Introducing The Bold Journeys Podcast, where we inspire you to find hope, resilience and strength in challenging times of adversity.

Hello, Channel Pros! Welcome to the final episode of Channel Journeys—a moment that's both nostalgic and exciting. After celebrating our voyage with highlights from ten fantastic guests in the last episode, it's time to chart a new course toward "Bold Journeys."

This December, in the spirit of advent—a season of anticipation and joy—I reflect on the past seven years of Channel Journeys and the joy it has brought me. Through insightful conversations with astonishing people, we've explored channel stories that resonated with our ecosystem, the channel community.

The podcast has evolved from an emerging platform to a sought-after space where guests frequently requested to share their partnering wisdom. But as I transitioned from my career as a channel chief, my passion for sharing channel stories shifted to adventures, grit, and faith.

Join me in this final episode as we dive into grit, adventure and faith behind the pivot to Bold Journeys. You'll hear stories from Jay McBain, Louise McEvoy, and Mitch Lewandowski that personify these themes.

Grit: A Formula for Success

Grit combines passion and perseverance, serving as a cornerstone for long-term achievement. Often more crucial than natural talent, grit fuels persistence in challenging times. Jay McBain, known for his analytical approach as a chief channel analyst, transforms obstacles into manageable challenges. During our interview, he emphasized the importance of compartmentalizing life's difficulties, aiming to prevent overwhelming piles of stress. His analytical mindset is a hallmark of his ability to overcome life's hurdles.

Adventure: Stepping into the Unknown

Adventure starts where certainty ends. It's about embracing risks for rewarding experiences. Louise McAvoy, a partnering executive and avid mountaineer, embodies this spirit. Inspired by reading about the 1996 Everest Disaster, she set her sights on climbing Everest. What started as a simple promise turned into a 14-year journey to the summit. Her narrative illustrates that adventure is a choice to leave comfort behind and discover personal limits, whether in careers, relationships, or personal growth.

Faith: Trust in the Unseen

Faith is the compass guiding our journey, even amidst unseen challenges. For Mitch Lewandowski, faith was a lifeline through three critical life challenges, including a near-death experience with COVID. Emerging from his trials stronger, Mitch highlights how faith fuels perseverance, molding us for future challenges. His conviction that trials develop character echoes deeply as we navigate our own journeys.

As we embark on "Bold Journeys," I extend my heartfelt gratitude to our distinguished guests—Jay, Louise, and Mitch—for their inspiring narratives and insights. Thank you, too, to our devoted listeners who've been part of the Channel Journeys community and all of the guests who have shared their stories over the past 7 years.

While bidding farewell to Channel Journeys, I invite you to join me on this new adventure. When it launches in January, subscribe, share, comment, and let's be bold and courageous together.

Thank you so much for being an integral part of the Channel Journeys adventure and for embracing the upcoming Bold Journeys.

TRANSCRIPT

[00:00:00] Rob Spee: Hello, channel Pros. Well, guys, this is it, the final episode of Channel Journeys. Last episode, I celebrated this journey with highlights from 10 awesome guests from over the years.

[00:00:11] Rob Spee: Today I wanna tell you more about the pivot, the pivot to bold journeys. Here we are in December. This is the season of advent and a time of joy and hope in anticipation of Christmas, and for many of us, the anticipation of celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ our savior.

It's a time when we celebrate with family, friends, we celebrate with our communities. So I think it's fitting to celebrate the Channel Journeys community. I have received so much joy in hosting Channel Journeys over the past seven years. It's given me the chance to meet really incredible people, to learn from their channel stories, to share those lessons with you.

You know, when I first started Channel Journeys, I worked really hard to find great guests who had valuable stories to tell. As time went on though, I found PR agents reaching out to me every week asking if their clients could come on the show. And sometimes those were great clients, a great fit.

Sometimes I had to turn them down. It just wasn't a great fit for, for you, the audience. But what a great gift for a podcaster to have so many people wanting to come on the show.

[00:01:17] Rob Spee: After I retired from my career as a channel chief, though, I realized the stories I wanted to tell weren't just about careers or technology or channels.

You know, I love adventures. I love going out and cycling and sailing and getting outdoors. And I've shared some of those stories, stories of cycling, my sailing, uh, out on the ocean and in the Caribbean, and I love hearing about other people's adventures too, and where they find the grit and resilience to carry on.

