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  • Thank You Channel Champions for 7 Years of Impact

    Seven years ago, in December 2018, I launched Channel Journeys, on a mission to explore the stories behind the partnerships and partner leaders who shape our industry. My goal was to help all of us become better partnering professionals. Over the past 7 years, I’ve had so many incredible guests who’ve shared so much channel wisdom. This episode is a tribute to all of my guests who’ve joined me over the past 180 episodes. It’s a celebration of the voices that made this journey unforgettable. 

    I enjoyed meeting all of my guests. And what I found getting to know them was often something deeper than their channel story. I heard stories of grit, grace, and transformation. And that’s where I’m being pulled, to dig more into those stories of perseverance, endurance and coming out of failure and challenges stronger than ever.  

    Today, as I prepare to launch Bold Journeys, I want to pause and say thank you. Thank you to the guests who shared their wins and losses, challenges and successes. And thank you to all of you listeners who’ve joined me on this awesome journey.  

    KEY TAKEAWAYS

    Here are the top 10 lessons from the distinguished guests featured in this episode:

    1. Visionary Ecosystems – Jay McBain : Jay highlights the shift from transactional partnerships to transformational ecosystems. His insights remind us that modern channel programs are comprehensive ecosystems accommodating a diverse array of partnerships.

    2. Agile Collaboration – Rich Blakeman : Rich’s metaphor of ‘seagull behavior’ in sales emphasizes the need to embrace a hybrid approach. Collaborating with partners is essential to overcoming classic sales challenges.

    3. Relational Leadership – Theresa Caragol : Theresa’s belief in the exponential growth factor through trust and internal cultural transformation reshapes our approach to partnership growth.

    4. Cultural Alignment – Timm Hoyt : Tim emphasizes the importance of aligning leadership around a shared vision before executing the mission. This cultural foundation drives successful channel outcomes.

    5. Strategic Reinvention – Rajnikant Gupta : Raj teaches us that reinvention in channel strategy isn’t failure, but faith in motion. Building mind share and heart share within enterprises is essential.

    6. Embracing Change – Louise McEvoy : Louise shows us how courageously embracing change leads to growth and innovation. Her insights inspire leaders to face risks head-on and learn from experiences.

    7. Coachability – Bart Fanelli : Bart reminds us that being coachable is key to effective leadership. Collaboration and openness to learning facilitate stronger team dynamics.

    8. Ecosystem Leadership – Janet Schijns : Janet stresses targeting future-oriented connections to influence tomorrow’s behaviors, encouraging leaders to look beyond traditional networks.

    9. AI Leadership – Noelle Russell (Microsoft MVP, AI): Noel emphasizes the modern leader’s role in managing AI systems, highlighting clarity in communication and results-driven strategies in AI adoption.

    10. Empowering Partners – Jessica Baker : Jessica showcases how empowering partners with knowledge in AI and prompting skills enhances loyalty and trust, enriching partnership dynamics.

    Thank you for being a part of this journey and for contributing to its success. As we transition to Bold Journeys, we hope to delve into deeper stories of grit, adventure, and faith, drawing on all the invaluable lessons learned here. Until next time, be bold and have a great channel journey!

    The post Thank You Channel Champions for 7 Years of Impact first appeared on Channel Journeys.
    21 min
  • Navigating Co-opetition: From Rivals to Allies

    Figuring out co-opetition, especially with the hyperscalers, is one of the biggest challenges in partnering today. That’s why the number one top listened to Channel Journeys episode over the past 12 months is this one I had with Alan Chhabra. At the time of the interview, he was Executive Vice President of Worldwide Partners and International Sales at MongoDB. And he had figured out how to turn potential rivals into powerful allies.

    Our conversation delves deeply into the challenges and successes MongoDB has faced in navigating partnerships with hyperscalers like Microsoft, AWS, and Google – all while simultaneously competing with them.

    Alan sheds light on the nuanced strategy of “co-opetition” – where competition meets cooperation – and how MongoDB has managed to leverage partnerships for growth. This episode is essential listening for business executives and partnership leaders looking to understand the intricate balance of competition and collaboration in today’s technology-driven market landscape.

