had given up on when she was younger and decided to go back and revisit, such as learning how to swim, such as, can't actually remember what the other example was. 

Lesley Logan 13:30  

I think she's playing a new instrument. 

Brad Crowell 13:32  

Oh. Flute. 

Lesley Logan 13:32  

Flute.

Brad Crowell 13:33  

That's what it was. Yeah, yeah. So stuff like that. 

Lesley Logan 13:35  

I mean, it's impressive, because I tried the flute and I could never, I couldn't do the. 

Brad Crowell 13:40  

You can't do the what? 

Lesley Logan 13:41  

Don't they have to do this?

Brad Crowell 13:43  

How's it? How's it go? If you're watching on YouTube, you're laughing along with me, all right.

Lesley Logan 13:52  

But am I right? That's what they do. They pull their bottom lip in. 

Brad Crowell 13:55  

Yes, it is.

Lesley Logan 13:56  

Do they bite their bottom lip? 

Brad Crowell 13:58  

No. 

Lesley Logan 13:58  

They just have to pull it in. 

Brad Crowell 13:59  

Yes. 

Lesley Logan 14:00  

That's exhausting.

Brad Crowell 14:01  

It's a muscle. It's a muscle.

Lesley Logan 14:03  

It's not about me. But Ericka Nicole Malone is learning it, so I think that's impressive. 

Brad Crowell 14:07  

All right. So about The Bucket Wish. This is different y'all from The Bucket List, which we know from the amazing movie. And of course, a bucket list, a bucket wish, is a list of personal aspirations and goals that individuals aim to achieve during their lifetime. So aspirations and goals, not necessarily things you want to have done, encouraging immediate action and fulfillment rather than postponing your dream. So bucket list, this is a cool way of thinking about, actually, the parallel here is like, be it till you see it, versus fake it till you make it. So I think that the bucket list is like, I'll put it on my bucket list and hope I get to it someday where a bucket wish is like, we're taking action and we're actually gonna do this now.

Lesley Logan 14:47  

That was a great parallel, babe. I cosigned to that. One thing that I loved was that she talked about, you can build confidence in your and having a yearning and a sense of wonder. And I think that that is a wonderful way of describing how to get confident. More confident in things. Because I think a lot of us go, oh, I can never do that. And then we wonder why we don't have confidence in things. But if you have this yearning to learn and a sense of wonder, you actually can kind of hold, suspend reality for a second and see yourself doing the thing, or learning how to do a thing or potentially, like it's a be it, it's another way of being till you see it. And I love that idea of getting confident by just having a sense of wonder, because you're not holding space for I could never do that. 

Brad Crowell 14:47  

Yeah. So, so there's an interesting, this is interesting. How do you get a sense of yearning and wonder so that you can build your confidence? 

Lesley Logan 15:27  

That's a great question. 

Brad Crowell 15:38  

Yeah. So Lesley and I did a course a couple years back now, where we did the book called The Artist's Way. 

Lesley Logan 15:46  

Oh yeah, it was so fun. 

Brad Crowell 15:47  

And I felt like that was really strategic and approachable for how do you get curious? How do you get that sense of wonder? How do you actually build that back into your life, if you don't feel like you're curious today or have a sense of wonder today, part of the homework that we had to do was go out and try new things once a week, for like twelve weeks. 

Lesley Logan 16:08  

By ourselves. 

Brad Crowell 16:09  

By ourselves. You had to do it alone. 

Lesley Logan 16:11  

Yeah. Maybe you went walking outside with your shoes off. 

Brad Crowell 16:14  

Yeah. And it was, you know, just trying all sorts of different things, and it gave you a different perspective of the normality that we've created in the lives that we repeat over and over again. Instead of that, what if you were trying new things, right? So I think that's a great way to start creating a sense of wonder because once you put yourself back in this place of curiosity and experiencing life, when you see something else, maybe you will have a sense of wonder and yearning. And Ericka is suggesting that that will also bring confidence as you start to go experiencing (inaudible).

Lesley Logan 16:46  

I have one more. I have one more takeaway, yeah, sometimes you don't know that, if you just jump into the something new, what will be on the other side? And I think always, you don't know when it's new, what'll be on the other side, but.

Brad Crowell 16:56  

What will be on the other side of climbing through a cave and a hole that's about two feet wide.

Lesley Logan 17:03  

I mean, I did that, but you guys, I don't understand but.

Brad Crowell 17:05  

What was on the other side? 

Lesley Logan 17:07  

More bats, more bat poop, big spiders. And I did that while also hoping I didn't shit myself. I was sweating from the humidity, sweating from the humidity, and sweating, those of you who have ever had like, a day where you're just like, oh my God, I'm gonna have diarrhea, that chill, that sweat, that you get, that clamminess, that's what I was climbing through a hole in a cave to another. I'm like, how far is this going to go? Are we going on the other side? I'm gonna have to poop with the bats. At any rate, you don't know, but I'm gonna call on Chris Goodman here, when we first learned from him, we had that fear episode with him. He's like, wWhat if on the other side of the fear is exactly what you want? And so I just want to put that together with what Ericka Nicole Malone said, which is, like, you jump into something new, and on the other side you might get what you want.

Brad Crowell 17:59  

How about that. I love it. I mean, imagine if we took conscious action towards the thing that we want, instead of self sabotage, of unconsciously not taking the action because we want this thing, but then we don't take action on it. 

Lesley Logan 18:13  

And also, like, I just want, like, since we're talking on the day of the election, I mean, it's possible that you've tried new things before, and like been slapped in the face. Right? We can all remember what 2016 felt like, and so it's possible that you're playing small or your fears, they're very valid because of your past experience. But if you don't give yourself the opportunity to jump into something new to see what's on the other side, you will always have a fear-based life without enjoying what you want. 

Brad Crowell 18:47  

Yeah, that's well said.

Lesley Logan 18:50  

Thank you. Your turn. 

Brad Crowell 18:51  

Okay, so I really loved when she was talking about belief. She said believe in your own projects and in your vision. And she also said coupling that you have to protect yourself, okay? And this is kind of an oldie but goodie, but you're always going to have naysayers in your life. You're always going to have and maybe those people are your friends and family who are trying, thinking that they're looking out for you, but really they're just putting their own fears on your vision. 

Lesley Logan 19:17  

They also might be total assholes, like I.

Brad Crowell 19:19  

They could totally be assholes.

Lesley Logan 19:20  

They're, I definitely believe you. If you tell me your family is full of assholes, I'm going to believe you, because sometimes they are, and I'm so sorry, but you're hopefully avoiding them for a reason. So why are they taking that space in your life? 

Brad Crowell 19:32  

Yeah, so anyway, protect yourself. Protect your heart. She said, steer clear of people who are consistently bringing negativity. Talk to people who will get behind you instead because they believe in you, and that's going to give you encouragement and then confidence as well. She also said you won't be able to sell anything that you're making if you don't believe in it yourself. It's not that everything is about selling, but maybe your thing is and you made this awesome script or this awesome play or whatever. Like she did. 

Lesley Logan 19:33  

Or you want music or a book or poems or a class or a workout style, like anything that you've created and put together, yeah?

Brad Crowell 20:08  

For people who are in our lives that we have to engage with who are negative, she had some quick advice. She said just keep it short. Just keep it short. 

Lesley Logan 20:17  

I know it's like, well, that is such a simple and genius advice. 

Brad Crowell 20:22  

You know, we know who those people are in our world, and we could still be cordial and kind to them and not engage.

Lesley Logan 20:28  

Yeah, every day I go to a park, and there are very cordial people that have something to say every day about how I'm wearing shorts. They say it every time, and I sure they mean, well, it's for their religion that they're trying to push on people, and I just keep it short. I'm like, oh, it's a windy day, ladies, make sure you go. Stay warm. Keep it short, and I can still be nice. Yeah. I still smile 

Brad Crowell 20:54  

Totally. 

Lesley Logan 20:54  

Yeah. You've been there. You saw. 

Brad Crowell 20:56  

Oh yeah, yeah. They're very nice, too. Yes. All right. Well, hey, stick around, because in just a minute, we're going to talk about those Be It Action Items that we got from Ericka Nicole Malone. 

Brad Crowell 21:05  

Okay, finally, let's talk about those, Be It Action Items Say it with me, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Erica Nicole Malone? She said, hey, be kind to yourself. Just start with that.

Lesley Logan 21:21  

Oh my God, that if you if you actually were honestly kind to yourself, just see what happens.

Brad Crowell 21:28  

Yeah, it's, you know, I had this really interesting conversation with someone recently about guilt, and I think that the pathway out of that is being kind to yourself. Oh, yeah, because I grew up in that world and. 

Lesley Logan 21:42  

You grew up in a world where they made you feel guilty or shameful? Because there's a difference.

Brad Crowell 21:47  

Guilt. 

Lesley Logan 21:48  

So they didn't say you are this. 

Brad Crowell 21:49  

No, it was if you do this thing, it will be bad, right?

Lesley Logan 21:53  

I wonder. We have to ask Brene Brown if that falls in the shame category. 

Brad Crowell 21:56  

No, it's guilt. And so the problem is that you might not take the actions, but you still think things right, and then that creates guilt, right? Feel guilty for how come I thought that, man, I must be a terrible human so even if you're the most perfect goodie Two-Shoes, you still have a mind, and you're not necessarily sharing everything that goes through there, right? So. 

Lesley Logan 22:17  

There are so many cults that actually this is a thing. If you think the thing, you have to go confess to thinking the thing. And that is, keep going, keep going. 

Brad Crowell 22:25  

Yeah, well, that's the first step. I think of unfucking that mess is kindness to yourself, because we are human and our brains are impressionable. We watch movies, we see things that are terrifying, we see things that are sad, and our brains are creative, and they just make things up and they do stuff. So I'm grateful that I have the filter of being able to process what my brain is thinking before acting on it. I also think that is a little bit of a learned behavior. I remember my mom saying, think before you speak, but you know.

Lesley Logan 22:56  

Oh yeah, they must have the same parenting book.

Brad Crowell 22:59  

But, but I think that the first step of just being confident is being kind to yourself. 

Lesley Logan 23:05  

Yeah, yeah. So I really loved and it's another simple but totally difficult make clear goals for your life, clear goals for your life. So not this bucket list of someday I'll jump out of the plane. Clear goals. What do you want? Really think about it. And if you can't figure out what you want, think about how you want to feel and what you want to, maybe, what's his name? Storybrand guy. Donald Miller.

Brad Crowell 23:32  

Donald Miller.

Lesley Logan 23:33  

You know he's like, do your, write your eulogy. You're giggly. 

Brad Crowell 23:38  

You're googly? How about you googl-ize it?

Lesley Logan 23:42  

Yeah. So you can think about that. What do you want people to say about what you did? And that can help you figure it out and then make clear goals based on that. And I think that that is one of the hardest and most important, and also kind of a simple Be It Action Item, when you think about it, but most people don't have their goals. They're just going through every day is the same as yesterday, just doing it.

Brad Crowell 24:11  

Yeah, they're trying to make things at least three times as big. 

Lesley Logan 24:14  

And by the way, if that's you, then go back to be kind with yourself, because you can stop that. You can stop the hamster wheel anytime. Yeah. Anyways, I'm Lesley Logan. 

Brad Crowell 24:25  

And I'm Brad Crowell. 

Lesley Logan 24:26  

Thank you, Ericka Nicole Malone, for being on the Be It podcast. We cannot wait to see The Bucket Wish documentary. Super exciting. All the other work you're doing. You guys, how are you going to use these tips in your life? We want to know. Make sure you tag Ericka Nicole Malone. You tag the Be It Pod. You share this with a friend, and until next time, you know what to do, Be It Till You See It. 

Brad Crowell 24:26  

Bye for now.

Lesley Logan 24:47  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 25:28  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 25:33  

It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.

Brad Crowell 25:37  

Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan 25:44  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 25:48  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

Acclaimed writer, director, and executive producer Ericka Nicole Malone joins Lesley to share her journey of reigniting old dreams and exploring new ones. In this candid conversation, Ericka dives into her latest documentary, The Bucket Wish, and reflects on how embracing life’s challenges has deepened her purpose and strengthened her confidence. Through her insights, Ericka encourages others to pursue their passions, overcome perfectionism, and live authentically.

If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at [email protected].

And as always, if you’re enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.

In this episode you will learn about:

• The making of The Bucket Wish and Remember Me: The Mahalia Jackson Story.
• Ericka’s “Bucket Wish” framework for uncovering new possibilities.
• How new experiences can build confidence and resilience.
• Conquering self-doubt and overcoming perfectionism.
• Embracing failure as part of the creative and learning journey.
• The importance of protecting your dreams from negative influences.

Episode References/Links:

• Ericka Nicole Malone Website - https://erickanicolemalone.com
• Ericka Nicole Malone Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/erickanicolemalone
• Ericka Nicole Malone TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@erickanicolemalone
• Ericka Nicole Malone Twitter - https://x.com/ErickaNMalone
• The Bucket Wish Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/bucketwishofficial
• The Mahalia Jackson Story on Hulu - https://www.hulu.com/movie/remember-me-the-mahalia-jackson-story
• Backward Wish Documentary - https://erickanicolemalone.com/the-bucketwish/
• Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert - https://a.co/d/6TGbonV

Guest Bio:

Ericka Nicole Malone is indeed a multifaceted entrepreneur in the entertainment industry. Her roles span from being a playwright, a producer, to a lifestyle expert, each showcasing her diverse skills and expertise. As a playwright, Malone crafts compelling stories, dialogues, and characters for theatrical productions, demonstrating her creativity, storytelling prowess, and understanding of dramatic structure and audience engagement. In her role as a producer, Malone oversees various aspects of bringing a creative project to fruition, whether it's a play, film, or television show. This includes securing funding, assembling talent and crew, managing budgets and schedules, and ensuring the production's overall success. Beyond theater and production, Malone also shines as a lifestyle expert, offering advice and insights into various aspects of living well. This could encompass fashion, beauty, health, wellness, and personal development, leveraging her experience and knowledge to help others enhance their lifestyles. One of her latest and most exciting projects is "The Bucket Wish. This documentary follows her personal quest to live the life she always imagined. It captures her journey and is meant to inspire others to chase their dreams. This project is a testament to her versatility, adaptability, and comprehensive understanding of the entertainment industry. Her multidisciplinary approach allows her to pursue her creative passions and leverage her skills and expertise across various domains, maximizing her impact and success as an entrepreneur in the entertainment field.

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Episode Transcript:

Ericka Nicole Malone 0:00  

It's just jumping into it, right? Sometimes you don't know that if you just jump into something new what will be on the other side? And how many people have died never tapping, never looking behind the curtain. At the end of it, you may not hold the trophy, you may not get the Oscar, but you tried and there's beauty in it.

Lesley Logan 0:24  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  

Lesley Logan 1:05  

All right, Be It babe. I am so excited for this episode to be in your ears today, and if you're watching on YouTube, you're gonna see that I'm in a different place in the pod room, because our guest is in my seat. Ericka Nicole Malone is our guest today. She is multifaceted. We can add so many different titles to her, but she's a writer, director, producer, executive producer. She is also a singer songwriter. She's doing a lot of amazing things. She's got incredible series out on Hulu right now, and then she's also going to be releasing an incredible documentary called The Bucket Wish. And we talked about confidence and negative people and getting your ideas out in the world and doing things for you. It was just really beautiful and authentic and really fun. I'm excited for you, not only to hear this amazing interview, I'm also excited to watch her girl documentary, which will be out this fall. I hope that you write down your own quotables. You know, we put them on the podcast interview Instagram, and hopefully you save those and share those. But seriously, grab a stack of Post-Its, and every time she says something you want to remember write it down, because you're going to have a bunch of little Post-Its you can put around your room to remind you that you're doing beautiful things in this world and the world needs to see your beautiful things. And that is what Ericka Nicole Malone is here to tell you. 

Lesley Logan 2:18  

All right, Be It babe, I'm really excited. I have a guest in the house today. This is so fun. It's so fun when there's a guest that's local. And I can't believe our paths haven't crossed before. But thank goodness for our dear friend Allison, who made sure I heard all about Ericka Nicole Malone and what she is up to does nothing short of kind of amazing. She is a multifaceted human, singer, writer, director. Forgive me if I put a title in there, you're not doing but I'm sure youre gonna do it soon. Ericka Nicole Malone, will you tell everyone who you are and what you're rocking at?

Ericka Nicole Malone 2:48  

Yeah. My name is Ericka Nicole Malone. I am a writer, a playwright, a screenwriter, author. I am a woman who is always about reinventing herself and inspiring others to reinvent themselves. And I am also an executive director, executive producer, and just full of life and wanting to live life and wanting other people to live theirs.

Lesley Logan 3:12  

Yeah. Okay, so you said I want to inspire people to live their life, and we're helping people with that. Where did that kind of come from? Is that something you want to do always? Is that, was there something that happened in your life, and then you're like, I've got to help other people. What's that impetus? What was that beginning? 

