"In many ways it’s a bit like the kids in the playground standing up to the bullies, so nine nuclear weapon states have had the other countries turn on them and say, these weapons are not okay."

In this week's episode of the Change Happens podcast, host Jenelle McMaster is joined by Dr Margaret Beavis, Director of Quit Nukes: Nuclear Weapon Free Finance, who shares her insights on exactly how real and relevant the threat of nuclear war is today, and how her work drives collective action towards collective human security.

Host: Jenelle McMaster  is Managing Partner, Oceania Markets at EY. 

Guest: Dr Margaret Beavis, Director of Quit Nukes: Nuclear Weapon Free Finance and the Secretary at the Medical Association for Prevention of War - MAPW

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