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What do you do when the market crashes and your team starts to panic? ZoomInfo’s CRO James Roth has one rule: don’t lower the bar.
In this episode, James opens the playbook on what it really takes to lead a high-performing sales org through chaos. No buzzwords. No theory. Just the hard truths, decisions, and systems that keep ZoomInfo’s revenue engine running—even when headlines scream panic.
▶ From stock market volatility to sales team psychology, from discipline under pressure to the revolutionary impact of AI—this episode goes deep.
James shares:
This is the episode to share with your VP, your board, or your top performers who are questioning how to navigate market uncertainty.
It’s a candid, behind-the-scenes conversation with one of the most respected go-to-market leaders in SaaS.
Watch until the end—James reveals the single most damaging mistake sales leaders make when markets tank (and it's not what you think).
About the Show
What does it really take to grow a B2B business today? We ask the people doing it.
The Belkins Podcast dives deep into the strategies, decisions, and behind-the-scenes insights driving real growth at top B2B companies. Each episode features candid conversations with industry heavyweights—CROs, CMOs, founders, and seasoned operators—who've navigated market downturns, scaled teams, and mastered the realities of revenue growth.
You'll hear hard truths, unfiltered insights, and actionable tactics directly from leaders who've actually done the work.
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About the Host
Michael Maximoff is the Co-Founder and Chief Growth Officer of Belkins, the #1 ranked B2B appointment-setting agency, recognized by Clutch, G2, and Inc.
Over the past decade, Michael has built Belkins into one of the most respected voices in B2B sales and marketing, helping over 1,000 companies across 50+ industries achieve predictable, scalable growth.
Known for his straightforward style, Michael hosts the Belkins Podcast to speak directly with top growth leaders and uncover what truly moves the needle today.
Let's stay connected:
👉 James Roth - https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-roth-3a913b51
👉 Michael Maximoff - https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-maximoff/
👉 Michael’s newsletter “From Zero To Agency Hero” From Zero To Agency Hero - https://www.fromzerotoagencyhero.com/
👉 Belkins - https://www.linkedin.com/company/belkins/
Cold calling is making a comeback. Enterprise sales has changed. And taking prospects to the World Series might just be the smartest move in sales.
In this episode, Colin Specter, VP of Sales at Orum, breaks down how he helped scale a bootstrapped startup into a Series B+ sales powerhouse—and why relationship-driven sales is more important than ever.
Does taking a prospect to the World Series make sense? Colin explains why high-touch engagement wins big deals—and why an $8,000 investment on client experiences can outperform digital lead gen.
Why cold calling isn’t dead. AI has flooded inboxes, making voice the next frontier. Find out why sales teams are doubling down on live conversations.
Orum’s go-to-market edge: Why their "pilot-first" approach closes faster than traditional sales cycles.
The #1 mistake sales leaders make when moving upmarket. Colin shares why some startups fail at enterprise sales—and how to avoid those missteps.
Forget MEDDIC—why Orum created its own framework (MEADFIC) and what’s missing in your sales process.
Full-cycle selling is back: Why top AEs are generating their own pipeline—no matter how full their calendar is.
Watch until the end to hear Colin’s biggest leadership lesson- and why your sales team should start thinking like CEOs of their own territories.
🎧 Don’t forget to subscribe for more bold insights on sales, marketing, and revenue growth!
Timecodes:
00:00- Introducing Colin Specter
02:50- The Power of In-Person Sales? Colin's Travel Insights and Customer Engagement
14:40- The Mid-Market Trap: Why It’s Harder Than It Looks
17:40 - Building a Category Leader: How Orum Stands Out in a Crowded Market
28:15- How AI Is Changing Cold Calling
39:20- Beyond MEDDIC: Orum's Unique Sales Framework
45:30- Playbooks Don’t Close Deals—People Do
1:00:50- Hiring and Developing Elite Sales Teams
1:05:55- Champion-Building 101: The #1 Factor in Closing Enterprise Deals
1:12:30- Why Every AE Should Be Prospecting
1:15:55- Social Selling and the New Buyer Journey
1:19:32- Get to Know Colin: Surfing, Motorcycles & Final Message
Let's stay connected:
👉 Colin Specter - https://www.linkedin.com/in/colinspecter
👉 Michael Maximoff - https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-maximoff/
👉 Michael’s newsletter “From Zero To Agency Hero” From Zero To Agency Hero - https://www.fromzerotoagencyhero.com/
👉 Belkins - https://www.linkedin.com/company/belkins/
#BelkinsPodcast #SalesLeadership #EnterpriseSales #B2BSales #ColdCalling #Orum #SalesStrategies #SalesDevelopment #B2BMarketing #RevenueGrowth #StartupSales #TechSales #SalesCulture #SalesPlaybook #SalesProcess
Welcome to Episode 12 of the Belkins Podcast!
