Grow Your Business and Grow Your Wealth

Bonus: Empathy and Leadership in Family Law


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What happens when legal strategy meets human understanding?

In this episode of Grow Your Business & Grow Your Wealth, guest host Barry Goldwater sits down with Lisa M. Cukier, Partner at Rubin Rudman LLP, to explore how empathy and expertise intersect in the world of family law, trust and estate matters, and fiduciary services.


Lisa shares how her concierge-level approach helps families and individuals manage life’s most sensitive transitions — from complex divorces and guardianships to multigenerational estate planning and wealth preservation. As both a strategist and advocate, she guides high-net-worth clients, fiduciaries, and family offices through deeply personal legal matters with discretion, insight, and heart.


Through decades of experience, Lisa has developed a unique blend of legal mastery and emotional intelligence — using creativity, collaboration, and compassion to help clients protect what matters most. Her approach reminds us that even in high-stakes law, humanity and clarity can lead the way.


💡 Key Takeaways
→ Why empathy is a strategic advantage in family and wealth law
 → How to protect clients’ interests in emotionally charged cases
 → Lessons from leadership and teamwork inside a major law firm
 → What “concierge-level” fiduciary service really looks like
 → How creativity and compassion can solve problems beyond the law


“When I meet with a client, I’m absorbing and intuiting — but I’m also plotting a path forward. The law gives me parameters, but real solutions come from creativity and compassion.” – Lisa M. Cukier
🎙️ Hosted by Barry Goldwater for Grow Your Business & Grow Your Wealth
Learn more about Lisa M. Cukier and her work at Rubin Rudman LLP:
👉 https://www.rubinrudman.com/attorney/lisa-m-cukier/

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