    KEY TAKEAWAYS

    Here are five important lessons I learned from my discussion with Alan Chhabra about managing partnerships and navigating the competitive landscape:

    1. Customer-Centric Focus in Strategy Decisions: Listening to customer demands is crucial. When faced with the decision to lean into or pull away from hyperscaler partnerships, MongoDB chose to strengthen those partnerships based on customer preferences. Customers wanted the flexibility to use MongoDB on platforms like Azure, prompting MongoDB to prioritize integration and collaboration over direct competition.
    2. Value of Strategic Product Integration: Alan highlighted that the first step toward a successful partnership with hyperscalers was making MongoDB products highly integrated and seamless to use. Their strategy focused on creating robust product experiences, such as integrating with Azure’s AI stack and Power BI, making their offerings irresistible to customers looking for functionality beyond native hyperscaler products.
    3. Effective Utilization of Marketplaces: Alan pointed out the importance of leveraging cloud marketplaces, where strategic partnerships can flourish. The compelling benefits for customers and sales teams alike lie in how marketplace transactions allow for retiring commitments and enhancing the purchasing process’s simplicity. This approach also served to add value for the hyperscalers involved, providing them with broader revenue streams through product attachment.
    4. Creating Mutual Financial Incentives for Success: A crucial element in MongoDB’s partnership strategy involved ensuring mutual financial benefit. Alan discussed how demonstrating a marketplace sale’s potential to attach additional Microsoft services added immense value, ensuring not only MongoDB’s growth but also incentivizing Microsoft’s sales teams to collaborate.
    5. Evolving Toward Partnership Over Competition: Throughout our conversation, Alan illustrated the evolution from a predominantly competitive relationship to a partner-driven one. By proving the value of cooperation through measurable successes and mutual benefits, MongoDB has positioned itself as a preferred partner within the hyperscaler ecosystem, successfully balancing competition with collaboration.
    6. LINKS & RESOURCES
        • Connect with Alan on LinkedIn
        • Listen to a Channel Pro Panel on the Impact of Hyperscalers on the Partner Ecosystem
        • The post Navigating Co-opetition: From Rivals to Allies first appeared on Channel Journeys.
          47 min
        • 5 Leadership Steps to Reinvigorate Your Channel

          In this last episode of our ChannelCon series, I have the opportunity to wrap up with MJ Shoer, the Chief Community Officer at GTIA. MJ’s role is pivotal as GTIA executes on it’s mission around community and innovation in technology.

          As someone deeply embedded in the fabric of GTIA, MJ provides unique insights into the organization’s current strides and future directions. Our conversation spans a wide array of topics, from the vibrancy of recent GTIA events to strategic preparations for the next generation of industry leaders. MJ’s reflections highlight a community-driven approach that integrates philanthropic efforts and engages both seasoned and upcoming professionals in the technology sector.

          The interview offers valuable insights for business executives and partnership leaders aiming to harness community engagement as a means to drive organizational growth and foster sustainable innovation. This conversation is also a testament to GTIA’s commitment to evolving and adapting in a rapidly changing technology landscape.

          KEY TAKEAWAYS

          Here are the top 5 lessons I learned from MJ Shoer about fostering an engaged community at GTIA:

          1. Revitalizing the Channel through Strategic Events: MJ underscores the success of ChannelCon, and the enthusiastic participation of GTIA members. After 201 days of hard work, the show not only met but exceeded expectations, symbolizing the return of a vibrant community atmosphere that extends beyond mere business networking.
          2. Acknowledging the Power of Leadership and Vision: With the strategic vision and leadership of Dan Wensley, GTIA has welcomed a new wave of energy and alignment. MJ highlights the importance of having a leadership team that complements and challenges each other. This combination has resulted in an environment where teams are empowered to exceed their capabilities, crossing boundaries and reaching unprecedented goals together.
          3. Building for the Next Generation: In recognizing the need to engage younger members of the industry, GTIA is actively planning initiatives to attract and nurture the next generation. By fostering mentorship programs and leadership opportunities, GTIA is laying down pathways for these individuals to aspire towards meaningful roles in the community, ensuring the organization’s longevity and relevance for years to come.
          4. Harnessing Philanthropy as a Community Binding Element: The integration of philanthropic efforts across GTIA’s activities has redefined the scope of member engagement. The organization’s commitment to impactful giving, driven by member recommendations and participatory decision-making, highlights a unique blend of community involvement that extends beyond business interests to making a real-world difference.
          5. Strategic Planning for Long-Term Success: As GTIA looks forward, there’s a strong emphasis on strategic planning and execution. With the successful conclusion of ChannelCon, the focus now shifts towards leveraging the momentum gained to take initiatives to new heights.
          6. LINKS & RESOURCES
              • Connect with MJ on LinkedIn
              • Listen to Charting GTIA’s Future with CEO Dan Wensley
              • Hear about Unlocking the Benefits of GTIA with MJ Shoer & Carolyn April
              • The post 5 Leadership Steps to Reinvigorate Your Channel first appeared on Channel Journeys.
                24 min
              • Leadership Secrets: CEO Jennifer Roy on Team Building and Innovation

                How do great companies thrive in the midst of massive industry and technology changes? What sort of leadership is required to energize employees and your customers? In this episode with Jennifer Roy, CEO of Nucleus Networks, we dive into the secrets of leadership in the rapidly evolving tech industry. Jennifer, who took over as CEO in January 2024, reflects on her leadership journey from her earlier role as COO starting in 2021.

