Former IFBB Pro Bodybuilders Phil Williams, Tony Pearson and Tom Terwilliger come together for an interview with the Bodybuilding Legends Podcast. In Part Two of their interview, Phil, Tony and Tom talk about the promise of Mixed Pairs competition, the unfortunate passing of Matt Mendenhall last year and their experiences competing in their very first competition. At the end of the podcast, host John Hansen reads the article "Phil Williams - King of 1985" from the March, 1986 issue of Muscle Training Illustrated magazine. John also reads an article written by Lisa Lyon called "Why I Like Male Bodybuilders".

Time Stamps:

2:00 - Cedric McMillan passes away

6:30 - Emails from last week's podcast

10:32 - Start of the Phil Williams, Tony Pearson and Tom Terwilliger interview, Part Two

11:00 - Tony talks about his experiences competing in Mixed Pairs competition

15:45 - Bring back Mixed Pairs competitions

20:00 - Nicole Bass

23:00 - Do you miss the bodybuilding magazines?

27:00 - The passing of Matt Mendenhall last year

33:25 - Phil talks about his first bodybuilding contest

36:20 - Tony talks about when he competed in his first contest

42:20 - When Tony learned how to pose

45:12 - Tom talks about competing in his first teenage contest

53:14 - The teenage bodybuilding competitions today

54:25 - Phil talks about his first drug cycle

57:00 - Phil shares his latest medical issues

1:10:14 - Host John Hansen reads the article "Phil Williams - The King of 1985" written by Lou Parees from the March, 1986 issue of Muscle Training Illustrated.

1:20:23 - John reads the article "Why I Like Male Bodybuilders" by Lisa Lyon

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Bodybuilding Champions and former IFBB Professional Bodybuilders Phil Williams, Tony Pearson and Tom Terwilliger join the Bodybuilding Legends Podcast for Part One of their interview. Phil, Tony and Tom discuss a variety of different subjects including concentration during a workout, training in their 60's, memories of Dave Draper and Chris Dickerson, Mixed Pairs posing and the start of women's bodybuilding. At the end of the podcast, host John Hansen reads the article "Mr. Olympia Report, Part II" written by Rick Wayne from the April, 1982 issue of Muscle&Fitness Magazine about the 1981 Mr. Olympia contest.

Time Stamps:

2:45 - John talks about his seminar in Massachusetts

4:05 - John Balik's 80th Birthday

5:30 - Start of interview with Phil Williams, Tony Pearson and Tom Terwilliger

10:15 - Training in your 60's

26:20 - Focused concentration during a workout

39:00 - Thoughts about getting older

45:40 - Memories of Dave Draper

48:55 - Chris Dickerson RIP

52:00 - Mixed Pairs competitions

57:23 - Lisa Lyon, the first female bodybuilder

1:00:50 - John Hansen reads the article "Mr. Olympia Report, Part II" written by Rick Wayne from the March, 1982 issue of Muscle & Fitness Magazine.

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David Hawk, 1985 NPC USA Champion and one of the most popular pro bodybuilders in the 1980's, is the guest on this episode of the Bodybuilding Legends Podcast. In Part Two of his interview, David talks about winning the 1985 NPC USA overall title over Matt Mendenhall and then winning his class at the 1985 IFBB World Games in London. He also talks about competing as an IFBB Pro in contests such as the Night of the Champions and the Pro World Championships in Columbus, Ohio. At the end of the podcast, host John Hansen reads the article "Olympia '81, Part 1" written by Rick Wayne from the February, 1982 issue of Muscle & Fitness magazine.

Time Stamps:

1:10 - Old Bodybuilding Magazines

3:00 - John's Bodybuilding Seminar in April

4:40 - Emails from last week's show

7:15 - Beginning of interview with Dave Hawk

9:00 - Competing against Rich Gaspari at the 1983 NPC Jr. Nationals

15:30 - When Dave competed as a heavyweight in the 1984 NPC USA

19:00 - Winning the overall title at the 1985 NPC USA Championships

22:00 - The IFBB World Games in London

38:35 - Competing in his first pro show

48:15 - Increasing the entertainment aspect of Bodybuilding

50:18 - The event that made Dave question his future in the sport

1:01:50 - John Hansen reads the article "Olympia '81, Part 1" written by Rick Wayne for the February, 1982 issue of Muscle & Fitness magazine.

Links:

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David Hawk, winner of the 1985 NPC USA and IFBB World Games, is the guest on this episode of the Bodybuilding Legends Podcast. In Part One of his interview, David talks about how he got started in bodybuilding while playing football in high school, competing in the teenage bodybuilding competitions and winning the Teenage Mr. America in 1982. At the end of the interview, host John Hansen reads the article "Dave Hawk Soars" by Jim Manion for the January, 1986 issue of Muscle & Fitness magazine.

