Care More Be Better: A Podcast For Sustainable Social Impact and Regeneration

By Corinna BellizziSociety & Culture Documentary Science Earth Sciences

Care More Be Better: A Podcast For Sustainable Social Impact and Regeneration episodes

October 12Can Tenure Be More Humane? Ethics Of Care With Dr. Shawntal Brown
Shawntal Z. Brown once wore the burnt orange blazer and bought into every part of the institution she worked for. After being laid off in 2024 amid a shifting legislative landscape in Texas, she began writing about what that experience taught her, and the result is a Substack with one of the most honest titles in higher education: Loving an Institution That No Longer Loves You Back.
In this conversation, Shawntal and Corinna explore how belonging, power, and care play out inside universities, and why the tenure system, built to evaluate and rank people, struggles to center their humanity. They look at what a care-centered version of tenure might reward, including the community service that one professor was actually criticized for doing too much of. Shawntal shares what academic freedom looks like day to day in Texas, why DEI work is quietly moving underground rather than disappearing, and how to tell a symbolic gesture from structural change. Her answer is a task force that ends in a period when it should end in a comma.
The episode closes with a question for anyone who loves an institution that has not always loved them back: what is the cost, and what would it take to make these places more humane for the people inside them?
Time Stamps By Topic
02:10 Loving An Institution That Doesn't Love You Back
04:17 Exploring Power, Belonging, And Care In Institutional Life
11:47 The Complex Realities Of Tenure And Institutional Support
19:55 The Impact Of State Legislation On Academic Freedom
37:16 Redefining Service And Community Engagement
41:22 The Chilling Effect On Classroom Teaching And Academic Freedom
50:30 Moving Beyond Performative Task Forces Into Real Action
55:25 Recalibrating Expectations And The Future Of Higher Education
Resources and links
Shawntal Z. Brown on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawntalbrown/

Shawntal Z. Brown on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shawntalzbrown.phd/

Loving an Institution That No Longer Loves You Back (Substack): https://lovinganinstitution.substack.com/

Ethics of Care: Can Tenure Be More Humane?: https://lovinganinstitution.substack.com/p/ethics-of-care-can-tenure-be-more

“Are we going to have a legacy or be forgotten?”: Organizational memory in an anti-DEI era, by Shawntal Z. Brown: https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fdhe0000735

PEN America: https://pen.org/

Texas Association of Diversity Officers in Higher Education: https://www.tadohe.com/

American Association of University Professors: https://www.aaup.org/

Iván Chaar López: https://www.ivanchaar.net/

Brian Evans on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-evans-58a2b76

Diane Gifford-Gonzalez on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/diane-gifford-gonzalez-780522222

The Bell Jar by Sylvia Plath: https://www.amazon.com/Bell-Jar-Modern-Classics/dp/0060837020
CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER
Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-better
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1 hr 4 min
October 07Is Eco-Capitalism an Oxymoron? A Report From the Field with Dr. Corinna Bellizzi
Is eco-capitalism an oxymoron? In this solo episode, show host, Dr. Corinna Bellizzi, opens with big news: Care More Be Better has joined The Democracy Group podcast network. From there, she turns to a question that has followed her through her entire career. She steelmans the skeptic, who sees growth mandates and externalized costs as structural flaws no ethical CEO can outrun, and the believer, who sees commerce as a lever too fast and too powerful to abandon. Then she offers a report from the field: building Nordic Naturals into a $100 million market leader, the compromises that came with it, the ocean science that led her to walk away, and the algae-based work at Örlö Nutrition that shows what regeneration can look like when it is built into a company's structure. She closes with three votes every listener casts daily, as a consumer, a worker, and an investor.
Episode blog page with transcript:
https://caremorebebetter.com/is-eco-capitalism-an-oxymoron-a-report-from-the-field/
In this episode, Corinna explores:
00:00 Why Care More Be Better joined The Democracy Group, and why sustainability is a democratic question

04:47 Can Markets & Ecology Coexist?

