One of the on-going themes with Wine Talks, with virtually all guests, is the idea that you never stop learning in the wine trade. I supposed you could say that about many industries, but wine carries with it the idea of the harvest; the surrounding conditions that otherwise would be called "terroir" when discussing the differences from one year to the next. And there in lies the "never stop learning" aspect of wine. Each year is different and each your your knowledge and curiosity is compounded.

Tony Biagi relishes in this concept. He finds the will and the drive directly from the annual but perrenial unkowns when the next harvest arrives. We had an inspiring conversation at the Robert Mondavi tasting room in downtown Napa (a must stop when visiting).

ony Biagi might claim his parents thought he was crazy for joining the wine world, but on this episode, it's clear that his unique path—from wrestling recruit to celebrated Napa winemaker—brings bold insight to every bottle he touches. You'll walk away with a fresh perspective on what really makes a wine legendary—not just the soil or variety, but the relentless curiosity and humility of those who tend the vines. Listen as Tony wrestles with the legacy of To Kalon, Napa's most storied vineyard, unraveling its mysteries alongside Paul Kalemkiarian. You'll learn how American and French traditions collide in the heart of California, why the freedom to experiment drives vintners across the Atlantic to our shores, and how the "Burgundianization" of Napa reflects a deeper search for identity and place. Tony lays bare the tension between making wine for the critics versus crafting honest, vintage-driven wines—the kind that can never quite be replicated and, like a great song or timeless meal, stir something primal in us all. Hear the unvarnished truth about organic farming, weathering adversity like wildfires, and how a single harvest offers but one shot each year to get it right. Find out why the energy in a morning vineyard or the quiet wisdom of mentors shapes every glass, and discover how genuine hospitality—not snobbery—keeps the wine world alive. By the end, you'll possess an insider's grasp of not only To Kalon's rarefied terroir and innovative spirit, but the soulful alchemy that endlessly draws winemakers and drinkers back to the table.

1. Robert Mondavi Winery (owners of part of To Kalon Vineyard) Website: https://www.robertmondaviwinery.com

2. Ridge Vineyards Website: https://www.ridgewine.com

3. Ravenswood Winery Website: https://www.ravenswoodwinery.com

4. PlumpJack Winery Website: https://www.plumpjackwinery.com

5. Duckhorn Vineyards Website: https://www.duckhorn.com

6. Hourglass Wine Company Website: https://www.hourglasswines.com

7. Cade Estate Winery Website: https://www.cadewinery.com

8. Chateau Cheval Blanc Website: https://www.chateau-cheval-blanc.com/en/

9. Harlan Estate Website: https://www.harlanestate.com

10. Staglin Family Vineyard Website: https://www.staglinfamily.com

11. Domaine Leflaive Website: https://www.domainedeflaive.com/en/

12. Dalla Valle Vineyards Website: https://www.dallavallevineyards.com

13. Turley Wine Cellars Website: https://www.turleywinecellars.com

14. Terravox (Missouri) Website: https://www.terravox.wine

15. Wine Spectator (wine magazine frequently cited) Website: https://www.winespectator.com

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