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We discuss the liturgy wars from a different framework. Not the annoying "This is more/less reverent" but rather, what are the context and conditions of our current situation that produces malformed Catholics? Why do Catholic lose their minds over the removal of silly nonessentials that get added into the liturgy where they should not be?
Formation and Culture matters.
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This guy.
We start with a bloody crucifix in my parent's house in 6th grade and then the OSU frat life, to seminary, to engagement with his now-wife, to the military, to law school, to an oil company to 11 kids and counting.
We discuss his St Paul-like conversion within Catholicism, his annoyance with Traditional Latin Mass communities as a grown-ass man, dealing with Pope Francis's comments that cut him deep, his experience of Iraq during wartime, and keeping his faith alive all along the way.
Finally, we talk about things like what it's like having 11 kids today and how he deals with stupid comments.
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Yeah. I miss Luke, too.
We discuss all things liturgy in this second half of our conversation. Vatican II's theology was great, but its pastoral implementation, which is ironic, was miserable. Also we find out Dr. Larry Chapp is an adult Altar Boy... An ALTAR MAN!
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Gomer interviews Dr. Larry Chapp about Hell, Hans Urs von Balthasar, and Tradicals in the Church. He's loud, opinionated, fun, and smart as HELL. We dance around Nouvelle Theologie, Thomas Aquinas, and the state of the Church.
This is part 1 of 2.
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We got Kanye West's older brother, Christopher, and his friend, Mike Mangione to talk theology of the body, gender, genitals, generation, music, waterskiing, and God is Beauty, a retreat Saint Pope John Paul II gave to artists in 1962. Incredible stuff
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Fr. Gregory Pine, O.P. talks about his new book. Well, he wants to but Gomer doesn't let him for the first 60 minutes. Instead, GOMER HAS QUESTIONS! Recorded on Feb 23, 2022, so, you know, better late than never!
Special Guest: Fr. Gregory Pine, OP.
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We talk about Russia as a people, government, and civilization.
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Luke and Gomer discuss Russia as a people, government, and civilization. Then we discuss the last Catholic Stuff you Should Know episode about Fr. G leaving.
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Spoiler review. Don't plan on watching the movie? Then you will still love this episode as we discuss the bigger themes, film, and the hero's journey.
This review contains spoilers. The spoiler horn is sounded at the very beginning. If you have no interest in this movie, I think you will still get something out of this, especially the art of film and how Grunge still owns us in our late 30s and 40s. Now if you will excuse me, I have to plop in all of the ads and record a new one because Luke got sick and his voice is shot.
Matt Reeves Background
Why ‘Something in the Way’ as the main thematic music?
The Central Theme: the response to trauma and the obstacles of existence
“Our situation today shows that beauty demands for itself at least as much courage and decision as do truth and goodness, and she will not allow herself to be separated and banned from her two sisters without taking them along with herself in an act of mysterious vengeance.” - Han Urs von Balthasar
In this regard, the teaching of Sacred Scripture is unequivocal. The Israelites were already encouraged to love one another: "You shall not take vengeance or bear any grudge against the sons of your own people, but you shall love your neighbour as yourself" (Lv 19: 18). At first this commandment seems restricted to the Israelites, but it nonetheless gradually takes on an ever broader sense to include the strangers who sojourn among them, in remembrance that Israel too was a stranger in the land of Egypt (cf. Lv 19: 34; Dt 10: 19). - John Paul II
The world needs God. We need God. But what God do we need? In the first reading, the prophet tells a people suffering oppression that: "He will come with vengeance" (Is 35:4). We can easily suppose how the people imagined that vengeance. But the prophet himself goes on to reveal what it really is: the healing goodness of God. And the definitive explanation of the prophet's word is to be found in the one who died for us on the Cross: in Jesus, the Son of God incarnate, who here looks at us so closely. His "vengeance" is the Cross: a "No" to violence and a "love to the end". This is the God we need. - BXVI to German Bishops
What does this movie say about modern society?
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Matt Fradd is helping Fr. Jason rescue orphans in Urkaine. Find out more here and financially support the mission. https://pintswithaquinas.com/ukraine
Tiredness and Hyperactivity/Hyperpassivity. I-tiredness vs. we-tiredness. I am not tired “of you” but “with you.” God sanctifies space: Garden of Eden. God sanctifies time: Sabbath rest. Sabbath is the rest from work, that then enables us to offer worship.
Lent: glorified self-improvement vs charity towards our neighbor.
Hans Urs von Balthasar (Heart of the World): Obedience to the church means we do it NOW, within the framework of the Church. Sabbath day is a day of not-to, a day free of all in-order-to. But you have to cut off work. Saturday night is crucial for Sunday mornings’ grace. Vespers. Lord’s Day. etc.
“God’s paradise is a utilitarian’s Hell.”
Shared Prayer, Mission, Fellowship, Learning. From this shared life, stuff will just start. It will just start happening. You don’t need anything else other than time and regularity. So can you create a space where these things just happen and when they do happen, can you cultivate these things?
Luke’s one thing he would change about his Young Adult Ministry: the Core Team happened and it was “You need to just be friends and pray together.” Fellowship, friendship, needs to precede Mission. Mission brings us together, as a friendship rooted in a common good. But if the communion doesn’t happen, if friendships are not actually made, then the mission becomes a driver to hyperactivity and loses its connection to actual mission. It’s externalized because it hasn’t made friends yet.
Sometimes it fails because of God. Sometimes it fails because of us.
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