Classical Wisdom Speaks

What does the story of Demeter really tell us about loss, power, and the human experience? 

In this episode, renowned translator and classicist Diane Rayor unpacks the Homeric Hymn to Demeter: one of the most powerful and enduring myths from ancient Greece. 

Far more than just a story about gods, this hymn explores grief, motherhood, identity, and the fragile balance between life and death. Diane Rayor brings her deep expertise and fresh translation work to the conversation, revealing layers of meaning that are often missed in traditional readings. 

Together, we explore how this ancient text speaks to universal human emotions, and why it still resonates thousands of years later. 

WHAT YOU’LL LEARN 

The core story of the Homeric Hymn to Demeter and its significance 

How Demeter’s grief shapes the natural world and human experience 

The role of Persephone and what her story represents 

Why this hymn was central to ancient Greek religion and ritual 

How translation choices affect our understanding of ancient texts 

What this myth can (and can’t) tell us about life today 

TIMESTAMPS 

00:00 Introduction & Diane Rayor 

01:30 What is the Homeric Hymn to Demeter? 

04:10 The story of Demeter and Persephone 

08:45 Themes of grief, loss, and motherhood 

12:20 The Eleusinian Mysteries and religious context 

16:00 Translation choices and interpretation 

20:10 Why this myth still matters today 

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👉 Diane's Translations of the Homeric Hymns: https://www.amazon.com/Homeric-Hymns-Translation-Introduction-Literature/dp/0520282116 

👉 Audio Recordings of Sappho: A New Translation of the Complete Works: cambridge.org/sappho 

👉 No Reply Press: https://www.noreplypress.com/ 

Featuring guest Diane Rayor: 

Diane J. Rayor, Professor Emerita of Classics, Grand Valley State University, Michigan and acclaimed translator known for her accessible and poetic translations of ancient Greek works, including Homer and Sappho. 

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What is the point of studying Classics today? 

Mary Beard explains why the ancient world still shocks, challenges, and reshapes how we think. Discover how Greek and Roman history can change your perspective, without offering easy answers. 

In this conversation, renowned classicist Mary Beard explores how ancient Greece and Rome remain deeply relevant today, not as a guidebook for life, but as a way to see modern problems differently. You’ll learn how to approach classical history without intimidation, why “the shock of the old” still matters, and how anyone can join the conversation.

If you’ve ever wondered how ancient history connects to today’s world, this episode will change how you think about the past and the present. 

KEY IDEAS: 

• Why studying Classics isn’t about finding “answers” 

• The idea of “The Shock of the Old” and why it still matters 

• How ancient texts like Medea continue to unsettle us 

• The danger of over-revering Greek and Roman history 

• How Classics helps challenge modern “presentism”

• Can the ancient world teach us anything useful today? 

• How to get into Classics without knowing Latin or Greek 

• Why Classics has no single political agenda 

• How the past has been used by both left and right movements 

• Finding wonder (“thauma”) in ancient history

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Introduction to Mary Beard & Talking Classics 

00:23 Why the Classics still matter 

01:24 Why we should revere the ancient world less 

02:39 The “shock” of ancient culture (Medea example) 

04:48 Wonder and awe in the ancient world 

05:44 The Egyptian bread story (first encounter with history) 

07:29 Making Classics accessible to everyone 

08:43 Do the Greeks and Romans offer life lessons? 

10:06 Using Classics to rethink modern problems 

11:37 Presentism vs learning from the past 

13:22 How to start engaging with Classics 

15:04 Podcasts, media, and entry points into history 

16:20 Seeing the classical world all around us 

19:08 Technology (VR) and experiencing the past 

21:05 Is Classics political? 

22:25 How different ideologies use ancient history 

24:48 Classics and democracy, revolution, and reform 

25:38 Who “owns” the past? 

26:18 Final thoughts 

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👉 Mary Beard's "Talking Classics: The Shock of the Old:: https://profilebooks.com/work/talking-classics/

What do you think: can the ancient world still teach us something today? Let me know in the comments. 

GUEST Mary Beard – One of the world’s most influential classicists, Professor Emerita at Cambridge, and bestselling author of SPQR and Twelve Caesars. Known for making ancient history accessible, relevant, and thought-provoking. 

#Classics #AncientHistory #MaryBeard #GreekHistory #RomanHistory 

An age of apocalyptic thinking, a clash of empires, and a legacy that still shapes the world today... 

Today Anya is joined by Professor Barry Strauss to discuss the Jewish Revolts against the Roman Empire. Discover what fueled these uprisings, and how their dramatic outcome has shaped centuries. 

Barry Strauss is the Corliss Page Dean Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution of Stanford University as well as the Bryce and Edith M. Bowmar Professor in Humanistic Studies Emeritus at Cornell University, where he is the former Chair of the Department of History as well as Professor of History and Classics. 

He is the author of many bestselling books, including most recently Jews Vs Rome, which you can buy HERE: https://www.amazon.com/Jews-vs-Rome-Centuries-Rebellion/dp/1668009595 

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Barbarian, witch, murderer… and mother.