05:51 The skeptic's case: growth mandates, externalities, and why "sustainable capitalism" so often means sustaining capitalism (and not regeneration)

08:22 Ben & Jerry's: the skeptic's case in a single pint. How Ben & Jerry's mission protections held for two decades after they sold, then unraveled under Unilever's shift to sectioning off their ice cream business under Magnum

11:17 The believer's case: B Corps, regenerative farms, Patagonia's ownership shift, and the speed of market change

15:10 Building Nordic Naturals with founder Joar Opheim, and the compromises even responsible companies make

18:18 Examples of compromises: Fisheries, dolphins, PET plastic

20:54 Ocean acidification & the emergence of algae-based nutrition solutions

24:52 Circle B and how VAXA Technologies, Örlö Nutrition, and growing omega-3s with geothermal energy and circular design serve to make regeneration foundational

28:41 Reframing the question from sustainable to regenerative commerce

31:04 Three votes you cast every day: as consumer, worker, and investor

34:45 Why supporting higher education, including cause partner Prescott College, matters right now
Resources and Links
The Democracy Group: https://www.democracygroup.org/

Prior Episode: Finding Common Ground in Hard Conversations with Corey Nathan: https://caremorebebetter.com/finding-common-ground-in-hard-conversations-with-corey-nathan/

Prior Episode: How Corporations Socialize Costs in The Profiteers with Christopher Marquis: https://caremorebebetter.com/how-corporations-socialize-costs-in-the-profiteers-with-christopher-marquis/

The Profiteers: How Business Privatizes Profits and Socializes Costs by Christopher Marquis: https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/christopher-marquis/the-profiteers/9781668641583/

Ben & Jerry's co-founder Jerry Greenfield resigns (NBC News): https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/ben-jerrys-co-founder-jerry-greenfield-resigns-unilever-campaigning-rcna231819

Ben & Jerry's vs. Magnum: Timeline of the Governance Dispute (Dairy Reporter): https://www.dairyreporter.com/Article/2026/02/04/ben-jerrys-vs-magnum-timeline-of-the-governance-dispute/

Patagonia: Earth Is Now Our Only Shareholder: https://www.patagonia.com/ownership/

Vitamin Angels: https://vitaminangels.org/

Banking on Climate Chaos 2026 report (Sierra Club): https://www.sierraclub.org/press-releases/2026/06/new-report-global-banks-financed-fossil-fuels-87-trillion-paris-agreement

Örlö Nutrition: https://orlonutrition.com/

Isaac Berzin and VAXA (EIT Food): https://eitfood.eu/impact-story/isaac-berzin-vaxa

Circle B: https://circleb.co/

Prescott College: https://prescott.edu/
CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER
Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-better
CAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/

