Dr. Ashby Monk is the Executive & Research Director of the Stanford Research Initiative on Long-Term Investing. Ashby has studied and advised the largest asset owners in the world for more than twenty years with a particular interest in how to improve outcomes for their beneficiaries and the world. Ash also serves as the Head of Research at Addepar, a fintech company that helps investors make smarter decisions. He has twice appeared on the show – as the 29th guest back in 2017 and again two years ago – and those conversations are replayed in the feed.

Our conversation starts with a recent paper Ashby published called Investor Identity: The Ultimate Driver of Returns. We discuss the descriptors of identity and enabling factors that determine each investor's fingerprint. From there, we dive into technology as an enabler and how technological innovation can improve returns. We then turn to ESG investing and another of Ashby's recent papers, Submergence = Drawdown + Recovery, that discusses the importance of considering the combined drawdown and recovery period in making investment decisions.

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Dr. Ashby Monk is the Executive and Research Director of the Stanford University Global Projects Center. He is also a Senior Research Associate at the University of Oxford, a Senior Advisor to the Chief Investment Officer of the University of California, and the co-founder of Long Game. Ashby advises sovereign wealth funds and large pension funds, and is involved with a bunch of fin tech companies, all of which attempt to create innovative solutions to fixing the financial future for individuals, pensions and countries in the years ahead.

Our conversation starts with Ashby's early work experience and path through academia, and flows into an exploration of next generation, lower cost approaches to active management for large asset owners. We touch on investing in public equity, private equity, venture capital, and hedge funds using examples from the Canadian and Australian pensions, New Zealand Super Fund, and University of California endowment. Lastly, we discuss Long Game, an innovative company seeking to improve personal savings in the U.S. Ashby is a passion-driven, creative thinker who rightfully has the ear of some of the most important pools of capital in the world. His ideas will change the way you think about allocating capital.

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Today's episode continues our ongoing mini-series covering organizations that have proven to be great training grounds of talent. There may be none larger and quieter than Capital Group, the $3.2 trillion global asset manager whose 650-person investment team and 9,400 associates have historically experienced a fraction of the turnover of industry norms.

My guest is Mike Gitlin, the CEO of Capital Group, known for its long-term philosophy, private ownership, and multi-manager investment system. Founded in 1931 by Johnathan Bell Lovelace, Capital Group is one of the industry's largest and most enduring active managers. Mike joined the firm as a lateral hire in 2015, after more than two decades across the buy side, sell side, hedge funds, and global markets.

Our exploration of Capital Group covers Mike's path through the investment industry, Capital's approach to recruiting and training talent, ownership model, client-centric focus, Capital System investment model, organization of a large, global team, and new product development. We close with Capital Group's five-year strategic plan as it approaches the firm's hundred-year anniversary in 2031.

I've been fascinated by Capital for most of my life, as it was the professional home for my uncle, the late Jim Rothenberg, for his entire 45 year career. It is a privilege for me to share this conversation with memories of Uncle Jim in mind.

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We're counting down the top 5 episodes of 2025. Coming in at #1 is the legend, Howard Marks from Oaktree. I waited a while to have Howard on the show to capture a moment where one of his Memos particularly caught my eye. That happened when he wrote 'Gimme Credit' earlier this year. We dive into his thoughts on the implications of the growth of private credit for investors.

With that, I hope you sprint to the finish line of this year with all the gusto in your soul, and come out on the other side of the ball drop with renewed excitement, aspirations, and energy for the year ahead.

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We're counting down the top 5 episodes of 2025. At #2 is Ian Charles from Arctos Partners. Before founding Arctos alongside Doc O'Connor to dominate the sports investing sector, Ian spent his career creating liquidity solutions in private markets. Arctos' second strategy goes back to his roots, providing solutions for GPs. In all of his work, Ian is intensively research and data-driven, and he brings that to bear to describe the current state of private market businesses.

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We're counting down the top 5 episodes of 2025. Coming in at #3 is Tim Sullivan. Tim joined the Yale Investments Office in 1986, a year after David Swensen arrived, and retired this year. In his 39 years in the saddle, he led Yale's private equity investing, which was the biggest return driver in the biggest success story over the last four decades. He shares four decades worth of wisdom and insights in our conversation.

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For this year's annual review, our CEO Hank and I cover investment trends across private and public markets and top-of-mind issues for allocators. We then discuss highlights of the podcast and our efforts to improve discoverability of great episodes, outstanding asset management fintech products, and Capital Allocators University.

With the Year in Review, we also kick off our countdown of the most popular episodes of 2025. We'll drop two this week and the top three next week.

Wishing you a relaxing, enjoyable, and very happy holiday!

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We're counting down the top 5 episodes of 2025. Coming in at #5, is Adrian Meli from Eagle Capital. It's a fun, nuanced exploration of applying the most sophisticated tools of hedge fund investing to long only public equities.

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We're counting down the top 5 episodes of 2025. At #4, it's Alex Sacerdote from Whale Rock Capital. Alex is a passionate TMT investor who describes how he finds companies ascending their S-curve of adoption.

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Matthew Dicks is a bestselling author, award-winning storyteller, and consultant on storytelling to Fortune 500 companies, including four of the Mag 7, and nonprofits, including Yale, Harvard, and the FBI. His bestselling books, Storyworthy and its business companion, Stories Sell, are my favorite books on storytelling. Matt spent a decade as a manager at McDonalds, twenty years as a wedding DJ, and will retire this year after 27 years as a middle school teacher. He's written six fiction and three non-fiction books in total and won a record 62 MOTH StorySLAM competitions and nine GrandSLAM championships.

Our conversation starts where it should – with Matt telling a story. We then go through his process of finding great stories, constructing the beginning, end, and path along the way, enhancing elements, and giving presentations.

Matt has gifts for both storytelling and teaching, and that combination offers incredible lessons to apply storytelling in our work. After his retirement in June, Matt will be more available to help others tell impactful stories. You can find him at matthewdicks.com or storyworthy.com.

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