Bitcoin for Millennials

Julian Figueroa is a filmmaker, Bitcoin educator, YouTuber, and cofounder of getBased.tv, known for creating engaging, approachable content that demystifies Bitcoin for a broad audience with clarity and creativity.

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🕑 TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro00:46 - Why telling people about Bitcoin never works01:06 - Julian's journey: Losing his Bitcoin03:59 - Bitcoin as the cure for a broken system05:27 - Becoming the "Bill Nye of Bitcoin"07:53 - Understanding 5 mindsets for Bitcoin adoption08:18 - Archetype 1: The Normie10:33 - The best strategy for the Normie14:04 - Why you must earn the right to talk about Bitcoin16:04 - Archetype 2: The Ideologue17:03 - "Save your breath" with the Ideologue23:04 - Archetype 3: The Mid-Curve26:45 - Disarming the Mid-Curve32:00 - Archetype 4: The Skeptic36:21 - Why to bring a skeptic to a Bitcoin meetup37:51 - Archetype 5: The 90-Percenter41:35 - How early are we?45:41 - Kicking the can: Why fiat's demise will be prolonged48:58 - The biggest threat: Boredom and lack of patience53:48 - Advice for new content creator59:36 - Julian's core belief

ℹ️ EPISODE SUMMARY

Bram Kanstein and Julian Figueroa explore how five distinct archetypes react to Bitcoin. This episode dives into the distinct mindsets of the Normie, Ideologue, Midcurve, Skeptic, and 90 Percenter, revealing why many struggle to understand or commit to Bitcoin. Gain insight into the psychological and cultural barriers around Bitcoin adoption, and learn practical ways to engage each archetype more effectively. Whether you’re new to Bitcoin or seeking deeper understanding, this conversation uncovers what it really takes to turn awareness into conviction and long-term belief in the future of decentralized money.

Jeff Walton is the Chief Risk Officer at Strive ($ASST), where he builds digital credit products that give institutions Bitcoin exposure. His work sits at the forefront of industrializing the speculative attack on the dollar.

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00:00 - The speculative attack on the dollar: Pierre Rochard's thesis

03:47 - Why corporations borrow weak fiat to buy strong Bitcoin

07:22 - Real estate vs. Bitcoin: leveraging a hard asset

09:37 - Why 98% of people won't self-custody Bitcoin

11:34 - Structuring Bitcoin exposure with less volatility

14:00 - The concept of Bitcoin volatility insurance

15:59 - The insurance analogy: underwriting risk with a pile of capital

18:43 - Why Bitcoin-backed products beat Oracle's 40-year bond

27:47 - The bank business model vs. the Bitcoin model

34:05 - Perpetual preferred equity vs. convertible debt (SEDA)

46:29 - The addressable market: Insurance companies' capital structure

56:01 - Why regulators prevent insurance companies from holding Bitcoin

01:13:12 - Bitcoin as the new global hurdle rate for capital

01:27:36 - The Millennial problem: no pension, no safety net

01:45:16 - Why Bitcoin must become the unit of account

ℹ️ EPISODE SUMMARY

Strive CRO Jeff Walton joins Bram Kanstein and breaks down how the speculative attack on the dollar is accelerating using Bitcoin-backed financial products. He explains how instruments like perpetual preferred equity (Strive’s SATA and Strategy’s STRC) allow massive pools of TradFi capital—like insurance companies—to gain exposure to Bitcoin’s appreciation without suffering 80% volatility. This engine converts cheap fiat debt into hard Bitcoin. We discuss the concept of Bitcoin as the new global hurdle rate and why risk is currently mispriced globally

Scott Ellam embodies the evolution from anonymous Bitcoin advocate to corporate leader ready to stake his company's future on Bitcoin.

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🕑 TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Scott's Journey into Bitcoin

09:19 - Transitioning to Bitcoin on the Balance Sheet

15:58 - Bitcoin as a Long-Term Business Strategy

22:36 - Creating Competitive Advantage with Bitcoin

27:40 - Building Bridges for Bitcoin Maximalists

30:31 - Building a Bitcoin-Centric Business Model

32:48 - Navigating Bitcoin's Volatility and Public Perception

35:21 - The Importance of Education in Bitcoin Adoption

39:09 - The Role of Leadership in Bitcoin Strategy

43:51 - Lessons Learned and Advice for Entrepreneurs

ℹ️ EPISODE SUMMARY

Bram Kanstein and Scott Ellam discuss Scott’s transformative journey into Bitcoin, detailing how it shifted from a personal interest to a strategic business decision. He discusses the challenges and triumphs of integrating Bitcoin into his company's balance sheet, the importance of educating his team, and the potential for Bitcoin to serve as a competitive advantage in talent acquisition. Scott emphasizes the need for businesses to adapt to a Bitcoin standard and reflects on the lessons learned throughout his entrepreneurial journey.

