"We made it very public by saying no apologies. So, if something happened, you weren't actually allowed to apologise for it. You just have to say, kick on with it, let the noise go on in the background and we will deal with it."

In this week's episode of the Change Happens #podcast, host Jenelle McMaster is joined by Managing Director at Laing O'Rourke Australia Hub, Cathal O'Rourke, who discusses leadership in times of exceptional change and shares his insights on how the property and construction industry has been hit by the impacts of COVID-19.

Host: Jenelle McMaster  is Managing Partner, Oceania Markets at EY. 

Guest:Cathal O'Rourke, Managing Director at Laing O'Rourke Australia Hub. 

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