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Scott met Greg Corricello while at UC San Diego as Inter-Varsity Christian Fellowship (IVCF) leaders. They played on the worship team together and shared a large, supportive community of christians on "secular," science-heavy campus. We saw ourselves as being on the front lines of radical christian living. But Greg went on to gradually deconstruct his faith, learning to accept himself as an asexual man. Being involved with a christian college org like IVCF, in many ways, was more intense than attending a christian school. That's a christian flex right there.
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We wanted to give our reactions to the passing of the architect of today's conservative tyranny, Dr. James Dobson. We share our experiences, give a nod of support to the survivors of the abusive, self-hateful, queerphobic, misogynistic, and all-around bigoted teachings of this man. It's not so much a celebration as it is a solemn acknowledgement that much of our fight began when Focus On the Family began.
Scott also shares some thoughts as a former neighbor of the Dobson family.
We watched the doc. And goddamn. Christians are not ok. We talk about this particular Christian cult, purity culture, and how we got where we are as a nation.
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The Deconstruction world is dominated by progressive Christians, and while that's all well and good, I do not understand it. Maybe it's because I'm Japanese and could never imagine pushing a definition of christianity on the world. To be sure, I got tired of trying to define my faith, my identity, and my community while I was a christian. But the good news, well...my good news is that I want to build a better world with progressive christians, even if I do not understand their need or desire to remain christian. Who cares what I understand or believe. I just want to be part of a movement that makes this world better. I don't even care about proving myself right when it comes to my understanding of christian faith, theology, or the bible. Zero interest in that. I just want to build. And if you tell me your christian faith inspires you to share that vision, I have a million questions, having been a part of that and having read the bible. But I'll hold onto those questions and concerns and build with you. I can't promise I won't raise an eyebrow or wince when you talk about Jesus. If and when we fix this shitty world, we can have it out. But if you are for unequivocal human flourishing, I want to be on your team. Just try and keep the god stuff to a minimum . It's triggering to some of us.
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Dr. Daniel White Hodge returns to Chapel Probation. We talk about our usual gripes with race and how we BIPOC men get overlooked by most of the world. But Dan has been on an incredible healing journey of late, and he shares insights in overcoming trauma caused by violence (because America) and religion. His 8th season of the Profane Faith podcast just started, and Dan is tackling all the hard things and sharing his healing process as well as his usual sharp criticisms of the deconstruction world. The rest of the world is now seeing the America we've known all along, and Dan breaks it down in his own direct way.
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Music by Scott Okamoto, Jenyi, Azeem Khan, and Shin Kawasaki and Wingo Shackleford
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We interviewed Janice Selbie earlier this year, and we signed up to attend the Shameless Sexuality conference that she organizes. And we were pleasantly surprised to get an invite from Janice to speak at the conference, which was held virtually back in May. We brought our humor and insight to the event, shedding light on purity culture through our unique lenses. Hopefully, this conference will continue into the future. There were a lot of great presenters ranging from therapists, writers, and sex workers.
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Scott's book, Asian-American-Apostate- Losing Religion and Finding Myself at an Evangelical University is available now!
Music by Scott Okamoto, Jenyi, Azeem Khan, and Shin Kawasaki and Wingo Shackleford
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When one becomes indoctrinated into conservative christianity at a young age, that person usually does everything possible to adhere to the teachings and values that ultimately cause harm. Celeste Irwin did everything she could as a cis-het man, even joining a church plant for what she later learned was an insidious cult. But once she extricated herself from the cult and conservative christianity, she began the hard work of deconstructing faith and figuring out her identity as a "christian-ish" trans woman.
Subscribe to Celeste's writing here.
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I always knew Joh Chase would be a guest on Chapel Probation. They were one of the most influential people to come out of APU, and they are exquisitely talented. As a guitarist, singer, and songwriter, for my money, Joh is one of the best I've ever seen. And there's a reason we are still friends after meeting in 2005 during their sophomore year. Lots of old Joh Chase music featured in this episode. And lots of memories, both good and bad.
Check out Joh's latest music on Spotify.
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Scott's book, Asian-American-Apostate- Losing Religion and Finding Myself at an Evangelical University is available now!
Music by Scott Okamoto, Jenyi, Azeem Khan, and Shin Kawasaki and Wingo Shackleford
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Content Warning for descriptions of assault and rape.
This week we go to the "Harvard" of Evangelical schools, which is not really a thing. But we go to Wheaton and learn from semi-anonymous guest, Andrea, that the patriarchal systems in place protect men and harm women when it comes to harassment and assault. And at every instance, Christian women are there to defend the men and even find blame in the women who accuse them. Obviously Wheaton is not unique in this patriarchal nightmare, but Andrea went through it all both while there and in life after. Even her Christian therapist found ways to blame her for the horrible abuse she suffered at the hands of her ex-husband.
But Andrea fought back and eventually left, both evangelicalism and her abusive marriage. She got a real education, married and not has a loving family, and now educates people. A true hero today.
Check out her new Substack, Bullies for Jesus.
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Scott's book, Asian-American-Apostate- Losing Religion and Finding Myself at an Evangelical University is available now!
Music by Scott Okamoto, Jenyi, Azeem Khan, and Shin Kawasaki and Wingo Shackleford
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Despite leaving christianity years ago, Katie Malia has never needed to find community centered on deconstruction. She forged her own creative life without ExVangelical twitter, podcasts, or White influencers. Not even Brian Recker! Gasp. Nope. Katie found life and community in the arts, comedy, and music. You've seen her on tv commercials. She's opened for big comedians like Margaret Cho. And her dance videos are incredible.
But until now, Katie has never publicly told her story of growing up and then getting out of her Calvary Chapel upbringing. And she brought her comedian's eye for the absurd along with her artistic depth and artful expression to this episode.
Be sure to catch Katie's standup at the Improv Aug 31!
Katie will be doing an artist residency creating an original dance piece in Oxnard, October 18 and 25.
And find out more at KatieMalia.com
Chapel Probation is part of the Dauntless Media Collective
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Scott's book, Asian-American-Apostate- Losing Religion and Finding Myself at an Evangelical University is available now!
Music by Scott Okamoto, Jenyi, Azeem Khan, and Shin Kawasaki and Wingo Shackleford
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