For all the talk of walking and chewing gum vis-a-vis America's looming threats to national security, have you ever asked whether China is the walking part or the chewing gum? Elbridge Colby has. He joins Rob, James and Charles to explain why the analogies to multitasking divorced from our defense strategy and why even thinking back to the Cold War can only do so much for us.

Our hosts get into lousy speeches and wonder if ChatGPT could make for an improvement; plus they say farewell to the essential Burt Bacharach.

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