                Based in Vancouver, Nucleus Networks strategically serves medium-sized businesses across various verticals including non-profit, architecture, engineering, and mining. Recorded live at ChannelCon, Jennifer shares her experiences and perspectives on effective leadership, operational efficiencies, and the transformative power of technology like AI.

                Her insights, particularly on fostering a people-first approach and her involvement in mentorship programs, provide valuable guidance for business executives and partnership leaders looking to thrive amidst industry changes.

                KEY TAKEAWAYS

                Here are the top 5 lessons learned from my discussion with Jennifer:

                1. The Significance of ‘People-First’ Leadership:  Jennifer emphasizes the importance of leading with kindness and putting people first in her leadership role. She believes that focusing on the well-being and development of her team members plays a crucial role in business success. This philosophy involves giving opportunities, providing coaching, and ensuring that employees feel valued and supported in their roles.
                2. Strategic Hiring for Operational Efficiency: One of the key operational highlights discussed is the timing of investment hires. Jennifer talks about the importance of discerning when to expand the team by identifying strategic points for hiring to enable leaders to shift their focus from working “in” the business to working “on” the business. This transition facilitates growth and allows companies to efficiently utilize their workforce.
                3. Leadership Through Mentorship: Jennifer shares her rewarding experience as a mentor within the GTIA mentorship program. She describes how mentorship is not just about giving, but also receiving invaluable insights and growth opportunities from mentees. This reciprocal learning experience highlights the importance of mentorship in professional development and its potential to provide mutual benefits.
                4. Embracing AI Responsibly: As the tech industry rapidly evolves, Jennifer discusses the growing role of AI and its responsible implementation. She talks about how her company integrates AI into their operations to enhance efficiency and creativity, underscoring the importance of developing a thoughtful strategy for AI deployment to benefit clients and the business alike.
                5. Adaptability and Continuous Evolution: Jennifer notes that 2025 is branded as the year to “evolve or die” at Nucleus Networks, indicating the significance of continual adaptation in the tech industry. She stresses the need for businesses to evolve and adapt to remain relevant and competitive, capturing how embracing change and growth strategies can prevent stagnation and promote long-term success.
                6. LINKS & RESOURCES
                    • Connect with Jennifer on LinkedIn
                    • Listen to Charting GTIA’s Future with CEO Dan Wensley
                    • Learn How to Achieve Customer-Centric Success with Brian Glahn
                    • The post Leadership Secrets: CEO Jennifer Roy on Team Building and Innovation first appeared on Channel Journeys.
                      18 min
                    • The Secrets to ScalePad’s MSP Success with CEO Chris Day

                      In one of my many conversations at ChannelCon, I had the opportunity to interview Chris Day, the co-founder and CEO of ScalePad. Chris offered a unique perspective into the evolving Managed Service Provider (MSP) landscape and shared his journey from the inception of his business to spearheading massive growth through strategic integration and technological advancements.

                      With a history of scaling businesses and making strategic acquisitions, Chris provides invaluable insights into the challenges and triumphs of navigating the rapidly-changing technology landscape. As Chris re-emerged as CEO, he emphasized the importance of collaboration, innovation, and leveraging technology—especially artificial intelligence (AI)—in crafting seamless business processes and enhancing customer relationships.

                      Chris’ insights offer a comprehensive guide for MSP business executives seeking to navigate growth, integration, and technological advancement with confidence. Listen in and hear the intricacies and potential of the MSP space, offering guidance and inspiration to business executives and partnership leaders aiming to thrive in this dynamic industry.