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38 min
September 30 Shame Is Not A Health Plan: Coach Bill Hogarty On Our Kids and Families
NOTE: This episode is intended for informational and entertainment purposes. Neither the host or guest are medical professionals, so this episode should not be construed as health advice. It not intended to treat, diagnose, or cure any health condition. N If you have specific concerns, please consult with your healthcare professional.
Coach Bill Hogarty spent most of his life in peak condition, won twelve bodybuilding titles including Mr. California, and assumed he understood health. Then a shoulder injury sidelined him, he gained weight, and he learned what it feels like to be on the other side of the gym floor. That experience gave him something his training never had: empathy. Today he channels it into the Kids Diabetes Foundation, built on a conviction that childhood insulin resistance is preventable and that telling a struggling parent they are failing their kid will never work. In this candid conversation, Bill and Corinna trade notes as two people who have spent decades in health and fitness, and they do not always agree. They dig into why BMI is a poor marker while A1C and body composition tell a truer story, why muscle functions as an endocrine organ that protects us as we age, and why abstinence-based rules tend to backfire while moderation sticks. Corinna pushes back on the language of shame and on the toll that diet culture took on her own generation, and Bill meets her there. Along the way you will pick up practical, low-drama tactics: let your kid pick one thing from the produce aisle and build a meal around it, walk 30 minutes a day with someone you love, and learn one number that most doctors never order.
CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER
Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-better
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57 min
September 23 Climate And Code: Bridging The Digital Divide In Disaster Recovery With Monica Sanders
When natural disasters strike, marginalized communities are often left behind without access to essential recovery resources or digital infrastructure. In her groundbreaking book Climate and Code: Building a Digital and Connected Climate-Resilient Future, Georgetown University Law Center professor and National Geographic Explorer Monica Sanders explores how law, community wisdom, and technology can bridge this gap to build disaster equity. Monica Sanders, founder of The Undivide Project, joins us for an insightful conversation on redefining resilience from the ground up. Drawing from her personal experience surviving Hurricane Katrina to examining digital redlining and community-led initiatives in Panama and Baltimore, Monica highlights why digital access is a critical lifeline during extreme weather events. Discover how centering local knowledge and co-creating digital solutions can empower communities to withstand environmental crises and shape a more resilient future.
COMPLETE BLOG & TRANSCRIPT: https://caremorebebetter.com/climate-and-code-bridging-the-digital-divide-in-disaster-recovery-with-monica-sanders/
About Guest:
Monica C. Sanders, JD, LL.M., is a law professor, author, journalist, and social entrepreneur working at the intersection of climate resilience, technology, and justice. A New Orleans native whose work was shaped by Hurricane Katrina, she founded The Undivide Project to help communities use digital infrastructure and data to strengthen disaster resilience, and Bonne Terre Labs to build decision-intelligence tools for more responsible infrastructure investment. Sanders teaches at Georgetown University Law Center, is a National Geographic Explorer and Forbes Senior Contributor, and previously held senior disaster, homeland security, and humanitarian roles in government and at the American Red Cross. Her new book, Climate and Code, explores how law and technology can help build a more resilient and equitable future.
Guest Website: https://www.monicacsanders.com
Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/monicasanders12/
Guest Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/monicadrrprof/
Guest YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theundivideproject4007/videos
Resources Mentioned:
BOOK: Climate and Code: Building Digital Justice in a Connected World
Chapters with Time Stamps:
02:40 How Hurricane Katrina Shaped Disaster Resilience And Equity
07:38 Valuing Natural Systems: The Barataria Estuary As Environmental Infrastructure
12:14 Designing Technology With Communities, Not For Them
20:18 Digital Access As A Critical Component Of Climate Resilience
28:51 Data Centers, Hyperscale Tech, And Environmental Justice
38:27 Climate And Code: Leveraging AI Responsibly Without Losing Human Innovation
48:06 Actionable Steps To Build Equitable Community Resilience
CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER
Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-better
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1 hr
September 18Can AI Be Used Responsibly? The Ethics of Care in a Machine Age with Corinna Bellizzi, PhD, MBA
Almost every conversation about AI is about power — what it can do, what jobs it will replace, and who it will enrich. Almost no one is asking what it would mean to bring care to this technology. In this solo episode of Care More Be Better, host Corinna Bellizzi, PhD, draws on Carol Gilligan's ethics of care, her own doctoral research into regenerative enterprise, and her personal experience using Claude and ChatGPT in dissertation research to make the case that AI can be an amplifier of care — but only with intention, transparency, and accountability. She covers the copyright settlement Anthropic reached with authors in July 2026, the attention question, the RFK Jr. MAHA report hallucinations, and the four questions everyone should ask before adopting any AI tool.
Complete Blog: https://caremorebebetter.com/can-ai-be-used-responsibly-the-ethics-of-care-in-a-machine-age/
Chapter Markers
00:00 — Opening Question: What Does It Mean to Care When Machines Mediate How We Learn?

