Well you’ve probably heard the news, or at least the rumor, innuendo, and vague-gramming: it appears Sara Ramirez and their iconic character of Che Diaz is leaving “And Just Like That.” Thankfully, since the show isn’t coming back until 2025, we all have time to process our grief. Kevin & Jon hop on the mics to talk about what we know so far about these reports, what Sara said, and what we’ll miss most about Che.

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