Ericka Nicole Malone 3:27  

I feel like it's kind of innate. I remember being little and just really caring about other people. It was. I remember being six or seven and going to the bank with my mother, and they'd hand out these suckers, which I think they still do. So this has been going on a minute, and I just remember they say here honey, here's a sucker, you're so cute. And I was like, but can I have a sucker for my brother? And they were like they give me a sucker. I was like, but I have two brothers. They give me, you know, two suckers. They're like, oh my gosh. You just, you don't care about just getting a sucker for yourself. You care about your brother getting a sucker. And I've always been concerned about other people making it too. And the world and people hurting and just people in bathrooms. Whenever there's a housekeeper or maid in the bathroom, I'm always tipping them. I always, I'm always concerned about people being looked over and forgotten and it's just so important to me that people find I get so shocked when people don't realize when they don't see people, they don't see homeless people, or they don't see people who are around them, or shoe shine man, that I'm always wondering how he's feeling throughout his day. And so yeah, it's always a big part of who I am.

Lesley Logan 4:42  

Yeah, I understand that we were talking about before we hit record, and it's like, it's really easy for people to put themselves in places where they don't have to see anybody. Yeah, I'm so used to having all the different types of people around that it would make me uncomfortable to not see them. I have this funny story. My dad is really funny. He'll say, I don't want to talk to anybody. I don't wanna go there. I have to talk to people. And the first thing we do when we're out of the car, he talks to everybody. He talks to every, we go to the gym at the Plaza Hotel and Casino, and we park in VIP, and he talks to every security guard always, even if he just said hello to them, because they let us through the gate, he still makes sure to talk to them. And I just laugh so hard because he's always like, I don't want to talk to people. But then he talks to everybody, to everyone, and I but I love it, because he sees everybody. And I think that that's something that like it's hard, it's not hard to do. It's actually quite something we could all do. But we get so busy in our phones and things like that, we don't see every people. And we also get really concerned with what's going on with ourselves that we forget to be concerned with others. You have been, you mentioned all these different amazing things. I also saw that you are learning to play the flute. So I guess what I think a lot of people will wonder when they heard all these things that you do is, how do you have, how did you have the time? Are you doing or are you learning different things at the same time? How did you go from producer, director, executive director, like, what was that line? What was that journey? 

Ericka Nicole Malone 6:01  

Well, when I wrote Remember Me: The Mahalia Jackson Story, my business partner and I, I'm the executive producer of that, along with my business partner, we wanted to finance it ourselves, and so that people could see the story. It's now on Hulu, but at the time, we worked with amazing director her name is Denise Dowse, but at the time we produced it and it was done, it was an amazing feat to see something that you created come to life, but it was like, now, after I did that, before I wrote another script, I've kind of felt in my spirit I needed to create something else, and it was to push the limits within myself. What are some of the things that I could have done that I didn't finish, or things that I did try and I failed at? What are some of the things and as I started writing the documentary for The Bucket Wish and creating the documentary, I realized that even though I have these huge feats that I have accomplished, there were things in my past that I quit on, like playing the flute, and when I was 10, or swimming, when I was around, I think it was eight or nine. What are some of the things that I didn't succeed? And something I realized that when I failed at something, I just pushed it to the side. And I really wanted to explore that. Writing is something I excel in, right? So, of course, I'm not going to push that to the side, because I can do that in my sleep, right? So I'm gonna, I can write something, you know? What do you want? I can get that done tomorrow, but something that you don't do well, you know what I mean, and part of that is where your confidence is, things that you, I'm saying, not everyone's meant to be a botanist. That's not what I'm saying. But I'm saying, if it's something that you yearn to do, say, you yearn to play the guitar, or you yearn to play drums or something, right? It's in your spirit, and it's calling out to you, and maybe you just don't do it as well, it doesn't mean you should stop doing it all together. Right? And I would just stop doing it all together and just focus on what I was good at. And that's not necessarily what builds your confidence. I think what builds your confidence is you have a yearning and a sense of wonder, and you're thinking, I want to try this or that, but maybe you fail, but you get back up and you keep trying. That is what builds your confidence. Doesn't mean you're going to do it as a career. It just means that you're living.

Lesley Logan 8:20  

Yeah. I think this is really beautiful, because one of the things this podcast is about is ditching perfection. And I think we expect ourselves, we have to be good at the thing we said we're gonna do. We don't allow us to be beginners anymore. 

Ericka Nicole Malone 8:32  

Exactly.

Lesley Logan 8:34  

And so people. 

Ericka Nicole Malone 8:35  

Or look silly. 

Lesley Logan 8:36  

Look silly. Exactly. So we were, we weren't good at something. And I also think even kids today, they're like, in one sport their whole lives, and I remember playing seven sports, and my dad's like, it's okay that you're not good. You're gonna keep going to practice, and you don't quit until the end of the season, and if you don't like it, (inaudible) you don't have to do it again. So I love what you're talking about, because confidence really is kind of it's about following through. It's not necessarily doing it for your work. And also, since when do we have to make everything we do make money, right? We could just go swimming.

Ericka Nicole Malone 9:06  

You can just go swimming. And, you know, I use this as a, I don't know if you saw Willy Wonka when it came out. I'm a big Willy Wonka fan from the very first inception, but also the new Wonka. But what I love about Wonka is it's just jumping into it, right? Sometimes you don't know that if you just jump into something new, what will be on the other side. And how many people have died never tapping, never looking behind the curtain. At the end of it, you may not hold the trophy, you may not get the Oscar, but you tried and there's beauty in it.

Lesley Logan 9:44  

Yeah. Okay, so Bucket Wish is this, is the documentary of you trying things out? 

Ericka Nicole Malone 9:48  

Trying things, you know, the flute, I don't know. And so funny is there's different nuances of flute I don't like, specifically spitting. But, I hate germs and so it's a lot for me, but I'm gonna, I'm gonna finish the lessons, right? Because that's the whole point. But I don't know if I'll do it, but I'm going to finish the lessons, but I might be a drummer. Doesn't seem like there's as much spitting with drums. I'm not sure. There's that and there's swimming. I need to learn to swim, all those kinds of things, photography, I'm really attracted to taking pictures, and so I bought the camera. And so it's just different things. I'm gonna try and hopefully inspire people who have thought about giving up on their life, taking their life, that there's more out there. Don't quit. There's more. Keep walking.

Lesley Logan 10:39  

Yeah. What is it like to kind of put yourself to be a beginner over and over again, though, because I think that's a special I mean, it does build confidence. But also it's like to be a beginner at swimming, to be a beginner at playing the flute, to do these different things that are in your Bucket Wish. What was that like?

Ericka Nicole Malone 10:55  

You know, it was, it was scary. That's the best word I can say. I had gotten into The Groundlings in Los Angeles when I auditioned, and I didn't finish. This was about six years ago, but I was, I was like, this is gonna be hard. I'm gonna have to come to class every day and they do these little projects and they, they do experiments. I'm like, this sounds like forever. I just don't have it. And so I did, but I, so I did comedy in the The Bucket Wish because I was like, there was obviously a yearning for me. I graduated from youth performing arts high school in theater. So theater has always been a huge talent of me. So to do the comedy and do stand up was pretty scary to say the least, but because I'm a huge comedy fan. I love Tina Fey, I love all of those people, but I can tell you, it grew my confidence. And again, I thought I was confident because I'm a writer. I have a movie on Hulu. But I wasn't as confident as I thought I was. And that was shocking, because I'm like, I did modeling. What do you mean? I've some passions. What? But I wasn't and it wasn't until I did The Bucket Wish that I really became as confident as I know I could be. And now I'm shooting a new series. It's a lifestyle series I'm the host of, and I don't think I would have been as confident to do this had I not did The Bucket Wish.

Lesley Logan 12:18  

It's really funny. You may remember that I didn't finish a comedy class. I signed up for one in LA called Pretty Funny Women. 

Ericka Nicole Malone 12:25  

Didn't know that. 

Lesley Logan 12:26  

Uh huh, yeah. So Pretty Funny Women, if you, I mean, you're back and forth in LA, that woman, you have to know her, like, I will find her email and connect to she is amazing. And I went to the comedy class. I was on Monday nights, and I was late. It was, like, at eight something at night, which means, and I was in the valley, so I had to drive. But you know what I mean? 

Ericka Nicole Malone 12:42  

It's such a track. 

Lesley Logan 12:43  

Such a track, right? Which is the thing about trying new things, it's getting the routine around it. Anyways, she was like, yeah, you guys have to go to open mics. And I was like, that's fine. I'm okay because they won't know who I am anyway, so it doesn't really matter to me, but open mics are like, one in the morning, guys, 11 o'clock at night. I'm like, I'm in bed. (inaudible) Yeah. So then I was just like, are there lunchtime comedians? Is this like a thing?

Ericka Nicole Malone 13:07  

Cafe comedian? It's like, we're drinking morning coffee. 

Lesley Logan 13:11  

Yeah, yeah. I think that maybe this is not the vocation for me. I know because I was just like, I can't even do the homework. And she really, bless her soul, she really, really, really tried to get me come back. She's like, you're really funny, I think you've got some great experiences to share. And I was like, I agree with you, and I'm grateful that you saw that in me. Is there like an 8pm open mic?

Ericka Nicole Malone 13:33  

I totally, I totally need an 8 pm.

Lesley Logan 13:35  

I don't care if there's one person in that room, I just can't do two in the morning. I'm not that person. 

Ericka Nicole Malone 13:42  

Yeah, like, what are we doing up? Let's laugh about that. Why are you still up at one in the morning? So it's, you know, but comedy was fun. I mean, I always knew I was funny, but I'm like, bougie funny, you know? Like, I'll be funny depending on how I feel or something. But it was great. That was the hardest thing. Swimming was actually the hardest, but comedy was pretty amazing. Yes, please keep me in contact with that lady. I'll try, I'll try it and finish it. Maybe, maybe.

Lesley Logan 14:08  

I mean, sounds like you already did, but swimming, I think swimming is really hard, depending on how you were your experience was, if I remember you had a kind of a traumatic swimming experience. 

Ericka Nicole Malone 14:18  

Yeah, it was someone who pushed me in the water, and you just find (inaudible). I gotta tell you, when I was shot at the swimming, it's still hard. You're immersing yourself and it's what it says I have a huge pool in my backyard. I just look at like, I look at it like it's a lake. I enjoy it like a resort, but I don't get in it. It's just like the water is just like you feel like you're, you have no control. I feel like I'm drowning even though I'm not. So it's so definitely psychosomatic. But I am going to keep doing swimming because it's life or death. You know, you have to learn how to swim. 

Lesley Logan 14:52  

Yeah, it's a good skill to have. Okay, so I mentioned a few times, but can you tell everyone a little bit more about Bucket Wish? I mean, it's you trying out new things. What can people expect from it? Are you hoping they try like they start their own Bucket Wish? How do we write a Bucket Wish?

Ericka Nicole Malone 15:07  

I'm just basically using myself, you know? Because when you think of the bucket list, it's like, here's my last list before God takes me out of here. I'm gonna do all these things, God, I'm gonna jump. But this is not, this is what are your wishes? What are the wishes for your life while you're living? These are wishes for you to complete while you're living. It's a whole other dynamic, because you're gonna live say, I want you to be 20 and do a bucket wish. What are some of the things that you've always imagined you could do? Maybe it's animation. Maybe you want to write a children's book, I don't know, but I want you to believe that you can do it, and I want you to try, yeah, I want you to try, even if you have to put a little pin it, put a little note card in and say okay, I'm gonna need a little break. I'm gonna come back here. Follow through. Follow through on your wishes for you.

Lesley Logan 15:59  

Okay I really love the way you describe that, because I think it's true. There's the bucket list, which is, like, I want to do this before I die, which means you can kind of postpone it till forever (inaudible).

Ericka Nicole Malone 16:08  

Yeah. I will be 80, like, I must do my bucket wish. 

Lesley Logan 16:11  

I know people are always people are surprised, because I haven't been to a lot of places in Europe, and I'm like, guys, I've not been to Paris, it looks beautiful. It's on my list. 

Ericka Nicole Malone 16:19  

It's on my list. It's our bucket wish. 

Lesley Logan 16:22  

Yeah. But we, I think if I put it on a bucket wish, it becomes something that's a little bit more like, it's not gonna happen now and I gotta be thinking about it.

Ericka Nicole Malone 16:29  

Yeah and it's shocking, because when I had those in front of me, by the way, that I was fresh off, I mean, I had no idea what my wishes were. It's like, oh, my God, do I have to do these things? And you're gonna tape them.

Lesley Logan 16:43  

Yeah. So, okay, so you had people. So here's the thing, because everyone listening here is like, okay, I wanna write my Bucket Wish. You not only wrote The Bucket Wish, you actually then did it, but you had to let people watch you do it, which means you had to do, you couldn't back out. 

Ericka Nicole Malone 16:56  

It was like, it was trauma. And I'm telling you when I was gonna do the comedy in front of that microphone or in the back, I'm in the back dressing room with hair and makeup, and I'm like, I just hope this inspires people. You know, I had no idea how emotional I was because I was so afraid of being you have no idea how private I am. I am so private. So for me to do this, it's my love of humanity that wants to inspire people to jump. I mean, as just so many people, they were like, I feel like taking my life during COVID. I don't know what to do and I didn't recognize people really just don't know what to do. And even now, after the strikes, you had COVID in the strikes in LA, a lot of people are just trying to recapitulate. A lot of crew people trying to recapitulate. It's not the easiest thing to do is to, you know, so make some wishes, and you might not know that in that wish is a career or a path. Yeah, you know the way it is. You never and for me, it's God. For someone else, it might be something else, but for me, it's like you won't know until you take the step, as Dr. King said, take the step and the staircase will appear. 

Lesley Logan 18:06  

Yeah, yeah. I think you're, I think that's true. So many people just do what they did before and then it's scary when there's time on our hands. We don't know what to do with time on our hands, you know. And so. 

Ericka Nicole Malone 18:17  

What do we do? 

Lesley Logan 18:18  

But if you had tried out different things, even if you weren't good at them, even the act of the connections, like my husband, I, everyone's like, how did you raise me? And I'm like, we're in just by a mutual friend, and that friend is not even in our lives now. And she's like, and it wasn't even a bad thing. Nothing bad happened. She was kind of just like in for the season of one summer.  

Ericka Nicole Malone 18:38  

And then, and then she drifted away. 

Lesley Logan 18:39  

And she drifted away, and I still see what she's doing on Instagram. She got married. Congratulations. It's really funny, but I put myself in a different position, and that year to meet a new friend, and I was trying out new things with her, and that's how I met him. It's just you never not saying you're all gonna meet your husband, but you might meet a future business partner or a best friend, or no. You just don't know. But you have to try out things that are a little scary and a little bit like, what am I doing this for? What's the purpose behind this? Because it helps you find more purpose. 

Ericka Nicole Malone 19:07  

It really does. And so much of my life, I tell people all the time, everybody's like when am I gonna make it? I'm gonna, I just don't know. I don't know if it's gonna happen for me. And no big signs are coming, big movements, but all of my biggest blessings have come in small things. It's the small things that you're like, I don't know, just something like, it's worth my time. I don't know if I'm gonna do this. And you turn things, you turn your nose up, and then wrapped up in that is this big, precious jewel that you'd never see had you not taken a step so just be open to the small things. Don't always think hmm, this, I'm too good for this, because maybe it's not the person, but maybe it's two degrees of separation from this person and the next. 

Lesley Logan 19:55  

Yeah, yeah. So okay, I kind of want to go back to before the Sun Dance before the Hulu story that you wrote, what was it like to try to get your dreams that you had on paper out into the world? Because I think I know from living in LA it is not. There are so many scripts that so many people are going to say, oh, I want to do that. I want to do that, and it can get shelved. All these things would happen. How did you keep going? What was that journey like? And what was, what were you telling yourself to just keep putting one step in front of the other, like you were saying? 

Ericka Nicole Malone 20:26  

I feel like I'm a great manifester. I think it has a lot to do with the fact that I'm from Louisville, Kentucky, originally, and I lived in Los Angeles for a little bit, in Burbank in Glendale when I was selling the sitcom pilot. But I always get my house in Kentucky up till about five years ago. But when you're a black woman writer in Kentucky, so it does kind of help you to be really mentally tough and definitely, when I grew up, there weren't, you know, it's a sports town, and I'm like, yeah, I'm a writer. And they're like, okay, she's strange. Yeah, I mean, that's good, you know, I went to performing arts high school, but I think everyone kind of just thought I had a lot of lofty goals, and they thought I was delusional, I would say, but I just believed it was going to happen. So, you know, after I wrote Remember Me: The Mahalia Jackson Story, my business partner and I, you know, I shopped around Hollywood honestly, and another movie came out. It was in similar vein, but we just believed that it was going to happen, and we would put it in film festivals. It just took off and we ended up winning 40 film festivals, 58, 60 nominations. And from that, then I was able, we were able to get it licensed on Hulu, because it had already gained traction for itself. So I think it's just the belief in your own project and belief in your vision and film festivals are always a plus, especially if you're a new writer, burgeoning writer. For me, I wasn't new, but a lot of people hadn't heard of me. But, you know, I wrote plays to pay for tuition in college, and I believe that people would show up. And they did. I'd have 800 students in college when I was, like, 17 years old, $2 a ticket, and in my 20s, thousands of people would come to the plays. I just believe they would. I guess I just always believe it's gonna happen. And I believe that if I create a project, someone's going to buy it. It just depends on your perspective. I think if you're like, oh God, this is I'm gonna create this I wrote this magazine, or I did this animation, nobody's gonna buy this comic book you know, I'm just wasting my time. I should. Nobody's gonna buy it. Why should I buy your comic book? If you don't like your comic book or your animation or your children's book, you have to believe oh, my God, I wrote something. You just did not understand how amazing this is going to be. It's going to be really earth shattering. It is, and you're gonna love it. And they're like, Well, I mean, I don't know I wish I was gonna be if it's really good. Now, here's the thing, you have to have the quality. You can't over promote and under produce. I'll say that. But if it's really good, you have to believe that what is meant to be will happen for you because it will happen. It is possible. And so I tell people who don't have the money, they're like, I don't have the money. I want to, I'm a writer. I don't have the money. How do I do it? But do you have a phone? Do you have people that are actors that you can produce something on your phone? People have won awards for their phone movies. Then you put it in festivals, and then it'd be all of a sudden, next thing you know, this happens and that happens. Believe it's possible. So my next thing was, like, The Bucket Wish. I'm just gonna do a documentary. Never done one. Let's do it. I want to do it. I want to have this idea about wishes. If it comes to me, I believe it's supposed to manifest. I just believe it. I don't ever not believe it. And something else I don't do is talk to naysayers. If you know your cousin Trudy is always negative. Why are you calling Trudy? Trudy is gonna say the same negative thing no matter how good the idea is. It's okay to believe in your own vision and talk to people who will get behind you because they believe in you. And a lot of times, if those one people who say something negative that are stopping that seed from growing that could be the one they say in everyone's life you come up with 15 million, a million dollar ideas in every single person's life. But what happens to them? And you say, I have had your videos, and nobody's gonna buy that. Nobody's gonna buy that. 

