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1967 IFBB Mr. World Rick Wayne joins the Bodybuilding Legends Podcast for Part Three of his interview. Rick is regarded as one of the best writers in the bodybuilding industry. He worked for Joe Weider's Muscle Builder and Flex Magazines for many years and he is the author of The Bodymen, Muscle Wars and the Three More Reps series of books. In addition, Rick was one of the best bodybuilders during the late 1960's and early 1970's, winning the 1967 IFBB Mr. World and placing high in many other top level competitions. In Part Three of his interview, Rick talks about the Arnold-Sergio rivalry, Joe Weider's relationship with Arnold, how Rick trained for his bodybuilding contests and his thoughts on Mike Mentzer, Bertil Fox, Serge Nubret, Frank Zane and Steve Reeves as well as his relationship with the eccentric Vince Gironda. At the end of the interview, host John Hansen reads the article "Now the Real Story of the '84 Mr. Olympia!" written by Rick Wayne for the March, 1985 issue of Flex Magazine.

Time Stamps:

3:47 - Emails from last week's show

9:30 - Start of the Rick Wayne, Part Three interview

10:00 - Who was better - Arnold or Sergio?

11:30 - Arnold guest posing in 1976

16:44 - Frank Zane

18:23 - Serge Nubret

19:35 - Group picture

24:00 - Steve Reeves

26:42 - Rick's singing career

28:55 - The end of the bodybuilding magazines

34:00 - Rick and Mohamed Makkawy

35:40 - Controversial quotes in Rick's articles

37:00 - Arnold's feelings about the 1980 Mr. Olympia

40:20 - Bertil Fox

44:15 - Mike Mentzer

45:05 - Rick's training methods

48:45 - 1970 IFBB Mr. World

50:10 - Kal Szkalak and the bodybuilder's union

56:00 - "Pumping Iron 2" and Cory Everson

59:00 - Vince's Gym

1:06:00 - O.J. Simpson and Robert Blake

1:09:30 - Host John Hansen reads the article "Now the Real Story of the '84 Mr. Olympia!" written by Rick Wayne for the March, 1985 issue of Flex Magazine.

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Rick Wayne, 1967 IFBB Mr. World, joins the Bodybuilding Legends Podcast for Part Two of his interview. Rick was one of the best writers in the bodybuilding industry. He wrote for Joe Weider's Muscle Builder and Flex Magazine during the Golden Era of Bodybuilding and is highly regarded as the best writer to write about bodybuilding. Rick was the author of the books The Bodymen, Muscle Wars and all three of the Three More Reps books. In Part Two of his interview, Rick talks about getting to know the real Arnold Schwarzenegger, the Sergio-Arnold feud, Sergio's comeback at the 1984 Mr. Olympia, Rick's injury before the 1976 Mr. Olympia and Rick's thoughts on the current state of Bodybuilding.

Time Stamps:

4:12 - Emails from last week's show

16:33 - Start of Rick Wayne interview, Part Two

17:38 - Who was the better bodybuilder - Sergio or Arnold?

21:45 - Sergio's comeback at the 1984 Mr. Olympia

24:22 - Sergio and Arnold backstage at the 1969 Mr. Olympia

29:10 - Conan is a Dog

34:52 - "Arnold: Saint or Devil" article

36:00 - Arnold and Kurt Waldheim

41:06 - Rick's neck injury before the 1976 Mr. Olympia

44:30 - Arnold's feud with Trump

49:30 - Are black bodybuilders being treated fairly?

56:00 - Sergio and Arnold at World's Gym

59:25 - Accusations of Arnold being racist

1:08:09 - When Bodybuilding was at it's best

1:11:40 - Women's Bodybuilding

1:15:56 - Host John Hansen reads the article "Arnold: Saint or Devil" written by Rick Wayne for the April, 1981 issue of Muscle & Fitness magazine.

