The meaning of the Australian flag has changed in its 124 years of use, and debate around it is kicking off after its prominence at controversial anti-immigration rallies. 

So has the Australian flag become a weapon of division in this country? 

And we chat with Luke Bateman about his #BookTok fame, why he doesn't reflect fondly on his time in the NRL, and how he overcame gambling addiction.

Listen now:

01:05 - Should burning the flag be a crime?

04:45 - The history of the Australian flag

10:30 - Sitting down with Luke Bateman

Guests: 

• Dr Benjamin Jones, historian, CQU
• Luke Bateman, former NRL player and BookTok influencer

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