"Sometimes you actually have to walk through the door before you realise it was the wrong door and then you need to be prepared and brave enough to step back out, so, make sure you have the option to step back out."

In the latest episode of the Change Happens podcast, Jenelle McMaster is joined by Dr Byron Pirola, Partner at EY Port Jackson Partners ,who discusses the factors that make successful leaders, the challenges of decision-making, and the role of humility in both business and life.

Listen now on: Apple Podcasts or Spotify or where ever you get your favourite podcasts.

Host: Jenelle McMaster  is Managing Partner, Oceania Markets at EY. 

Guest: Dr Byron Pirola   is Partner at EY Port Jackson Partners