Lawrence Lepard is a professional investment manager and author of “The Big Print”. James Lavish is Managing Partner at the Bitcoin Opportunity Fund. Both are vocal advocates for Bitcoin's transformative potential of finance.

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🕑 TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Introduction: The Macro Thesis Is Accelerating00:53 - OG Selling Broke The 4-Year Cycle07:32 - Bitcoin Is The Liquidity Fire Alarm08:47 - The Fed Is Trapped: Big Print Is Certain11:39 - The Catastrophic Seizure of Russian Treasuries14:45 - Gold Is A Bond, Bitcoin Is Growth Equity18:37 - The Warning on Bitcoin Treasury Stocks25:31 - Why Hardest Money Always Wins34:25 - It's A Trend, Not A Trade36:51 - How To Handle Bitcoin Volatility42:47 - Who Is Buying The OG Bitcoin Supply?48:28 - The Trigger Event: Feels Like Summer '0851:11 - The Debt Spiral & The Egg Toss Analogy01:00:42 - Positioning for The Bitcoin Standard01:08:41 - How The Elites Colluded on Money01:12:56 - The Revenge of the True Bitcoiner01:19:38 - Why The Fed Will Run It Hot Next Year01:24:06 - Wisdom for Millennials & Gen Z

ℹ️ EPISODE SUMMARY

Lawrence Lepard and James Lavish join Bram Kanstein again on the podcast to decode the current strange market sentiment despite an accelerating macro environment. They reveal that recent Bitcoin price action is driven by significant "OG selling" and liquidity draining, signaling a pre-event tightening in the system. Lawrence explains the key difference: gold is sniffing out monetary debasement, while Bitcoin is the perfect "liquidity fire alarm" reacting to what the system cannot print anymore. Both guests agree the Fed is trapped and another massive "big print" is mathematically certain, which will eventually force a historic, non-temporary monetary shift. This certainty means Bitcoin isn't a trade but a long-term position in a debasement trend that will see it eventually reprice the entire monetary order.

Tyler and Cameron Winklevoss are billionaire entrepreneurs and the co-founders of Gemini. They famously invested $11 million in Bitcoin when it was widely dismissed.

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ℹ️ EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode, Bram Kanstein talks with Tyler and Cameron Winklevoss, who share the story behind their bold $11 million bet on Bitcoin over a decade ago—when almost everyone called it a fad. We explore their unique athlete-driven mindset, how they convinced billionaires to embrace the crypto revolution, and why they believe Bitcoin is the “Gold 2.0” with the potential to reach $1,000,000 per coin. Tune in for exclusive insights on the challenges ahead, the psychology of Bitcoin’s scarcity, and some surprising contrarian views that could change how you see digital assets forever.

Ioni Appelberg is a medical doctor, psychonaut, Bitcoin philosopher, and author blending sci-fi, psychedelics, and futurism to explore money, consciousness, awakening and moving into new paradigms through Bitcoin.

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ℹ️ EPISODE SUMMARY

Bram Kanstein and Joni Appelberg explore the profound connections between Bitcoin, psychedelics, and consciousness. They discuss how millennials are uniquely positioned to understand Bitcoin, the role of the ego in shaping our perceptions, and the importance of money in civilization. The dialogue delves into the nature of reality, paradigm shifts, and the fight for freedom against oppressive systems. Ultimately, they highlight the transformative potential of both Bitcoin and psychedelics in revealing hidden truths and breaking free from societal constraints. They discuss:

• Why Bitcoin is like a psychedelic for the economic mind
• How fiat money suppresses truth and spiritual growth
• The parallels between plant medicine and monetary revolution
• What it means to truly decentralize trust—and consciousnessThis isn’t about price charts. It’s about inner transformation, and how Bitcoin might help catalyze a new era of human freedom.

Fiachra "Figs" O'Sullivan is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, and Bitcoin maximalist. His unique perspective bridges the psychology of human connection with the psychology of monetary awakening and exploring how pain drives transformation in both domains.

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🕑 TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Reconnecting Through Bitcoin02:15 - Pain and Transformation: The Journey to Bitcoin07:44 - Shame and the Fiat System12:43 - The Emotional Journey of Adoption19:28 - The Challenge of Orange Pilling27:00 - Bitcoin as a Source of Hope36:20 - Navigating Doubts and Cynicism42:27 - Understanding Financial Shame50:49 - The Power of Acceptance57:44 - The Emotional Technology of Bitcoin01:04:50 - Building a Foundation of Trust01:11:44 - The Journey of Self-Discovery01:17:33 - Core Beliefs and Human Connection

ℹ️ EPISODE SUMMARY

Bram Kanstein and Figs O’Sullivan discuss the emotional and psychological aspects of adopting Bitcoin, exploring themes of pain, shame, and transformation. They emphasize the importance of validation and empathy in conversations about Bitcoin, as well as the challenges of 'orange pilling' others. The discussion highlights how Bitcoin can serve as a source of hope and sovereignty, encouraging self-discovery and personal growth. Figs shares his journey as a therapist and how his understanding of Bitcoin has influenced his perspective on relationships and financial systems.