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Rick Wayne, 1967 IFBB Mr. World, is the guest this week on the Bodybuilding Legends Podcast. Rick was also one of the best writers to write for Joe Weider's magazines Muscle Builder/Power and Flex for many years. Rick authored the books Muscle Wars, The Bodymen and all three of the Three More Reps books.  In Part One of his interview, Rick talks about how he started bodybuilding as a kid living in St. Lucia. Rick also tells some early stories of meeting Arnold Schwarzenegger at the 1966 NABBA Mr. Universe, working for Joe Weider as an editor of Muscle Builder/Power and Flex Magazine and the influence of the bodybuilding magazines during the Golden Age of the sport. After the interview with Rick Wayne, host John Hansen reads the article "The IFBB Celebrates a Super Anniversary" written by Rick Wayne from the April/May, 1971 issue of Muscle Builder Magazine. (Time Stamps below).

Time Stamps:

3:40 - Upcoming Seminar in Massachusetts

4:50 - Emails for the Podcast

8:05 - Start of interview with Rick Wayne, Part One

9:05 - How Rick got started in bodybuilding

17:10 - The bodybuilding writers who influenced Rick

20:45 - Jack Neary

21:44 - Joe Weider's impact on bodybuilding

30:00 - The articles in the bodybuilding magazines

37:40 - Arnold and Joe Weider

38:50 - When Rick first met Arnold in 1966

42:30 - Rick's commitment to bodybuilding

49:00 - Lou becoming the Hulk

52:30 - Was Arnold a racist?

54:10 - Getting anything you want out of life

55:47 - Rick's steroid use

58:30 - Arnold's biography

1:01:30 - Writing in the first person

1:07:40 - John Hansen reads the article "The IFBB Celebrates a Super Anniversary" written by Rick Wayne from the April/May, 1971 issue of Muscle Builder magazine.

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1960 AAU Mr. America winner Red Lerille joins the Bodybuilding Legends Podcast to talk about his career in bodybuilding. Red won the 1960 AAU Mr. America and then won his height class at the 1960 NABBA Mr. Universe. Red became a gym owner after his bodybuilding career ended and he now owns Red Lerille's Health and Racquet Club in Lafayette, Louisiana, one of the biggest gyms in the country. Red was also a mentor to the legendary bodybuilder Boyer Coe and he talks about his relationship with Boyer over his great career. At the end of the Podcast, host John Hansen reads the article "How I Became a Mr. America" by Lloyd Lerille from the July-August, 1960 issue of IronMan Magazine. (Time Stamps below)

Time Stamps:

1:50 - Pro Physique weekend in Denver

5:05 - Emails from last week's show

10:00 - Start of interview with Red Lerille

10:55 - Red's last visit with Bill Pearl

13:25 - How Red got started in bodybuilding

14:40 - What Bodybuilding was like in the 1940's

16:15 - Winning the Mr. Orleans contest

18:30 - Red's genetics for bodybuilding

19:16 - Joe Gold's gym in New Orleans

20:00 - Red's early contest wins

21:20 - Bodybuilding training while serving in the Navy

23:00 - The original Muscle Beach

25:50 - Red's memories of Bill Pearl

27:27 - Competing in the AAU Mr. America

33:50 - The 1960 NABBA Mr. Universe in London

38:10 - Mentoring Boyer Coe

40:47 - How Red got involved in the gym business

44:23 - Red's current workout routine at 86 years old

47:30 - Red's Gym

52:00 - Bodybuilding today

52:45 - Casey Viator

56:10 - Host John Hansen reads the article "How I Became a Mr. America" written by Lloyd "Red" Lerille from the July-August, 1960 issue of IronMan Magazine.

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Mr. America, Mr. Universe and Mr. World Boyer Coe and 2x Middleweight Mr. America champion Richard Baldwin offer their thoughts and memories of the great Bill Pearl who passed away on September 14th at the age of 91. At the end of the podcast, host John Hansen reads the article "The Bill Pearl Story" written by George Coates for the March, 1972 issue of IronMan Magazine. (Time Stamps below)

Time Stamps:

