Making Markets

CL: The Chemist Turned Crypto Trader - [Web3 Breakdowns, EP.77]


Listen Later

This is Eric Golden and my guest today is CL207, also known as CL or Cat, one of the most popular anonymous accounts on crypto Twitter. I have followed him since I got into crypto and, like many, have always wanted to learn more about the person behind the account. CL is academically trained in chemistry and had no finance background before he began trading crypto. He made no money for 2 years but over time has evolved into an extremely thoughtful and intelligent trader.

We start this conversation with one of the weirdest and most fun back stories we've ever had on the show. We then dive deep into CL's trading journey and bring this process to life with examples. We end the conversation on a variety of topics like fashion, anonymity, virtual reality and more. Cat is a highly original and interesting thinker. Talking to him was an absolute blast. 


For the full show notes, transcript, and links to the best content to learn more, check out the episode page here.


-----


This show is sponsored by OKX. Want to stop paying trading fees? You can now trade for free for two months with OKX. Over 20 million traders and institutions choose OKX when they want to trade. And you can join them by signing up at okx.com/landingpage/OKXtraderseries to start your two months of fee-free trading today.


-----


Web3 Breakdowns is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Web3 Breakdowns, visit joincolossus.com/episodes.


Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here.


Follow us on Twitter: @Web3Breakdowns | @ericgoldenx | @patrick_oshag 



Show Notes

(00:02:23) - (First question) - Who Cat was before he started trading crypto and where his avatar came from

(00:06:48) - Where his convictions came from to stick out trading crypto with no experience

(00:10:21) - Finding an edge using intuition and mentally quantitative processes

(00:12:53) - Putting together behavior and patterns to find market opportunities 

(00:14:49) - Where he would start to get a sense of the market if he stepped away for a while

(00:16:25) - His average holding period and whether or not he trades based on news

(00:18:13) - What his trading day looked like today 

(00:19:23) - His trading track record and how what he’s learned as changed his relationship with risk  

(00:22:07) - Never working a job and being risk averse after becoming successful 

(00:24:22) - Digging deep until you find an edge in the market 

(00:26:13) - Sources of information and where the most alpha is amongst them 

(00:28:02) - Whether or not narratives and chats have influenced his trading 

(00:29:17) - How his focus has changed as he’s accumulated wealth 

(00:31:33) - Having a passion for fashion and what captivates him about it

(00:33:41) - Thoughts on anonymity and the pros and cons of it in the digital age

(00:37:10) - Engaging with an avatar that has expressive emotions 

(00:39:21) - Becoming Twitter famous and befriending Edward Snowden

(00:41:59) - Whether or not he misses being a chemist 

(00:45:07) - Giving your kid money to trade online hoping they get rugged 

(00:47:35) - The Vision Pro and being incredibly bullish on virtual reality 

(00:55:24) - The crossover of meeting someone in a virtual world that you’re interested in 

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

Making MarketsBy Colossus | Investing & Business Podcasts

  • 4.8
  • 4.8
  • 4.8
  • 4.8
  • 4.8

4.8

65 ratings


More shows like Making Markets

View all
Masters in Business by Bloomberg

Masters in Business

2,185 Listeners

Top Traders Unplugged by Niels Kaastrup-Larsen

Top Traders Unplugged

586 Listeners

Odd Lots by Bloomberg

Odd Lots

1,768 Listeners

Macro Voices by Hedge Fund Manager Erik Townsend

Macro Voices

3,072 Listeners

The Meb Faber Show - Better Investing by The Idea Farm

The Meb Faber Show - Better Investing

931 Listeners

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy by Colossus | Investing & Business Podcasts

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy

2,288 Listeners

Hidden Forces by Demetri Kofinas

Hidden Forces

1,445 Listeners

Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry by Ted Seides – Allocator and Asset Management Expert

Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry

799 Listeners

Alpha Exchange by Dean Curnutt

Alpha Exchange

80 Listeners

Yet Another Value Podcast by Andrew Walker

Yet Another Value Podcast

104 Listeners

The Business Brew by Bill Brewster

The Business Brew

245 Listeners

Supply Shock by Blockworks

Supply Shock

112 Listeners

Business Breakdowns by Colossus | Investing & Business Podcasts

Business Breakdowns

343 Listeners

Forward Guidance by Blockworks

Forward Guidance

273 Listeners

The Macro Trading Floor by Alfonso Peccatiello & Brent Donnelly

The Macro Trading Floor

211 Listeners

50X by Colossus

50X

80 Listeners

Return on India by Colossus | Investing & Business Podcasts

Return on India

16 Listeners

Making Media by Colossus | Investing & Business Podcasts

Making Media

21 Listeners

Macro Mondays by Andreas Steno Larsen

Macro Mondays

28 Listeners

Glue Guys by Colossus

Glue Guys

85 Listeners