Lesley Logan 24:44  

I mean, everyone needs to rewind that and hear that twice, because it's so true. First of all, the idea came to you because it wants to be born, and, it wants to be born, so in Big Magic, which I've read several times, she, Olivia Gilbert, talks about how ideas come to you because they want to be born, and she shares a story about how an idea came to her, and she did all the research, all the things, and she put it aside. You're a writer, you know, like you can talk about some of the stuff you do, but you keep a lot of the parts that you're writing close to your vest, because you're still writing it, and you're figuring it out. She met this other writer, and she didn't tell her what she was writing on, and the other writer didn't tell her what she was working on. And then eventually, months, months go down the road, and she finally says what are you working on? Just tell me, I'm, you know, whatever it is. And the woman tells her what she's working on. And it's the exact book that Elizabeth Gilbert was writing and had stopped writing because she had other stuff going on. It was to the T every single thing, and she's like do you want my research? Because she didn't steal my idea. The idea was like, I'm jumping from you to her because I want to be born. And so I just want to highlight that, because I fully believe that you're 100% correct. If an idea comes to you, you are meant to make it happen. And also, there was a podcaster who said 98% of people will not act on any idea. So you can actually even tell people your ideas, because only 2% of them will have, people will take action on that, which is so small.

Ericka Nicole Malone 26:02  

Really, I mean, and, you know, and also, an idea can't be copyright and only the expression of the idea, and they do that because of exactly what you said. A lot of times where you're thinking that someone's took your idea, it's really, is coincidental, believe it or not. But I have had things that I'm like, okay, this is too much like what I created, because it was so new. But you know, the best thing to do is it's okay to not tell everyone your idea, too. But it is okay, like you said, if you don't tell anybody, then at least do yours. Because if you don't gotta give the seed to somebody else, somebody else will think of that idea. So it's really important to, to that's what the Bucket Wish is about, like you said, it's very immediate. I have went ahead and forward and put down payment on all of these things. I've done 12 things in this movie, and I've put a down payment on all these things. Still making payments, still making payments.

Lesley Logan 26:06  

The documentary is going to be out, y'all can watch it this fall and she's still finishing out these. 

Ericka Nicole Malone 26:57  

I'm still finishing out, because people are holding me to it. What's going on with the flute? I'm like, I'm still doing the flute. What's going on with the photography? Did you finish swimming? I mean, now you got people wanting receipts on things, you know, so it's forcing you. I have people inviting me to comedy clubs now. I mean, I'm like, okay, I said I have a single that's out now. And they're like, so we keep performing. Like, wait a minute. Hold on. Let me just put that (inaudible). It's grew my confidence because I honestly didn't think I was as multi-talented as I think I am. 

Lesley Logan 27:29  

Oh, we, I think we are all creatives. And you got, you get to, you got to test all those different craze and see what you could do. I watched your music video. It's amazing. I was like, she sings too. I remember Alvin telling me she's got a music video. I'm like, as you've done films and shows you already have filmed things before, but filming a music video is a whole different experience.

Ericka Nicole Malone 27:49  

It's a whole different dynamic. And I honestly it's dope. And it's just, it's performance driven. And there's so many singers I've talked to, and they sound like, Midler and Celine Dion, and they sound amazing. And they're like, yeah, I'm just gonna get out and just sing at home. I'm like, if you don't put this album out so the world can be blessed by your voice. I was like, kind of using myself as a way to inspire all these amazing people to get out there and get back up and sing.

Lesley Logan 28:16  

Yeah. I want to highlight one more thing that you said. You said you have to believe in your idea, and you can't do that. So it's gonna it's this little thing. It's like, not this big deal, because it is true. We have to believe in our own ideas, because we are the ones. We're gonna fight for them the most. The best. And if you do, then there are other people who will spearhead and make connections because of your excitement. You're so excited about it. People are like, oh my God, so and so has to do that thing. If you keep it to yourself, you're just like, oh, it's this, this little thing I'm working on on the side, no one's gonna take you seriously. So no one's going to tell their friend about it, because why would they make that connection or talk about a thing that you're not excited about?

Ericka Nicole Malone 28:57  

Yeah, and I honestly, I'm not arrogant or anything, but I always knew I was special, and I think that's okay. I always knew I was different. I wasn't like everyone else in my class. I think people had that. They're like, I'm just like everybody. I don't think I am just like everybody else. I think I'm different. I think everyone's special in their own way, but I think I'm definitely special my way. So I think having the confidence to believe that you have something special, and I want to also say this, because a lot of people deal with depression, you have to stop talking to negative people. If, if you don't stop talking to negative people, you might as well just tell your dreams, just be honest with your dreams, and just tell them, look, we're not going to, we're not going to do anything, because I got to talk to Trudy, and Trudy has gossip, so I got to hear gossip. So I mean, it's more important than my dreams. And also fall to the middle. Don't fall all the way down, because in that it's time, if you are dealing with depression, try to fall to the middle. And tell people fall to the middle. That means it's okay. You're gonna have bad days, but just fall only so much. Don't go all the way down where it takes you don't get out of bed for two weeks and crying for three and. Don't do that because time is our most valuable asset. It wouldn't, money, you can let somebody have every bit of money you have, but just really time and your health. You have those two things you're all right.

Lesley Logan 30:12  

Oh my gosh. Ericka Nicole Malone, you have so many gems. You have these little quoting moments that I want to like just put on Post-Its to remind myself, because we all will have some bad days, but just fall in the middle.

Ericka Nicole Malone 30:23  

Fall to the middle. That's it. Don't fall all the way down. You don't belong there. There's nothing down there. 

Lesley Logan 30:28  

Yeah. And I know you're all listening and saying, oh, but it's my mom who's a negative one. I can just not talk to my mom. You can. You can also just not tell her the dream you're working on. Dreams are precious. Tell it to the people who get excited for you and let mom talk to you about the weather.

Ericka Nicole Malone 30:42  

It's okay to have conversations that you're not giving all of yourself into. Yes, we have to check on our parents and everything, but you don't have to go so deep and tell every emotion just like, good morning, okay, have a good day. All right. Well, I'll talk to you later. Okay. Save the people for the safe space. Be careful on those. Don't tell safe dreams to unsafe people. Be very, very careful. You are your most valued treasure you have. Protect yourself. Protect your heart. 

Lesley Logan 31:12  

Yeah, okay, we are gonna take a brief break, and we're going to come back and find out where people can find you, follow you, watch The Bucket Wish, and your Be It Action Items. 

Lesley Logan 31:21  

All right, Ericka Nicole Malone, where can people follow what you're working on, watch your stuff, where can we send them?

Ericka Nicole Malone 31:28  

Please follow me in all my grandmother's wisdom, @ErickaNicoleMalone on Instagram and @ErickaNicoleMalone on Facebook, @ErickaNicoleMalone on TikTok, ErickaNicoleMalone on Twitter. You can follow me @ErickaNicoleMalone, that's E-R-I-C-K-A Nicole Malone.

Lesley Logan 31:46  

I love it. We'll have all those links in the show notes. You can follow her on your favorite social platform. You can watch The Bucket Wish this fall, yes? 

Ericka Nicole Malone 31:54  

Yes. 

Lesley Logan 31:55  

Awesome.

Ericka Nicole Malone 31:55  

I'm very excited. 

Lesley Logan 31:56  

And do you know which platform it's on yet? 

Ericka Nicole Malone 31:57  

I do not know yet, but it's going to be starting out in film festivals around the world. 

Lesley Logan 32:01  

Perfect. You guys. Go see a film festival. They look so fun, like.

Ericka Nicole Malone 32:05  

They are amazing. They are blessings. Blessings to creatives. Thank you. Thank you, Film Festival. 

Lesley Logan 32:10  

Go see a film festival. Put that on your Bucket Wish. 

Ericka Nicole Malone 32:13  

That's right. 

Lesley Logan 32:13  

Well, so okay, we always like to tell the listeners, because you gave us so many gems. But just in case they're like the overachiever, perfectionist, they need the action item, bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps they can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us?

Ericka Nicole Malone 32:26  

Number one, I'm gonna say, be kind to yourself. Start with that. Stop beating yourself up. You are a good person, and you are trying, and you woke up this morning. So start with that. Make clear goals for your life, and don't give up. Don't give up. You do those three things and you'll be on your way. 

Lesley Logan 32:47  

Yeah, yeah. And then they should make a Bucket Wish. 

Ericka Nicole Malone 32:50  

Make a bucket wish. Make a bucket wish today. 

Lesley Logan 32:53  

And tag Ericka Nicole Malone in when you're doing your Bucket Wish, so she can celebrate you. We can celebrate you. Tag the Be It Pod. You guys, share this with a friend who needs it. Share it with a friend who's been saying they want to do something and like, oh, I wish I'm gonna do that thing. Get this to them, because maybe this is a reminder that they need, that they can go try new things, and that's where their confidence is gonna come from. And leave us a review. Of course, we always live off of those. That is currency for us, just so you know. So we'd love that. Share this with a friend or leave a review, or do both, because that would be really helpful, and until next time, Be It Till You See It. 

Lesley Logan 33:26  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 34:08  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 34:13  

It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.

Brad Crowell 34:18  

Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan 34:25  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 34:28  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

In this FYF episode, Lesley shares uplifting wins from the Be It community, including Natalia’s big break in publishing and Bianca’s successful corporate retreat. Lesley reflects on her own win—being fully prepared for her upcoming LA trip and fitness photo shoot. Tune in for a reminder to acknowledge progress, embrace growth, and celebrate each step forward.

If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at [email protected].

And as always, if you’re enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.

In this episode you will learn about:

• Securing new clients, national media coverage, and a book contract.
• Hosting a successful corporate retreat that impacted a client’s body awareness.
• Feeling prepared for the LA trip and photo shoot, thanks to intentional planning.

Episode References/Links:

• Flashcards Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlist

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• Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!
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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

It's Fuck Yeah Friday.

Brad Crowell 0:01  

Fuck yeah.

Lesley Logan 0:02  

Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:46  

Hi, Be It babe. Hello, happy FYF. If you're new to the Be It pod, this is a quickie episode where we share wins that you sent in. We share a win of mine. We can see what qualifies as a win, and then we have a little mantra, and move on with our days. Tuesdays are interviews, Thursdays are recaps, and today is a Fuck Yeah Friday. Before I get into the wins, just highlighting that I'm recording these well in advance of the present, so they may not sound as topical as what might be going on. And that is okay, because we need a little win in our life, no matter what is going on, whether it's good or not, or whatever you deem it to be. 

Lesley Logan 1:23  

So here we go. The first one up is Natalia. Natalia wrote, finally making some time to be here in Slack and enjoy being part of this wonderful community. I got some new in-person clients, and one who wants to do online privates with me. My TV appearances last week went super good, and I got a call from a National Women's Magazine. They want to interview me as a Pilates expert, so I'm going to be featured in the magazine. I had my terms and conditions checked and adjusted by a lawyer, finally, and I got my book contract. I still can't believe I'm writing my own book. Oh my gosh, Natalia, and congratulations, because at the time this is coming out, you've written your book. So way to go. And I love all these little wins. You're celebrating so many different little things, and sometimes we just celebrate just getting back into the habit of something as a win, you know, and not going so behind. I'm really tired of hearing people to speed up on themselves, and because all you're doing is delaying the ability for you to do the thing that you want to do. Instead, celebrate what you did, what you are doing. Focus on that, because that is how you move things forward. You can't change the past. 

Lesley Logan 2:19  

Our next win is from Bianca. She's an agency member, and she wrote, my corporate event retreat went well this past weekend, and one of the guys in the group said, I can finally feel my spine after the last class. My corporate clients are now interested in becoming a private client and wants to get back to practicing Pilates. Well, Bianca, way to be amazing. Way to be so great that you gave this person the feeling of their spine back. I mean, that is impressive, my dear. And isn't that so cool we get to do and change people's lives? So I just absolutely love reading that and hearing that and celebrating that with you. 

Lesley Logan 2:51  

All right, my win. So here's the deal, I am back. So I got back from my trip with my mom and sister, only to be 48 hours from when this drops to leaving for LA for a week. And to be honest, I actually haven't spent a week in LA since we moved. You know, I've spent a couple of days here, one day here, maybe three days, but never, I don't think I've ever spent seven days. And that's what I'm doing. And so what I wanted to celebrate is that I'm actually so ready for that trip. Everything is planned out. The schedule is there. There's no rushing around trying to get things ready. I am ready for this trip. My schedule is going to allow me to take care of my clients, take care of my members, and get ready for this photo shoot that will be next weekend. And by ready, I mean, that's a fitness photo shoot, so it's like exercises. It's for the sixth deck. And so it's less about appearance and more about stamina and strength. But I just want to say I'm ready and that's a win. That is a win. And so I just want to share that being ready can be a win, just like doing all the things to get yourself set up for something. You know, we tend to focus on all the things that didn't go the way we expected. But actually, even in all of that, the fact that bags are packed, outfits are ready, equipment is ready to go in the van when Brad drives, we are ready for this is a testament to not rushing around and trying to fit in too much, too fast, and being present and celebrating wins when we've had them. You know, it's not that everything is great all the time. It's fucking not. There's a lot of crap going on. There are days when you own your own business where they start off with shit hitting the fan, and then you pull on that thread and it just unravels the entire sweater. And then you're like, well, this is not what I fucking had planned today, but to even have that and on top of it, stick to what is the goal here? What are we trying to do? That I could go on this week long stint in LA and continue to ready myself for the shoot? That's a win. It's super, I'm super excited. I'm so grateful for my team. I'm so grateful for the desire of so many of you to have this deck. I can feel your energy around it which makes me excited to go and shoot it in the first place. 

Lesley Logan 5:03  

All right, let's get you that mantra so you can get on with your fabulous weekend. And the mantra is I welcome the wisdom that comes with growing older. I welcome the wisdom that comes with growing older. I welcome the wisdom that comes to growing older. Are you welcoming that wisdom? I hope so. Don't fight it. You're, so much good stuff coming as we go from day to day, right? You're learning from all the things you experienced. 

Lesley Logan 5:28  

Thank you so much for listening. Thank you for sending your wins. And we want more. So send them on in so we can celebrate you, because you will hear them probably on a day that you're like, nothing's going, right? So send them into the Be It Pod, and until next time, Be It Till You See It. 

Lesley Logan 5:42  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 6:25  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 6:30  

It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.

Brad Crowell 6:34  

Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan 6:40  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 6:45  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

Lesley and Brad recap inspiring conversation with boudoir photographer Shayla Pelton, exploring how her unique approach to photography encourages individuals to reclaim their confidence and embrace their true selves. Together, they discuss the powerful role self-care and energy work play in self-empowerment—and why a boudoir photoshoot can be an empowering gift you give to yourself.

If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at [email protected].

And as always, if you’re enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.

In this episode you will learn about:

• The impact of boudoir photography on self-confidence and self-acceptance.
• The therapeutic benefits of seeing oneself through a professional lens.
• How small self-care habits can lead to improved mental well-being.
• The importance of releasing generational trauma and cultivating personal growth.
• Highlights of the upcoming OPC tour and its mission to foster community within the Pilates world.

Episode References/Links:

• Cambodia February 2025 Retreat - https://crowsnestretreats.com
• Flashcards Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlist
• Pilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/accelerator
• OPC Winter Tour - https://opc.me/tour
• Ep. 5 Amy Ledin - https://beitpod.com/ep5
• Ep. 421 Dr. Louise Swartswalter - https://beitpod.com/421
• Ep. 175 Keri Ford - https://beitpod.com/ep175
• Ep. 388 Lauren Zoeller - https://beitpod.com/ep388
• Ep. 298 Michael Unbroken - https://beitpod.com/ep298

If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.

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Be It Till You See It Podcast Survey

Be a part of Lesley’s Pilates Mentorship

FREE Ditching Busy Webinar

Resources:

• Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!
• Lesley Logan website
• Be It Till You See It Podcast
• Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan
• Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube
• Profitable Pilates

Follow Us on Social Media:

• Instagram
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• Facebook
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• The OPC YouTube Channel

Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

I'm a big fan. And now I think everyone should go do a boudoir photoshoot. I think I should do one. 

