Beyond the Deal

Beyond the Deal

By Michael WagmanBusinessInvesting
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Beyond the Deal episodes

  • The Numbers Behind Boutique Hotels (And Why They Beat Long-Term Rentals) with Tim Ensmann

    What happens when you leave a high-paying tech job, move across the country, and live in a spider-filled hotel just to get your dream off the ground?


    In this episode of Beyond the Deal, Michael sits down with real estate investor and operator Tim Ensmann, who shares how he went from corporate sales to building a thriving boutique hotel portfolio, starting with the bold decision to live on-site during a full renovation.


    Tim talks about:


    • The real numbers behind long-term rentals vs. boutique hotels
    • Why Airbnbs capped his potential and how hotels unlocked real value
    • The $20K booking that changed everything
    • Lessons learned from managing renovations, guest experiences, and investor capital
    • Scaling up without losing the magic of experience-first hospitality


    Whether you're a passive investor or an aspiring operator, this episode dives deep into what it really takes to build a hospitality brand from scratch and how to know when itโ€™s time to go all in.


    Follow the Host โ€“ Michael Wagman:

    ๐Ÿ”— LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelwagman/

    ๐Ÿ”— Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nimble_capital_group/

    ๐Ÿ”— Website: https://nimblecapitalgroup.com/


    Follow the Guest โ€“ Tim Ensmann

    ๐Ÿ”— LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tim-ensmann/


    Interested in learning how to raise capital and scale your business to build a lifestyle around freedom?

    ๐Ÿ‘‰ Schedule a call today and let's find out if you're a good fit for mentorship:

    https://calendly.com/mwagman/capital-coaching-exploration


    ๐Ÿ”ฅ Donโ€™t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with fellow LPs and real estate investors!



    28 min
  • Serial Entrepreneur Carson Jones: From Broke Marketing Startup to Real Estate Success (And the Red Flags to Avoid)

    In this episode of Beyond the Deal, Michael Wagman sits down with entrepreneur and author Carson Jones to talk about his unconventional journeyโ€”from broke and pitching marketing services door-to-door, to running restaurants, investing in oil and gas, and now thriving in real estate syndication and brokerage.


    Carson shares the hard-won lessons that inspired his new book, The Red Flag Playbook, a guide for passive investors on how to vet sponsors, understand deal assumptions, and avoid costly mistakes in real estate and beyond.


    They discuss:

    โœ… Why Carson left corporate America earlyโ€”and never looked back

    โœ… How his experience in the restaurant world shaped his business instincts

    โœ… What he learned (and lost) in oil and gas investing

    โœ… The red flags LPs miss when vetting syndications and operators

    โœ… How getting sober changed the way he handles entrepreneurial stress


    Whether youโ€™re an investor, operator, or simply navigating your own entrepreneurial path, this conversation is packed with honest reflections and practical insights you wonโ€™t want to miss.


    Follow the Host โ€“ Michael Wagman:

    ๐Ÿ”— LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelwagman/

    ๐Ÿ”— Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nimble_capital_group/

    ๐Ÿ”— Website: https://nimblecapitalgroup.com/


    Follow the Guest โ€“ Carson Jones

    ๐Ÿ”— LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carsonjones/


    Interested in learning how to raise capital and scale your business to build a lifestyle around freedom?

    ๐Ÿ‘‰ Schedule a call today and let's find out if you're a good fit for mentorship:

    https://calendly.com/mwagman/capital-coaching-exploration


    ๐Ÿ”ฅ Donโ€™t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with fellow LPs and real estate investors!



    23 min
  • Real Estate Strategies That Actually Work: 6 Entrepreneurs Share Their Best Tips

    In this special compilation episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman brings together insights from six real estate entrepreneurs whoโ€™ve mastered the art of buying, scaling, and managing real estate across different asset types.

    Youโ€™ll learn:
    โœ… How to spot hidden market gaps
    โœ… The power of exclusivity in acquisitions
    โœ… Creative ways to build community and boost tenant retention
    โœ… What makes a market worth investing in
    โœ… How to scale with boutique hotels and RV resorts
    โœ… Mindset and psychology tips for raising capital with confidence

    From on-the-ground due diligence to strategic renovations and community-first thinking, this episode is packed with tactical advice you can actually apply.

    Tune in and get the tools to think smarter, act bolder, and go beyond the deal.