Today Anya is joined by author and broadcaster Natalie Haynes to discuss one of Greek mythology’s most famous and dramatic characters, Medea. 

Discover the complex legends and legacy of Medea, from her daring love story with Jason to its dark aftermath… and how the Greek tragedian Euripides transformed her how her story is told, forever.

Natalie Haynes is the author of several acclaimed books about women in Greek mythology, including Divine Might, Stone Blind, and most recently No Friend to This House, her own much-anticipated retelling of the myth of Medea. 

You can buy a copy HERE: https://www.amazon.com/No-Friend-This-House-Novel/dp/0063258447 

Natalie Haynes is an author and comedian as well as a broadcaster for the BBC, and she has written for The Times, The Independent, The Guardian, and The Observer. Hosted by Anya Leonard of Classical Wisdom. 

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What were the secrets of Roman warfare?

What is the best way to defeat an enemy… and what does all this have to do with aqueducts?

Today Anya is joined by George Thomas to discuss the life of Frontinus, an ancient Roman general and governor of Roman Britain. In particular, they’re looking at Stratagems, his manual for war, which looked to ancient history to distil key lessons in military strategy and leadership. 

George Thomas, also known by his pen name, Quintus Curtius, is an acclaimed translator of ancient texts, including those by Cicero, Sallust, and Cornelius Nepos.

He is an MIT graduate, a former officer in the US Marine Corps, a founding partner of the law firm, Phillips and Thomas.

His most recent work is a translation Frontius' Stratagems, of which we speak about today.

You can buy it HERE: https://www.amazon.com/Stratagems-Translation-Sextus-Julius-Frontinus/dp/B0FPBTNCY5

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Long before crowds stormed Bastille or Winter Palace, Greek thinkers treated revolution as the ultimate civic nightmare. So how did an existential danger morph into a promise of liberation—and what happens when that promise curdles into violence? 

In this dynamic online forum, Dan Edelstein, Professor of French at Stanford University, is joined by classical-political heavyweights Josiah Ober, Professor of Political Science and Classics at Stanford University, and Melissa Lane, Professorship of Politics at Princeton University, to excavate the deep past of an idea that still jolts headlines and rattles parliaments. 

Hosted by Anya Leonard. 

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Existing at the very edge of the Classical world, in both time and geography, Saint Augustine has proven to be immensely influential on the modern world… but not always in a good way.

Today Anya is joined by Tony Alimi to discuss the life and philosophy of Saint Augustine, how he was influenced by Roman philosophers, and the ‘entanglements’ that complicate his legacy. In particular, how his theology was used to justify slavery. 

Discover how philosophy has been abused by history, and why Augustine still isn't through with us today... 

Tony Alimi is assistant professor in the Sage School of Philosophy at Cornell University and author of Slaves of God: Augustine and Other Romans on Religion and Politics. You can buy it HERE: https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691244235/slaves-of-god?srsltid=AfmBOoqe902LK8mqeBd3lUa4L8I9roc6Ouy7KmiNS3xrG-xnotPz5BRw 

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What can Plato tell us about life TODAY?

Quite a lot, it turns out…

Today Anya is joined by Professor Angie Hobbs to discuss the essential and enduringly relevant nature of Plato’s ideas. Discover how they are infused in our modern world, in everything from politics to our personal lives.

Angie Hobbs is Professor Emerita of the Public Understanding of Philosophy at the University of Sheffield and author of Plato and the Hero, Plato’s Republic: A Ladybird Expert Book, and most recently, Why Plato Matters Now.

You can buy a copy HERE: https://www.amazon.com/Why-Plato-Matters-Now-Interfaces/dp/1399403370

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Was King Arthur real?

What can his story tells us about British history and identity? And what exactly happened to Britain after the Romans left? 

Today Anya is joined by Murray Dahm, an independent academic researcher and freelance historian based in Sydney, Australia. 

Discover how the era of post-Roman Britain is both a beginning and an ending, the thin line between history and myth, and how the dark age was MUCH shorter than commonly thought. 

Murray Dahm is the author of several books, including Finis Britanniae: A Military History of Late Roman Britain and the Saxon Conquest. You can buy it HERE: https://www.amazon.com/Finis-Britanniae-Military-History-Conquest/dp/1398118273 

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How is Odysseus like the heroes of Indian literature?

And how did two cultures, separated by vast time and distances, come to have such remarkably similar stories?

Today Anya is joined by Roberto Morales to discuss the parallels between ancient Greek, Roman, and Indian literature. They discuss what caused these parallels, and what we can learn from them today...

Roberto Morales is Associate Professor of Sanskrit and Head of the Department of Classical Philology at the University of Costa Rica, and author of The Embassy, the Ambush, and the Ogre, which they discuss. You can buy it here: https://www.amazon.com/Embassy-Ambush-Ogre-Greco-Roman-Influence/dp/1805113615

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