I'm always curious about the drive that keeps us moving forward in life's biggest challenges. Our, our big adventures, whether they're they're outdoors or adventures and challenges in, in our careers or just. Things that happen in life, what keeps us going? What helps us climb those steepest hills in the, the, in the worst of weather?

And that's why I'm pivoting to bold journeys. This new chapter is about transformation. It's not, not about digital transformation, when I think we've beat that one to death, it's about life transformations. It's about the moments when we're tested, when we step into the unknown and when we trust in something bigger than ourselves.

So it's about grit, adventure, and faith. I've already started recording the episodes for the big launch in January.

[00:02:30] Rob Spee: Today I wanna share with you the heart behind this pivot by giving you a sneak peek, you're going to hear from three voices who embody these themes of grit, adventure, and faith. You likely already know two of these voices, Jay McBain and Louise McAvoy, both our former guests on channel Journeys.

The third voice comes from Mitch Lewandowski, who's a new guest with a a really incredible story. Alright, are you ready for a taste of grit, adventure, and faith? Let's go.

[00:03:05] Rob Spee: All right guys, let's start with grit. First off, what is grit? Well, it's defined as the combination of passion and perseverance toward long-term goals. It's what enables us to maintain focus and resilience despite challenges and setbacks, and it's actually considered a key predictor of success, often more important than talent or intelligence.

So grit is that raw persistence that keeps us moving when the path is super steep. It's rough. It's not glamorous. It's not easy, but it's powerful. It's so powerful. And then when we have it, we're more likely to succeed. More likely than someone who have, may have even more talent or more brains, but who lacks the grit to persevere.

Jay McBain is someone who knows this well. You probably know Jay as the chief Channels analyst, where he has a huge passion for all things partnering. But you may not know about Jay's perseverance and his approach to overcoming obstacles. Not surprisingly, he approaches every challenge with an analytic mindset, breaking each challenge down step by step, piece by piece until the impossible feels possible.

Here's what he shared in our interview.

[00:04:13] Jay McBain: What would you say to someone who's listening, who is in the middle of their own storm, who is, is in one of those tough moments right now? I, first of all is compartmentalize. Or containerize. Mm-hmm. Um, you know, in any big project or any big problem, it's usually an overwhelming set of other things happening too.

We're all in our natural cycles. We have ops, we have downs. Sometimes when you get overwhelmed is you're in a down cycle and then things just happen on any other given day. Like you have a flat tire in your car. Yeah. You just handle. When you're in down cycle and something's bad happening in business, some something's happening with your relationships, all the containers are unsealed and then you get a flat tire.

It's, it's just this, you know, things pile.

[00:04:51] Rob Spee: Yeah.

[00:04:51] Jay McBain: What I would say is don't let them pile.

[00:04:53] Rob Spee: Yeah.

[00:04:54] Jay McBain: Handle them on their own. Yeah. And if you plan for them ahead of time, if you're in a storm, you can't really do this at that time. But storms always pass.

[00:05:02] Rob Spee: This is just one example of how Jay approaches life, applying lessons he learned early in life, applying his analytical mind that he has honed over the years. Now check out how we apply something he calls systems thinking.

[00:05:17] Jay McBain: When you're a system thinker, when you kind of, uh, reduce emotion, which is one of the challenges in being married and, and things like that. Mm-hmm. Resort more to logic. You know that 99.999% of kids will not make the NHL. So when you're going in and you think you got a shot and you're, you're, you're trying out for these WHL teams and you're a, you're the captain of the big team, and you know, you think you're, you're at the top of the game.

You, you go back to the, well, no, no, 99.999, and the same goes for football and baseball. And so every other sport, I mean. To make it to the very top. There's only a handful. There's 30 teams and there's, you know, 20 people on each teams give it the, , you know, the odds of me making it we're just astronomical, like the same as winning the lottery and, you know, getting hit by lightning as you're on the way to pick up the check.

[00:06:02] Rob Spee: When you hear the full interview, you'll see that Jay has a strong passion and perseverance in achieving his life goals.

That's grit. And I'll be honest, for me, this pivot to bold journeys has taken some grit. It's meant late nights, uphill climbs and and moments of doubt. But my passion for this new mission and my perseverance is what's going to keep me moving forward.

