In this episode, Rob and Vinnie sit down again with Bernard Emerson to discuss his work in starting a multi-ethnic church in Oakland, CA. We explore the challenges and joys of blending two congregations from different racial backgrounds, the role of the church in addressing race and justice, and what it takes to build a truly inclusive faith community. Join us for a powerful conversation on unity, reconciliation, and the gospel’s call to love across racial and cultural lines.

Here is the link for Bernard's podcast 

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