4:00 - Writing Bodybuilding History

8:25 - Beginning of interview with Boyer Coe and Richard Baldwin

9:22 - When Boyer Coe found out about Bill Pearl

12:21 - Richard talks about meeting Bill Pearl

14:10 - What Bill Pearl will be remembered for

17:10 - When Bill Pearl guest posed in 1971

19:52 - Bill Pearl's posing

22:30 - Bodybuilding isn't just about size

24:40 - Sergio Oliva in 1966

28:30 - Harold Poole in the Mr. America contest

31:00 - Arthur Jones and Bill Pearl

36:00 - The integrity of the NABBA Mr. Universe

38:54 - Winning the Mr. America and Mr. Universe the same year

41:55 - When Bill Pearl guest posed at the 1978 Mr. America

44:25 - Bill Pearl's strongman act

45:52 - Bill's older brother Harold

49:00 - The champions who Bill trained

52:00 - Richard's messages from Bill toward the end

54:43 - Boyer's tattoo

57:20 - John Hansen reads the article "The Bill Pearl Story" written by George Coates from the March, 1972 issue of IronMan Magazine.

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Tom Muscolino took 2nd place in the 1969 AAU Teenage Mr. America as well as competing in the 1969 Jr. Mr. America and 1970 Mr. America. Tom talks about the state of bodybuilding in the 1960's and how the competitions were judged back then. Growing up in Chicago, Tom also had a chance to train at the famous Duncan YMCA during the 60's and he was able to watch Sergio train at his peak. Tom tells the stories of watching Sergio win the Mr. Olympia contest in New York from 1967-1969 and losing the Olympia to Arnold in 1970. At the end of the podcast, host John Hansen reads the introduction to Bill Pearl's book Getting Stronger in which Bill tells the story of how he started bodybuilding. (Time Stamps below)

Time Stamps:

1:49 - Bill Pearl passes away

7:20 - Roger Schwab's tribute to Bill Pearl

14:04 - Emails from last week's show

16:20 - Start of interview with Tom Muscolino

18:00 - When Tom first started training in bodybuilding

22:50 - Training at the Duncan YMCA

25:04 - Watching Sergio train

28:50 - Competing in the '60's

32:00 - When Tom competed in the Teenage Mr. America

47:48 - Watching Sergio compete in the Mr. Olympia

1:00:31 - Competing in the 1969 AAU Mr. America

1:10:00 - Remembering Bill Pearl

1:20:12 - Host John Hansen reads Bill Pearl's Introduction to his book Getting Stronger

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Dave DeYoung, owner of the famous Quads Gym in Chicago, Illinois is joined by his long time friend Larry Bernstein, 1983 AAU Mr. America Short Class winner, to talk about Quads Gym and all the great bodybuilders who trained there over the last four decades. Dave talks about starting up Quads Gym with his partner Tom Milanovich, his memories of the great people he met during his years running the gym and some of the famous bodybuilders who trained at his gym. At the end of the interview, host John Hansen reads the article "Arnold As I Know Him" written by Frank Zane for the May, 1972 issue of IronMan Magazine. (Time Stamps below)

Time Stamps:

4:19 - Dad's 85th Birthday

4:53 - 1980 Mr. Olympia discussion

5:40 - Bodybuilding History book

9:00 - Emails from listeners

14:00 - Start of interview with Dave DeYoung and Larry Bernstein

16:00 - How Quads Gym got started

24:20 - The gym atmosphere at Quads

31:00 - When Dave's partner passed away

36:10 - Tom Milanovich's acting career

45:54 - 1977 Mr. America memories

50:28 - When Larry competed in the 1982 AAU Mr. America

55:00 - When there was no air conditioning or girls in the gym

57:56 - Dave talks about Eddie Coan

1:10:40 - The booing at the 1981 Mr. Olympia

1:17:36 - Sergio Oliva

1:26:00 - Moving story about Larry's Dad

1:36:00 - Host John Hansen reads the article "Arnold As I Know Him" written by Frank Zane from the May, 1972 issue of IronMan Magazine.

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In Part Two of his interview with the Bodybuilding Legends Podcast, photographer and videographer Wayne Gallasch talks about some of the legendary bodybuilders he filmed over the last 50 years. Wayne is responsible for filming some of the most classic bodybuilding competitions along with some of the most legendary bodybuilders in the history of the sport. At the end of the interview, host John Hansen reads the article "Bertil Fox - His Story" written by Wayne Gallasch from the September, 1977 issue of IronMan Magazine. (Time Stamps below).

