The Bitcoin Matrix

Bitcoin vs Real Estate with Leon Wankum


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In this episode, real estate expert Leon Wankum sits down with Cedric and delves into the transformative potential of Bitcoin in real estate.

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––– Chapters –––

00:00 – Intro

01:23 – Leon’s Story

05:44 – First Encounter with Bitcoin

08:23 – Bitcoin as Digital Real Estate

11:23 – Redefining Wealth

14:53 – Historical Link: Wealth & Real Estate

18:48 – Why Real Estate Fails as a Modern Store of Value

20:28 – Bitcoin Absorbing Real Estate Value

21:43 – Real Estate: Backbone of Today’s Financial System

23:08 – Bitcoin: Superior Collateral

25:23 – Applying Saylor’s Strategy to Real Estate

27:28 – Bitcoin as Digital Land

34:16 – Bitcoin: Closer to Land than Buildings

37:35 – Rise of Credit Dependency

41:13 – Innovation Driven by Sound Money

44:42 – Credit on a Bitcoin Standard

49:48 – Investing with Bitcoin as a Base

50:55 – Zombie Companies Explained

53:05 – Bitcoin: Pristine Collateral

59:56 – Volatility as a Feature

1:02:09 – Dual-Collateral Loans with Bitcoin

1:09:38 – Real Estate’s Social Challenges

1:17:53 – Addressing Rising Real Estate Prices

1:20:28 – Why Real Estate’s Nominal Value Will Keep Rising

1:23:00 – The Importance of Bitcoin’s Privacy

1:27:53 – Should Bitcoiners Invest in Real Estate?

1:31:53 – Bitcoin’s Unique Mobility

1:34:30 – Real Estate and Art: A Comparison

1:36:03 – Key Investment Principles

1:38:19 – Measuring Wealth in Bitcoin

1:43:53 – Risks of Owning MicroStrategy

1:49:03 – Bitcoin Mining’s Impact on Real Estate

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