    Follow the Host โ€“ Michael Wagman:
    ๐Ÿ”— LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelwagman/
    ๐Ÿ”— Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nimble_capital_group/
    ๐Ÿ”— Website: https://nimblecapitalgroup.com/

    Follow the Guests:
    Tyler Harding:
    ๐Ÿ”— LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tyler-harding-89960b84/
    Cyndee Harding
    ๐Ÿ”— LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cyndee-harding-01a15ab/
    Jacobo Hernandez:
    ๐Ÿ”— https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacobo-hernandez-747299128/
    Guy Salani:
    ๐Ÿ”— https://www.linkedin.com/in/guy-michael-s/
    Brad Blazar:
    ๐Ÿ”— https://www.linkedin.com/in/bradblazar/
    Zander Kempf
    ๐Ÿ”— https://clearsummitinvestments.com/

    Interested in learning how to raise capital and scale your business to build a lifestyle around freedom?
    ๐Ÿ‘‰ Schedule a call today and let's find out if you're a good fit for mentorship:
    https://calendly.com/mwagman/capital-coaching-exploration

    ๐Ÿ”ฅ Donโ€™t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with fellow LPs and real estate investors!

    28 min
  • How We Got 50% of Our Deal Subscribed on Day One Under Contract

    In this episode of Beyond the Deal, Michael sits down with his former student turned deal partner, Jacobo Hernandez, to share the story behind their newest acquisition, a 59-unit motel in Eureka Springs, Arkansas that theyโ€™re converting into a boutique hotel.


    They break down:

    โœ”๏ธ How they found the deal after reviewing 2,000+ properties

    โœ”๏ธ Why baby boomer-owned commercial assets are a goldmine

    โœ”๏ธ The power of seller financing (and how they secured 100% of it)

    โœ”๏ธ Raising capital before you even have a deal

    โœ”๏ธ Lessons learned from a painful contract negotiation


    If you're an aspiring real estate investor, capital raiser, or boutique hotel operator, this episode offers a rare look behind the curtain of what it really takes to get a deal like this done.


    Want a deeper look at this project and how we structure our deals?
    ย ๐Ÿ“„ View the Pitch Deck - https://thespringsretreat.site/

    Curious about our vision for The Springs Retreat?
    ย ๐ŸŽฅ Watch the Webinar - https://thespringsretreat.space/webinar/#vision


    Follow the Host โ€“ Michael Wagman:

    ๐Ÿ”— LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelwagman/

    ๐Ÿ”— Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nimble_capital_group/

    ๐Ÿ”— Website: https://nimblecapitalgroup.com/


    Follow the Guest โ€“ Jacobo Hernandez:

    ๐Ÿ”— https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacobo-hernandez-747299128/


    Interested in learning how to raise capital and scale your business to build a lifestyle around freedom?

    ๐Ÿ‘‰ Schedule a call today and let's find out if you're a good fit for mentorship:

    https://calendly.com/mwagman/capital-coaching-exploration


    ๐Ÿ”ฅ Donโ€™t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with fellow LPs and real estate investors!



    33 min
  • We Bought a Dead Commercial Property. Here's What Happened Next.

    In this special behind-the-scenes episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman is joined by his business partner Mike Angelo to break down one of their most unique projects to date: transforming a neglected warehouse in Casa Grande, Arizona into a thriving entertainment and retail hub called The Terminal.

    They walk through:
    โœ… How they discovered the opportunity during a multifamily development trip
    โœ… Why Casa Grande is a sleeper market with serious growth potential
    โœ… The difference between ground-up development and redevelopment
    โœ… How they secured 100% owner financing
    โœ… The financial model behind triple net retail
    โœ… The biggest challenges they faced (and how they solved them)

    Whether you're a multifamily investor curious about retail, or just want to hear what it actually takes to turn a vacant building into a community staple, this episode is packed with actionable insights and hard-earned lessons.

    Follow the Host โ€“ Michael Wagman:
    ๐Ÿ”— LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelwagman/
    ๐Ÿ”— Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nimble_capital_group/
    ๐Ÿ”— Website: https://nimblecapitalgroup.com/

    Follow the Guest โ€“ย  Mike Angelo
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikeaangelo/

    Interested in learning how to raise capital and scale your business to build a lifestyle around freedom?
    ๐Ÿ‘‰ Schedule a call today and let's find out if you're a good fit for mentorship:
    https://calendly.com/mwagman/capital-coaching-exploration

    22 min
  • Daily Habits That Keep Successful Entrepreneurs at Peak Performance

    In this special compilation episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman brings together six powerful voices sharing the real habits that keep them sharp, steady, and successful.