[00:06:21] Rob Spee: Now let's talk about adventure. When I think of adventure, I think of setting off on an exciting experience, one that's going to involve some degree of danger or risk, but with an even bigger reward.

Adventure begins, I think, where certainty ends. It's about stepping into the unknown, even when the risks are real. Someone who shares my passion for adventure is Louise McEvoy. She's a partnering executive who is really addicted to climbing mountains and not just any mountain. She's climbing the world's tallest mountains.

She has climbed peaks and endured risks that most of us only read about. I'd have to say that Louise displays both a passion and a perseverance in hiking. In other words, she's got a lot of grit. Listen to this from our interview.

[00:07:08] Louise McEvoy: I moved here. I didn't know anyone. I was working out of a satellite office. You know, I was kind of going into an office by myself. So every evening and every weekend I spent by myself and a friend of mine suggested I read a book about the 1996 Everest Disaster. And it was a tragic story, but it also introduced me to the concept of mountaineering.

I didn't know people like me could climb a mountain as big as Everest. So it was really a book that got me introduced to this concept. And I just started reading and reading and reading. And I loved the journey. I loved the, the thought of people climbing mountains and I made a promise to myself that one day I would see Mount Everest.

And so I did four years from reading that book. I made the trek to Everest base camp and I saw Everest for the first time. And then I made a dis. I promise myself that one day I was gonna climb that mountain and it took 14 years from that point. To the point where I got to the summit, it was a 14 year journey, but it was worth it.

[00:08:05] Rob Spee: I love how a book ignited Louise's imagination and gave her that spark for mountain adventures. Listening to Louise, I'm reminded that adventure, it's a choice. It's choosing to leave comfort behind. It's choosing to embrace risk and to discover who you are at the edge of your limits. Bold journeys is about that kind of adventure, not just in mountains, but in our careers, in relationships, and in faith.

But achieving your summit is not a guarantee, and it's, it's not going to be without risks or challenges. Here's another clip from Louise.

[00:08:37] Louise McEvoy: Firmly believe we're all on a journey and we're all on a journey to reach our version of our summit. And when I look back at my journey to the summit of Everest, I realize that bad things happen to me. Bad emotions happen to me. Good emotions, good experiences, and all of that was for a reason. And if I take out any one of those moments or people who got introduced in my life or emotions that I had to experience, I may not have made that summit.

[00:09:04] Rob Spee: For me, adventure has shown up in my career launching startups or taking on a big new role and outdoors, cycling, sailing, and now in launching this new podcast, each time I've had to step into the unknown, knowing that the journey itself, that's what would shape me. In fact, the journey is very often more rewarding

then the accomplishment than actually getting there to your destination.

Now we're down to our last topic.

[00:09:27] Rob Spee: Let's talk about faith. Faith, it comes in a lot of different forms. I've already seen that in these first three interviews. Faith is the compass within. It's the courage to trust what you can't yet see. For many of us, our faith is in a higher being. It's in our Lord, our God in whom we trust to watch over us in great times, and

in really bad times. My third guest, Mitch Lewandowski, he knows this deeply. He faced three major life challenges in the past few years, including this near death experience with COVID. Check this out.

[00:10:01] Mitch Lewandowski: So she rushes me over to the er. We take me into the er. I pass out in the ER with a blood oxygen of 60, and I wake up a month later in ICU. They come walk, walking, running, hurrying in. Like, oh my gosh, Mr. Lewandeski, you're not supposed to be here. And then over a period of days and weeks of multiple medical professionals coming to visit me, things were being told to me like this.

Mitch, nobody comes back from where you are at. You are the once in a lifetime miracle that we hope and pray for. There's no reason why you should be here, you know, of what you had going on, you may never walk and talk again. So keep an open mind.

[00:10:49] Rob Spee: Mitch recovered from COVID, but after that he faced two more extremely difficult challenges, and through it all, his faith has been the anchor that has kept him steady.

Here's a moment from our conversation.

[00:11:02] Mitch Lewandowski: All these difficult things were equipping us to go through hard things. There's a Bible verse that I've used more than once and it says, count it all joy, my brothers, for when you encounter trials. For trials, develop perseverance and perseverance, proven characters so that you'll be lacking in nothing.

It doesn't mean that you rejoice in the difficult times, but to count those as your to your advantage. The word joy. Count this to your advantage because this is equipping you to be able to do this, to be able to do this, to do this.