01:00 — Introduction: A Solo Episode on AI Ethics

02:00 — AI Is Already in Your Life Whether You Chose It or Not

03:00 — What Ethics of Care Actually Is — Gilligan, Noddings, and the Care Tradition

05:00 — Ethics of Care and Regeneration as Near-Synonyms

05:30 — The Care Questions AI Raises: Copyright, Ecology, Labor, Attention

06:00 — The Copyright Reckoning: Anthropic's $1.5B Settlement and 35+ Active Cases

06:30 — The Ecological Footprint: Water, Energy, and Whose Community Hosts the Data Center

07:00 — The Labor Question: Whose Words Trained the Model?

07:30 — The Attention Question: What Happens to Wonder When Answers Arrive Instantly?

08:00 — The Whale Bends Story — and What Was Lost

10:00 — Using AI in Doctoral Research: Building Intelligent Queries

12:00 — Claude vs. ChatGPT: The Hallucination Problem

13:30 — The RFK Jr. MAHA Report: What Happens When Nobody Checks

14:00 — Using Claude for the RSD15 Paper: Editing Without Outsourcing the Thinking

16:00 — AI in Podcast Production and the Disclosure Question

17:30 — The Website Disclaimer: What It Says and Why

18:30 — AI as Amplifier of Care — Used With Intention

19:00 — Four Questions to Ask Before Adopting Any AI Tool

20:00 — The Freedom Not to Use AI: Your Integrity Is Yours

20:30 — Closing: Embracing Technology with Intention, Purpose, and Integrity
"Ethics of care moves us from thinking in rules and regulations, in inputs and outputs, to who is affected and what do they need. This show's name is essentially a care ethics thesis. Care more, be better. The order matters. You have to care first."
— Corinna Bellizzi, PhD | Care More Be Better | Episode #301
Resources and References:
In a Different Voice — Carol Gilligan (1982)

Caring: A Feminine Approach to Ethics — Nel Noddings (1984)

The Ethics of Care — Virginia Held (2006)

Regeneration: Ending the Climate Crisis — Paul Hawken

Anthropic copyright settlement — Reuters

MAHA Commission report — Washington Post coverage

RSD15 Conference — Relating Systems Thinking and Design

Claude — Anthropic

DuckDuckGo — AI-free search option

Brave Search

Startpage

AI Disclosure — caremorebebetter.com

Scary Smart — Mo Gawdat

From Ideas to Income with AI — Zach & Jason Francis, Ep. 296 (previous episode)
CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER
Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-better
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23 min
September 15 Getting Unstuck: Facilitation, And The Work Of Values Alignment With Genevieve Smith
Many social change organizations struggle to bridge the gap between the values displayed on their office walls and the actual practices in their daily operations. Achieving true values alignment requires navigating deep humanity, conflict, and the inevitable shame that arises during transitional periods. In this episode, host Corinna Bellizzi sits down with Genevieve Smith, an organizational effectiveness consultant and founder of GV Advisory. Genevieve shares her unique approach as a "professional bummer" who facilitates difficult but necessary conversations around power sharing, organizational grief, and leadership transitions. She explains how drawing inspiration from preschool classrooms and using tools like the community garden metaphor can help teams get unstuck, build trust, and move from panic to practical solutions.
Full Blog Here: https://caremorebebetter.com/getting-unstuck-facilitation-and-the-work-of-values-alignment-with-genevieve-smith/
About Guest: Genevieve Smith is an organizational effectiveness consultant using a facilitative approach to her work with foundations and nonprofit organizations. She collaborates with companies on organizational effectiveness efforts, staff and board retreats, and helps them navigate conflict and grief. Genevieve's work tends to make the most sense for organizations in transition who have big questions about how to move forward and what to leave behind.
Guest Website: https://gv-advisory.com
Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gvadvisorygv/
Additional Resources Mentioned:
• The Revolution WIll Not Be Funded, INCITE! https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-revolution-will-not-be-funded-beyond-the-non-profit-industrial-complex-incite-women-of-color-against-incite/381bf42fe2436b30
• The Success Spectrum, Eugene Kim (of the collaboration gym): https://fasterthan20.com/workout/success-spectrum/
• Creative Destruction, Liberating Structures: https://www.liberatingstructures.com/creative-destruction
Chapter Markers:
01:04 The Evolution Of A "Professional Bummer" In Organizational Effectiveness
06:58 Navigating Massive Transitional Moments And Organizational Crisis
12:06 The AI Disruption: The Danger Of Polished Plans Over Rough Drafts
17:58 Grappling With Wealth And Philanthropy In The Social Sector
27:50 Power Sharing Vs. Abdication: Explaining "Power Under"
37:05 Tending To Acute Organizational Grief And Leadership Departures
42:00 The Myth Of Neutrality: How Everyday Actions Build Or Erode Trust
50:23 Getting Unstuck: Practical Tools And Experiments For Staff And Leadership
CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER
Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-better
CAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/