Brad Crowell 0:05  

I'm in. 

Lesley Logan 0:06  

I know you are. 

Brad Crowell 0:08  

Sign me up.

Lesley Logan 0:10  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:51  

Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to. What are we doing? 

Brad Crowell 0:57  

We're digging into the boldly confident convo that Lesley have with Shayla Pelton in her last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that, go back and listen to it now or don't, but we think you should, because it's a great episode. 

Lesley Logan 1:10  

She's so fun. 

Brad Crowell 1:11  

She's great. 

Lesley Logan 1:12  

She's so sweet. I don't know why all of a sudden I forgot the script. So, thanks, Brad, thanks for having my. 

Brad Crowell 1:17  

Oh, I got you. 

Lesley Logan 1:18  

Okay, guys, Today is November 14th 2024 and it's Loosen Up Lighten Up Day, aka LULU day. 

Brad Crowell 1:24  

LULU. 

Lesley Logan 1:24  

And I chose this because we're recording this before the election. We are after the election, and we have no idea what shenanigans are happening around in some shitty places, so we are loosening it up and lightening up, just in case. 

Brad Crowell 1:35  

We're LULUing. 

Lesley Logan 1:36  

If you've been looking for a break from all of your stress and troubles, Loosen Up Lighten Up (LULU) on November 14 is perfect for you. This day presents an opportunity for you to take a break from your usual busy schedule and all the stressful thoughts and instead focus on just being happy and relaxed and having fun.

Brad Crowell 1:36  

I mean, I think this is very appropriate, because I have a feeling a lot of shenanigans are happening right now. 

Lesley Logan 1:59  

I know. LULU day is our cure for burnouts and breakdowns. I just love that line. It's like a, it's like a medication. LULU is your cure for burnouts and breakdowns. 

Brad Crowell 2:11  

I'm LULUing. 

Lesley Logan 2:12  

You guys, we don't, we don't know, but we have a feeling that we all need a LULU today. And you know, so at any rate.

Brad Crowell 2:19  

The only thing I can say that makes me confidently LULU is that one of the two candidates raised a billion dollars in the last quarter and has money to fight legal battles. Because that's the shenanigans that are probably happening right now. 

Lesley Logan 2:32  

No one, no one. Here's the thing. Everyone's like, what is your hobby? And I, we never tell them. And clearly what it is is we are deeply involved. We are ridiculously involved. And if you didn't know that, Brad even more so because he listens to world podcasts that I just don't have the time to take in all of that. But we know the names of too many people in too many places, and the district and the court numbers. We know all the different court levels, district nine, we know too fucking much. And so we are trying to LULU around here. 

Brad Crowell 3:01  

We're LULUing. 

Lesley Logan 3:01  

Yeah. Anyways, our Cambodia retreat we just got back from we were so relaxed. The relaxation is gone, but our lives are changed forever in the best way. And I can tell you, having the memories of Cambodia to reflect on and these weird times is fucking great. It's so great. It's amazing. I have to look back and go, wow, that was fabulous just to be on the other side of the world and not actually be thinking about what is going on back home. It's a way to LULU all the time. It's so wonderful. It's so fabulous. And so we want you to come with us, because you will LULU as well, and you will get to see amazing temples, and we'll do breath work, and we'll have great breakfast and great lunch and great dinner. And then we (inaudible). We find ourselves at a lovely bar sometimes together. We do nightly massages. One night there was 14 of us getting a massage together. So, you know, and not, like, with, like, not in the same room, (inaudible) but yeah. So you should be, you should come, crowsnestretreats.com is where you're gonna get your tickets. 

Brad Crowell 4:04  

Yeah, crowsnestretreats.com. 

Lesley Logan 4:05  

Join us for February. Don't go I'll go next time. Oh, this, you will always have an excuse not to go. I promise you, you'll be so happy you went, and you will change your life. 

Brad Crowell 4:13  

It's true. 

Lesley Logan 4:14  

And now I'm even closer to my little week-long excursion living in LA to get ready and do the accessories photo shoot. The Accessories Deck is our sixth deck in all of the flashcards. If this is your first time listening, you probably have no idea what our flashcards are. We have Pilates flashcards and you, too, can get some. 

Brad Crowell 4:32  

And you, too. 

Lesley Logan 4:33  

The Accessories Deck is the sixth deck in the series. And then from here, Brad gets to design the collector's box. So for those of you who thought you weren't gonna get a discount when you bought all six, I promise you, you're not. I promise you, Brad is going to figure out a Harry Potter like, collector's box. 

Brad Crowell 4:49  

Yeah. The flashcards come with a magic wand. 

Lesley Logan 4:52  

I don't like to be involved in the design of this box. I just would like to say, because I do think it should have a way to, like, pull the card out.

Brad Crowell 5:00  

Oh no. I think it's gonna, like be a glass display case.

Lesley Logan 5:03  

But it needs to, so you you will see all the cards, all the boxes, beautifully, but then there needs to be a way for you to have a card of the day, or like this week's exercise. There needs to be a way. 

Brad Crowell 5:14  

To put one card, feature a card? 

Lesley Logan 5:16  

Feature a card. I mean, that could be cool. And then what would also be cool is a little hidden hook. So if someone is doing those little drop pouches, they could hook that on and it could, like, they (inaudible) with their workout on it. 

Brad Crowell 5:27  

Yeah, we're asking a lot of our display case here. We'll see.

Lesley Logan 5:30  

This is, we're in the design phase. We're in the design phase. 

Brad Crowell 5:34  

LED lights inside. 

Lesley Logan 5:36  

All the different colors?

Brad Crowell 5:37  

Maybe. We'll see what we can figure out.

Lesley Logan 5:39  

All the OPC colors? 

Brad Crowell 5:40  

I don't know. I don't know. We'll figure it out. 

Lesley Logan 5:42  

What if it's just, what if it's a disco ball and it is like.

Brad Crowell 5:47  

All right, well, if you have ideas, we'd love to hear them.

Lesley Logan 5:51  

Is there a site for, like, display cases? We got to figure this out. Anyways, we will work on that. After the sixth deck is done, I'm doing the photoshoot, go to flashcard waitlist opc.me/flashcardwaitlist and that will get you on the presale waitlist, the secret waitlist, and only the people on the waitlist get the presale invite. That's how it goes. 

Brad Crowell 6:07  

That's true. 

Lesley Logan 6:08  

And our goal is to get the presale out sooner so we beat the hurricane season. Okay, Brad, take it away. 

Brad Crowell 6:14  

Okay, cool. So I want you, if you are a Pilates business owner, what (inaudible) 

Lesley Logan 6:19  

That's the way the bear says only you. 

Brad Crowell 6:21  

I want only you, stand up and serve your country.

Lesley Logan 6:26  

That was, yeah, very much so.

Brad Crowell 6:28  

If you are, if you have a Pilates business, if you take clients at all, big, small, medium, long time, short time, not yet time but know you're going to take clients in the future, I want you to come join me for a free webinar called the Pilates Studio Growth Accelerator, where Lesley and I have boiled down three of the the biggest things that we've learned in how do you actually move the needle with your income? Okay? So if you're feeling stuck at all with like, I've been at the same income level, I thought I was going to be able to make more money, or I thought I was going to be able to have the life that I always wanted when I worked for myself. We can get you unstuck. Come join me for this free webinar. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O, dot biz slash accelerator, and come check it out. We're gonna be, we're gonna be hanging out. It's only an hour long, and I'll get you a In-N-Out before your class.

Lesley Logan 7:22  

There's only a couple opportunities before you go on winter tour. 

Brad Crowell 7:26  

That's very true. 

Lesley Logan 7:27  

So take advantage of that while it's happening, because you don't want to wait until the new year and then start the new year late, guys. So opc.me/tour, is where you get your tickets. But we're going to 23 cities. We kick off on December 6th. And we start in Sedona, then Oklahoma City, then we go to Memphis, and then to Huntsville, and then we go to Greensboro. 

Brad Crowell 7:51  

Atlanta and then Greensboro. 

Lesley Logan 7:52  

Oh Atlanta, Greensboro, DC. 

Brad Crowell 7:55  

Hershey, Pennsylvania. 

Lesley Logan 7:56  

Virginia Beach.

Brad Crowell 7:58  

I think that's on the way south. 

Lesley Logan 7:59  

Oh, it's on the way South? 

Brad Crowell 8:00  

Yeah, because I think it's too close to DC, so I think we go Virginia Beach on the way down. 

Lesley Logan 8:04  

Okay, so then it's Hershey, then it's Portland, Maine, then it is Boston, Cape Cod, Providence, Greenwich, then it's Virginia Beach, then it's Charleston, South Miami, Tampa, Pensacola, New Orleans, Austin, Dallas, Lubbock, Phoenix. I don't think we skipped any this time. 

Brad Crowell 8:28  

I think we got them all. 

Lesley Logan 8:29  

I did Oklahoma City, yeah, okay, we're great. 23 cities, over 40 events. So many are sold out. 

Brad Crowell 8:34  

Almost 50 events, yeah, they're literally already selling all out, y'all. So if you are just hearing about this now, go to opc.me/tour and jump on this, because. 

Lesley Logan 8:49  

Pilates lovers of all levels. If you're brand new and you've just been Pi Curious, come, come, come. Come join us. 

Brad Crowell 8:55  

Well, I'm just excited. I can't believe how. 

Lesley Logan 8:58  

How excited everyone is. 

Brad Crowell 8:59  

How excited, yeah, the vibes are strong, okay? So come, don't sit on this, because there might not be anywhere left.

Lesley Logan 9:06  

And also, if you're like, oh, I work at this studio and you're having other studio, get your ass over there. It's called community, okay? 

Brad Crowell 9:11  

It's called community, y'all. Come across the road. (inaudible)

Lesley Logan 9:14  

Yeah. Do it because here's the deal, no one's gonna be like, oh, my God, that's like, working in that studio. They're gonna be focused on I'm there. Okay?

Brad Crowell 9:24  

Yeah. Well, it is true. 

Lesley Logan 9:25  

They're actually focused on I'm there and we're gonna have fun. And I'm tired of people feeling like, oh, I can't do that. They teach like this. I can't, I don't teach like that. It. 

Brad Crowell 9:34  

Nobody gives a shit. 

Lesley Logan 9:35  

No one does because it's called community and I am on a mission to make sure Pilates lovers meet each other all over the place, and we have so much fun, and it's quite like reunions, and you'll see people you haven't seen in a long time. (inaudible) So come, come, come, bring your friends. All right, that's opc.me/tour to get your ticket. We do have an audience question. 

Brad Crowell 9:53  

We do. 

Lesley Logan 9:54  

It is in your text messages, Brad.

Brad Crowell 9:56  

It is, it is. The question is actually from @SL4081, how is the MOTR Core Balanced Body equipment for Pilates?

Lesley Logan 10:09  

I think it's like the MOTR piece of equipment for Pilates. I think that's what they're asking.

Brad Crowell 10:13  

For Pilates. How is it for Pilates?

Lesley Logan 10:16  

Like, how is it used for Pilates, maybe?

Brad Crowell 10:19  

(inaudible) I feel like I'm missing a piece. 

Lesley Logan 10:20  

Well, you know. 

Brad Crowell 10:21  

How is it for Pilates? How does it work for Pilates?

Lesley Logan 10:24  

I mean, they clearly took a lot of time taking. 

Brad Crowell 10:25  

How is it official for Pilates? 

Lesley Logan 10:26  

They took a lot of time on that YouTube name Brad, the details for this. Okay, so here's the deal. I need to be really honest with you guys. I've been on a MOTR. I am not certified in a MOTR. I am not trained to teach a MOTR, and I don't. So I can't rave about it the way that my friends who are trained on the MOTR rave about it. So I'm gonna give a shout out to SuperKate, Erika Quest, I think even teeny_pilates on Instagram there's one more. Oh my gosh, sweet girl who isn't the OC anyways, so there are tons of people who are truly trained in teaching on the MOTR, and that is who I would really pose this question to. I am a classical Pilates teacher, which means I kind of just play on my classical equipment, and I know a lot about that. What I will say about the MOTR that's really cool is you can do a lot of movements that are in Pilates using the MOTR and it doesn't take up a lot of space. You could not use the MOTR on OPC to take a reformer class. You can't do that. Or you can't do that for a Pilates Anytime class, you can't. 

Brad Crowell 11:27  

Well, it's not a reformer. 

Lesley Logan 11:28  

No, but people do reformer moves on it, just like they do mat moves on it, just like they do bar moves on it. So there's a lot of similarities there. But if you buy a MOTR, you need to take MOTR classes. That's what you just have to do. So if you want a MOTR, my discount works for that MOTR. 

Brad Crowell 11:43  

It does. 

Lesley Logan 11:44  

And then you can reach out to me and I'll connect you with one of those few girls that I just mentioned, and they will teach you. 

Brad Crowell 11:49  

I love that. 

Lesley Logan 11:49  

So I'm so sorry. Clearly, I don't know all the answers, but if you have a question, you want me to take a stab at it, or Brad to take a stab at then you want to send in your questions. You apparently can call us, we say the number somewhere in the credits. So listen to that, or just send it to me on Instagram or YouTube. We get them there, and then we'll answer your questions here.

Brad Crowell 12:08  

Yeah, you can text us at 310-905-5534. Stick around we'll be right back. 

Brad Crowell 12:13  

Okay, let's talk about Shayla Pelton. Shayla is a passionate boudoir photographer based in Arizona, dedicated to helping individuals and couples cultivate self love and elevate their mindsets. Inspired by her own experiences and the transformative power of photography, she believes that everyone, regardless of age, body changes or life circumstances, is beautiful and deserving of celebrating their unique selves. We had the pleasure of meeting Shayla in person at James Patrick's event, the last event that he hosted for that series. I can't remember what it was called. 

Lesley Logan 12:49  

You guys had to listen to that episode, but he is such a fascinating man. We are at the event. It's a last day. Everyone's having the best time, and he's like, we're never doing this again. And I was like, oh god, okay, that's one way to end a run, but we did get to meet her in person. And she is such a she's like a little firefly, but I mean that in the best way, she lights up wherever she's at, and she's really excited. I just really loved we had a great time talking with her. And I was like, I have to, I want to have her on the Be It Pod. And I told her you have to pitch yourself. Because that was what's it about. That was what the event was about. So I couldn't just invite her on, she has to pitch herself, and she wrote me a great pitch. And what I loved about this.

Brad Crowell 13:29  

Well, she came from a career in retail, and really wanted to work for herself, and has been a photographer, and was always passionate about it. And we got super fired up for her, because we love entrepreneurialism, and we absolutely believe that you can make money working for yourself, and there's no reason that you can't make money being a photographer, as inspired by James, he does the same thing. And so it was really cool to meet her and be able to encourage her. And then also, well, basically, we were there helping people cultivate their pitches and to figure things out. So it was great to challenge her a little bit, and then she pitched us, and we said, this is really awesome. Great job. 

Lesley Logan 13:32  

Well, we haven't had a boudoir photographer on the show. We've we have brought on Dr. Celeste Holbrook, and we've brought on Nikole Mitchell, and we also just had Dr. Jordin Wiggins, who is a pleasure coach as well. And so we've had people on who talk about, oh and Kelli Adame like pleasure and receiving and all these things. But if you don't feel sexy, like we have a big jump, that's a hard thing. And so I really like what Shayla does, because the boudoir photography used to just be like the gift you gave your future husband, like some weird gift to the wedding, but it can really be for you, and that's what we got to talk about.

Brad Crowell 14:32  

I think that's my biggest takeaway, is that boudoir photography isn't necessarily about sex. 

Lesley Logan 14:50  

No, I think it's actually about confidence and seeing yourself in the most beautiful way that you exist in and no matter your body type or scars you have. I follow her on Instagram, and I see the different women she photographs, and they're fucking all stunning. I'm like, I want to look like that. Like it's just so fun, because the camera catches you at this, she's so good at catching your true light, and you're showing things, and it's just great. And then you get to see yourself through that lens. I was talking to my client, (inaudible), today, and she's like, I don't see myself every day, so I don't think anything has changed. I think you should take a picture. I don't like to take a picture of myself. Okay, well, I'm looking at you and you have changed. So either I'm going to be the person who tells you that you have to believe me, or you take a picture so that, because we see ourselves every single day, we don't realize the changes that are happening. And so I really love it. 

Lesley Logan 15:42  

Anyways, boudoir photography is about reclaiming your sexuality. Everything about us is different. Everything about us is worthy of love. And so even though it's not about sex, we shouldn't be ashamed of the sexuality that we have, because it's part of who we are, and it's part of that charisma and that charm, and also, ladies, it's fucking awesome and okay to have sexuality and sexual desires and enjoy pleasures and that's why I keep bringing these women on and telling you to do that, because the burnouts and breakdowns you're having, they're having, I bet you maybe a little pleasure and a little enjoyment. But if you don't think that you are sexy or you're not confident in that way, I think a boudoir photoshoot could be a really great gift to yourself. And if you hate it, throw it away. You won't. You just won't. You'll just really think they're cool.

