"I love nothing more than chucking a plan in the bin."

In this week's episode of the Change Happens #podcast host Jenelle McMaster is joined by entertainer, broadcaster, journalist, author and stage-performer Wendy Harmer who shares how she creates change, her reflections on leadership and what COVID-19 has meant for the arts and entertainment industry.

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Host: Jenelle McMaster  is Managing Partner, Oceania Markets at EY. 

Guest: Wendy Harmer is an entertainer, broadcaster, journalist, author and stage-performer and currently hosts 702 ABC Breakfast with Wendy Harmer and Robbie Buck.