What's better than Chris Parker, or Tom Sainsbury? Chris Parker AND Tom Sainsbury in the same room together on the same podcast.

Both have come on Kiwi Yarns individually, but they've achieved so much since then and are doing so many wonderful things that I thought we ought to sit them down together for a glorious catch up.

And they're such great mates! We decided their next venture should absolutely be a style-guide book - think New Zealand's Trinny and Susannah.

We talk about Tom being 75% gay and Buddhist and a queer sperm donor, and Chris crying throughout his wedding whilst suffering from gastro.

You'll feel like you're in the same room as them, which I felt very lucky to be!