Brad Crowell 16:27  

Yeah. And I think that that was an interesting thing, where she talked about, you know, I think the questions you asked her were really helpful for people who are, like, boudoir curious, where it's like, I'm not ready for that, or what is it going to be like? Or, I don't know, but what other questions in that way. But what was really great is that the preconceptions that people have about boudoir photography is that you have to be sexy, you have to be hot, you have to be all the things. And Shayla talked about how that is not reality. That is actually not at all what it's about. You don't have to show up performing for the camera. It's actually when you get to know her and the two of you have conversations, she's gonna work with you to bring that element out of you. And no matter what you're wearing or not wearing, or how ready you feel, she's gonna help you get to that place. And she said, I love that she intentionally doesn't doctor up the images all over the place, because she's going to capture the beauty inside of the person that she's photographing, and doesn't have to add all this extra stuff to it. And I just thought that was really cool. 

Lesley Logan 17:40  

Yeah, I mean, I'm a big fan, and now I think everyone should go do a boudoir photoshoot. I think I should do one.

Brad Crowell 17:47  

I'm in. 

Lesley Logan 17:48  

I know you are. 

Brad Crowell 17:51  

Sign me up. Maybe I should do one. 

Lesley Logan 17:53  

Okay. 

Brad Crowell 17:54  

I'd be down. 

Lesley Logan 17:59  

Okay, let's, we'll figure this out. We'll work on it. It'll be a 20 20, what's next year? 2025. We'll put it on the list. 

Brad Crowell 18:05  

Well, she said on embracing your true self, we never see ourselves in that beautiful vulnerability, because we always have our shields up, right? Only people that we are most intimate with ever see us in those moments. And she explained that when we look at ourselves in the mirror, we don't feel that sexy or that fun or that fire, but we all have it. We all have it. We just don't always let ourselves see it.

Lesley Logan 18:07  

You're so busy thinking about I got these 17 things to do today. I got these many things to do today, and then your partner comes in and they're like, all they're seeing you all sexy, and you're like, oh my God, my brain is in the wrong journey. But that's the thing.

Brad Crowell 18:16  

And having a photo like this is an incredible way to remind yourself. 

Lesley Logan 18:45  

That you are. 

Brad Crowell 18:46  

That you have it, right, and it's a moment, but I can't remember who we were talking to, who said they write down their wins on a note card, and when they're feeling down, they pull out the note card. Was that all the way back to Amy Ledin? I think it was.

Lesley Logan 19:02  

My mom's favorite episode, she, and in the two and a half years I've been doing this podcast, guys, my mom only likes episode five. 

Brad Crowell 19:10  

Now that is not true. Not true. 

Lesley Logan 19:12  

She still quotes it. 

Brad Crowell 19:13  

She still quotes it, but she likes more than episode five. But seriously, this is like that where if you're struggling with confidence, you can pull out this photo, and even if it's only for you, you still have this, this moment where you're like, I am a rock star, and I love that. I think that is, I think that's necessary. 

Lesley Logan 19:33  

Yeah, I agree. I agree. 

Brad Crowell 19:34  

Yeah. All right, stick around. We'll be right back. 

Brad Crowell 19:37  

All right. Finally, let's talk about those, Be It Action Items. Say it with me. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Shayla Pelton? 

Lesley Logan 19:49  

I think you know what I want. 

Brad Crowell 19:50  

Tell me. 

Lesley Logan 19:50  

I want our listeners to record themselves saying that and then we can use their recording. 

Brad Crowell 19:57  

That'd be fun. 

Lesley Logan 19:57  

Just like Keith Olbermann has his friends introduce like and now here's Keith. We can have different listeners, yeah, we can have different listeners send in themselves saying, what bold executable, intrinsic or targeted steps?

Brad Crowell 20:11  

Okay, I love this, and I really love this, y'all. Call our number and leave us a voicemail of you saying, "What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo?" And we will take those clips and we'll start to put them into the show. 

Lesley Logan 20:29  

I think that'd be so fun. And if that's too long, you could also record yourself saying, "Until next time, Be It Till You See It."

Brad Crowell 20:36  

Yeah, that too. That too. So 310-905-5534. Hit us up. Okay.

Lesley Logan 20:42  

(inaudible) was like, what's going on? Why are people emailing us this? 

Brad Crowell 20:47  

No, just call it. We won't answer. Just leave a voicemail, and then we'll get the voicemail. 

Lesley Logan 20:51  

It's probably important to know we'll never answer. 

Brad Crowell 20:53  

Well, that number is intentional that we're, I'm not picking that number up, but it's there for people to leave a voicemail. 

Lesley Logan 20:59  

You could answer it. We just don't, because it's for voicemails. 

Brad Crowell 21:02  

Yeah, my phone fucking rings. I don't answer it. 

Lesley Logan 21:04  

(inaudible) way too much. Okay, well, just so we, call a different number if you want us to answer, but leave a message.

Brad Crowell 21:09  

Okay, so she said, book yourself a boudoir session. That is the Be It Action Item that you can take. You can do this. All you gotta do is the first step, which is book that session, whether that's with her, with Shayla, or with someone else. Do it for you. She has people fly into Phoenix to work with her,by the way.

Lesley Logan 21:27  

We definitely have amazing recommendations for where to stay in that area, too, so. 

Brad Crowell 21:31  

We do. There's also an incredible botanical gardens that you should see while you're in town. Anyway, she said you should book this for yourself, because you are worthy. You're worthy today. You're worthy right now. 

Lesley Logan 21:43  

You don't have to send us the picture, but you do have to tell us now if you do this. 

Brad Crowell 21:46  

Yeah, yeah. Also, she said, prioritize yourself by taking small moments every single day just for you. And she had personal experience with this where she said, when I started to work my yoga practice in for myself in the morning, I actually became an incredibly better person, and I performed better at work, and it was just better all around and she's talked about getting her nails done and being intentional about taking care of herself. So prioritizing yourself, and this is something that I'm sure you've heard Lesley talk about, self-care isn't selfish care. And when you prioritize yourself, you are going to show up better in every other aspect of your life, every other element of your life, for the people that you are intentionally taking care of or serving or working with, or your clients or your family or friends, whatever it is, when you prioritize yourself, you are going to be a better you.

Lesley Logan 22:39  

Yep, I love it. I'm in on that. She also said, put time into energy work and releasing generational trauma and healing in your own family. And I think this is really important, because we can try to, like, I just have therapy, but we don't always release the actual energy of that. And so I'm gonna highlight episode 421, with Dr. Louise Swartswalter, who will release like she's not gonna release my great grandfather shit. And you know what? I think I worry less. So that's really great. And I don't remember Lauren Zoeller's most recent episode, but Lauren Zoeller does somatic releasing work, and that is a great way to get rid of some of that trauma through energy work. We had Keri Ford, who's a somatics coach, who did that. 

Brad Crowell 23:18  

Lauren is episode 388. Keri Ford, 175.

Lesley Logan 23:24  

Yeah, yeah. So anyways, I'm sure we've had other people, but those ones I remember. So do this because.

Brad Crowell 23:31  

We have Michael Unbroken.

Lesley Logan 23:32  

Oh. Don't tell him I didn't. Michael's episodes are really, he's working with mostly men now, though. So that (inaudible) that's kind of why there's lots. 

Brad Crowell 23:41  

He's episode 298. 

Lesley Logan 23:43  

No, I think we're good. I think that's plenty. We don't need to overwhelm them with trauma. They just need to do it. So here's the thing, if you don't, it doesn't, you can't shove this in like a closet and then never look at it again. It's gonna rear its ugly head. So do the work. 

Brad Crowell 23:57  

Do the work.

Lesley Logan 23:58  

Because it makes a huge difference. And especially if you're a parent, it affects who you are for your kids to see, and it really does make big changes, so. You guys, I'm Lesley Logan.

Brad Crowell 24:07  

And I'm Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 24:08  

Thank you so much for being here. Shayla, thank you for being amazing. I can't wait to hear how many people get some boudoir shoots. I really am excited. I think everyone needs a photoshoot. And I think a lot of people don't have pictures of themselves that they like because they don't have a professional take pictures of them. Your friends and family are never gonna take the most amazing picture, like Monica Linda would or Shayla would. You know, you just need a good photographer. I love all the pictures that professionals took of me. I mean, Brad's great too, because he's also a professional but I like theirs too. So go do it. It'll change your life. It'll help you Be It Till You See It. 

Brad Crowell 24:08  

Bye for now. 

Lesley Logan 24:41  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 25:24  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 25:29  

It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.

Brad Crowell 25:33  

Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan 25:40  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 25:43  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

Lesley Logan and boudoir photographer Shayla Pelton explored how boudoir can be a transformative experience, allowing clients to celebrate their unique beauty and worth. Shayla shared her journey into photography and the power of capturing authentic self-love. Tune in to discover how this practice can inspire confidence and self-acceptance.

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In this episode you will learn about:

• Why boudoir photography is about celebrating self-love and confidence.
• How Shayla’s personal journey inspired her to help others feel beautiful.
• Misconceptions about boudoir and its potential to break through insecurities.
• Tips for prioritizing self-care and balancing family and career.
• The empowering experience boudoir can bring for women of all backgrounds.

Episode References/Links:

• Sheyla Pelton Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/shaylapeltonphotography
• Sheyla Pelton Website - https://www.boudoirbypelton.photography

Guest Bio:

Shayla Pelton is a full-time portrait photographer based in Phoenix, Arizona, specializing in boudoir photography. Her journey in the field has led to a complete transformation, both personally and professionally, as she’s dedicated herself to helping clients embrace self-love and confidence. Passionate about capturing people in their most authentic light, Shayla has been featured on platforms like Beyond the Image podcast, where she shared insights into building a fulfilling career through her empowering approach to boudoir photography. Her work has earned her a loyal client base and recognition for her unique ability to make people feel celebrated and seen.

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Episode Transcript:

Shayla Pelton 0:00  

You are worthy now, in this very moment. And we all deserve to be memorialized in that, in every single season of our lives. And I think it is so important to acknowledge the love that you have for yourself now instead of waiting until you look like some other person's idea of beauty because really at the end of the day we don't need to change a thing.

Lesley Logan 0:23  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  

Lesley Logan 1:02  

All right, ladies, how are you doing? Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast. I have a very fun topic for us today. Shayla Pelton is our guest. She's a boudoir photographer, and she is cool, and I just love her energy, and I love her enthusiasm, and I have to be honest, like I did a fedora shoot many, many, many, many, many, many moons ago, just for my friend who wanted to do it as a photographer and never thought about it again, and the way she talks about it, and the way she explores and the way she expresses what it's for. And every time I see pictures on her feed, I'm like, you know, I think I want to do that because kind of scares you a little bit doesn't it and also in a good way. And so we're going to talk about self love, worthiness, being a mom, trying to make a side hustle become a full hustle, and all of that stuff. So here is Shayla Pelton. 

Lesley Logan 1:52  

All right, Be It babe, this is going to be fun. I got to meet this person when Brad and I were down in Arizona, and we were doing a really fun talk that I'm pretty sure they expected us to do a whole different thing on the same topic. But at any rate, Brad and I got to talk to our guest today, Shayla Pelton, and she's like, a boudoir photographer. Then she went into like, started telling me her whole story, which she's going to tell you in a second. And I was just, oh my God, we have to have her on the Be It pod, because what you do could absolutely help people step into their be it till they see it. So Shayla, will you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at?

Shayla Pelton 2:27  

Yes, hello. Well, thanks for having me. I am Shayla Pelton. I am a boudoir photographer in Phoenix, Arizona, and my passion is to help everybody love themselves better. So I do share my story. I do work with men, women, couples. I really even just like talking about self love and actual sex with viewers online. I just want everybody to mutually, like, elevate and be able to raise our mindsets and our self love. 

Lesley Logan 2:56  

Yeah, so in case people think that boudoir is like the glamor shot that they did at the mall, or it's something that you only give to your husband on the wedding day. Can you tell us a little bit about what you really feel boudoir is? Because I don't know. I guess I felt like it's something you did for other people, but you just said it, it's like for self love. So let's get into what is boudoir and how is it self love? 

Shayla Pelton 3:20  

Yeah, well, and also, I would even love to preface that with the very first time I ever did a boudoir session for myself was a wedding gift for my husband. And in my mind, that's all it was, right? And then I had couple more kids, and in my mind, I was like, I'm not worthy of another session. Why would I ever do that? I'm a mom now. So I really did, like, I was able to kind of transform my idea of what I was worth and how, even though I am older, I have had children, my body's changed. I'm still beautiful, and I am still worthy of love, especially for myself. So I really do love to just stress to people that even if you go into it as intending to give it to as a gift to somebody, ultimately, the way that you feel inside after your session is going to be more gift than you could ever dream for that person. So it's kind of like a double but, yeah, I think that ultimately, boudoir photography is about reclaiming your sexuality, learning to really accept everything that's unique about you, and whether it's the you know, my eyes, for example, right? They're different sizes, and there's different things about us, right? I have a ton of freckles, and I have this little snail tooth back here. Everything about us is different, and everything about us is worthy of love.

Lesley Logan 4:32  

Yeah, no, I think that's beautiful. I think that's really because it is true outside of boudoir photography, I tell people all the time, if you need to get your pictures taken, right? Like, get your pictures taken. And people like, I'm uncomfortable to have my picture taken. And I'm like, people don't see the things that we nitpick about ourselves. I, too, I'm like, what is going on with this? Why is my eye like a different shape, right? So we see all these things, but most people don't see that in that having that style of shoe or it's about just showing off all parts of yourself and reclaiming those parts and not shoving them or shaming them or things like that. It's really powerful. And yes, you can give it as a gift, or can just be a gift for yourself. It could be like, this, I look fucking awesome, and I want to celebrate this moment, and I want to memorialize this moment. 

Shayla Pelton 5:20  

Exactly. 

Lesley Logan 5:21  

Okay, so there are people who don't think that they're sexy. There are people who don't think that they're worthy. There are people who think, well, that might be nice for them, or they think that they need to change what they look like to be able to do this. What do you say to that? And how do we talk about that?

Shayla Pelton 5:35  

Oh, absolutely yes. I think that every single person that I talk to that wants a session, but they're putting it off for whatever reason. It usually comes down to, oh, they want to lose weight, or they want to do this or change that. And I'm like, you are worthy now in this very moment. And we all deserve to be memorialized in that, in every single season of our lives. And I think it is so important to acknowledge the love that you have for yourself now, instead of waiting until you look like some other person's idea of beauty. Because really, at the end of the day, we don't need to change a thing, right? Maybe there are things that we can do to improve or whatever, but you don't have to. It doesn't make you more worthy or more beautiful or sexier or anything. Your heart, your soul. This is just a shell. Everything else is just love.

Lesley Logan 6:23  

That's beautiful. For you, like, I'm gonna be a boudoir photographer. How did you, how do you step into this? Because also, like, that's gotta be unique story. What's your be it till you see it becoming a boudoir photographer?

Shayla Pelton 6:35  

It feels like it was just a whole lifetime of steps and different things that happened to kind of push me in different directions. So first off, I always love photography. So even when I was a kid, we never had a professional camera. But if my mom ever bought one of those disposable Kodak cameras, I would just fill that mother up within the first 10 minutes, wait a couple months to develop it. But yeah, after I had kids, or after I had my daughter, my second, I got my first professional camera, and I started kind of doing, usually for family, but I started, you know, friends, and then friends of friends, and then I was referred to like a wedding, and then I did a couple newborns. So everything just spiraled with my photography business. And I actually made it official in 2020 so that was great. February, I got my trade name, and then, boom, shut down. I was starting to really see it as something that I could do professionally. But at the time, I mean, I just left Costco. I was there for 17 years, so I was really struggling with trying to make everything work. You know, give my attention to all different areas and aspects, but still honor what I was doing and my passion. And I knew that I had this love for it, but I still was not really asked about boudoir and anytime I even thought about doing boudoir photography, immediately in my mind, it was like, no, I'm not comfortable doing that. I wouldn't want to make somebody else feel uncomfortable about themselves. And really now, when I look back at that, I realize it's because I had so much self love to work on and I had so much growing to do myself. So I knew that if I wasn't comfortable myself, that would immediately like near to my client. I finally got to a point where I was gaining confidence with what I was doing. I had started hearing from more people like, hey, will you do a boudoir session for me? And then finally, like, you know, the wheels are turning and one of my friends that I've known since we were 12, when we were just little dorks on the playground, she had, the year prior, been in a horrific car accident on the freeway, and she rear ended a semi truck, and she had these incisions that went from her pubic area all the way up past like, her navel, up to her chest bone, and then everywhere else. She was changed forever, but she was having such a hard time loving those changes, appreciating even though she knew like she was strong, wow, I survived this. It was a constant reminder when she looked in the mirror, now she's ugly, now she's not worthy, now she's not lovable. And so she asked me, she was about to move to Texas, so she asked me, hey, will you just, will you do a boudoir session for me? You can use my apartment. I'll be your guinea pig. So I said let's do it. So I printed off poses online, and I brought some lighting, and the whole time I'm shuffling pages and adjusting the lighting, but I can so, like, still to this day, it's been at least almost three years, but the way that she at first, was very hesitant to, you know, caress herself, or, like, move, the way that she transformed during that hour, hour and a half, the way her eyes, at first, she was kind of shy, coy, and then all of a sudden, fire like just body language, her response, the way she felt afterwards. And the entire time, I felt, even I (inaudible) response. I felt like this fire burning in my soul, and it felt so good. And I, immediately, also started feeling better about myself, and like, damn, this is, I love this. I love the way that this feels. And so from then, I was all in. I did some model calls, and I just kept building the experience. And at first I was a little nervous, because we all have self-doubt. What if the first time was a fluke, because we knew each other so well, how could I recreate this with somebody else? But then I kept doing it, and then I was photographing complete strangers in this super raw, intimate, vulnerable state, and I was getting the same results, and they were feeling so good. And I was, oh, it feels so good. So yeah, I just I grew my portfolio, and I followed some of the best educators in boudoir, and I just learned everything that I could. Got my socials up and running, which was exhausting. But yeah, I finally just went full time in May, so three months ago. 