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58 min
September 09Fit For Life At Any Age: Chef Babette Davis On Healing Addiction, Inflammation, And Poor Health
This bonus episode revisits Corinna's Nutrition Without Compromise conversation with Chef Babette Davis, who was interviewed on Care More Be Better as Episode 174 in February 2024, roughly 6 months after this BONUS episode was originally recorded and shared on Nutrition Without Compromise. In this episode, they discuss:
Babette's childhood: asthma, eczema, refined sugar and MSG addiction inherited from her mother's cooking

The rough road through her 20s and 30s, including a seven-month battle with crack cocaine

Meeting Randall in 1990: the Griffith Park run, her first vegan meal, and the two books that changed everything (Fit for Life and the Mucusless Diet Healing System)

Food combining principles and why "mucus" is about systemic inflammation, not just congestion

Honest talk on protein, B12, and omega-3s for plant-based eaters, plus personalizing nutrition through simple at-home testing

Building Stuff I Eat, Inglewood's first vegan restaurant, and her advocacy with Mercy for Animals
Notable quote: "All you have to do is have a little bit of knowledge of what foods to eat together that will eliminate so much of your indigestion." / "At 73 years old, I don't have to harm anyone to nourish myself."
Resources:
Chef Babette on Instagram: https://instagram.com/chefbabette

Chef Babette on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@chefbabette

Stuff I Eat (Inglewood, CA): https://www.stuffieat.com/

Cash In On Cashews by Chef Babette Davis

Fit for Life by Harvey Diamond: https://www.amazon.com/Fit-Life-Harvey-Diamond/dp/0446300152/

Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret: https://www.amazon.com/Mucusless-Diet-Healing-System-Scientific/dp/1884772005
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Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-better
CAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/

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54 min
September 02Inspired and Enraged: Wayne Pacelle on the War on Wildlife
The federal government plans to kill 450,000 barred owls over 30 years to protect the northern spotted owl — while simultaneously narrowing the definition of harm under the Endangered Species Act to allow old-growth forest logging that will destroy the spotted owl's habitat.
Wayne Pacelle, president of Animal Wellness Action and the Center for Humane Economy, joins Corinna Bellizzi to expose the timber industry logic behind both moves. Together, they explain what's happening to wild horses and wolves on America's public lands, and share what 35 years of animal protection work has taught Wayne about how a slippery slope can lead to environmental devastation. We must act to protect America's open spaces and wild habitats.
00:00 — Introduction: The Spotted Owl, the Barred Owl, and the Question of Whose Fault It Is

04:00 — The 14-Mile Zone of Life: How Much Room Do We Actually Share?

