Book Overflow

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the second half of Beyond Vibe Coding: From Coder to AI-Era Developer by Addy Osmani!

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Beyond Vibe Coding: From Coder to AI-Era Developer by Addy Osmani

https://amzn.to/47RZ5uB

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Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan

Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com

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Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!

The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan are joined by Patrick Debois, co-author of The DevOps Handbook!

Register for DevCon Fall 2025 here: https://ainativedev.io/devcon

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Nathan

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The DevOps Handbook

https://amzn.to/44tGqlX (paid link)

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Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325

X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod

Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan

Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com

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Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!

The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the second half of Advanced React by Nadia Makarevich!

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Carter

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Nathan

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Advanced React by Nadia Makarevich

https://amzn.to/4nZDwOk

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Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325

X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod

Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan

Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com

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Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!

The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the first half of Advanced React by Nadia Makarevich!

-- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! --

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Carter

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Nathan

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-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --

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Advanced React by Nadia Makarevich

https://amzn.to/4nZDwOk

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Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325

X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod

Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan

Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com

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Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!

The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

[We accidentally deleted this episode from audio, so this is a re-upload of the same content. Sorry!]

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the first half of Mastering OptenTelemetry and Observability by Steve Flanders!-- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! ------------------------------------------------------------Carterhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/carter-m-1Nathanhttps://www.joinleland.com/coach/nathan-t-2-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Mastering OpenTelemetry and Observatibiltyhttps://amzn.to/4nTzXJ1----------------Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5LApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpodCarter on X: https://x.com/cartermorganNathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com----------------Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the first half of Mastering OptenTelemetry and Observability by Steve Flanders!

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Carter

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Nathan

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Mastering OpenTelemetry and Observatibilty

https://amzn.to/4nTzXJ1

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Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325

X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod

Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan

Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com

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Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!

The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the first half of Mastering OptenTelemetry and Observability by Steve Flanders!

-- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! --

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Carter

https://www.joinleland.com/coach/carter-m-1

Nathan

https://www.joinleland.com/coach/nathan-t-2

-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --

Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

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Mastering OpenTelemetry and Observatibilty

https://amzn.to/4nTzXJ1

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Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L

Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325

X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod

Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan

Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com

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Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!

The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the second half of Radical Candor by Kim Scott! Join them as they discuss what makes a good boss, what makes up good feedback, and more!

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Carter

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Nathan

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Radical Candor

https://amzn.to/3HXRukj

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Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325

X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod

Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan

Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com

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Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!

The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the first half of Radical Candor by Kim Scott! Join them as they discuss what makes a good boss, what makes up good feedback, and more!

-- Want to talk with Carter or Nathan? Book a coaching session! --

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Carter

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Nathan

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-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --

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Radical Candor

https://amzn.to/3HXRukj

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00:00 Intro

02:07 About the Book and Author

03:06 Initial Thoughts on Radical Candor Part 1

13:00 The Four Quadrants Framework

21:26 Ruinous Empathy - The Career Destroyer

32:39 Bringing Your Whole Self to Work

46:36 Rock Stars vs Superstars

1:03:18 Hot Takes

1:08:49 Final Thoughts and Recommendations

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Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325

X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod

Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan

Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com

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Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!

The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss Finite and Infinite Games by James P. Carse! Join them as they discuss the difference between finite and infinite games, the book's philosophy, and how on earth this all relates to software engineering.

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Finite and Infinite Games by James P. Carse

https://amzn.to/4649Fg4

Lecture referenced in the episode:

https://www.audible.com/pd/The-Finite-and-Infinite-Games-Audiobook/1615449906

Comments section that includes Mitchell Hashimoto AI discussion

https://lobste.rs/s/pqy0pp/where_s_shovelware_why_ai_coding_claims

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00:00 Intro

00:57 About the Book and Author

03:35 Initial Thoughts on Finite and Infinite Games

10:33 The Core Thesis - Finite vs Infinite Games

21:37 The Genius of Myself

34:50 The Sexuality Chapter Discussion

45:15 Machines vs Gardens - Control and Nature

56:30 Waste as Product

1:03:52 AI and Tech Debt - Trading Drudgery

1:11:25 Hot Takes

1:17:33 Final Thoughts

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X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod

Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan

Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com

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Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week!

The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io