    From sleep routines and mindset rituals to social media limits, fitness commitments, and purposeful journaling, youโ€™ll hear the small daily decisions that create massive long-term impact. These arenโ€™t hacks, theyโ€™re sustainable practices that help entrepreneurs manage stress, protect their energy, and stay aligned with what matters most.


    If youโ€™re looking to upgrade your habits and build a life that supports your ambition, this episode is packed with real-life inspiration and actionable takeaways.


    Follow the Host โ€“ Michael Wagman:

    ๐Ÿ”— LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelwagman/

    ๐Ÿ”— Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nimble_capital_group/

    ๐Ÿ”— Website: https://nimblecapitalgroup.com/


    Follow the Guests:

    Jacobo Hernandez:

    ๐Ÿ”— https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacobo-hernandez-747299128/

    Alice Chen:

    ๐Ÿ”— https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliceychen/

    Jay Bourgana:

    ๐Ÿ”— https://www.linkedin.com/in/jay-bourgana/

    Kaaren Hall:
    ๐Ÿ”— https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaarenhall/

    Pat Zingarella:

    ๐Ÿ”— https://www.linkedin.com/in/pasqualezingarella/

    Keshav Kolur

    ๐Ÿ”—https://www.linkedin.com/in/keshavkolur/


    Interested in learning how to raise capital and scale your business to build a lifestyle around freedom?

    ๐Ÿ‘‰ Schedule a call today and let's find out if you're a good fit for mentorship:

    https://calendly.com/mwagman/capital-coaching-exploration


    ๐Ÿ”ฅ Donโ€™t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode.



    22 min
  • How These 5 Real Estate Entrepreneurs Got Started (Real Stories, Real Results)

    In this special compilation episode of Beyond the Deal, we bring you five powerful origin stories from real estate entrepreneurs who took very different paths, but all ended up building a business in real estate.


    From gut-wrenching personal loss to casual curiosity, each guest reveals the pivotal moment that made them rethink their future and take the leap. Youโ€™ll hear from:


    • A former car dealership owner who redefined his life after a series of family tragedies
    • A physical therapist who found financial freedom after his fatherโ€™s passing shifted his mindset
    • A capital raiser who accidentally discovered her calling in investor relations
    • A military officer who turned a hobby into a full-time real estate development business
    • A newlywed who lost $60K on his first deal and still built a 900+ unit portfolio


    Whether youโ€™re stuck in analysis paralysis or just waiting for the โ€œright moment,โ€ these stories prove thereโ€™s no one way to begin, just your way.


    Youโ€™ll Learn:

    • Why emotional clarity often comes before financial clarity
    • How different backgrounds (healthcare, military, marketing) can fuel real estate success
    • The power of starting small, failing forward, and finding the right mentors


    Follow the Host โ€“ Michael Wagman:

    ๐Ÿ”— LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelwagman/

    ๐Ÿ”— Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nimble_capital_group/

    ๐Ÿ”— Website: https://nimblecapitalgroup.com/



    Follow the Guests:

    Zander Kempf

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexanderkempf/


    Eric Tomei

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-tomei-1698664


    Lauren Brychell:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauren-brychell-capital-raise-consulting/


    Joshua Ferrari:ย 

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuaferrari/


    Alan Underwood:ย 

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/the-alan-underwood/



    Interested in learning how to raise capital and scale your business to build a lifestyle around freedom?

    ๐Ÿ‘‰ Schedule a call today and let's find out if you're a good fit for mentorship:

    https://calendly.com/mwagman/capital-coaching-exploration


    ๐Ÿ”ฅ Donโ€™t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with fellow LPs and real estate investors!



    21 min
  • How Cyndee Harding Stepped Into Asset Management to Safeguard Investor Returns

    In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Cyndee Harding, a capital raiser who discovered her true calling in asset management. After helping raise over $5 million in her first year, Cyndee realized the real challenge wasnโ€™t just getting into dealsโ€”it was managing them responsibly after the close.


    She shares how stepping into asset management gave her a deeper sense of purpose, what it really takes to protect investor capital, and why she believes this side of the business is too often overlooked. Cyndee also talks about navigating partnerships, recognizing red flags, and how she learned to speak up and lead behind the scenes.


    If youโ€™ve ever focused solely on acquisition or capital raising, this episode will open your eyes to the importanceโ€”and impactโ€”of strong asset management.