In this unmissable episode, Peter Caputa, CEO of Databox and the creator of HubSpot’s famous partner program - joins host Michael Maximoff for an unfiltered conversation on SaaS growth, leadership, and the changing dynamics of marketing.
In this value-packed episode, Peter reveals:
Stay tuned until the end for Peter’s predictions on the future of marketing and how combining different strategies can give your business an edge.
Whether you’re a business leader, marketer, or entrepreneur, this episode is full of practical ideas and strategies you can use right now.
Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro: Meet Peter Caputa, CEO of Databox
2:25: Peter’s Approach to Content Creation and Storytelling
8:30 - How Databox is Redefining Benchmarking for Businesses
12:00- How Agencies Use Databox Benchmarks to Improve Performance
15:05 - Using Seasonality Data to Save Ad Spend
18:50 - Common Mistakes Companies Make in Their GTM
22:25 - Integrating Marketing and Sales for Best Results
24:10 - Insights on Full-Cycle AEs vs. SDRs
28:53 - Partnerships As a Powerful Tool for Growth
33:46 - Real-World Challenges in Selling Data Analytics
40:53 - Lessons on Leadership and Delegation
48:00 - Tactics to Overcome a High Churn Rate
57:45 - Final Thoughts and This or That Quiz
Let's stay connected:
👉 Peter Caputa - https://www.linkedin.com/in/pc4media/
👉 Michael Maximoff - https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-maximoff/
👉 Michael’s newsletter “From Zero To Agency Hero” From Zero To Agency Hero - https://www.fromzerotoagencyhero.com/
👉 Belkins - https://www.linkedin.com/company/belkins/
Welcome to Episode 11 of the Belkins Podcast
In this episode, Michael Maximoff sits down with Bruno Estrella, the Head of Growth Marketing at Clay and former Director of Growth Marketing at Webflow. Bruno shares his remarkable journey from playing soccer in Rio to leading growth strategies in Silicon Valley.
They dive deep into the challenges and strategies of scaling startups, discussing:
Don't miss this insightful conversation packed with actionable advice for entrepreneurs, marketers, and growth enthusiasts!
Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro
1:57 - Introducing Bruno Estrella and Clay's $60M funding
3:07 - First thoughts after closing the $60M funding round
4:02 - Pressure as a privilege: Handling large funding
6:38 - The anxiety of spending large marketing budgets
6:51 - Clay's bold billboard campaign in San Francisco
7:49 - Strategically timing marketing during Dreamforce conference
8:34 - Challenges of measuring ROI on billboards
9:51 - Target setting and strategic planning post-funding
10:01 - 12-month growth planning and budget allocation
13:22 - Scenario planning: Best case, realistic, and conservative
14:07 - Collaboration with CFO and investors in planning
16:18 - What makes Clay a special company
16:28 - Building community and ecosystem around Clay
18:00 - The flexibility and power of Clay's product
20:30 - Making Clay a special place: Embracing controlled chaos
23:15 - Comparing growth strategies at Webflow and Clay
26:25 - Budget allocation and stress management at Webflow
30:07 - Chasing opportunity vs. fear of missing out
32:33 - Implementing product-led growth at Webflow and Clay
35:27 - Common misconceptions about product-led growth (PLG)
37:22 - Adding sales-led motion to PLG strategy
40:07 - Scaling enterprise deals: From $40/mo to $40,000/year
42:25 - Omni-channel vs. multi-channel marketing strategies
45:25 - Importance of high volume and multi-channel in PLG
46:20 - Discussing previous experience at BAMP
48:25 - Risks of building services on single tactics
50:06 - Hiring for leadership roles at hyper-growth companies
53:35 - Traits that don't fit in startups: Need for structure
55:23 - Bruno's journey from Rio to Silicon Valley
56:40 - Transition from soccer to marketing
57:52 - Reflections on career success and immigrant experiences
Stay connected with us:
👉 Bruno Estrella - https://www.linkedin.com/in/brunoestrella/
👉 Michael Maximoff - https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-maximoff/
👉 Michael’s newsletter “From Zero To Agency Hero” From Zero To Agency Hero - https://www.fromzerotoagencyhero.com/
👉 Belkins - https://www.linkedin.com/company/belkins/
#Belkins #BelkinsPodcast #Michael_Maximoff #GrowthMarketing #ProductLedGrowth #StartupStrategies #BrunoEstrella #Clay #Webflow #BelkinsPodcast #Entrepreneurship #MarketingLeadership #SiliconValley #StartupGrowth #GTM #CommunityBuilding #SaaSMarketing #StartupChallenges
Welcome back to the Belkins Podcast! In Episode 10, host Michael Maximoff sits down with Keith Rabkin, Chief Revenue Officer at PandaDoc, a company that reported over $120 million in annual revenue with a customer base of around 60,000 businesses.
