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As profitability tightens and competition soars, many Bitcoin mining companies are turning to artificial intelligence and high-performance computing (HPC) to stay relevant. In this week’s Bits + Bips, host Steve Ehrlich sits down with John Todaro, Managing Director, Crypto & HPC/AI Equity Research at Needham & Company, and Kevin Dede, Senior Research Analyst at H.C. Wainwright, to unpack the pivot that’s reshaping an entire corner of the crypto industry.

They discuss how miners are courting AI clients, why Wall Street is suddenly valuing them like data infrastructure plays, and what this means for Bitcoin’s long-term security model. The conversation dives deep into hashprice trends, investor signals, power constraints, and whether these companies can truly deliver on the AI promise — or risk stretching too thin.

Guests:

Kevin Dede, Senior Research AnalystManaging Director of Equity Research at H.C. Wainwright

John Todaro, Managing Director, Crypto & HPC/AI Equity Research at Needham & CompanySenior Research Analyst at Needham & Company

Timestamps:

💡 0:00 Introduction

🏗️ 3:23 Why investors suddenly care about miners’ HPC capacity

📈 9:08 Why the Bitcoin Mining Index is outperforming BTC itself

🤖 12:49 Can AI demand really live up to the hype?

⚠️ 16:31 The red flags investors should be watching

💰 20:50 Why debt levels could make or break mining firms

🔄 23:14 Can miners truly pivot and deliver on the AI promise?

📊 29:42 Why hashprice is falling even as hashrate rises

🚀 34:02 The long-term potential for Bitcoin mining operations

🏦 42:07 Bitcoin miners vs. holding BTC on balance sheets

🇺🇸 51:10 The future of Bitcoin mining in the United States

🔁 57:08 Could miners pivot to securing other assets?

🧠 59:22 Should the U.S. government buy a stake in Bitcoin miners?

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