                      KEY TAKEAWAYS
                      1. Embrace a Unified Vision for Growth and Integration: Chris underscores the significance of streamlining processes and integrating acquisitions into a cohesive business model. In his journey with ScalePad, he transformed fragmented services into a multi-product platform, ensuring operational harmony and strategic growth. This approach not only streamlined business operations but also enhanced product offerings, ultimately providing a unified and efficient service experience for clients.
                      2. Prioritize Customer Success Post-Sale: A crucial insight from Chris centers on the importance of focusing on customer success beyond the initial sale. It’s not just about acquiring customers; the emphasis should be on retaining and growing these relationships. Chris advocates for a paradigm shift where MSPs excel in customer success by running effective Quarterly Business Reviews (QBRs) and engaging in meaningful boardroom discussions to drive ongoing value for clients. This approach ensures long-term customer retention and nurtures trust.
                      3. Leverage AI for Enhanced Customer Interaction: Chris highlights the role of AI in revolutionizing customer interaction within the MSP space. By employing AI, businesses can gain a deeper understanding of their clients and tailor their offerings to meet specific needs. AI-driven insights can assist MSPs in framing discussions that resonate with clients, thereby fostering stronger relationships and delivering solutions that align with industry-specific challenges.
                      4. The Power of Strategic Partnerships: One of the cornerstones of Chris’s success is the ability to foster robust partnerships. He emphasizes collaborating with strategic partners and leveraging shared resources to bolster service offerings. Through partnerships, businesses can extend their capabilities, reach new customer segments, and drive mutual growth. These collaborations create a more competitive ecosystem, benefiting all parties involved.
                      5. Future-Ready Mindset: Chris encourages a proactive approach to future industry trends. By anticipating technological shifts and market changes, organizations can navigate potential challenges and seize emerging opportunities. This forward-thinking mindset is crucial for ensuring long-term success and sustainability amid the evolving landscape of the MSP industry.
                      6. LINKS & RESOURCES
                          • Connect with Chris on LinkedIn
                          • Listen to Charting GTIA’s Future with CEO Dan Wensley
                          • Learn about The AI Evolution from MSP to MIP with Pax8’s Ryan Walsh
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                            The post The Secrets to ScalePad’s MSP Success with CEO Chris Day first appeared on Channel Journeys.
                            31 min
                          • Unlock the Power of AI for Partner Success with Jessica Baker

                            If you’ve been listening to the series of Channel Journeys podcasts recorded at ChannelCon, you’ll know that there was a lot of conversation around AI.  One of the most important and valuable discussions for partners and partner managers was around leveraging AI for partner success.

                            At the forefront of innovation around this topic stands Jessica Baker, the Chief Innovation Officer at AchieveUnite. I had the great pleasure of sitting down with Jessica and learning all about the work she is doing to learn as much as she can about AI and it’s ability to increase productivity and profitability in the partnering world.

                            This episode explores her unique perspective on leveraging AI to drive partner success and business innovation. Jessica’s role as an innovator involves applying existing technologies in novel ways to enhance business processes.

                            Highlighting her participation at Channel Con, Jessica shares how AI is reshaping how businesses operate, interact, and innovate. You’re going to hear about the transformative potential of generative AI, its integration into workflows, and the crucial role of prompt engineering.

                            Jessica’s perspective offers invaluable insights for business executives and partnership leaders eager to harness AI’s potential to enhance operational efficiency and strengthen partnerships.

                            KEY TAKEAWAYS

                            Here are 5 lessons learned from Jessica Baker on enhancing partner success through AI:

                            1. Understanding the Role of an Innovator: Jessica describes her role as Chief Innovation Officer as one that intertwines with the art of innovation rather than invention. She emphasizes taking existing technologies, like generative AI, and finding new applications that enhance business value. This involves seeing beyond the current capabilities of AI and envisioning transformative business processes.
                            2. Importance of Prompt Engineering: A key skill highlighted by Jessica is prompt engineering, which is essential for extracting meaningful, context-driven responses from AI systems. She has designed a certification program that trains individuals to effectively utilize AI in business contexts, underscoring the importance of teaching this skill to empower partners and facilitate AI adoption.
                            3. Integrating AI into Workflows: Jessica points out that the real advantage of AI comes when it is embedded into existing workflows, turning repetitive tasks into automated processes. By doing so, organizations can achieve higher efficiency and intelligence in their operations, from training to marketing, thereby freeing up time and resources for more strategic activities.
                            4. Trust and Human Element in AI Deployment: Trust is fundamental when integrating AI into business processes. Jessica highlights the necessity of building trust among internal teams and partners to ease transitions and offset apprehensions about AI replacing human roles. This approach ensures a smoother adoption process and maximizes the technology’s benefits.
                            5. Strategic Partner Empowerment: By focusing on empowering partners rather than just enabling them, Jessica advocates for providing partners with tools and skills to transform their business practices. This empowerment goes beyond transactional relationships, fostering deeper trust and collaboration, ultimately leading to more resilient and innovative partnerships.

                              LINKS & RESOURCES
                                • Connect with Jessica on LinkedIn
                                • Listen to the Secrets to Scaling AI Responsibly & Profitably with Noelle Russell
                                • Learn How to Build the Ultimate Partner Success Program with Jason Beal
                                •  

                                  The post Unlock the Power of AI for Partner Success with Jessica Baker first appeared on Channel Journeys.
                                  25 min

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