Keith brings over 20 years of operating experience from industry giants like Google, Adobe, and Johnson & Johnson. He's one of the few individuals to have won the Great Manager Award at Google and is currently mentoring various startups.
In this insightful episode, Keith pulls back the curtain on the document handling industry, sharing surprising truths like why "nobody cares about document workflow." Discover how PandaDoc differentiates itself in a crowded market, the rationale behind eliminating SDRs in favor of full-cycle AEs, and the impact of integrating AI into their GTM strategy.
Join us as we delve into:
Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro
1:11 - Introducing Keith Rabkin: From Google to PandaDoc's CRO
2:30 - PandaDoc's Market Position and Differentiators
4:04 - Who Are PandaDoc's Main Competitors?
5:21 - What Makes PandaDoc a Leading Company?
7:04 - Keith's Contributions and Vision at PandaDoc
8:54 - Streamlining Customer Experience: Eliminating SDRs
11:03 - The Role of Key Partnerships and Integrations
14:01 - The Importance of Customizable Solutions
15:24 - Transitioning to Full-Cycle Account Executives
16:33 - Surprising Industry Facts: Overages and Rate Increases
17:46 - PandaDoc's Go-To-Market Strategy and SEO Success
20:01 - Exploring New Channels: Social Media and Connected TV Ads
22:07 - In-House vs. Outsourcing: Content and SEO
24:03 - Why Keith Stopped Writing on Substack
25:18 - The T-Shaped Leadership Philosophy
27:07 - Adapting GTM Strategies: AI and Market Changes
29:01 - Keith's Reflections on His Time at Google
32:05 - Why Makita Mikitani Feels Lucky to Have Keith as CRO
34:00 - The Importance of Collaboration and Grit
35:42 - People and Culture at Google vs. PandaDoc
39:04 - The Impact of Eastern European Culture on PandaDoc
41:28 - Advice for Working with U.S. Leadership Teams
44:03 - Key Metrics Keith Focuses on as CRO
46:06 - Building Long-Term Value and the Flywheel Effect
49:45 - Keith's Perspective on Being a CRO
51:53 - The Big No-No When Selling to a CRO
56:05 - Quick-Fire Quiz: Selling Strategies That Work
1:07:14 - Final Thoughts and Key Takeaways
1:07:37 - Outro
Stay connected with us:
👉 Keith Rabkin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/krabkin/
👉 Michael Maximoff - https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-maximoff/
👉 Michael’s newsletter “From Zero To Agency Hero” From Zero To Agency Hero - https://www.fromzerotoagencyhero.com/
👉 Belkins - https://www.linkedin.com/company/belkins/
#BelkinsPodcast, #KeithRabkin, #PandaDoc, #CROInsights, #DocumentWorkflow, #SalesStrategies, #FullCycleAEs, #GoToMarket, #CustomerFirst, #MarketingCampaigns, #EasternEuropeanCulture, #Leadership, #AIInSales, #GTMStrategy, #MichaelMaximoff, #BusinessPodcast, #SalesTips, #MarketingInsights, #SalesAndMarketingAlignment
Welcome back to the Belkins Podcast after a long break.
