"To create change, the only way we can do it is if we can actually come from that human level, human to human, not from a text book, not from just reading PowerPoints and statistics, but we need to bring and draw from our own experiences....”

In this week's episode of the Change Happens podcast, host @Jenelle McMaster is joined by @Mundanara Bayles, Managing Director  and Co-Founder of @Black Card, a 100% Aboriginal owned, who provide cultural awareness training and business consultancy to corporate Australia. Mundanara opens her heart and shares a real and raw look at life growing up Aboriginal, in Australia. 

Host: Jenelle McMaster  is Managing Partner, Oceania Markets at EY. 

Guest: Mundanara Bayles, Managing Director and Co-Founder of Black Card

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