Time Stamps:

2:21 - Bertil Fox released from prison

7:52 - RIP Charles Fautz

10:41 - Tampa Pro Review

17:25 - Emails from last week's show

21:36 - Part Two of the Wayne Gallasch interview

22:00 - Filming Sergio Oliva in 1972 after the Mr. Olympia

24:56 - Bill Pearl in the 1971 NABBA Mr. Universe

27:50 - Filming Arnold and Franco in Australia in 1972

31:12 - Wayne's memories of filming Mike Mentzer

32:58 - Casey Viator

34:22 - Wayne's thoughts on Bertil Fox at his peak

36:31 - The 1970 NABBA Mr. Universe

40:00 - The Arnold-Bill Pearl matchup that never happened

45:46 - Ronnie Coleman in Australia

49:07 - When will Wayne retire?

55:21 - Visiting with Peter McGough in 2018

59:35 - Host John Hansen reads the article "Bertil Fox - His Story" written by Wayne Gallasch in the September, 1977 issue of IronMan Magazine.

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Wayne Gallasch has been filming and photographing the best bodybuilders in the world for over 50 years. In Part One of his interview with the Bodybuilding Legends Podcast, Wayne talks about how he started as a bodybuilding photographer and videographer and what has kept him going in the business for all these years. Wayne also shares his thoughts on some of the iconic bodybuilders he has met over the years including Serge Nubret, Frank Zane, Chris Dickerson and Boyer Coe. At the end of the podcast, host John Hansen reads the article "Reflections on the two Mr. Universe contests" written by Wayne Gallasch for the May, 1972 issue of IronMan Magazine. (Time Stamps below).

Time Stamps:

3:47 - Tampa Pro this weekend

5:14 - Pro Physique Transformation Challenge

7:50 - Start of Wayne Gallasch interview, part one

10:00 - When Wayne started filming the NABBA Mr. Universe contest

15:24 - Wayne's initial interest in bodybuilding

18:24 - The dream job

19:30 - Financial vs. spirtual rewards

21:30 - Appreciating the history of the sport

25:00 - The most popular era in bodybuilding

28:30 - Doing interviews at the Olympia

30:54 - The editing process for Wayne's videos

34:42 - Judging the NABBA Mr. Universe

38:15 - Serge Nubret at the 1978 NABBA Mr. Universe

39:30 - Frank Zane at the 1972 NABBA Mr. Universe

44:00 - Wayne's thoughts on Chris Dickerson

47:25 - Wayne remembers Boyer Coe onstage

49:40 - John reads the article "Reflections on the two Mr. Universe contests" written by Wayne Gallasch for the May, 1972 issue of IronMan Magazine.

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The Bodybuilding Legends Podcast continues its celebration of our 5th Anniversary with Part Two of this special episode featuring some of our favorite interviews over the last five years. Included in this episode are clips of interviews with Chris Cormier, Vince Taylor, Samir Bannout, Tim Kimber of Gold's Gym, Mike Katz, Earl Maynard and Danny Padilla. (Time Stamps below).

Time Stamps:

3:20 - Pro Physique Transformation Challenge

4:40 - California Trip

5:20 - Old Bodybuilding Magazines

8:00 - Chris Cormier talks about training with Flex Wheeler and how he almost got into a fight with Mike Tyson

17:10 - Vince Taylor remembers when he met John Brown for the first time

19:15 - Vince Taylor talks about visiting California and competing in his first contest

25:35 - Samir Bannout talks about winning the Mr. Universe in 1979 and competing in his first three Mr. Olympia competitions (1980-1982)

34:20 - Tim Kimber, manager of Gold's Gym in the 1980's, talks about when Hollywood wanted to shoot a television show at Gold's Gym

40:20 - Earl Maynard talks about competing in the NABBA Mr. Universe compared to the IFBB and being on stage with his idol Bill Pearl

54:24 - Mike Katz remembers when Sergio Oliva wanted to compete in the 1970 Mr. America contest and some stories about training with Arnold

1:02:14 - Danny Padilla shares his thoughts about Sergio Oliva

1:07:04 - Danny Padilla talks about losing the 1979 Night of the Champions after scoring a perfect 300 points

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