[00:11:37] Rob Spee: Mitch's story reminds us that faith isn't passive. It is active. It's what keeps us moving when logic tells us to stop. For me, faith is the foundation of this pivot. I've never been very vocal about my faith. I was always afraid of offending people, but what I'm realizing is that if I'm not sharing the greatest gift I've received in my life.

What's going on? I, I talk about the best strategies. I talk about all the best movies I've seen, what I've seen on Netflix. So how can I not talk about the everlasting father who brings me so much joy and so much hope? My own faith journey has taught me that when you step out of your comfort zone, doors open.

Yeah, some paths can close, but new, better paths appear and you discover strength you didn't even know that you had.

[00:12:22] Rob Spee: So that's it. Bold Journeys isn't just a podcast. I want it to be a movement, a movement rooted in grit, adventure, and faith. You've heard it in Jay's Analytical Grit, Louise's Daring Adventures and, and Mitch's persevering faith through really extreme trials. Channel Journeys has been an incredible ride, but, but Bold Journeys is where we're gonna go deeper into the stories that shape us, that challenge us, and call us to a higher level.

I invite you to join me. When we launch in January, I want you to subscribe, share, and be part of the tribe. Your journey matters and together we're building something bold. Thank you so much. Thank you for being part of Channel Journeys and welcome, welcome to Bold Journeys.

Hello, Channel Pros! Welcome to the final episode of Channel Journeys—a moment that’s both nostalgic and exciting. After celebrating our voyage with highlights from ten fantastic guests in the last episode, it’s time to chart a new course toward “Bold Journeys.”

This December, in the spirit of advent—a season of anticipation and joy—I reflect on the past seven years of Channel Journeys and the joy it has brought me. Through insightful conversations with astonishing people, we’ve explored channel stories that resonated with our ecosystem, the channel community.

The podcast has evolved from an emerging platform to a sought-after space where guests frequently requested to share their partnering wisdom. But as I transitioned from my career as a channel chief, my passion for sharing channel stories shifted to adventures, grit, and faith.

Join me in this final episode as we dive into grit, adventure and faith behind the pivot to Bold Journeys. You’ll hear stories from Jay McBain, Louise McEvoy, and Mitch Lewandowski that personify these themes.

Grit: A Formula for Success 

Grit combines passion and perseverance, serving as a cornerstone for long-term achievement. Often more crucial than natural talent, grit fuels persistence in challenging times. Jay McBain, known for his analytical approach as a chief channel analyst, transforms obstacles into manageable challenges. During our interview, he emphasized the importance of compartmentalizing life’s difficulties, aiming to prevent overwhelming piles of stress. His analytical mindset is a hallmark of his ability to overcome life’s hurdles.

Adventure: Stepping into the Unknown 

Adventure starts where certainty ends. It’s about embracing risks for rewarding experiences. Louise McAvoy, a partnering executive and avid mountaineer, embodies this spirit. Inspired by reading about the 1996 Everest Disaster, she set her sights on climbing Everest. What started as a simple promise turned into a 14-year journey to the summit. Her narrative illustrates that adventure is a choice to leave comfort behind and discover personal limits, whether in careers, relationships, or personal growth.

Faith: Trust in the Unseen 

Faith is the compass guiding our journey, even amidst unseen challenges. For Mitch Lewandowski, faith was a lifeline through three critical life challenges, including a near-death experience with COVID. Emerging from his trials stronger, Mitch highlights how faith fuels perseverance, molding us for future challenges. His conviction that trials develop character echoes deeply as we navigate our own journeys.

As we embark on “Bold Journeys,” I extend my heartfelt gratitude to our distinguished guests—Jay, Louise, and Mitch—for their inspiring narratives and insights. Thank you, too, to our devoted listeners who’ve been part of the Channel Journeys community and all of the guests who have shared their stories over the past 7 years.

While bidding farewell to Channel Journeys, I invite you to join me on this new adventure. When it launches in January, subscribe, share, comment, and let’s be bold and courageous together.

Thank you so much for being an integral part of the Channel Journeys adventure and for embracing the upcoming Bold Journeys.

Host Rob Spee shares a tribute to 7 years of Channel Journeys with powerful clips from ten prior guests on this last episode as Rob transitions to Bold Journeys.