In this new episode, our updated studio. And no more leather jackets!
In episode 9, Michael sits down with Jen Allen-Knuth, founder of DemandJen and renowned sales trainer and keynote speaker. Jen shares her incredible journey from an individual contributor in sales to a LinkedIn thought leader with over 70,000 followers. Discover how she used authentic writing, data-driven insights, and a focus on problem solving to transform her career and empower sales teams around the world.
Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro: New Studio and No More Leather Jackets
2:30 - Introducing Jen Allen-Knuth: From Sales Rep to Thought Leader
5:03 - How LinkedIn Growth Transformed Jen's Career
5:52 - The Power of Authentic Writing Over Audience Size
7:04 - Leveraging Data to Understand Customer Problems
13:46 - Focusing on the Problem, Not the Solution, in Sales
15:24 - The Importance of Sales and Marketing Alignment
19:58 - Leadership Lessons: Admitting Mistakes and Servant Leadership
24:02 - Team Exercises: Gaining Perspective Through Role Exchange
27:53 - Enhancing Communication Between Sales and Marketing
31:02 - Jen's Top Sales Advice: Highlight Problems Worth Solving
33:19 - Advice for Marketers: Communicate Like Real People
34:46 - Empowering Sales Teams with Ideas, Not Just Motivation
37:06 - The Future of Sales Roles: Full-Cycle vs. Specialized
41:42 - Accountability in Building Your Own Pipeline
44:50 - Quick-Fire Quiz: Jen's Sales Preferences
49:41 - Final Thoughts and Key Takeaways
50:01 - Outro
Don't miss out on this deep dive into the world of startups, marketing innovation, and the relentless pursuit of success.
Stay connected with us:
👉 Jen Allen-Knuth - https://www.linkedin.com/in/demandjen1
👉 Michael Maximoff - https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-maximoff/
👉 Michael’s newsletter “From Zero To Agency Hero” From Zero To Agency Hero - https://www.fromzerotoagencyhero.com/
👉 Belkins - https://www.linkedin.com/company/belkins/
#Belkins #Growth_Podcast #Michael_Maximoff #Belkins_Podcast, #Jen_Allen_Knuth, #Demand_Jen, #Sales_Strategies, #LinkedIn_Growth, #Modern_Selling, #Sales_Empowerment, #Data_Driven_Sales, #Sales_And_Marketing_Alignment, #Authentic_Writing, #Personal_Branding, #Sales_Leadership, #Professional_Development, #B2B_Sales, #Sales_Tips,, #Servant_Leadership, #Full_Cycle_Sales, #Sales_Advice
Welcome to the Belkins Podcast! In this episode, we've compiled the best moments from Season 4 of the Growth Podcast - part 2, now rebranded to Belkins Podcast and available on our new YouTube channel.
Join our host, Michel Maximoff, Co-Founder & Managing Partner of Belkins, as he engages with industry leaders and experts. Dive into insightful discussions on sales, marketing, leadership, and personal growth. Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more valuable content!
👉Speakers in this episode:
Jim Cathcart - Mentor and Author
Chris Walker - CEO Passetto, Chairman Refine Labs
Scott Leese - CEO & Founder Surf and Sales, Founder Milos Ventures
Dolores Hirschmann - CCO Masters in Clarity
Andy Paul - Author, Founder The Sales House
Jared Robin - Founder RevGenius
Mita Mallick - Author, Writter, Head of Inclusion, Equity and Impact Carta
Anthony Iannarino - Sales Leader, Writer, Author, Speaker
John Barrows - CEO JB Sales, Advisory Board Member CloudTask
Matthew Pollard - Founder Rapid Growth
Don't forget to subscribe to stay updated on our latest episodes and follow us on social media for more insights and updates!