Lesley Logan 10:59  

Amazing. 

Shayla Pelton 11:00  

Yes. Thank you. Thank you. It is, it's, it feels, it just feels so good, even though there's things that I've loved and I've enjoyed and I'm good at, nothing gave me that spark like boudoir photography. 

Lesley Logan 11:12  

Yeah, thank you for sharing the whole journey though. I think so many people can resonate. Sometimes we're nervous about the things and we're drawn to things so there were, they scare us a little bit. It didn't cross your mind on accident. Like, you know what I mean? The things that we resist sometimes are there to assist. 

Shayla Pelton 11:30  

Yeah. Absolutely. 

Lesley Logan 11:32  

Yeah. So. 

Shayla Pelton 11:33  

And I think, too, there were even moments where just conversations or the way I'll compliment somebody, like, throughout my lifetime, I can remember people telling me, oh, wow, you make me feel sexy, right? Like when we were teenagers, early 20s, you make me feel sexy, make me feel beautiful, make me feel worthy. And I was already doing that, and then I just learned to do it with the camera. 

Lesley Logan 11:51  

Yeah, that's so fun. Okay, so you started this a few years ago, and now you're full time. And I think anyone listening, whether it's something, you don't have to be a boudoir photographer, some things just take time but if you are consistent and it also sounds like once you found this thing, you went in on it. So even though it wasn't a full time thing, you were doing boudoir and not going and shooting baseball games at the same time. You niched it so you could get down on this.

Shayla Pelton 12:17  

Yeah. I did. I did niche down. Yes. I think now that I'm full time photographer, I will do anything, but boudoir is always my passion, and that's always what I will prioritize and and even if I'm doing a family session, talk to the mom like, hey girl, right? When was the last time you really treated yourself? So it's, you know, but yes, boudoir, it's just, it's amazing.

Lesley Logan 12:38  

So you said prioritize. So I just want to come up. How do you prioritize you? Because you, starting a new business is not easy. You have mentioned kids plural, so, so and your spouse. So how do you prioritize you? Because it sounds like even though you are now more comfortable being a boudoir photographer, you still have to prioritize yourself to have that self worth and that and believe in yourself in that way. So what do you do? 

Shayla Pelton 13:04  

Yeah, well, I'll even add to it that for the first 12, 13 years of being a mom, my oldest is 16, I never prioritized myself, like most people, parental units like, weren't that great. So I'm always trying to elevate. I'm trying to do better, and I'm trying to avoid the parent yield that seems to always be there, like I'm not doing enough, I'm not being there enough. I'm not being present enough. So I never prioritize myself. I didn't treat myself. I didn't really take care of myself. And it's always like I was telling myself, you're being a good mom, because you're always there, and you're, right? You're not, you're not doing anything for yourself. So I finally, I started, you know, having conversations with other people and boudoir photography as well, like hearing from other educators about how important it is to take care of yourself, because if you don't take care of yourself, then that will affect everybody else in your life. So by you prioritizing yourself and at least taking small moments every single day just for yourself, you can show up so much better to the people in your lives. And that changed my entire family dynamic, like, tremendously. It completely, completely changed our lives, because suddenly I was scheduling at least a small amount of time in the morning for yoga, get some form of exercise in, a little bit of meditation. I started getting my nails done. I would do my makeup, which, I mean, it sounds kind of vain, but if you just need to lift up, right? If you just want to get that boost in confidence, you throw that on immediately. It's a boost. And it is a little self care, so little things like that. I started doing more and more for myself. Now I could feel it building. And at the same time, I'm also sharing that journey with my kids so that they can see, like, wow, this is how long it took for our mom to even appreciate her worth, but she's now teaching us hey this is what you can do, and even if you falter, you can always try and do better, because I've struggled with that still. I'm still not perfect. I still have bad days, but I keep giving myself grace and being like, hey you're doing what you can today, every day, your best is going to look different. So I still do try to prioritize myself. School started, so it's a little bit easier. My youngest is five, and he's officially in kindergarten all day, so I have been able to get a little bit extra me time. She's been a dope.

Lesley Logan 15:17  

I love that you shared it with them, because I think it's, it is so important for them to see that their parents don't revolve around them so that also they can have dreams and aspirations and you know? 

Shayla Pelton 15:28  

Exactly. Yeah. And I actually, so my husband and I went to Baltimore last week for a photo shoot for actually me to get my photos taken by someone that I followed since getting into boudoir photography. It was a dream shoot for me. Oh my God, my pictures look so good. Either way, my daughter was so upset, she's 10, and she was so offended that we would leave her for three days. I sat down with her, and I said, I want you to know that it's okay someday in the future, when you're a parent, if you want to do something for yourself and you are still making sure that your family is taken care of, everyone's needs are met, that's okay, and you're allowed to do that. And I was like, I know this makes you upset, because you love me. You wanna be around me all the time, and I love you too, but it is good for me to have this time and to do this for myself, and it's good for me and daddy to have some time too. So it was good, yeah. I try and turn the struggles into the learning moments. 

Lesley Logan 16:26  

I think that's impressive. So coming back onto boudoir, what is some misconceptions that people have about it? I think that's a good place to start. 

Shayla Pelton 16:33  

Okay. Well, first of all, misconception is like, oh I have to be a model or I have to have experience being in front of the camera or I have to be hot, right? It's like someone else's idea of hot, absolutely not. You as you are even no makeup, you're fucking beautiful. So like wardrobe, you have to only wear lingerie. You have to only wear sexy stuff. You could wear a paper bag, right? If you wanted to. A lot of clients do jerseys. They'll do even just like a white tank top and shorts or, right, little booty shorts or something. There's so many different ways that you can not only emphasize your curves and the things about you that you want to show off, but also honor yourself and your story and things that actually have meaning to you. And I think there's so many ways to personalize a boudoir session. People don't even realize that. They're like, oh, I'll just show up and get on the bed, you know, and boom. And then not being a model thing, most of my clients have never even had their own photo shoot done before. And I mean, everyone has this conceptions of to be good in front of a camera, you have to be photogenic, like, oh, I'm not photogenic. And really, I believe that it just comes down to being comfortable from the camera, and most people aren't, because it is awkward, it feels unnatural, and oftentimes a person taking the pictures isn't going to be able to connect with you on the deeper level and make you feel comfortable and draw out those beautiful emotions in you. And that's what I've really learned throughout this journey, is I can make anybody take a great picture, because I'm just going to get on your level. I'm going to relate to you. We're going to have a great time, we're gonna laugh, we're gonna be silly, we're gonna talk, and I'm gonna give you that space to just get comfortable and be yourself, and that will show in the pictures every single time.

Lesley Logan 18:30  

Yeah, I think you're completely correct about the photogenic side. I think it's just being comfortable. I've seen some of your photos, and I think some of the most beautiful photos of women without makeup, you can just be sitting on a couch like yourself. And I think maybe it's because of the models and the more adult space that we're like, oh, I have to look like that. And actually, you don't. You and in fact, there's something so beautiful about just there's something so beautiful about the real you shining through and when we get out of our head and we are just very present, you all need someone like Shayla, because every photographer I've ever had, my best photos come from the photographer is a someone I trust. They're someone that I'm comfortable with, they're someone I feel like they get it. They're this is not just a job to them. They're very involved in it, and they're making me feel comfortable. And I think that's the best part. What are some reasons why women have done a boudoir shoot? Obviously, there's the wedding gift, but what are some other reasons why?

Shayla Pelton 19:28  

Yeah, a lot of women want a little confidence boost. They probably heard from someone else, like, hey, I had this experience, and it was amazing, like, transformative, life changing. And a lot of them are saying hi, I'm gonna do that for myself. That sounds really great, but I'm gonna wait until I'm ready for it, right? So silly. (inaudible)

Lesley Logan 19:48  

Everyone's ready to lie, right?

Shayla Pelton 19:50  

Yes. Exactly. Don't lie to yourself. That's definitely a big one. And then, you know, maybe you hit like, a big birthday milestone, or one of my clients she actually at 63 beats cancer for the second time. That was her gift to herself. So like different ways that women find to honor themselves at a certain season of their lives. And then, of course, yes, there's the gift, you know, for your partner or special somebody.

Lesley Logan 20:18  

Has anyone had surprise reactions?

Shayla Pelton 20:21  

Oh yeah. Well, because almost everybody, even if they know what they think they're going to expect from the session, there's still that doubt. There's no way that I'm going to look as great as all these other women on her web page or her Instagram. I can't do that, but then almost immediately, and this is why I love doing it. But I will take the first couple shots, and then I'll turn around the camera and I will show them no retouching, no editing whatsoever. This is how beautiful you look. And so when they see that themselves, it is such a huge motivator, even in the session, they start almost immediately, like getting more confidence and just kind of like owning their space and their bodies in such a clear difference from where we started. And then, of course, when we do the reveals, because I do same day reveals, I get tears at least 50% of the time. Happy ones, they're happy tears. I have never, ever, ever made someone cry. But yeah, it's like that wow I truly am a fucking gorgeous woman and or man, or man, but I do, I just, I don't love over retouching photos so I don't body shape, I don't do too much obvious skin smoothing or anything like that, because I really do want people to see like I am beautiful exactly as I am. This is me, and so I really do and when they look at their photos, there's minimal touches from when I took them out of the camera, but there's always just an awe, like. 

Lesley Logan 21:51  

Yeah, I think it's so, I know I want to touch on, like, the I'll do it when I'm ready. This, it's so funny y'all can think back to looking at pictures of yourself in college and going, wow, why didn't I like myself more look how good I looked? So, may I just suggest that you are ready now because I just read a mantra like, this is the youngest I'll ever be right now. Like, tomorrow I will be older and so, yes. So, to have those special memories of who you are and capturing all about that you are, not just pictures of you in your favorite dress or like at a dinner with your friends. We have tons of those. Those are easy to get, but pictures of just from the inside out who you are, and have that in a moment, and also to really have I love that you keep like, that self love, I think it is so one of the things that's so hard to do is to love yourself. It is like a lifelong journey, but also just getting to have a moment to see how beautiful you are in your whole like your whole body, all of you. 

Shayla Pelton 22:54  

Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Because, I mean, truly, we never see ourselves like just beautiful vulnerability. We never really see that, because like the people that love us the most do, the people that we're the most intimate with they see us when we're in those moments where we're passionate and we're feeling sexy and we're feeling confident, but when we look at ourselves in the mirror, or we get pictures taken of us on the street, we don't feel like that. So we don't see that. And I think there's something so powerful in seeing that just raw version of yourself, and people are usually very surprised about that, like, what do you mean?

Lesley Logan 23:28  

I think we all need them so we can go, oh, I'm having it. Oh, look at that. Look at how I'm amazing. I can go take another day. 

Shayla Pelton 23:34  

Yeah, absolutely. And I think it's nice to think I can just train my mind to love myself, and now I'm like, all my self love issues are healed, and I'm doing great. But I think there's something that is it's so powerful in the experience, because, you know, hair and makeup, you're in this space where you're vulnerable and it's intimate, and you really get to just open yourself up. And it is just something that's so special, everyone should experience it at least once in your life. It's and it's not for everybody, right? Some people, none of my clients yet, but some people do it and then, like, you know what? I did it. I did that. But everyone else is like, oh my god, I gotta do that again.

Lesley Logan 24:19  

I think, but also, I think, depending how you are raised, the idea of to being sexy at all you know, can be a difficult thing to admit to yourself, and especially if you've had kids or things you're like, I don't know if I should be sexy or if I should see myself that way. And and I think you can be multi-hyphenated people. You can have all these different parts of you. Yeah.

Shayla Pelton 24:40  

Yeah, absolutely. I think we lose that as we get older and we're like, we just, I don't know, we see ourselves differently, but you can be anything. You can be whatever you want. I was very much like, I would wear long sleeve shirts lightened up and always mom jeans. Four or five years ago, that was my everyday attire. And I was like, you know what? I feel sexy. I'm gonna dress a little sexy. My daughter kind of hates it, but we, we have lots of talks about how it's, it's okay for women to wear what they feel comfortable (inaudible). 

Lesley Logan 25:10  

I love, yeah, I think that's but I also think that's so cool, because she gets to grow up. I mean, it's okay that she can voice out how she feels. But also, also, just like you would never want anyone to tell her what to wear. You know? 

Shayla Pelton 25:22  

Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. 

Lesley Logan 25:26  

I mean it's just a wonderful it's we're always learning, you know, and that helps us grow. And I think it's so cool. I also love that your children are a wide variety of ages, and I think that probably helps you with your different clients who are older or have just had a kid, and all these things, we just tell stories about ourselves and what we look like and doing a boudoir shoot. You guys, if you have not seen how cool they can be, it is kind of amazing how it doesn't matter the size of your body or the scars on your body or what you've been through, there is just beauty in you being yourself.

Shayla Pelton 25:57  

Yes, exactly, exactly. Yeah. 

Lesley Logan 26:01  

Shayla, what are you most excited about right now?

Shayla Pelton 26:03  

Oh, man, I am most excited to get fully booked. I want to spread as much self love as I possibly can, and I'm also doing a lot more of collabs with other photographers, other people that I know, where I'm really trying to also devote energy to creative projects and things that I enjoy. I'm just looking forward to the work to growing every day. I really do think that I learn a little bit and I give myself more grace, and I get a little bit stronger. So it is a journey, and it's never, never quite finished, but I'm definitely very happy with where I'm at now. And I feel so in love with boudoir photography.

Lesley Logan 26:44  

I mean, that's who we all want to take a photo shoot with. We're gonna take a brief break and find out where people can find you, follow you, work with you and your Be It Actions Items. 

Lesley Logan 26:51  

All right, Shayla, you said you live in Phoenix. Where can people connect with you online? Or how do you, how can they book with you? How can they see your work?

Shayla Pelton 26:59  

Yeah, let's start with Instagram, because from there you get all my website links, all the nitty gritty details, and you'll see, obviously, right up at tons of images and behind the scenes. So my Instagram handle is shaylapeltonphotography, and definitely, let's be friends.

Lesley Logan 27:15  

Yeah. And then you've given us a lot of ideas, but bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps we can take to be it till we see it. What do you have for us? 

Shayla Pelton 27:25  

Well, first of all, you can book yourself in the boudoir session, whether it's with me or somebody else, just do it for you, because you're worthy right now. But then going forward, I would really, no matter where you think you're at in life with your own self love a healing journey, I would definitely put time into energy work and releasing generational trauma and healing wounds within your own family, because the more that you really heal from the inside, it just, it, it always radiates outwards, and not just with you, but with everybody in your life. So.

Lesley Logan 28:03  

I love that. You guys, if you do the boudoir shoot, if you do it with Shayla, that's amazing. And if you don't, then you better tell us you did it. We want to celebrate you. 

Shayla Pelton 28:10  

Absolutely. 

Lesley Logan 28:11  

Yeah. Oh, you're so amazing. I'm so excited for you. Congrats on going full time. It's a really big deal. It's so scary. But you were in the greatest place. You have so much, so many different ways people can come and take their shots with you, and if we inspired you to do boudoir shoot, please let us know, because I do think it's really cool. It's definitely on my mind since I've met you, so though I don't see myself doing that with anyone but you, so I've got to figure that out. At any rate.

Shayla Pelton 28:39  

Let's talk. We'll figure it out. 

Lesley Logan 28:40  

Let's talk. You guys, share this with a friend. Share this with a friend who's having a hard time feeling beautiful. You know, maybe this is what they need to see themselves the way that you see them and the way other people see them. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. 

Lesley Logan 28:55  

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Lesley Logan 0:00  

It's Fuck Yeah Friday.  

Brad Crowell 0:01  

Fuck yeah. 

Lesley Logan 0:02  

Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:46  

Hi, Be It babe. How are you? Happy Friday. Okay, I'm just gonna be out for quick in case you missed last week's episode, these episodes are recorded in the past about the future, and so they do not necessarily embody exactly what's going on in the times of November 8th 2024 but they're wins. So you know what? In case it's a crappy day, let's focus on some of the good things that are going on around there. And if it's a great day, this is just going to be another great day waterfall for you. 

Lesley Logan 1:13  

So our first win is from Heather Ingram. Heather is an eLevate grad and an agency member, and we just adore her. She's phenomenal. So small wins, finally getting back into Slack and making time to work on my business after juggling family situations all summer, just finished From Messy to Magnetic webinar, dug into the digital brand kit workbook resources Nadine shared and just got my results from her three-minute brand quiz, and I'm blown away with how spot on the results are and they align with my four core values I exercise from the biz retreat. The recommended brand kit is nailed me, my vibe to a tee, which I was struggling to show in my branding. Taking the one and a half hours today to dig into this has lit a fire to stop procrasti-branding, waffling about which color is in design and just take action. Thanks for this fab webinar. Heather, you are so welcome. Nadine, you guys, was a guest here on the Be It pod, Nadine Hanafi, and so I hope that this win from Heather, if you've been wondering if you should do work with Nadine, helps you go try out her quiz and just see what that's like. And also, to all of you, procrasti-branding is when you procrastinate on the other work you do to like diddle around with your colors and your fonts, because brand is a feeling. So thank you, Heather, your passion for Pilates is such a joy, and anything that helps you go out and shout from the rooftops who you are and what you rock at, I am all for and I am cosigning on. So huge high fives for you. 