06:00 — The Northern Spotted Owl: History, Habitat, and the Timber Wars

10:00 — The Barred Owl Is Not Invasive: The Range-Expansion Argument

14:00 — Human Beings Crossed the Bering Land Bridge: Applying the Same Logic

18:00 — The Plan to Shoot 450,000 Owls: Why It Won't Work

20:00 — The Endangered Species Act: How the Definition of Harm Is Being Gutted

23:00 — The One Big Beautiful Bill and the 60% Timber Increase

27:00 — Old Growth Redwoods, Carbon, and the True Cost of Logging

30:00 — The Lawsuit and What Comes Next

32:00 — Wild Horses: 80,000 vs. 4.3 Million Cattle

36:00 — Wolves: Delisted for Politics, Hunted by Snowmobile

37:00 — Fertility Control as a Humane Alternative

39:00 — Why Every Animal Sequesters Carbon

40:00 — The Migratory Bird Treaty Act and Its Origins

44:00 — The Environmental Groups That Got This Wrong

47:00 — Direct Mail, Organizational Efficiency, and the 95% Program Model

50:00 — What Animal Wellness Action Has Actually Accomplished

53:00 — Wildfires, Forest Management, and Fossil Fuels

57:00 — The Colorado River and the Water Crisis

01:00:00 — What You Can Do: Congress, Donations, and Showing Up

01:02:00 — Closing: Inspired and Enraged
Resources
Wayne Pacelle on LinkedIn

Animal Wellness Action — animalwellnessaction.org

Center for Humane Economy — humaneeconomy.org

Wayne Pacelle on X

Wayne Pacelle on Instagram

The Bond — Wayne Pacelle

The Humane Economy — Wayne Pacelle

Action Alert: Barred Owl Kill Plan

Action Alert: Endangered Species Act Definition of Harm

Donate to Animal Wellness Action

Aldo Leopold — A Sand County Almanac

Bill McKibben on Ezra Klein Show
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1 hr 8 min
August 26 How Corporations Socialize Costs To Become Profiteers With Christopher Marquis
For decades, large corporations have privatized their massive profits while quietly shifting environmental, social, and health costs onto the public. Unpacking these systemic costs is central to the discussion in The Profiteers, which diagnoses how business practices impact society at large. In this episode, host Corinna Bellizzi speaks with Christopher Marquis, Professor of Chinese Management at the University of Cambridge Judge Business School and author of Better Business, to analyze the hidden mechanics of corporate externalities. From plastics lobbying and regulatory co-optation to visionary models of regenerative agriculture and foundation ownership, they explore why exposing systemic corporate abuse is the first crucial step toward real reform. Discover how innovative enterprise models, policy levers, and conscious consumer choices can help build a truly sustainable and regenerative economy.
About Guest: Professor Marquis’ research and teaching focus on how some of the biggest crises of our day – including climate change, inequality, and discrimination – are intimately connected to how our current economic and societal systems prioritize accumulating and concentrating wealth for the few over the concerns and needs of everyone and everything else. His research and writing focus on the need to rebalance the interactions between corporations, governments, and civil society to deliver socially and environmentally beneficial outcomes to all. Marquis is the author of The Profiteers: How Business Privatizes Profits and Socialize Costs. His earlier books include the award-winning Better Business: How the B Corp Movement is Remaking Capitalism and Mao and Markets: The Communist Roots of Chinese Enterprise, which was a Financial Times Best Book of 2022. He has also authored more than 20 peer-reviewed academic articles and more than 50 Harvard business cases on topics related to social innovation, sustainable business and doing business in China. Professor Marquis served 2 terms as an Associate Editor at Administrative Science Quarterly and has also been a Senior Editor at Organization Science and Management and Organization Review. He has also served a term as Representative at Large for the International Association for Chinese Management Research (IACMR) and Organization and Management Theory Division, Academy of Management. Before returning to academia, Marquis was a Vice President and Technology Manager at JP Morgan Chase. He currently is on the sustainability advisory board of the French multinational Sanofi Consumer Healthcare.
Guest Website & Socials:
https://chrismarquis.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-marquis-3884834/
https://x.com/Chris_Marquis_
https://substack.com/@chrismarquis
Resources Mentioned:
BOOK: The Profiteers https://amzn.to/4zbwM66
BOOK: Better Business https://amzn.to/4crRPHF
Key Topics Discussed (with time stamps):
01:32 Who Really Pays For Corporate Externalities?
07:22 The Plastic Dilemma: Rethinking Packaging In Sustainable Business
11:57 Privatizing Profits & Socializing Costs: Unpacking Corporate Externalities
20:37 Lessons From GE: How Shareholder Primacy Distorts Business Ethics
30:17 Big Tech And Algorithms: Profit Growth Vs. Corporate Accountability
36:30 Unpacking The Policy Debate: Plastic Lobbying & Chemical Recycling
44:19 Rethinking Lifecycles: Circularity And Extended Consumer Responsibility
51:58 Regenerative Agriculture: How Purpose-Driven Brands Restore Soil & Systems
01:00:02 Building A Regenerative Economy: Purpose-Driven Governance & Ownership
01:07:15 Conclusion & Takeaways: Empowering Individual Action and Policy Reform
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1 hr 7 min
August 19"I've Never Had New Shoes Before." with Amy Fass, Shoes That Fit
More than 1.3 million children in the United States are unsheltered — and for many of them, a pair of new athletic shoes is not a given but a barrier, to school attendance, to sports participation, to the simple feeling of belonging. Amy Fass, Executive Director of Shoes That Fit, joins Care More Be Better as the domestic companion to the earlier Because International conversation, bringing the lens of childhood shoe insecurity home. She and host Corinna Bellizzi explore what new shoes actually do for a child's self-esteem, the stories of children transformed by something as simple as a name-brand sneaker, the antiquated federal poverty line that leaves millions uncounted, and how to make a concrete difference when the scale feels overwhelming.
Chapter Markers
00:00 — Introduction: The Domestic Companion to The Shoe That Grows

