"'Cause you're hot then you're cold.

You're yes then you're no.

You're in then you're out.

You're up then you're down.

You're wrong when it's right.

It's black and it's white.

We fight, we break up.

We kiss, we make up."

Katy Perry said it best. In this episode, Laura and Nico discuss wishy washy relationships, whether it is possible to ever be "sure" you want to marry somebody, and whether there is such a thing as a relationship that is not chaotic.

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