Time Stamps:

1:45 - 2022 Arnold Classic recap

4:50 - Breakfast with Lee Haney

6:35 - Happy Birthday to John

7:52 - Emails from last week's show

10:05 - Start of David Hawk, Part One interview

11:45 - Dave talks about his recent injuries

21:20 - When Dave started weight training

24:20 - Dave's introduction to Bodybuilding

25:17 - Dave's first teenage contest

29:50 - Dave's Dad's advice about competing in bodybuilding

31:50 - The popularity of bodybuilding with teens in the 1980's

35:30 - Vince McMahon's plan for Bodybuilding

37:30 - Masters Bodybuilding competition

39:00 - Competing in the Teenage Mr. America in 1981

42:25 - Getting married young

43:40 - Bulking up in the 1980's

45:30 - Bob Gruskin

46:50 - Winning the 1982 Teenage Mr. America

48:30 - Using steroids for competition

50:26 - Learning how to pose for contests

58:30 - Dave's trick for getting his legs ripped onstage

1:02:23 - Host John Hansen reads the article "Dave Hawk Soars" by Jim Manion from the January, 1986 issue of Muscle&Fitness Magazine.

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John Citrone, one of Britain's best bodybuilders, talks about his great career on this episode of the Bodybuilding Legends Podcast. John took first place in his class at the prestigious NABBA Mr. Universe from 1966-1969. After retiring from the sport for many years, John made a comeback to competition as a Masters competitor, eventually winning the Masters World Championships 6x and the Masters Mr. Universe contest 5x. Today, at 78 years old, John is still in fantastic shape and he reveals his secrets for longevity and health in bodybuilding.

Time Stamps:

2:05 - The passing of Bostin Lloyd at 29 years old

4:20 - Happy Birthday Jerry Brainum

4:37 - Preview of the Arnold Classic

9:24 - Beginning of interview with John Citrone

10:00 - John talks about how he stays in shape at 78 years old

13:38 - When John started lifting weights at 14 years old

16:30 - How John started competing in bodybuilding contests

18:00 - John's first competition as a teenager

19:27 - When John began competing in the NABBA Mr. Universe contest

21:17 - The judging at the NABBA Mr. Universe

21:45 - When John first met Arnold Schwarzenegger

24:50 - Competing against Arnold in professional division of the NABBA Mr. Universe

26:20 - Beating Freddy Ortiz in the 1968 Mr. Universe

28:50 - Meeting Bill Pearl for the first time

30:50 - Wag Bennett

32:00 - John talks about Rick Wayne's physique

33:55 - When did the bodybuilders in England start using steroids?

36:57 - Why John didn't compete in the Mr. Olympia contest

40:37 - How John started doing his strongman act

44:30 - When John started competing again as a Masters competitor

50:04 - Getting leaner as a masters competitor

55:36 - John's thoughts on the legends of bodybuilding

1:02:44 - John's bad accident doing his strength act

1:14:15 - Host John Hansen reads the chapter about John Citrone from Bill Pearl's Legends of the Iron Game, Vol. 3

1:17:33 - John reads the article "The Wisdom of Gaspari' from the July, 1989 issue of Flex Magazine.

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Charles Gaines, the author of the book Pumping Iron and Stay Hungry, is the guest on this episode of the Bodybuilding Legends Podcast to talk about his friend and partner George Butler, who passed away last October 21st, 2021. George directed the movie "Pumping Iron" and also was the photographer of the book Pumping Iron. Charles talks about how he and George first met in 1972 on an assignment for an article about bodybuilding for Sports Illustrated magazine, the idea for the book Pumping Iron, meeting Arnold Schwarzenegger and the challenges in publishing the book and getting the movie made.

At the end of the podcast, host John Hansen reads an article about Arnold Schwarzenegger's son Joseph Baena from the March, 2022 issue of Men's Health magazine written by Andrew Heffenan. John also reads the article "Cutting Some Fancy Figures" written by Charles Gaines for the July 10, 1972 issue of Sports Illustrated magazine.

Time Stamps:

2:10 - Information about John's Seminar in Massachusetts.

