This conversation was pre-recorded and presented at Genspect's The Bigger Picture Conference, held 27–28 September 2025 in Albuquerque, New Mexico.

Abigail Shrier and Stella O'Malley discuss how therapy culture has gone wrong for young people—and what parents can do about it.

Shownotes: https://stellaomalley.substack.com/p/woke-eugenics-evolutionary-psychologist

https://stellaomalley.substack.com/p/the-biggest-scandal-since-lobotomies

Full shownotes: https://stellaomalley.substack.com/p/jamie-reed-i-thought-i-was-saving

Episode shownotes: https://stellaomalley.substack.com/p/when-therapists-arent-allowed-to-e32

This is our second interview with Dr. Paul McHugh - we sincerely apologize for mistakenly re-uploading the first interview last week.

She went from revolutionary communist to member of the House of Lords. From bankrupted magazine publisher to defender of free speech in Parliament. And now she’s watching the same patterns play out again – adults surrendering to emotional blackmail, institutions betraying the people they claim to protect, and an entire generation being told that if they don’t get what they want, it will destroy them.

Claire Fox, Baroness Fox of Buckley, has spent four decades fighting battles over speech, truth, and who gets to decide what’s best for other people.

In this second conversation with legendary psychiatrist Dr. Paul McHugh, hosts Stella and Mia speak with one of the most influential voices in the gender debate. At 94 years old, Dr. McHugh brings an unparalleled perspective, having witnessed the entire trajectory of medical transition from its earliest days to the present.

Dr. McHugh is University Distinguished Service Professor of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, where he served as Director of the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences from 1975 to 2001. His career has been marked by advocacy for evidence-based psychiatry and skepticism toward approaches lacking scientific rigor.

Professor Eric Kaufmann reveals why the progressive era that began in the 1960s is finally collapsing. This isn't just about "woke" culture - it's about the end of a 60-year ideological system that has shaped every major institution in the West.Key topics discussed:The "moral Big Bang" of the 1960s and how white guilt transformed American institutionsWhy affirmative action (1965-2025) and disparate impact doctrine are being dismantled after 60 yearsThe crucial distinction between "cultural socialism" and economic MarxismHow universities became ground zero for ideological captureCanada as a "woke theocracy" compared to the US and UKThe emerging battle between classical liberals and post-liberals on the rightProfessor Kaufmann's departure from Birkbeck after 20 years to found the Centre for Heterodox Social ScienceKaufmann traces the origins of today's culture wars back to the civil rights era, showing how ideas that emerged at Berkeley in the 1960s have now scaled up to dominate institutions. He provides historical context from Nixon's era through to Trump's executive orders, demonstrating that current political battles are actually about reversing policies that have been entrenched for over half a century.This conversation offers essential historical perspective on why Western societies are experiencing such dramatic political and cultural upheaval, and what might replace the progressive consensus.*Note: This conversation was recorded before Professor Kaufmann's October 2025 report "The Decline of Trans and Queer Identity among Young Americans" showing a dramatic drop in trans identification among youth. Read the full report: https://www.heterodoxcentre.com/resea...Eric Kaufmann (https://x.com/epkaufm) Professor of Politics, University of Buckingham Senior Fellow, Macdonald-Laurier Institute Author of extensive research on culture wars, populism, and political polarization

In 1975, Dr. Susan Bradley founded Toronto’s first gender clinic for children at the Clarke Institute of Psychiatry. For nearly five decades, she treated over 400 gender-dysphoric children and chaired the DSM-IV Subcommittee on Gender Identity Disorders. The pattern she observed was impossible to ignore: “Even the ones who’ve gone through some of this and come out in our clinic, they’re nearly all gay or lesbian.” Now, in her eighties, she’s speaking out about what went wrong.