Join us for Episode 2, where Joel speaks with Carlie Hanson on the importance of art as therapy, the idea that every human is born creative and how growing up means figuring yourself out little by little. Hanson recounts her path from working at a McDonald’s drive-thru to moving to LA fresh out of high school, where she slept on her manager’s couch in pursuit of her musical aspirations—all while experiencing life outside of Wisconsin for the first time. Check out Hanson’s upcoming single, “Blueberry Pancakes,” coming out next Friday, February 3.

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