Seven years ago, in December 2018, I launched Channel Journeys, on a mission to explore the stories behind the partnerships and partner leaders who shape our industry. My goal was to help all of us become better partnering professionals. Over the past 7 years, I've had so many incredible guests who've shared so much channel wisdom. This episode is a tribute to all of my guests who've joined me over the past 180 episodes. It's a celebration of the voices that made this journey unforgettable.

I enjoyed meeting all of my guests. And what I found getting to know them was often something deeper than their channel story. I heard stories of grit, grace, and transformation. And that's where I'm being pulled, to dig more into those stories of perseverance, endurance and coming out of failure and challenges stronger than ever.

Today, as I prepare to launch Bold Journeys, I want to pause and say thank you. Thank you to the guests who shared their wins and losses, challenges and successes. And thank you to all of you listeners who've joined me on this awesome journey.

Here are the top 10 lessons from the distinguished guests featured in this episode:

1. Visionary Ecosystems – Jay McBain : Jay highlights the shift from transactional partnerships to transformational ecosystems. His insights remind us that modern channel programs are comprehensive ecosystems accommodating a diverse array of partnerships.

2. Agile Collaboration – Rich Blakeman : Rich's metaphor of 'seagull behavior' in sales emphasizes the need to embrace a hybrid approach. Collaborating with partners is essential to overcoming classic sales challenges.

3. Relational Leadership – Theresa Caragol : Theresa's belief in the exponential growth factor through trust and internal cultural transformation reshapes our approach to partnership growth.

4. Cultural Alignment – Timm Hoyt : Tim emphasizes the importance of aligning leadership around a shared vision before executing the mission. This cultural foundation drives successful channel outcomes.

5. Strategic Reinvention – Rajnikant Gupta : Raj teaches us that reinvention in channel strategy isn't failure, but faith in motion. Building mind share and heart share within enterprises is essential.

6. Embracing Change – Louise McEvoy : Louise shows us how courageously embracing change leads to growth and innovation. Her insights inspire leaders to face risks head-on and learn from experiences.

7. Coachability – Bart Fanelli : Bart reminds us that being coachable is key to effective leadership. Collaboration and openness to learning facilitate stronger team dynamics.

8. Ecosystem Leadership – Janet Schijns : Janet stresses targeting future-oriented connections to influence tomorrow's behaviors, encouraging leaders to look beyond traditional networks.

9. AI Leadership – Noelle Russell (Microsoft MVP, AI): Noel emphasizes the modern leader's role in managing AI systems, highlighting clarity in communication and results-driven strategies in AI adoption.

10. Empowering Partners – Jessica Baker : Jessica showcases how empowering partners with knowledge in AI and prompting skills enhances loyalty and trust, enriching partnership dynamics.

Thank you for being a part of this journey and for contributing to its success. As we transition to Bold Journeys, we hope to delve into deeper stories of grit, adventure, and faith, drawing on all the invaluable lessons learned here. Until next time, be bold and have a great channel journey!

Seven years ago, in December 2018, I launched Channel Journeys, on a mission to explore the stories behind the partnerships and partner leaders who shape our industry. My goal was to help all of us become better partnering professionals. Over the past 7 years, I’ve had so many incredible guests who’ve shared so much channel wisdom. This episode is a tribute to all of my guests who’ve joined me over the past 180 episodes. It’s a celebration of the voices that made this journey unforgettable. 

I enjoyed meeting all of my guests. And what I found getting to know them was often something deeper than their channel story. I heard stories of grit, grace, and transformation. And that’s where I’m being pulled, to dig more into those stories of perseverance, endurance and coming out of failure and challenges stronger than ever.  

Today, as I prepare to launch Bold Journeys, I want to pause and say thank you. Thank you to the guests who shared their wins and losses, challenges and successes. And thank you to all of you listeners who’ve joined me on this awesome journey.  

Here are the top 10 lessons from the distinguished guests featured in this episode:

1. Visionary Ecosystems – Jay McBain : Jay highlights the shift from transactional partnerships to transformational ecosystems. His insights remind us that modern channel programs are comprehensive ecosystems accommodating a diverse array of partnerships.

2. Agile Collaboration – Rich Blakeman : Rich’s metaphor of ‘seagull behavior’ in sales emphasizes the need to embrace a hybrid approach. Collaborating with partners is essential to overcoming classic sales challenges.