    ๐ŸŽฏ Key Takeaways:

    โœ… Why asset management is critical for long-term investor trust

    โœ… How Cyndee approached her first asset management role without prior experience

    โœ… The importance of speaking up when something feels off

    โœ… What to look for in partners beyond the pitch deck

    โœ… Why managing the deal after the close matters just as much as raising for it


    Follow the Host โ€“ Michael Wagman:

    ๐Ÿ”— LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelwagman/

    ๐Ÿ”— Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nimble_capital_group/

    ๐Ÿ”— Website: https://nimblecapitalgroup.com/


    Follow the Guest โ€“ Cyndee Harding

    ๐Ÿ”— LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cyndee-harding-01a15ab/


    Interested in learning how to raise capital and scale your business to build a lifestyle around freedom?

    ๐Ÿ‘‰ Schedule a call today and let's find out if you're a good fit for mentorship:

    https://calendly.com/mwagman/capital-coaching-exploration


    ๐Ÿ”ฅ Donโ€™t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with fellow LPs and real estate investors!



    29 min
  • How a Single Mom of Three Built Her Future Through Real Estate with Sylvia Khoury

    In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Sylvia Khoury, a single mother of three who turned to real estate to support her familyโ€”while caring for her terminally ill parents and navigating a demanding pharmacy career.

    Sylvia shares how she transitioned from buying rental homes to investing in multifamily properties, why COVID exposed the fragility of her income, and how she made her first deal using her retirement funds. She also explains how starting as an LP made her a better GPโ€”and why trust, conservative underwriting, and communication are non-negotiable.

    This conversation is an inspiring look at resilience, resourcefulness, and redefining what's possible when life forces you to pivot.

    ๐ŸŽฏ Key Takeaways:
    โœ… Why single-family rentals werenโ€™t enough for long-term stability
    โœ… How she made the leap into multifamily (and what went wrong on her first deal)
    โœ… The role of mindset, mentorship, and networking in accelerating her success
    โœ… What she looks for (and avoids) when reviewing deals as a capital raiser
    โœ… How she juggles parenting, pharmacy, and real estateโ€”all at once

    Follow the Host โ€“ Michael Wagman:
    ๐Ÿ”— LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelwagman/
    ๐Ÿ”— Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nimble_capital_group/
    ๐Ÿ”— Website: https://nimblecapitalgroup.com/

    Follow the Guest โ€“ย  Sylvia Khoury
    ๐Ÿ”— LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sylvia-khoury-88205948/

    Interested in learning how to raise capital and scale your business to build a lifestyle around freedom?
    ๐Ÿ‘‰ Schedule a call today and let's find out if you're a good fit for mentorship:
    https://calendly.com/mwagman/capital-coaching-exploration

    ๐Ÿ”ฅ Donโ€™t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with fellow LPs and real estate investors!

    17 min
  • SEO, Self-Belief, and Scaling Up: A Deep Dive with Brian Dordevic

    In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Brian Dordevic, an immigrant from Serbia who went from earning $4/hour as a virtual assistant to leading a 20+ person SEO team in the U.S.


    Brian shares his incredible journey, from working in South Side Chicago to building a thriving business that helps local service providers dominate Google search. But this conversation goes far beyond SEO. Brian opens up about the power of belief, learning how to remove bottlenecks (including himself), and why hustle culture might be the biggest trap for entrepreneurs.


    If you're building a team, scaling a business, or struggling with burnout, Brian's story will hit home.


    ย Key Takeaways:

    โœ… Why self-belief and energy can change your trajectory

    โœ… How to structure your business to buy back your time

    โœ… The pitfalls of hustle culture and how to build calm clarity

    โœ… What makes good SEO content in an AI-saturated world

    โœ… The role of manifestation and mindset in long-term success


    Follow the Host โ€“ Michael Wagman:

    ๐Ÿ”— LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelwagman/

    ๐Ÿ”— Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nimble_capital_group/

    ๐Ÿ”— Website: https://nimblecapitalgroup.com/


    Follow the Guest โ€“ย  Brian Dordevic

    ๐Ÿ”— LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/briandecoded/


    Interested in learning how to raise capital and scale your business to build a lifestyle around freedom?

    ๐Ÿ‘‰ Schedule a call today and let's find out if you're a good fit for mentorship:

    https://calendly.com/mwagman/capital-coaching-exploration


    ๐Ÿ”ฅ Donโ€™t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with fellow LPs and real estate investors!



    29 min

About Beyond the Deal

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Beyond the Deal is podcast hosted by Michael Wagman. He has created a life of freedom and travel using passive income generated through real estate investing and raising capital. In this podcastโ€ฆ