Kim's listening to the band Chicago, Jenn wants to talk about spaghetti squash — on loving all things boring and uncool. Plus! Complicated sibling relationships, answering a listener's question about shoes, the pleasures of watching shows about women over 40, laser treatments, Sandra Oh, podcasts we love and, weirdly, a whole lot more. 

In this episode:

Calzuro clogs

Sorel Lennox boot

Dr Martens Chelsea boot 

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