Imrich "Imo" Bábics is Chief Growth and CMO at Relai, the Swiss Bitcoin-only app that's become Europe's fastest-growing fintech with over 500K downloads and $1 billion in trading volume.

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🕑 TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Introduction to Immo Babic and Relay

00:53 - Immo's Journey into Bitcoin and Crypto

03:45 - The Evolution of Bitcoin's Perception

08:02 - Understanding Bitcoin vs. Crypto Gambling

10:58 - The Role of Education in Bitcoin Adoption

14:05 - Bitcoin's Place in the Financial System

18:03 - Building a Bitcoin-Only Company

20:54 - Self-Custody and User Responsibility

25:07 - The Future of Banking and Bitcoin Integration

39:27 - Embracing Change in the Financial Landscape

48:18 - Cultural Differences in Investment Mindsets

01:00:06 - The Role of Regulation in Bitcoin Adoption

01:08:16 - Personal Growth Through the Bitcoin Journey

ℹ️ EPISODE SUMMARY

Bram Kanstein and Imo Bábics discuss Imo’s journey into Bitcoin—starting in 2017, getting wrecked, and slowly building the kind of conviction that lasts. He shares lessons from working at both Bitpanda and Relay, and how his perspective shifted from short-term trading to long-term saving. They explore the tension of growing a Bitcoin-only business in a crypto-driven world, why trust is everything in this space, and how banks are already—sometimes unknowingly—accelerating Bitcoin adoption. Imo also dives into the role of regulation in Europe and why clarity is critical for serious builders. This is a conversation about mindset, conviction, and what Bitcoin teaches you after the hype fades.

Dennis Dioukarev is a Swedish Parliament Member since 2014 (youngest ever at 21). He sits on the finance committee and advocating for Sweden to develop a strategic national Bitcoin reserve.

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🕑 TIMESTAMPS

00:00 – How Dennis discovered Bitcoin

01:58 – Why Bitcoin isn’t a bubble

05:35 – Central banks: blind to what’s coming

07:25 – Why Dennis proposed a national Bitcoin reserve

09:58 – Sweden’s Bitcoin seminar in Parliament

13:20 – Shocking response from the central bank

15:55 – The CBDC problem: e-krona risks

19:12 – What if Sweden does nothing?

21:45 – Why Bitcoin is essential to own

24:03 – Political resistance + misunderstanding

27:30 – How Bitcoin fits into long-term strategy

31:48 – Orange-pilling in politics

36:12 – Final thoughts on adoption urgency

ℹ️ EPISODE SUMMARY

Bram Kanstein and Swedish Member of Parliament Dennis Dioukarev discuss why Dennis believes Bitcoin is now a national strategic asset. They talk about the push for a government Bitcoin reserve, the surprising ignorance from central banks, and why Sweden risks falling behind as this monetary shift accelerates. Dennis breaks down how Bitcoin fits into long-term geopolitical and financial strategy, why the e-krona CBDC is dangerous, and the surprising reactions he got after proposing Bitcoin in Parliament. If you want to understand how Bitcoin is entering real politics—this conversation shows what that looks like behind the scenes.

Bitcoin Katie has rapidly emerged as one of the most compelling voices in Bitcoin education, specifically targeting Gen X-ers and pre-internet era demographics with clear, jargon-free content.

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🕑 TIMESTAMPS00:00 - Introduction to Bitcoin Katie

01:07 - The Celsius Collapse Experience

06:12 - Transitioning to Bitcoin

10:00 - Philosophical Shift Towards Bitcoin

14:08 - The Importance of Self-Sovereignty

19:00 - Decentralization and Personal Responsibility & Critique of Centralized Systems

23:15 - Opportunity Cost and Financial Awareness

23:58 - Personal Financial Philosophy and Home Ownership

28:30 - Understanding Bitcoin's Value and Market Cycles

30:24 - The Importance of Financial Education and Awareness

33:09 - The Reality of Currency Collapse and Economic Stability

39:30 - Women in Bitcoin: Breaking Barriers and Overcoming Fear

45:07 - Balancing Education and Accessibility in Bitcoin Content

53:04 - Core Beliefs: Independence from Centralized Systems

ℹ️ EPISODE SUMMARY

Bram Kanstein and Bitcoin Katie discuss Katie’s journey into the world of Bitcoin, detailing her experiences with the Celsius collapse and how it shaped her understanding of cryptocurrency. She discusses the philosophical shift that occurred as she transitioned from viewing Bitcoin as an investment to embracing it as a lifestyle and a means of financial independence. The conversation also touches on the importance of self-sovereignty, the challenges of educating others about Bitcoin, and the need for more women to engage in the Bitcoin space. Katie emphasizes the significance of understanding financial crises and the risks associated with fiat systems, advocating for a decentralized approach to finance and education.