👉 Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro
0:19 - The Teller Who Trained Presidents
2:59 - "If you fit into the spectrum of normal, you tend to do normal things"
7:31 - The Power of Opportunity Awareness
10:03 - Why Sales Reps Matter: Regret and the New Buyer Experience
11:33 - From Surface Complaints to Core Concerns
13:04 - Unrealistic Expectations in Sales
15:10 - Breaking the Script
18:31 - Fear vs. Empathy in Leadership
20:58 - Beyond KPIs: Focusing on Relationships
24:47 - The Downside of Hustling from Fear
26:37 - Why Vision is Crucial for Differentiation
27:52 - The Purpose of Life: Living Fully and Passionately
31:33 - Balancing Priorities in a Changing Market
34:21 - Identifying and Honoring Your Organization's Top Five Values
Stay connected with us:
👉 Michael Maximoff - https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-maximoff/
👉 Michael’s newsletter “From Zero To Agency Hero” From Zero To Agency Hero - https://www.fromzerotoagencyhero.com/
👉 Belkins - https://www.linkedin.com/company/belkins/
In this riveting episode of the Belkins Podcast, join host Michael Maximoff as he delves into a candid conversation with Anthony Kennada, Founder & CEO of AudiencePlus. Discover the unfiltered realities of being a first-time founder, the highs and lows of building a company from the ground up, and the crucial lessons learned along the way.
Anthony shares invaluable insights into the challenges of year one, the strategic vision for 2024, and the transformative power of owning your audience. Whether you're a budding entrepreneur or a seasoned professional, this episode offers a wealth of knowledge and inspiration.
👉 Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro
2:08 - The Hardships of Year One as a Founder
3:10 - Strategic Vision for AudiencePlus in 2024
5:03 - Implementing EOS for Company Alignment
7:09 - The Importance of Product Market Fit
9:00 - The Journey from CMO to Founder
12:05 - Building a Brand that Owns the Idea
15:30 - Competing in the Current Market
18:31 - Netflix as a Model for Data-Driven Decisions
20:48 - The Loneliness of the CEO Role
22:34 - The Challenge of Context Switching
24:44 - Balancing Professional and Personal Life
27:13 - Finding Meaning and Motivation as a Founder
29:05 - The Importance of Product Marketing
32:25 - Building and Scaling Teams at Hopin
35:20 - Challenges of a CMO in a Hypergrowth Company
38:29 - Creating a Sense of Ownership in Teams
40:42 - Aligning Sales and Marketing
43:45 - The Success of Golden Hour Event
47:22 - Toughest Decisions and Learning from Mistakes
51:42 - The Future of AudiencePlus and the Evolution of Marketing
55:20 - Managing Relationships and Building Networks
58:02 - Final Thoughts and Reflections
Don't miss out on this deep dive into the world of startups, marketing innovation, and the relentless pursuit of success.
Welcome to the Belkins Podcast! In this episode, we've compiled the best moments from Season 4 of the Growth Podcast, now rebranded to Belkins Podcast and available on our new YouTube channel.
Join our host, Michael Maximoff, Co-Founder & Managing Partner of Belkins, as he engages with industry leaders and experts. Dive into insightful discussions on sales, marketing, leadership, and personal growth. Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more valuable content!
👉Speakers in this episode:
Geoffrey Moore - Author, speaker, advisor
Cinthia Silva - Top 10 Women Leaders in Customer Success 2024
Alina Vandenberghe - Co-founder & Co-CEO at Chili Piper
Bishoy Tadros - Author, Speaker & Life Coach
Sam Jacobs - CEO at Pavilion
Ashley Faus - Head of Lifecycle Marketing, Portfolio at Atlassian
Dennis R. Mortensen - CEO and Founder of LaunchBrightly
Keith Daw - Founder of The Candidate Concierge
Will Allred - Co-founder at Lavender
Amir Reiter - CEO at Cloudtask
👉 Timecodes:
0:00 - Introduction to the new channel and the best of Belkins Podcast
0:25 - Debunking myths in sales and marketing with Geoffrey Moore
1:31 - Discussing company growth and team satisfaction
2:26 - Building a unicorn with Cinthia Silva
4:00 - The importance of understanding team dynamics
6:05 - Using DISC assessment for better leadership with Alina Vandenberghe
8:03 - Entrepreneurship and the power of saying no with Bishoy Tadros
10:01 - Personal philosophies for success with Ashley Faus
12:04 - Impact of mood and energy in professional life with Sam Jacobs
14:17 - Recognizing and addressing negative thought patterns
16:06 - The role of a good leader in team success
18:14 - Building resilience and emotional stamina
19:04 - The importance of transparency and honesty in leadership
21:04 - Challenges and benefits of AI in business
24:02 - The importance of sacrifice and dedication for success
26:02 - Metrics for evaluating career satisfaction
28:14 - Navigating corporate America and finding mentors
31:34 - The evolving focus on customer experience
33:03 - The nurturing process and giving back to the community
36:07 - Balancing existential threats and technological advancements
38:04 - Adapting to rapid technological changes
41:10 - Effective communication and leadership in growing companies
43:04 - The impact of a difficult boss vs. a powerful mentor
45:10 - The dynamics of power in startup environments
Don't forget to subscribe to stay updated on our latest episodes and follow us on social media for more insights and updates!
