“Great leaders do not just share information. They create enough safety for real dialogue.”
In this special episode of Business is Human, Rebecca Fleetwood Hession shares a conversation from her appearance as a guest on Marketing B-Sides, the podcast hosted by Tom Hootman, Founder & CEO of Mixtape Digital. Together, they break down what leadership really looks like beneath the surface, from burnout and communication to nervous system regulation, self-awareness, and the patterns that keep high performers stuck. Through honest reflection, practical insight, and real examples from business, Rebecca offers a grounded perspective on how leaders can care for themselves, communicate more effectively, and lead with greater clarity and humanity.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
- Why burnout is often tied to misalignment, not just workload
- How better questions and real dialogue create stronger buy-in and trust
- Why caring for yourself is not separate from leadership, but central to it
Things to listen for:
(00:00) Introduction
(01:26) Rebecca joins Tom on Marketing B-Sides
(05:06) The songs that tell Rebecca’s story
(11:53) What dysregulation really means
(13:34) How leaders’ needs have changed over time
(21:05) Running from pain or moving toward purpose
(23:50) Why familiar pain can feel safer than change
(26:25) What real self-care looks like for leaders
(29:55) The trap of external validation
(31:55) Understanding the two kinds of tired
(35:36) Why top performers burn out
(37:37) Communication is more than talking
(44:12) The one-on-ones that build trust
Connect with Tom:
Website: https://www.mixtapedigital.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomashootman/
Listen to Marketing B-Sides: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-marketing-b-sides/id1832517490
Connect with Rebecca:
https://www.rebeccafleetwoodhession.com/