From the ancient temples of Mesopotamia, to the streets of Rome, to the writings of Sigmund Freud and the American leather bars, BDSM has been a present yet ever-changing facet of sexuality and spiritualism. In this episode, Ellie & Michaela talk about the stories and psychology of Bondage, Dominance, Sadism and Masochism from the past to the present. Digressions include: The Ellussy Trials & Being Scouted at Trader Joe’s. CUTE CORRECTION: Ellie refers to the DSM-5 but she means the DSM-4 :)

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