In this episode, Kelli and special guest co-host Colleen McCreary go from 0 to 100 with David Heinemeier Hansson (DHH), creator of Ruby on Rails and co-founder of 37signals (Basecamp). The discussion covers 37signals’ radical policies and the “no politics at work” policy that got them canceled on Twitter after corporate America “went woke”. They also discuss the no managers rule that embraces more efficiency in a limited 40 hour work week and why overworking is a dated mindset. David also talks about his love of programming and the development of Ruby on Rails through his unique approach, and how it went on to impact other programmers.

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DHH: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-heinemeier-hansson-374b18221/

Nolan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nolan-church/

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Preview

(05:00) Creating Ruby on Rails: DHH's Experience

(10:00) Making Your Code Sing

(12:31) The Role of Management

(14:34) Sponsor - Attio

(16:21) Code is Easy, People are Hard - Aligning and Developing Philosophies

(20:50) Refining the Work Week and How to Get More Out of It

(25:53) Having a Creative Space Within a 40-hour Work Week

(31:01) Office Work vs Remote Work

(34:27) Discussing Diversity and Choices in Companies

(36:10) Wokeness and Surviving Cancel Culture

(41:42) The Importance of Clarity and Identity

(47:18) Radical Candor

(50:54) The Misinterpretation of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion

(56:58) Honest Conversations in the Workplace

(59:50) DHH's Take on the HR Profession

(01:05:35) Wrap—

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LINKS:

Radical Candor by Kim Scott

DHH's Writing: https://world.hey.com/dhh

Employee Handbook: https://basecamp.com/handbook

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