3:06 - The 2022 Arnold Classic

4:21 - The Most Muscular Podcast on YouTube

6:42 - Start of the interview with Charles Gaines

7:36 - The passing of George Butler

9:08 - How George and Charles met

11:53 - The story behind the book Stay Hungry

16:26 - The first article written about bodybuilding for Sports Illustrated magazine

26:00 - Charle's second article on bodybuilding for Oui Magazine

27:50 - The struggle to find a publisher for the book Pumping Iron

29:45 - Covering the 1972 Mr. Universe contest in Baghdad, Iraq

33:54 - Hanging out with Arnold in Venice, California in the summer of 1973

35:12 - Meeting Arnold for the first time

39:10 - The strategy that made the book Pumping Iron such a big success

43:23 - Making the movie "Pumping Iron"

47:55 - The key to writing fiction

49:42 - What Charles thought about the movie "Stay Hungry"

54:00 - The problems involved in getting the book and movie "Pumping Iron" released

59:36 - Charles remembers George Butler

1:03:00 - Host John Hansen reads an article about Joseph Baena written by Andrew Heffernan from the March, 2022 issue of Men's Health

1:20:00 - John reads the article "Cutting Some Fancy Figures" written by Charles Gaines for the July 10, 1972 issue of Sports Illustrated magazine.

Charles Gaines, the author of the book Pumping Iron and Stay Hungry, is the guest on this episode of the Bodybuilding Legends Podcast to talk about his friend and partner George Butler who passed away last October 21, 2021. George directed the movie "Pumping Iron" and took the photos for the book Pumping Iron. Charles talks about how he and George met in 1972 on an assignment for an article about bodybuilding for Sports Illustrated magazine, the idea for the book Pumping Iron, meeting Arnold Schwarzenegger and making the movie "Pumping Iron" in 1975.

At the end of the podcast, host John Hansen reads an article about Arnold Schwarzenegger's son Joseph Baena from Men's Health magazine written by Andrew Heffernan and the article "Cutting Some Fancy Figures" written by Charles Gaines for the July 10 ,1972 issue of Sports Illustrated magazine.

Time Stamps:

2:10 - Information about John's Seminar in Massachusetts

3:06 - The 2022 Arnold Classic

4:21 - The Most Muscular Podcast on YouTube

6:42 - Start of the interview with Charles Gaines

7:36 - The passing of George Butler

9:08 - How George Butler and Charles Gaines met

11:53 - The story behind the book Stay Hungry

16:26 - The first article about bodybuilding written by Charles Gaines for Sports Illustrated magazine

26:00 - Charles's second article on bodybuilding for Oui Magazine

27:50 - The struggle to find a publisher for the book Pumping Iron

29:45 - Covering the 1972 Mr. Universe contest in Baghdad, Iraq for the book Pumping Iron

33:54 - Hanging out with Arnold in Venice, California in 1973

35:12 - Meeting Arnold for the first time

39:10 - The strategy that made the book Pumping Iron such a big success

43:23 - Making the movie "Pumping Iron" in 1975

47:55 - The key to writing fiction

49:42 - Charles's thoughts about the movie "Stay Hungry"

54:00 - The problems involved in getting the book and the movie "Pumping Iron" released

59:36 - Charles remembers George Butler

1:03:00 - Host John Hansen reads an article about Arnold's son Joseph Baena from the March, 2022 issue of Men's Health magazine written by Andrew Heffernan.

1:20:00 - John Hansen reads the article "Cutting Some Fancy Figures" written by Charles Gaines for the July 10, 1972 issue of Sports Illustrated magazine.

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Jerry Brainum, former writer for Muscle & Fitness magazine and IronMan Magazine, joins the Bodybuilding Legends Podcast for Part Two of his interview about the year 1991 In Review. Jerry and host John Hansen talk about the top amateur competitions from that year including the 1991 NPC USA Championships won by Mike Matarazzo, the 1991 IFBB North America won by Ray McNeil and the 1991 NPC Nationals won by Kevin Levrone and featuring an all star line-up of future champions. Jerry and John conclude the podcast by talking about the 1991 Mr. Olympia contest, won for the 8th time by Lee Haney. At the end of the podcast, John reads the article "An Interview with Lee Hayney, 1982 American World Champion" by Doris Barrilleaux from the April, 1983 issue of Muscle Training Illustrated magazine.

Time Stamps:

5:00 - Back injury

5:50 - Emails from last week's show

8:56 - Beginning of the interview with Jerry Brainum about 1991 In Review, Part Two

9:43 - Jerry remembers Mike Matarazzo

11:00 - The potential of Flex Wheeler

13:00 - The 1991 NPC USA Championships

15:25 - The 1991 IFBB North America

16:03 - The tragedy of Ray McNeil

17:25 - Paul Dillet

22:07 - The 1991 NPC Nationals was one of the best ever

23:55 - Kevin Levrone's first interview

33:20 - Ronnie Coleman's appearance at the 1991 Nationals

35:36 - Chris Cormier's failed attempt to make the USA Team to the Universe

36:40 - Matt Mendenhall's strong fifth place

39:10 - Porter Cottrell, light heavyweight winner

40:42 - The 1991 Mr. Olympia, one of the best in history

43:00 - Lee Haney's contract with TwinLab right before the 1991 Mr. Olympia

47:20 - Did Lee Haney know he was going to retire after 1991?