Lesley Logan 2:40  

All right, we have Christine Eschen, also an eLevate grad, and was Heather's partner in eLevate and an agency member. So I thought it'd be fun to share their wins together. So she wrote a day late here on my FYF wins, but here I am on a Saturday. Had a fantastic lavender retreat day last Sunday at my farm, and had the wonderful help of Lori. Lori Watson, oh, my God. We love her too. Loved having some agency and eLevate family here. Also had a fantastic quarterly call with LL last Thursday, finally, at a text with former student that said, oh, on my way out, I noticed this other Pilates studio down the street. Are they new? By the way, it is parked right outside of my target gated community. This easily could have turned into an I need a moment post, but I replied to my student she's close, but I will keep my abundance mindset, to which my student replied, you are amazing, Christine, calling in abundance. And so it is. I would be lying if I did not admit that I did actually have to give myself a pep talk afterwards about how worthy I am and that perhaps we both might be for different people. In that spirit, I was running errands today and stopped by this new studio, and her husband answered the front door, clearly trying to get ready, and I introduced myself and said I had a lavender farm and my own Pilates studio, and that I hoped she and I, a solo-produce, might find a way to collaborate or help each other. So I guess what I'm trying to say is that without the support of agency family and without LL and Brad, this might have gone differently and affected me much more. I wouldn't have believed that not everybody is for everybody, and that my people that are meant to be for me will not pass me by. Have a great weekend, everyone. XO, Christine. Oh my gosh. Christine, it's so hard when you're trying to make your magic happen and put yourself out there, and you've invested so much time and so much energy, and then while you're trying to build things up, someone else pops up, and it just can feel like a punch to the gut. But I think the way that you handled it is so beautiful, and whether or not they want to collaborate has nothing to do with you and reflects no way of anything about you. It reflects more on them. And you guys will find the right people for you, especially because you are going to keep going and putting yourself out there and sharing and shouting from the rooftops why you are amazing and how you help people, and you have that beautiful lavender farm for them to do Pilates at. So of course, you guys, if you live in Northern California, you should check out Christine. 

Lesley Logan 4:56  

All right. My win. So as you are listening to this, I am already on an annual girls trip with my mom and my sister. The annual trip started last year, so we are two years in, and honestly, there's so many reasons why we could have not done this. My sister's trying to move. My mom was just in Cambodia. There's been a lot of travel. I have tons of things I could be doing to prepare because winter tour's around the corner, but, you know, taking this holiday weekend to spend with them and try to create a kind of tradition of sorts is really important, also because I don't get to spend my holidays with my family, so spending, I think it is, veterans weekend with my family, is a great way to kind of get Christmas in early and Thanksgiving at the same time. And also being in a fabulous hotel. When do you get to do that on a holiday? You don't. You're usually like in homes, you know, around a fireplace and kind of trying to squeeze everything in. And we just get to spread out and take time. And so I just share this as a win, because if you are thinking, oh, I need to see, I want to see my friends and my family more, but I have too much to do. I want you to know if you take the day off or two days off to spend it with them, that's a win, because there's always so many reasons why you can't and eventually get to the place where you don't have the energy stamina, you know, to do it, or people are gone, or things have changed, and so I'll meet you this next year. I hope so. Missing me the same place. I don't know. There's a lot of life that can happen between now and then, but I do love having this weekend with them and taking time to celebrate being present with them. And so yeah, that's my win, and it came with a lot of planning in the past for the future to make it happen. And sometimes that's how it goes. That's how it goes, love. So if you know you have a slow season, use that slow season to plan a trip away that's during your busy season, because you'll be glad you did. 

Lesley Logan 6:49  

All right, loves, let me get you that mantra and then you're gonna get on with your weekend. My feelings deserve names, deserve recognition and deserve to be felt. My feelings deserve names deserve recognition and deserve to be felt. My feelings deserve names, deserve recognition and deserve to be felt. Yes, they do. You are amazing. 

Lesley Logan 7:07  

I can't wait to hear your wins. Send them in to the Be It pod. We want to hear and want to share it with you, and until next time, Be It Till You See It. 

Lesley Logan 7:14  

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Brad Crowell 7:57  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 8:02  

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Brad Crowell 8:06  

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Lesley Logan 8:13  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 8:16  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

Join Lesley and Brad as they reflect on their interesting conversation with the late Tom Palladino, a pioneer in scalar light research. Tom shared insights into his passion for helping others through energy healing, his unwavering positivity, and his unwavering dedication to making a difference. Together, they dive into Tom’s legacy and beliefs on eliminating distractions to embrace life's true calling, even amid skepticism.

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In this episode you will learn about:

• Tom’s journey and unwavering belief in scalar energy despite skepticism
• The power of blocking out negativity to fuel self-belief and sustained motivation
• Finding happiness by setting small daily goals and embracing progress
• How to move forward confidently without letting others' doubts detract from your vision.

Episode References/Links:

• Cambodia February 2025 Retreat - https://crowsnestretreats.com
• Flashcard Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlist
• Pilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/accelerator
• OPC Winter Tour - https://opc.me/tour
• Cadillac Flashcards - https://beitpod.com/cadillacflashcards
• Balanced Body/Contrology Equipment - https://beitpod.com/equipment
• Scalar Light - https://www.scalarlight.com
• Scalar Light Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/experiencescalar
• Ep. 436 Lisa Schlosberg - https://beitpod.com/436

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Episode Transcript:

Brad Crowell 0:00  

I'm intrigued by the claims that he was making, because I felt like, if it's reality, then it's amazing.

Lesley Logan 0:08  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  

Lesley Logan 0:50  

Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the interesting convo I had with Tom Paladino in our last episode. Here's the deal. Normally, this is where I say you should go listen to that one and you should. Unfortunately, our guest passed away two weeks after we interviewed them. However, their family still does their work, and so we decided to continue to share his work and his words with you. So go listen, and if you are still interested in what they do, the family actually still does the scalar work, and you can actually see it on their Facebook group. All right. So anyways, go listen. And now, today, I mean, it's just so interesting, I feel like I just need to take a beat. 

Brad Crowell 1:32  

Yeah. 

Lesley Logan 1:32  

We found out yesterday, before we recorded this, I interviewed a guy last year who was dying of cancer. I knew he was gonna die and his episode came out, he was still alive. And I was like, oh, you're still here. But I, that is, you know, you all think about that. We just think we're gonna live forever. So, anyways, he passed away from a fall. 

Brad Crowell 1:51  

Yeah, he fell and that was it. 

Lesley Logan 1:53  

Yeah, the family decided to donate his organs, which is really cool. And if you haven't yet done that on your driver's license or your iPhone. You should do that because. 

Brad Crowell 2:02  

I think I have (inaudible) driver's license. 

Lesley Logan 2:04  

But didn't you just do it on my health app on my iPhone?

Brad Crowell 2:06  

Yeah, but that's just to tell anyone who picks up your phone that you are an organ donor. It doesn't that's not a legal declaration. You need to do it through your driver's license.

Lesley Logan 2:15  

Well, I currently don't even have my driver's license, so. Brad left it in LA. Ah.

Brad Crowell 2:23  

Sure. 

Lesley Logan 2:23  

All right. Well, with that, well go do that. Go notify the powers that be or at least your family and friends who have you know medical decisions over you. Today is November 7th and it is Project Management Day. About this day. It's International Project Management Day is celebrated annually on the first Thursday of November, and is all about appreciating the important role project managers play on organizations. This year it falls on November 7th. Without project managers, the huge projects companies take on will be, frankly, impossible to achieve. LaVerne Johnson and Lori Milhaven of the International Institute for Learning (I.I.L.) created this day to give project managers the spotlight and appreciation they deserve. Shout out to Meridith who keeps us all on point and on time if you listen to the end credits and if you don't know that line, you don't listen to the end credits, we caught you. 

Brad Crowell 3:10  

Yeah, that's right. 

Lesley Logan 3:10  

And you might not know, might not know a project manager in your life, but you might be one, and so you might be the person who's managing all the projects and the day and today is your day.

Brad Crowell 3:19  

Today is your day. Congratulations. 

Lesley Logan 3:22  

Yeah, to Meridith. Also, we should acknowledge that we are recording this before the election and this episode is coming out after the election, so we are either celebrating like crazy or crying in a dark room. We don't know. 

Brad Crowell 3:36  

It's true. That's very true. 

Lesley Logan 3:38  

I think if you listen to last week's episode with Tia Levings and our recap there, you know, where our heart (inaudible) and also just the fact that we want all of you to live your best life, that should just give it away of where our heart desires (inaudible). And so. 

Brad Crowell 3:51  

And we have rights. Yeah. 

Lesley Logan 3:52  

Yeah. Rights. You know, that thing. And that everyone has equal opportunities to living an amazing life. 

Brad Crowell 3:58  

And voting. 

Lesley Logan 3:59  

Yeah. But that thing, voting, so many ways. I'm just gonna be really honest, I think we take a moment. In this moment, I could be eating my words. I actually think she's gonna slay. 

Brad Crowell 4:09  

It's gonna be close. 

Lesley Logan 4:10  

Fine. Well, that's because we have to get rid of Electoral College, that racist bullshit. Because if we got rid of that, none of us would be taking Prilosec every day. I just feel like a lot of people are excited to vote for her.

Brad Crowell 4:10  

Yeah, I'm feeling cautiously optimistic. Yeah. 

Lesley Logan 4:14  

Yeah, but obviously it's too late to tell you to go vote. Don't vote now, that would be wrong. You should have voted, and if you didn't, you need to make a voting plan and need a project manager in your life. 

Brad Crowell 4:33  

That's right. 

Lesley Logan 4:33  

To make that happen. 

Brad Crowell 4:34  

It's true. It's very true. 

Lesley Logan 4:36  

Okay, we just, like, literally, in recording this, we actually just got back from Cambodia, but we've been back for a while when you hear this, and we are going again in February, and now is the perfect time to snag your spot. You may be wanting to escape, or you might want to celebrate all the possible awesome, amazing (inaudible) that are going to happen in a new democracy here in this, we don't know. We don't, I don't know what's happening in the world right now. But either way, Cambodia is a great place to go to.

Brad Crowell 5:04  

We had a largest group we've ever taken this past trip. 

Lesley Logan 5:07  

Oh, my God. It was amazing. 

Brad Crowell 5:08  

Yeah, it was, we had 21 guests. It was incredible and.

Lesley Logan 5:13  

No. We had 20.

Brad Crowell 5:15  

23 of us total. My guess.

Lesley Logan 5:16  

Yes, okay, okay, okay. 

Brad Crowell 5:18  

And so it was great. It went off without a hitch. We had a great team around us, and incredible food, incredible experiences, amazing temple touring. You know, I was really proud of everybody on our team, and also I was really excited for everyone who joined us, because we lucked out with some of the weather. Obviously, that's one factor we cannot control, and it was a little bit overcast, which was quite nice for when we were out, which is usually like the hot sun, we were in a little bit of shade, so that was great. But we would love for you to join us in February, because this is the kind of trip that is a marker in your life. It will be pre-Cambodia and post-Cambodia. 

Lesley Logan 6:04  

Oh, yeah. 

Brad Crowell 6:05  

And you will talk about this trip for the rest of your life. 

Lesley Logan 6:07  

You all have to just watch Ainsley stand in the rain. And she did that. She came to Cambodia and knows she want to do that, because (inaudible) Cambodia. I do the same workshops, you know, that I've done before. And so I just said to her hey, like, how was that? Because you already did these a year ago. She's like oh, I was such a different person a year ago. It was, like, a whole new experience, right? And we already have people on that one who are coming on the next one, they're already, like, knowing, they know they're doing it again, because it is truly life changing, and it's really spectacular. You just get so good at being so present. You, like, you can only be when you're there, and so it's fabulous. So go to crowsnestretreats.com to snag your spot for February.

Brad Crowell 6:45  

Yeah, come join us. 

Lesley Logan 6:46  

All right, I'm also getting ready to go to LA. I am gonna be camping at Brad's friend's house. I mean, they're my friends now. We've been married for nine years, so. 

Brad Crowell 6:54  

It's true. They're your friends too. Camping is a funny way to say you're gonna use their guest bedroom. But, yeah, camping. 

Lesley Logan 7:01  

Is it a guest bedroom, Brad? 

Brad Crowell 7:02  

It's David's office. There's a pull-out couch. 

Lesley Logan 7:06  

There's not a wall on one side. So I'm gonna call that glamping. But I'm doing that because I'm gonna do the photo shoot for the accessories deck in a couple of weeks, and that means we are getting that much closer to the accessories deck coming out the last deck, and this deck is gonna have the Sandbag, the Two by Four, the Toe Corrector, the push up devices, the Guillotine, the Ped-o-Pull, towel exercises, a pencil exercise, a marble exercise, tons of things you can make at home, only a few you'd actually have to buy. So majority of deck can be used by anybody. And it's really amazing for just supporting your practice if you've been wanting to do Pilates more often, but maybe you can't go to a studio that much like this deck is for you, so you want to be on the waitlist for that. But also the team and I are really trying to get this deck done, because we are tired of releasing decks in hurricane season, so I am on a mission to (inaudible). So instead of it being a late Q2 presale. It would be an early Q2 presale.  

Brad Crowell 7:10  

So that we can ship in the summer. 

Lesley Logan 8:04  

Ship before hurricane season because, holy fucking moly, two hurricanes stop fulfillment wise back to back. 

Brad Crowell 8:12  

Back to back. Oh and last year that happened too. 

Lesley Logan 8:15  

Yeah, no, I'm done. We're done with that. We're not doing that anymore.

Brad Crowell 8:18  

This year was two, two in a row within one month, there was two (inaudible). 

Lesley Logan 8:22  

Yeah, three decks got out in between hurricanes. It was, I mean, everyone's safe. I can't complain. Our decks are safe. We are very, very lucky. But also, I'll be honest with our listeners, some people aren't fucking patient, and the nasty emails of impatient people, I'm like, Helene has caught, all of our people had to evacuate, so they're not at work right now, and UPS is not delivering, so you just need to take a beat and just pray that everyone's safe, and then they'll be delivering shortly. But you know, some people just aren't patient. Most of our listeners are. Thank you so much. But anyways, so that's how I really feel about that opc.me/flashcardwaitlist gets you on the waitlist. Why do you wanna be on the waitlist? Because the waitlist gets the best sale price of the decks ever. 

Brad Crowell 9:07  

It's the truth. (inaudible) 

Lesley Logan 9:08  

So because you'll be the ones who are patiently waiting through hurricane season, okay, no, you won't. We're gonna, we're gonna beat it to it. Then, Brad, you want to take it over? 

Brad Crowell 9:16  

Yeah, totally. Okay. We are back and I am back in my routine doing some webinars here, I'm really excited to be able to share the top three things that Lesley and I have learned after coaching more than 2000 businesses. These are the three things that move the needle on how do you grow your income in your studio, whether that is a home studio, a brick and mortar studio, whether you're renting from somebody and I want you to join me. It's a free webinar. It's called the Pilates Studio Growth Accelerator and it's only an hour. We shortened it. I was doing an hour and a half before, and I just realized it was too long. So come join me. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator that is profit without the O, prfit.biz/accelerator and get yourself signed up for free. Come join me, and I can't wait to dig into this topic with you and share these things that we've learned with you, and then, around the corner before we even realize it.

Lesley Logan 10:13  

Oh my gosh, it's a month from this release. 

Brad Crowell 10:16  

It's so true. 

Lesley Logan 10:17  

Like, the first stop is on the sixth of December. So it's in one month, the winter tour. You guys, you have to come.

Brad Crowell 10:24  

Yeah, come party with us. It's going to be so fun. 

Lesley Logan 10:27  

We have 23 cities at the time we're recording this, seven cities are sold out of classes. 

Brad Crowell 10:31  

I can't even believe it, literally, on the very, y'all are impressive, okay. On the very first day that we announced that there was tickets, three spots sold out within 24 hours? 

Lesley Logan 10:41  

Three cities sold out in 24 hours. Yes, yes. And five within 48 and now we're at and then Boston sold out in 24 hours of it being announced. So you guys, I can't even list the cities without looking at it, so just go opc.me/tour (inaudible). We're starting in Sedona, we're doing Oklahoma City. And then I forget the third, is the New Orleans the third one? 

Brad Crowell 11:05  

No, Memphis.

Lesley Logan 11:06  

Memphis. 

Brad Crowell 11:06  

And then Huntsville. 

Lesley Logan 11:07  

And then Huntsville, Alabama. 

Brad Crowell 11:09  

Yeah, New Orleans is on the way home. 

Lesley Logan 11:10  

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then from Huntsville, Alabama, I. 

Brad Crowell 11:13  

Atlanta, Greensboro, Washington DC, I think Pennsylvania, before (inaudible).

Lesley Logan 11:18  

And then Maine and then Boston, and then Cape. 

Brad Crowell 11:21  

Cape Cod. 

Lesley Logan 11:22  

When's Providence? 

Brad Crowell 11:23  

After that. 

Lesley Logan 11:24  

After that. Greenwich. 

Brad Crowell 11:25  

Yes. 

Lesley Logan 11:26  

Then we have Christmas and then, and then, from Christmas. 

Brad Crowell 11:30  

We're going down, I think, I don't know if we have a stop in Delaware. I think we're just going to Delaware to see the fam. 

