Matt Cole managed a $70 billion Treasury portfolio, had direct access to the Fed and Treasury during QE, called them out for lying about debt monetization to their faces, and then put his entire net worth into Bitcoin. Now as CEO of Strive, he's building what he believes will become a multi-trillion dollar market in digital credit - products like SEDA and STRC that survived a 50% Bitcoin crash with barely a scratch. In this conversation, he breaks down why preferred equity beats convertible debt, how institutions actually want more volatility not less, why most Bitcoin treasury companies launched with no plan and are already selling, and the coming wave of consolidation that will separate the true believers from the tourists.

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