51:03 - Retiring at the top of your game

54:13 - Ronnie Coleman's last Mr. Olympia contest

57:00 - Will anyone break the record number of wins at the Mr. Olympia?

1:01:40 - The one factor that might allow someone to beat the Mr. Olympia record

1:26:11 - John Hansen reads the article "An Interview with Lee Hayney 1982 American and World Champion" written by Doris Barrilleaux for the April, 1983 issue of Muscle Training Illustrated.

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Jerry Brainum, former writer for Muscle & Fitness Magazine and IronMan Magazine, is the guest for this episode of the Bodybuilding Legends Podcast. Jerry and host John Hansen discuss the year 1991 in Bodybuilding. Included in the discussion in Part One is the 1991 IronMan Pro Invitational won by J.J. Marsh, the 1991 Arnold Classic won by Shawn Ray and the 1991 Night of the Champions won by Dorian Yates. At the beginning of the podcast, Jerry and John talk about the recent deaths of Tom Prince, 1997 NPC Nationals winner, and the legendary Marvin Eder who passed away last week at 90 years old.

Time Stamps:

5:20 - Emails from last week's podcast

10:20 - Start of the interview with Jerry Brainum, 1991 Year in Review, Part One

11:35 - Jerry talks about the recent passing of Tom Prince, 1997 NPC Nationals winner

23:14 - Do you have to train heavy to get big?

27:34 - Marvin Eder, bodybuilding legend, passes away at 90 years old

39:20 - The heavy drug use of today's bodybuilders

48:00 - When John first saw Dorian Yates

1:00:52 - Can you train heavy when you get older?

1:06:52 - The 1991 IronMan Pro Invitational

1:14:48 - The 1991 Arnold Classic

1:18:17 - The 1991 Niagara Falls Invitational won by Albert Beckles

1:21:00 - The 1991 Night of the Champions

1:23:20 - How close was the 1991 Mr. Olympia decision?

1:26:56 - Sonny Schmidt

1:30:50 - Sergio Oliva's bigger older brother

1:37:17 - Host John Hansen reads an excerpt from the book Legends of the Iron Game, Vol. 2 about the life of Marvin Eder

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The Bodybuilding Legends Podcast devotes this episode as a tribute to the late Chris Dickerson who passed away on December 23rd, 2021. The guests for this tribute include 4x Mr. Universe and Mr. America Boyer Coe, Mr. Universe and Professional Mr. Universe Roy Callender and NPC judge Bill Neylon. Boyer, Roy and Bill share their memories of Chris. Boyer talks about competing with Chris back in the 1960's, Roy remembers his battles with Chris on the Grand Prix circuit in 1980 and '81 and Bill talks about what a gentleman Chris was with his fans. At the end of the podcast, host John Hansen reads the article "Elegance is the Game, Dickerson's the Name" written by Bill Reynolds and Armand Tanny for the January, 1980 issue of Muscle&Fitness magazine.

Time Stamps:

3:08 - John announces a new seminar planned for March

4:00 - Emails from last week's show

11:00 - Beginning of Chris Dickerson Tribute

12:00 - When Boyer Coe first met Chris Dickerson

13:46 - When Boyer and Chris first competed against each other

14:55 - Bill talks about when he first met Chris Dickerson in 2003

19:00 - Roy Callender talks about when he first met Chris Dickerson

21:20 - Boyer talks about how the contests were judged back in the 1960's

25:09 - Boyer talks about competing against Roy in the NABBA Mr. Universe

26:00 - Roy talks about what made Chris a great bodybuilder

28:16 - When bodybuilders used to compete in a lot of contests

32:44 - Chris Dickerson was the first African-American to win the Mr. America

34:12 - Boyer remembers competing against Sergio Oliva in 1966

36:10 - When Arthur Jones got Ken Waller suspended from the AAU Mr. America

38:15 - Boyer tells the story of traveling to South Africa with Chris

44:45 - When Roy was suspended from competing in the IFBB in 1971

47:40 - Boyer and Roy talk about the 1980 Mr. Olympia

56:06 - Chris's thoughts about the 1980 and '81 Mr. Olympia

58:25 - When Franco came up onstage at the 1980 Mr. Olympia prejudging

1:00:53 - Chris was a great ambassador for bodybuilding

1:04:50 - Boyer Coe's greatest competitive year

1:07:20 - Roy talks about what it is like to be a real bodybuilder

1:13:37 - John reads the article "Elegance is the Game, Dickerson's the Name" written by Bill Reynolds and Armand Tanny from the January, 1980 issue of Muscle&Fitness magazine.

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