Lesley Logan 11:35  

No stop in Delaware. 

Brad Crowell 11:36  

And then we go down to South Carolina. 

Lesley Logan 11:38  

Yeah, Charleston, Miami, Tampa, Pensacola. 

Brad Crowell 11:42  

Yep, then Pensacola, New Orleans, Austin, Dallas, Lubbock. We have Lubbock.

Lesley Logan 11:50  

Yeah. They promised me a good latte. They said they have it. They said it's a college town.

Brad Crowell 11:55  

Lubbock and then. 

Lesley Logan 11:56  

Phoenix. 

Brad Crowell 11:57  

Yeah, then we're gonna go over to Phoenix. 

Lesley Logan 11:58  

We just named them. 

Brad Crowell 11:59  

I can't believe it. I think that's 23 (inaudible) we may have, I think we got them all. 

Lesley Logan 12:02  

I hope we didn't miss any. (inaudible) Anyways, if we missed you, you must be sold out. 

Brad Crowell 12:07  

It's gonna be amazing. We kick off the beginning of December, and we literally 

Lesley Logan 12:10  

(inaudible) Virginia Beach. 

Brad Crowell 12:11  

Oh, that's where it was. Virginia Beach. Okay. 34 days on the road y'all. 34 days on the road. So come hang out with us.

Lesley Logan 12:20  

We're gonna love each other more or. Just saying.

Brad Crowell 12:24  

Yeah, and we will be bringing our pups, two of them this time, obviously, but they'll be with us.

Lesley Logan 12:28  

Oh, I don't think we've told everyone we said goodbye to Gaia. I don't think, we did it online only, we didn't tell our listeners.

Brad Crowell 12:35  

Well, if you haven't heard it's been a month since us recording this, Gaia has taken the rainbow road. 

Lesley Logan 12:42  

Yes, the rainbow bridge. 

Brad Crowell 12:44  

It's been a challenging, one of the most challenging decisions that I've ever had to make in my life, but she's in a better place so. 

Lesley Logan 12:53  

Yeah. And also, our boys are really quiet and you know that from listening to podcasts since she's fast there's no flapping of her collar or digging at the chair. 

Brad Crowell 13:06  

Or scratching at the door or barking at nothing.

Lesley Logan 13:11  

We also have a little bit more time. It's really weird. I miss her, though. It's so I look at the art, the artist is fucking awesome for this tour. You guys. It's like a rap album. It's fucking off. 

Brad Crowell 13:20  

Yeah, it's fun. 

Lesley Logan 13:21  

And I actually had to look at it before she passed away, and I, because I had to approve it, and I didn't want you to see it, and I had to approve it without her on it. And I was like, so anyway, she's not on it, and people are like, oh, there's only two, but there's two boys, they can't wait to see you and it's gonna be a lot of fun. So opc.me/tour to get your tickets, workshops are all levels, so you don't have to be a teacher to get them. There are CECs if you are a teacher. 

Brad Crowell 13:48  

Even the classes are also all levels. So yeah. 

Lesley Logan 13:49  

Classes are all levels. So come, come, come, trust me. 

Brad Crowell 13:51  

Even if you're brand new. 

Lesley Logan 13:53  

Oh yeah. I have literally had a class of eight teachers and two first timers, and let me tell you, they slayed. So, me too. So go to opc.me/tour this is the winter tour, we talked about this before, it is awesome, because it's either the best excuse to get you away from your family during the holidays, or it allows you to bring your family with you and you have a shared experience. But I'll entertain them for a couple of hours. You don't have to do anything. So, yeah.

Brad Crowell 14:17  

Awesome. Well, before we move into talking about Tom and digging into scalar light, we had an audience question. So Theresa8294 on YouTube asks, hey, Lesley, on a Balanced Body Allegro 1 Tower, which springs are leg springs and which springs are arm springs? Here's what I have. I have the long yellow and purple and I have the shorter yellow and red.

Lesley Logan 14:17  

Yeah, I love this question. For any Balanced Body piece that's not Contrology, it's always these springs.

Brad Crowell 14:33  

And if you have no idea what any of this means, I mean. 

Lesley Logan 14:41  

That means you're not doing Pilates. So here you go. So first of all, I just want you to know, on in the Cadillac tower flashcard deck we actually explain which springs to use and where to put them on your Tower or your Cadillac, so that you have the right angles, because the angles make all the difference, okay? So I literally give you the measurements. You can measure to make sure you're using the right hook or the, putting your sliding bar at the correct place. As far as the springs go, the purple springs are going to be your leg springs, and the long yellow I would use those as leg springs if you are like, if the purple springs feel like they're pushing you around, but ideally, you're at the purple springs because we need to help you get up and down off a toilet or off the ground. Okay, so I don't typically use the long yellow unless I have someone who's just really can't do the purple. The short yellow are great for arm springs. The red springs are used for your push through bar. Now, I'm gonna say all that, and I'm gonna say I really love the CenterLine® from Balanced Body. That line has gray springs, and I recommend getting two sets, one set for your rollback bar, one set for your arm spring, and ditch those short yellows. They're really light. So that's my opinion. And you can use our affiliate link to buy anything that you want over at Balanced Body and Contrology and that's what you do. So there you go.

Brad Crowell 16:07  

All right, now, let's talk about Tom Paladino. Tom was a passionate and positive scalar light researcher dedicated to making the world a better place, inspired by Nikola Tesla and guided by the legacy of Dr. T. Galen Hieronymus, he developed advanced scalar light instruments that enhanced health, balanced energy fields and neutralized over 400,000 pathogens Driven by his commitment to positive change, Tom used scalar energy to improve both the physical and emotional wellbeings of others. Yeah.

Lesley Logan 16:37  

Yeah. So, you guys, it would, you send, you can still email a picture of you or your loved ones, and then he, if you look in the YouTube video, you can see the tool that he uses behind him, and it, it's really quite, quite crazy, like he could just touch it, and it turned, I, this is where I'm gonna be really honest. This is where, you guys, I discovered that you could just do study hall in high school. I didn't do, I didn't do physics. I, also when quantum was added to the math class, I was out on that. So this is really over, over my educational head. 

Brad Crowell 17:14  

I'm just gonna go with I'm 1000% skeptical on this entire thing. 

Lesley Logan 17:19  

Right. But then I went on his Facebook page to look about his passing, and everybody is like, you healed this sister, you healed this person. Here's the thing, I also think a lot of people could say that about, you know, we've had Louise Swartswalter on and there's a couple other people that. 

Brad Crowell 17:35  

Yeah, I, that doesn't, none of that, like, this to me, I can't understand. I struggle when people tell me that science hasn't caught up to this science yet. 

Lesley Logan 17:44  

That's true. That is (inaudible).

Brad Crowell 17:45  

So you know, as soon as you go down that road. I'm like, is this a cult? You know? So. 

Lesley Logan 17:51  

He, yeah, I agree. Because also now when people don't believe in science, I get a little skeptical of them, but he's not not believe in science. He just said science doesn't caught up to him. 

Brad Crowell 17:58  

I know. So it's like walking a fine line, and there's definitely some logic behind it. But then there are some complete leaps and bounds of faith that you have to have that, for example, that your aura is associated with a photo. 

Lesley Logan 18:13  

Right. That, that's true. 

Brad Crowell 18:14  

I don't know if I can reconcile that. I don't understand how, I understand how a body, a physical being, has an aura because we emit energy. But when you take a photo of that body, then there's. 

Lesley Logan 18:25  

I know, well I don't. 

Brad Crowell 18:26  

Not sure I'm on the same page there.

Lesley Logan 18:27  

Isn't the Aborigines who are like against you taking a photo of them because they feel like it takes something of your soul. Here's the thing about faith, according to Tia Levings that's what you need for a lot of things. And so if this sounds cool to you, that's cool to me. If you're skeptical, it's also okay. I think it's okay. I think there's nothing wrong with being skeptical at somebody. But here's the deal, so he says quantum healing is not physical.

Brad Crowell 18:27  

Well, before we go even into that, I think we can say that he 1000% believed in what he did that was very clear, and he also was.

Lesley Logan 18:43  

There's something very inspiring about that. 

Brad Crowell 19:00  

And he also was very positive and came across very kind. So I'm intrigued by the claims that he was making, because I felt like, if it's reality, then it's amazing.

Lesley Logan 19:12  

Right. I agree it would be really, really cool if it works, and also if it and for the people who had to work for like that, I don't want to take that away from them. So at any rate, I had talked to him about how he does his day and what's going on, because he claims, like, I've never been sick. I'm never on any medication. And here's the thing, he didn't die from an illness. He died from a fall. This is the, that's like, the fucking ironic, you know? So that's when you're like, wow, I don't know if it's your turn, I guess, but it's, I find it really fascinating. So yes, you send your, you email them your picture, and you can email, you told me, I can email a picture of Gaia. I didn't, because I knew what we're doing, and I was like, we can save the prayer of something we have to make a decision on. But so many people on that Facebook page have sent pictures and really credit what he does as work that has helped people in their lives or themselves with their health stuff. So I think that's really cool. He also really credits his wife Nita, who, I read her post about their love and oh my god, so beautiful that. Anyways, she mandated his diet, and he didn't overeat, and he exercised daily, and he was happy and doctors said he was also very healthy. So, you know, I will say, I think several times I try to figure out what it was, and I really had a hard time getting out what the scalar light is, scalar energy is. But I'll say, for a lot of these, would you call it, not worldly, but these other type of exercises out there, I still feel like I don't really get great answers out of I don't feel like the definitions are there, and maybe because it's still being defined. So I really can't give a better description, unless you have a better description of what I listened to. 

Brad Crowell 20:54  

No. I mean, I think it's a conversation worth exploring and understand, like, beginning to understand. 

Lesley Logan 21:00  

Well, I kind of, like, if it really does work, it would be really cool if science would just test it out. That could be really cool. And so his family is still doing it, so maybe that could be an option. 

Brad Crowell 21:09  

Yeah. Well, he talked about quantum healing, not being physical healing. And I don't really understand that, but he said the energy from the sun. 

Lesley Logan 21:16  

Well, I think it means he's not touching you, so he's praying over your picture, but he's not physically touching you. You don't have to go to him. That's the thing that's actually really accessible about it, is that you don't have to go to a doctor if you have a rare cancer and you are going to go to the one doctor who does it, you have to fly there. He doesn't have, that's how I took the physical. 

Brad Crowell 21:35  

Yeah, okay, that actually makes sense. But he was talking about the energy, effectively, the machine he built is harnessing energy from the sun, and then he's passing your photo through the fields that are being collected from this machine that he built. And, yeah. 

Lesley Logan 21:53  

Yeah. Watch the YouTube. Go see it. 

Brad Crowell 21:55  

Yeah. 

Lesley Logan 21:56  

He showed me. 

Brad Crowell 21:57  

He did. I saw it. I saw it.

Lesley Logan 22:00  

Well, what did you like? Let's move on to what you like.

Brad Crowell 22:02  

I like that you kept asking him questions about him instead of questions about what he does. 

Lesley Logan 22:08  

I just, well, I think also I really like to know the people behind the things. I find that helps me understand especially when I'm like, I couldn't wrap my head around it. And so then I was like, okay, well, I can't wrap my head around it, so let me get to know the person who's behind it, because I also thought Pilates was shit, and then I really liked it, and then people who doubt what Pilates is but they really like me. So I feel like I can't stand here and be too skeptical of something, because there's plenty of people who are very skeptical at what I do, and there's not a lot of scientific studies about what Pilates does because the ones that are out there, they're doing exercises that I don't even teach. So there's actually no scientific study on exactly what I do, saying the claims that I have. So, you know.

Brad Crowell 22:50  

Yeah, I get that, but there's also a lot of logic involved in Pilates. Look, you asked him about passion. And he said passion is the reason why people get up, why they go to school, why they work, why they have kids, why they get married, etc. And he really encouraged people to believe in God, believe in yourself, to have goals and have objectives. You kind of asked him about skeptics of his work, and he said, with absolute confidence, that you cannot listen to the negativity of the unbelievers effectively. He said he experiences comments like that all the time about his work, but he never lost sleep over them. And I felt like that was actually really. 

Lesley Logan 22:51  

We all learned something from that. 

Brad Crowell 22:52  

That's important. It really is, you know, because there will always be people who are going to derail you or try to derail you, whether or not they're being intentionally malicious or ignorantly maligning, you know, or dis-railing you, there are people who are going to take you off the path, right? And that could be people who love and support you, but are afraid of you, and they're projecting their own fear into this situation, right? And they're telling you to be careful and be cautious and don't do the thing because, or maybe it's like your parents who were like, you want to be an artist, you got to go get a real job, right? So it's 100% what he's saying. I believe that. If you subscribe to what the negative people are going to say, or people who are projecting that fear on to the thing that you're chasing that will derail you totally. Ask any professional athlete, did they have to be single-minded and put the blinders on and not listen to the community they grew up in, or the people that are in their household, or the whatever. I'm sure they would agree with this as well.

Lesley Logan 24:39  

Yeah, yeah. I think so. I think we get all, take that as a great takeaway. You've got to have passion for what you're doing. Otherwise, like, what are what are we doing?

Brad Crowell 24:47  

Yeah.

Lesley Logan 24:48  

And if you don't have passion, because you like, I am a trash collector. I make great money, and it pays my bills, take care of my kids, I have health insurance, I can have this house on my head, then be passionate about your kids, or be passionate about a hobby you have. It's okay to just do a job, but we all have to have some passion in life, otherwise we're kind of just going through the motions. And so if you haven't found something you're passionate about, maybe you're passionate about donating your time to the animals and walking foster care dogs or something like that. I promise you, it gives you a lot of life. And I will say Tom is very vibrant and energetic. He was so passionate. It was both times I've talked to him, because I talked to him before we got him on the pod, I was like, I don't really get this, but he really cares.

Brad Crowell 25:28  

Yeah. And he said, if you follow your purpose in life, that's it, remove all the extraneous noise. So yeah. In that sense, he definitely took his own advice, and I'm excited. I think that's positive. I think that's helpful.

Lesley Logan 25:43  

You guys, this is two weeks before he passed away. Like what great advice that we could all learn from even if we don't use scalar energy.

Brad Crowell 25:50  

Yeah. All right, stick around. We'll be right back. 

Brad Crowell 25:53  

All right. So finally, let's talk about those, be it action items, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Tom Paladino? He said you have to be happy in life. If you want to change your life, you need to take gradual steps, one goal a day, one small goal a day. Imagine if you have only one goal, just one improvement a day, and only do that Monday through Friday, that's 200 if you only do those small improvements Monday through Friday, you're at 200 improvements a year or in business, whether that's in your home life, your family life, or your social life. And he said, imagine 8 billion people experiencing benefits every single day around the world, if we were focusing on progress, on one goal a day. And he said, that's what the world is missing. Now we need to stop fighting each other, and we need to have progress. We need to make progress. 

Lesley Logan 26:45  

I love all of this. I just told our agency members during their breath work session at the end, I was like, you're all doing too much. If you just did one thing each day the rest of the year, that'd be on the day that we're recording this. I mean, 92 things, right? That was October 1st and December 31st, like, 92 things. It's a ton of things. That is so many things. I bet you don't even have 92 things on your to do list. We just cleared it, but you're trying to do 17 things in one day. That's why you're fucking it up. And so I really like that. I like that action item. 

Brad Crowell 27:14  

Yeah, I think that's, an incredible addition to it is, you know, we pile so much on our plates, and we've got like 10 projects we've got to start or do or tackle, or do finish or whatever. And what if we just did one of them, just did one and got to the point where it was finished and we start the next one, we'll probably actually finish all 10 projects faster than if we try to juggle them all at the same time. 

Lesley Logan 27:39  

Is that, are you looking in the mirror when you say that? 

Brad Crowell 27:42  

Yeah, I was looking right past myself.

Lesley Logan 27:44  

Someone has a Be It Action Item for themselves. Okay, my turn. He said change for the better. In order to make an improvement, we have to change. If things aren't working out, we have to change. Take small steps towards improvement even if it means doing something new or unfamiliar. And we just released an episode literally October 22nd, Lisa Schlosberg said, "You are uncomfortable, not unsafe." So when you are making these different changes and you're doing something that's new or unfamiliar, it can make you uncomfortable, but you're not unsafe. And when you do those things, you change for the better. So I'm like adding a little of this and a little of this, and I'm making it all up. I really love it. 

Lesley Logan 28:25  

So anyways, I think fascinating conversation, very interesting. If you try it out, let us know how it goes. To Tom's family, who's working on it, I'm really sorry, because he was so passionate. What kind of amazing energy and positive energy to be around all the time. That is a loss. And he cared so much for so many. He is praying for so many people. So I know that is never gonna get easy to have said goodbye to him so soon or ever. But Tom, thanks for sharing your energy and passion with us, and I think we all can like have a little takeaway of something you said. So, I'm Lesley Logan. 

Brad Crowell 29:00  

And I'm Brad Crowell. 

Lesley Logan 29:01  

Thank you so much for listening to our episodes. We love you. We have something really fun and exciting coming up with the December episode. So stay tuned. Brad might not even know what we're doing, but we're about to record some fun stuff and until next time, Be It Till You See It. 

Brad Crowell 29:15  

Bye for now. 

Lesley Logan 29:17  

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Brad Crowell 30:00  

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Brad Crowell 30:09  

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Brad Crowell 30:19  

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