'Slem' was my captain and fly-half when I played at Esher, so it's highly appropriate that he should feature in episode 10 of the podcast.

This interview was recorded in August 2019 and we chatted about the state of the professional game, lessons from captaincy and skills learned in rugby that can be transferred into business.

LINKS David Slemen can be contacted on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidslemen/) and Twitter @DaveSlem (https://twitter.com/DaveSlem) Elite Performance Partners (https://eppartners.co.uk/)

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