Stay connected with us:
👉 Michael Maximoff - https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-maximoff/
👉 Michael’s newsletter “From Zero To Agency Hero” From Zero To Agency Hero - https://www.fromzerotoagencyhero.com/
👉 Belkins - https://www.linkedin.com/company/belkins/
#Belkins #Belkins_Podcast #Growth_Podcast #Michel_Maximoff #Geoffrey_Moore #Cinthia_Silva #Alina_Vandenberghe #Bishoy_Tadros #Sam_Jacobs #Ashley_Faus #Dennis_R_Mortensen #Keith_Daw #Will_Allred #Amir_Reiter
Are you ready to redefine the future of sales and revenue generation?
In this episode, we sit down with Jacco van der Kooij, founder of Winning by Design, to explore the seismic shifts happening in the sales landscape. Jacco brings his wealth of knowledge and forward-thinking perspectives on how AI is transforming sales roles, the importance of understanding business models, and the critical shifts needed for sustainable growth.
We’re diving into:
◾ The impact of AI on the future demand for salespeople
◾ Transitioning from traditional sales methods to AI-driven strategies
◾ The importance of aligning your go-to-market motion with your product
◾ The role of reoccurring revenue in today's market
◾ How to balance acquisition and retention for long-term success
◾ Personal insights on entrepreneurship and overcoming industry misconceptions
Join us to uncover how to stay ahead in the evolving sales ecosystem, create meaningful connections, and drive business growth in the AI era.
👉 Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro and highlights
2:04 - Introduction of the guest and their work
3:00 - Podcast production quality and team involvement
3:25 - Philosophy behind the podcast and its purpose
3:36 - Guest's experience in video processing technology
4:19 - Technological progress and real-time cloud filming
4:36 - Red Bull consumption and health
7:02 - Branding and merchandise strategy
8:00 - Selling and creating branded merchandise
9:13 - Importance of brand building and consistency
10:00 - Challenges and principles in maintaining brand integrity
12:03 - Dedicated and independent branding efforts
15:40 - Customer-centric approach and its impact on branding
16:32 - Selling strategies for various markets
19:02 - Van lifestyle and work flexibility
19:40 - Solitude and work productivity
22:28 - Differentiation in sales strategies
24:08 - Industry trends and pitfalls in following crowds
25:30 - Conscious capitalism and creating broader value
28:40 - Misconceptions about tech entrepreneurship
32:29 - Resilience and entrepreneurship from challenging backgrounds
34:19 - Shifts in labor costs and the impact on sales roles
37:04 - Strategies for effective sales processes
40:11 - Alignment of go-to-market motions with products
45:23 - Personalization and building relationships in sales
46:49 - Differentiating high-touch from high-volume business models
48:01 - Business model and its critical role in success
51:08 - AI's impact on sales roles and market transformation
55:22 - Resistance to AI and embracing its potential
58:01 - Skills and processes in modern sales
1:04:02 - Predicting the future of business and AI's role
1:07:14 - Shifts in buyer-seller dynamics and AI integration
1:09:04 - Creating a future with AI and maintaining balance
1:11:00 - Tailored questions and insightful discussions
1:14:23 - Subscription models and customer relationships
1:17:55 - The evolution of SaaS business models
1:24:01 - CROs and the focus on new acquisition versus retention
1:26:03 - Complexity of SaaS business models
1:30:01 - Professional services, acquisition, and retention strategies
1:32:43 - Key takeaways from the podcast
Stay connected with us:
👉 Jacco van der Kooij - LinkedIn
👉 Michael Maximoff - LinkedIn
👉 Michael’s newsletter “From Zero To Agency Hero” - From Zero To Agency Hero
👉 Belkins - LinkedIn
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