3. Relational Leadership – Theresa Caragol : Theresa’s belief in the exponential growth factor through trust and internal cultural transformation reshapes our approach to partnership growth.

4. Cultural Alignment – Timm Hoyt : Tim emphasizes the importance of aligning leadership around a shared vision before executing the mission. This cultural foundation drives successful channel outcomes.

5. Strategic Reinvention – Rajnikant Gupta : Raj teaches us that reinvention in channel strategy isn’t failure, but faith in motion. Building mind share and heart share within enterprises is essential.

6. Embracing Change – Louise McEvoy : Louise shows us how courageously embracing change leads to growth and innovation. Her insights inspire leaders to face risks head-on and learn from experiences.

7. Coachability – Bart Fanelli : Bart reminds us that being coachable is key to effective leadership. Collaboration and openness to learning facilitate stronger team dynamics.

8. Ecosystem Leadership – Janet Schijns : Janet stresses targeting future-oriented connections to influence tomorrow’s behaviors, encouraging leaders to look beyond traditional networks.

9. AI Leadership – Noelle Russell (Microsoft MVP, AI): Noel emphasizes the modern leader’s role in managing AI systems, highlighting clarity in communication and results-driven strategies in AI adoption.

10. Empowering Partners – Jessica Baker : Jessica showcases how empowering partners with knowledge in AI and prompting skills enhances loyalty and trust, enriching partnership dynamics.

Thank you for being a part of this journey and for contributing to its success. As we transition to Bold Journeys, we hope to delve into deeper stories of grit, adventure, and faith, drawing on all the invaluable lessons learned here. Until next time, be bold and have a great channel journey!

Figuring out co-opetition, especially with the hyperscalers, is one of the biggest challenges in partnering today. That’s why the number one top listened to Channel Journeys episode over the past 12 months is this one I had with Alan Chhabra. At the time of the interview, he was Executive Vice President of Worldwide Partners and International Sales at MongoDB. And he had figured out how to turn potential rivals into powerful allies.

Our conversation delves deeply into the challenges and successes MongoDB has faced in navigating partnerships with hyperscalers like Microsoft, AWS, and Google – all while simultaneously competing with them.

Alan sheds light on the nuanced strategy of “co-opetition” – where competition meets cooperation – and how MongoDB has managed to leverage partnerships for growth. This episode is essential listening for business executives and partnership leaders looking to understand the intricate balance of competition and collaboration in today’s technology-driven market landscape.

Here are five important lessons I learned from my discussion with Alan Chhabra about managing partnerships and navigating the competitive landscape:

In this last episode of our ChannelCon series, I have the opportunity to wrap up with MJ Shoer, the Chief Community Officer at GTIA. MJ’s role is pivotal as GTIA executes on it’s mission around community and innovation in technology.

As someone deeply embedded in the fabric of GTIA, MJ provides unique insights into the organization’s current strides and future directions. Our conversation spans a wide array of topics, from the vibrancy of recent GTIA events to strategic preparations for the next generation of industry leaders. MJ’s reflections highlight a community-driven approach that integrates philanthropic efforts and engages both seasoned and upcoming professionals in the technology sector.

The interview offers valuable insights for business executives and partnership leaders aiming to harness community engagement as a means to drive organizational growth and foster sustainable innovation. This conversation is also a testament to GTIA’s commitment to evolving and adapting in a rapidly changing technology landscape.

Here are the top 5 lessons I learned from MJ Shoer about fostering an engaged community at GTIA:

How do great companies thrive in the midst of massive industry and technology changes? What sort of leadership is required to energize employees and your customers? In this episode with Jennifer Roy, CEO of Nucleus Networks, we dive into the secrets of leadership in the rapidly evolving tech industry. Jennifer, who took over as CEO in January 2024, reflects on her leadership journey from her earlier role as COO starting in 2021.

Based in Vancouver, Nucleus Networks strategically serves medium-sized businesses across various verticals including non-profit, architecture, engineering, and mining. Recorded live at ChannelCon, Jennifer shares her experiences and perspectives on effective leadership, operational efficiencies, and the transformative power of technology like AI.

Her insights, particularly on fostering a people-first approach and her involvement in mentorship programs, provide valuable guidance for business executives and partnership leaders looking to thrive amidst industry changes.

Here are the top 5 lessons learned from my discussion with Jennifer: