In this bonus episode, Kyle is interviewed by Belinda Drummond about the nature of a distinctively evangelical vision of contemplation. They discuss the theology of contemplation and its practical application for pastors and ministers. They explore the need for a contemplative life in the midst of a performative culture and the importance of deepening one's spirituality. They also discuss the Protestant tradition and the recovery of the beatific vision as a foundational aspect of contemplation. In this conversation, Kyle discusses the importance of contemplation and its historical significance. Kyle emphasizes the need to recover contemplation in evangelicalism, and highlights the role of scripture and theology in helping us understand what a distinctively Christian form of contemplation is. He also distinguishes between contemplation and contemplative prayer, cautioning against the confusion of these terms.

00:00 Introduction

10:37 Contemplation for Pastors and Ministers

29:26 Living by Faith and Reordering Life

38:55 The Theology of Contemplation

45:29 The Decline of Contemplation: Enlightenment and the Separation of Theology and Spirituality

57:16 The Relevance of Contemplation in Soul Care and Ministry

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