04:00 — How Shoes That Fit Works: Schools, Partners, and the Model

10:00 — The Girl with the Box: 'I've Never Had New Shoes Before'

16:00 — Why Name Brands Matter: Self-Esteem and Belonging

22:00 — The Physical Cost of Ill-Fitting Shoes: Injuries, Attendance, and Barriers to Sport

28:00 — 1.3 Million Unsheltered Children and the Antiquated Poverty Line

34:00 — Corporate Partnerships: Nordstrom, Rack Room, GEICO, and On Running

40:00 — The 2025 Challenge: Tariffs, Shoe Donations, and the Donor Base That Stepped Up

46:00 — Building for Scale: Warehouse Model, Distribution, and the Waitlist

52:00 — Leadership Lessons: Resilience, Burnout, and Investing in People

58:00 — Advice for Aspiring Nonprofit Founders: Listen First

64:00 — Closing: Find One Concrete Thing and Do It
Resources
Amy Fass on LinkedIn

Shoes That Fit — shoesthatfit.org

Shoes That Fit on LinkedIn

@shoesthatfitcharity on Instagram

@shoesthatfitcharity on TikTok

Shoes That Fit on X

Nordstrom — Shoes That Fit partnership

Rack Room Shoes

On Running

Because International — Ep. 289 (previous episode)

Godfrey Coker — previous episode

Lydiah Kemunto Bosire, 8B Education — previous episode

The Grapes of Wrath — John Steinbeck
Donate to Shoes That Fit: shoesthatfit.org
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Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-better
CAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/

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51 min

About Care More Be Better: A Podcast For Sustainable Social Impact and Regeneration

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Care More Be Better, invites you to care more so we can create a better world together. We amplify the voices of environmentalists, activists, health and nutrition gurus, scientists, and leading experts who seek to make the world a better place. Over the course of more than 250 interview episodes, you'll hear from experts like Jean-Michel Cousteau, Paul Hawken, Nina Simons, Dr. Wallace J. Nichols, Captain Liz Clark, Dr. William Li, Miyoko Schinner, John Roulac, Chef Babette Davis, Kelly Reyerson (@glyphosategirl), Donna Grantis and many more. These global change agents and activists create positive impacts and encourage us to think globally while also acting locally. Listen for free on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Audible, on our website, and on most major podcast platforms.